Ryan Adams

Street justice, Ryley Walker style

I was the one who took a big nasty dump in your trailer at Winnipeg folk festival and stunk the whole thing up. When a tour manager or handler asked if it was me I denied it but it was me https://t.co/b7BbHqZhCs

— Ryley walker (@ryleywalker) July 20, 2019

Apparently the place he's chosen to publish some kind of "apology/confession" one year on is... The Daily Mail.

I've not read it, so the quotes should indicate my ignorance of and skepticism about whatever he's written. What a choice of outlet for his exclusive soul-baring though.

There used to be a big Ryan Adams vs Rhett Miller fued. One turned out to be a narcissistic creep, while the other is a class act, always doing benefits and other philanthropic work. But a Ryan vs Rhett music poll would be interesting

Mandy Moore having none of it:

Mandy Moore talks about her ex-husband Ryan Adams’ public apology over the weekend regarding allegations of abuse. pic.twitter.com/MQ8j2nvY2L

— TODAY (@TODAYshow) July 6, 2020

But a Ryan vs Rhett music poll would be interesting

The first 4-5 Old 97's records have aged way better than Whiskeytown/Heartbreaker, but my tolerance for sadsack white alcoholic shit is at an all time low (Miller was usually funny about it).

I took my friends to see an Old 97s show a couple of years back, at their request, and while I recall being impressed by them way back when this performance just stunk of schtick and we all left early, bummed. Now, Ryan Adams I've never seen be good live, but there are maybe two or three albums of his I like out of, what 30?

you can def compile maybe 4 extremely strong albums from his full discography, I think. Every album has a few great songs.

a Ryan vs. Rhett poll would be worthless bc obviously everyone would vote for the latter because he's not a giant piece of shit, even though personally in the past I was a way bigger fan of the former.

rhett before he became an all-out pretty boy was classic

I will rep for The Instigator over anything of Adams’.

Pathetic little pissbaby

https://variety.com/2021/music/news/ryan-adams-implores-labels-second-chance-social-posts-1235028344/

Paul Rudd’s character in This Is 40 was ready to sign him…

...but then Ryan hit on his daughters.

A perfect indictment of that whole mindset without realizing it! Well done, Apatow!

Also Exile on Meryl Streep, just fuck off, Adams.

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literally no one is stopping you from making music anymore, but a lot of people might not want to hear it. you had your business chance and fucked it. go get a regular job like the rest of us and get on with your life.

He'd make a killing on Cameo.

Don't give him ideas on Cameo or the other thing.

Imagine how bad his credit rating must be.

His whining sounds like Morrissey's. "No major label will give me a huge advance and giant promotional push, wah."

Frames that whole debate about Morrissey at the start if his first solo album a little differently, that's for sure.

We live in a time when it is easier than ever for artists to get their music directly to fans without needing the mechanism of a label to mass produce/distribute/promote so why would someone who probably still has a sizable fanbase who don't care that he is a sexual predator (or at least don't find that to be a barrier) whine about getting dropped by a label? Probably becuz conning A&R dudes & labels into thinking he's the next...something & lavishing him with money and attention is the core of his grift

gosh, imagine having a promising music career suddenly cut short... i wonder if he knows any women who've had that same experience and can give him advice on how to handle it...

He should buy an R/V and go full Nomadland.

sorry about his cat

takes about 10 minutes to set up a Bandcamp

this is weird to me. he sounds too beholden to the old way or something. because Ryan Adams definitely has enough fans - even still - that he can continue to put out his own music and tour and make money.

what he should do is call Jeff Tweedy and just try to copy his playbook. although Jeff might not take his call at this point.

not that i give a shit if Ryan Adams can make music, tour or make money, to be clear.

On his own PAX AM independent label, he has released two albums in the last eight months — “Wednesdays” in December, and “Big Colors” in June — both of which had been scheduled to come out on Blue Note/Capitol before he got dropped. These two recent releases charted in Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands but failed to chart in America or the U.K.

i think x has enough fans is not necessarily true without the major label promotion. fred durst had one of the limp bizkit albums released with no promotional push from the label as an intentional act and it sold poorly.

but ... fuck this guy anyway.

When you have a free ride in the industry for as long as he did, there's probably alot of that business stuff that's out of his grasp, and when it sounds like no one wants to work with him in any capacity...

Fair warning, I refuse to click on the link to read his actual whining, but I'm surprised it's more about labels. I figured he would be more whining about not getting booked to play where he's used to playing. Seems like the kind of guy with the (still, amazingly) sizable enough audience that he'd do alright (though obviously nowhere near the days when he was getting placed in every teen drama) releasing straight through bandcamp.

I believe in redemption and forgiveness for those honestly seeking it, and I believe people can change their behaviors, particularly when bad behavior is reinforced by substance abuse, which I'm sure much of his was. I've been in recovery and I know a lot of people who are sober who remain fans of his. That said acceptance is not to be sought, it should happen organically; apologies need to be honest, and not a manipulation; and very little Adams has done leads me to believe he has performed an adequate amount of self-reflection to warrant a comeback of the type he is hoping.

He should get a dayjob and upload his little self-recorded songs to Bandcamp and YouTube on the weekends for his friends and family to pretend to listen to, like 800,000 other guitar-playing white guys his age.

He basically wants it back the way it was. A bit of selling a decent amount, a lot of media coverage, a large chunk of worship and respect. Basically, like how Bob Dylan had it, and has it now.

He'd settle for a low level of fame, respect, forward anticipation of his new/unreleased projects, etc.

What he'll end up with is a cottage industry, a small scope website, and a reasonably easy to ignore media visibility. Which is what Jonathan King was doing last time I looked (about 10 years ago)

Latest album released on his own label has about 6 million Spotify streams. At ~3000 USD per million streams that gives 18000 USD. Not a lot of instant money from streaming to cover expenses for musicians, studio time, mastering etc. But I would suppose he has some income from his older recordings, of which some original compositions have +30m streams on Spotify. And ofc there are many other streaming services, Youtube, Apple Music etc.

Major label could probably help both with playlisting to increase play count, but also licensing for ads/movies/games which I imagine is much more valuable. No idea how physical sales factor in. But I'd assume Ryan could easily make about 3000 dollars in personal profit for playing a concert, so that's probably better for fast cash. He doesn't need a label to book shows afaik.

I bet he made a ton off of licensing songs to sentimental TV/film, Chipotle and Starbucks, Old Navy and so on. I remember Starbucks putting the Cold Roses right next to every cash register when it came out. Big lifestyle change when all of that dries up, other than past residuals. Also must be hard to know he will likely never set foot onstage again at the Ryman and so on.

whole lotta folks lining up to be ryan adams' business manager itt

haha, he's begging for it!

he doesn't need a better business manager, he needs a better sponsor

And then he can go on Opportunity Knocks!

He's got options.

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The whiner whines

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ryan-adams-wants-forgiveness-after-mandy-moore-and-phoebe-bridgers-emotional-abuse-accusations/

The 46-year-old has spent his forced isolation binging Bravo reality television, ordering copious amounts of Thai food, and plucking away at his guitar and writing somber lyrics, such as “I close my eyes and beg forgiveness before I sleep.”

I look forward to never hearing these:

But it’s hard to say exactly what Adams has learned, as he doesn’t get into specifics of what these past two years have taught him about his alleged controlling and emotionally abusive behavior. He hints that he’s saving these revelations for his music, with remorseful lyrics and song titles that question why he’s even doing all of this.

“​​I use what I’ve got and I work with it, and I try to make something beautiful out of it,” he said. “And then it changes me.”

“I’ve learned that Thai food is fantastic - but expensive if you eat it all the time”

Adams then asked the reporter if he knew of any Thai restaurants in the area that would allow him to perform an acoustic set of all new material

“Maybe we could interest Bravo in a reality show about this, like, a comeback tour of Thai joints”

He admitted that he was mostly taken aback by Moore’s participation in the story, where she alleged that over the course of their nearly six-year marriage, Adams was psychologically and emotionally abusive and had stalled her music career. “I was like, what is the point of this now? Because this is going to hurt my family and it’s going to hurt our friends,” Adams said. “And we talked about this stuff years ago.”

i mean we all know he learned nothing but he really learned nothing

His hero is Morrissey, so...