Please explain Muse to me

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They're popular.

They are unlistenable suck and ridiculous wiffle. Why god why?

Please add the coherence i am incapable of below with your opinion, ta.

ruffle bar (grumpy_bastard), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

They're like the Catherine Wheel of the post-Radiohead wave, except the Catherine Wheel were good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I quite like Muse for their total over-the-top barouqueness. Being over eighteen and not Russian, I realise I am in a minority.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

They are, apparently, about go to top 10 with the fourth single off a year-old album in a quiet singles week. So they are undoubtedly popular.

I like them, anyway, even if I am incapable of explaining why this is. Maybe with their pretentious, po-faced stupidity they've gone so far off the scale of things that I should hate that they've emerged at the other side?

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

They seem to be an inbetween band, sitting somewhere between indie and metal. They seem to have all of the drawbacks and none of the benefits of either genre, I think they are popular because they don't fit with any particular tribe, and so have created their own. Their fan base will never either shrink or expand, they offer community and solidarity to those who need a central uncompicated ancor for their musical life, and for their social interactions. Wooden, we are no longer mates!

lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

The single that's coming out has some software on it where you can create your own mix of the track. I think they're the first band to do it, and it sounds like a pretty neat concept.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

software.. it is to be commended trying something new

i could remove the hideous guitar vnwyngiysyie malmsteem or whatever the f**** it is pomposity, and the vocals?

maybe there would be a cool rhythm track in there.

I'll look out for it in charity shops ten years from now ...

ruffle bar (grumpy_bastard), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish I hadn't started this thread...

[exits mumbling, sorry]

ruffle bar (grumpy_bastard), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I think they're the first band to do it, and it sounds like a pretty neat concept.

what? mogwai did that last year on happy songs.

as for muse: i'm gonna out myself and say i love 'em. sure, they're ridiculous, pompous, OTT indie show-offs, but fuck that: they R O C K, and that's what counts.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Mogwai did the U-Myx thing already? Well then, I've been had! Anyhow, here's a wee snippet about it.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm with Wooden.

also, ffs not this again...

teh pow! (blueski), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

You see, Lukey? YOU SEE? Feel free to come crawling back...

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

They sound like a band that really like The Bends to me. I saw them live at Curiosa, though, and they all really excel at their instruments, for what that's worth. Bellamy (lead guy) really blew me away on piano.

Richard K (Richard K), Thursday, 23 September 2004 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I love Muse...best band on the planet with Radiohead .....the U-Myx concept is great, more artists should be using this technology so that people can recreate a particular bassline or guitair riff for influence in their own music

Johnny L, Monday, 10 January 2005 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the verse riff of their american hit

miccio (miccio), Monday, 10 January 2005 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

U-Myx concept

The what now?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I got free tickets to a show and it was pretty enjoyable. Main dude is quite a showman--OH! I was totally thinking of Pashmin4 the whole show because of that crazy keyboard pyramid he plays that lights up and such, he must've got it on discount from gary numan.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just listening to them last night and I fuckin love em

I saw them at T in the Park last year and they blew everyone's minds.. enormous stacks of amplifiers, sound tweaked just so. They were running out between everyone else's sets to add more speakers and play with things, for like hours, so when it finally came time for them to play it was all ready, and they switched on and it was like the entire sound system of the festival had been replaced with something twice as loud. "New Born" is phenomenal, I don't really know any of the names of their songs though, they're one of those bands like Sade or Stereolab where it doesn't really matter

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

You rockist! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

After I got past the fact that the singer is doing a bald-faced Thom Yorke impersonation, I like every song I've heard by them.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

A Muse/Interpol tour would make perfect sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 January 2005 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I like select tracks by them. For what it's worth, he's got a finer voice than Yorke could ever muster (if you're keen on overwrought bombast, that is). "Hyper Music" and "Stockhome Syndrome" are both amazing.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 10 January 2005 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Lyd14 and I stopped these girls so we could photograph their lineup cards (so we could know who was playing when).. they were like "who are you here to see?" And we sort of floundered around, er, Pink and the Pixies, really. We're like "who are YOU two here to see?" And they both answer in unison: "Muse"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/muse_girls.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

this is during the last song of their set, somebody else took this though, Lyd14 I guess, because I was down front trying not to get completely smushed by the heaving throngs of.. well the likes of those two above

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/muse.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Amazing live band. Great noise from a 3 piece, considering only a few backing samples are used. Stuff like "Citizen Erased", "Micro Cuts" and "Butterflies & Hurricanes" knock the recorded versions (which are a bit anaemic, I think) into a cocked hat. First album largely forgettable, mind.

si carter, Monday, 10 January 2005 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I heard a song by them on the radio last summer and waited for the DJ to tell who it was by. Upon hearing that it was Muse, I didn't know how to handle it because I'd written them off as crap years ago. Don't you hate it when that happens?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 05:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i have a soft spot for "hysteria"

noizem duke (noize duke), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 06:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Balls to the wall ridiculousness. Oh, sure, I'd like my arena rock w/ a helping of Beethoven & a big fat ladleful of fat-free obliviousness, why the hell not? Oh, sure, turn everything up to 11. You wanna cry for humanity's pain while banging your head? By all means. "It's time for something biblical"? All righty then - lemme just frogproof my lean-to.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 06:09 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Muse now sounds a bit like Prince, at least vocal wise. This sounds like suicide for their fan base.

hxxp://download.yousendit.com/2BD49F9D2BE04446

BeeOK (boo radley), Monday, 8 May 2006 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

*small voice* I like Muse, I think. Actually I hadn't heard them for a long time and a good mate of mine at my old job went on and on and ON about them and how I'd love them blah blah so it put me off listening to the mp3 he sent me didnt it?

Then I heard "Stockholm Syndrome" on Rage one night and went "woah fuck thats good". So, yeah. I like the over the top baroque metal/indierock hybridangst.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 May 2006 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't like Muse but I like the girls upthread.

daavid (daavid), Monday, 8 May 2006 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't have anything against them, although I would have preferred if their arrangements were a bit leass heavy metal.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I have never enjoyed a Muse song before, but "Supermassive Black Hole" is catchy as hell, and I have no idea why. Maybe because it reminds me of a poppy Brainiac (although I can't help thinking it would be ten times better if all of its Brainiac-y qualities were brought to the forefront).

sixteen sergeants, Monday, 8 May 2006 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I have now heard two songs by this band that I like. And the video for Knights of Cydonia is amazing.

I feel weird even asking (though I'm plenty shameless): which album should I start with?

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

Origin Of Symmetry if you want 'em at their most rocking-out, Absolution if you want 'em at their most successfully ambitious.

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

Don't be ashamed. I recently had a discussion with a friend where the topic was "good bands whom you associate with the worst music tastes" and Muse came out pretty much on top. As long as you don't prance around in their shirts or blather about how they're the greatest band of the decade or whatever, there's plenty to enjoy.

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

Other 2 albums are REALLY bad, tho

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks. What's so bad about Black Holes.... The reviews make it sound like it's their best. Is it more electronic or something?

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

It's got a couple of decent songs but it's by far their most facile, limp record. Grandstanding suits them, and it's no coincidence that the best songs on BHAR are the two where they REALLY go for it (Take A Bow and Knights Of Cydonia). I dunno, tho, maybe you'll like it more! Try it.

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'd rather hear them go for it. They sound to me like a cross between Rush and Supergrass. At least the songs I've heard so far.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

Which songs have you heard?

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

New Born (which I thought was the superior song) and the aforementioned Knights of Cydonia (which has good parts but is made much better by the visuals).

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

New Born IS the superior song. It's the lead-off track on OOS, which is a fun, kick-ass album. If you liked it, you'll like the record.

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

Cool. I'll report back after I visit my buddy at Everyday Music.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

Don't be ashamed.

no, do be ashamed.

how are these mooks better/more 'groundbreaking' (whatever that means) than lcd soundsystem? im not even a big lcd guy, but srsly fuck a muse.

Brohan Hari, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

Fucks sake NRQ, they're totally NOT groundbreaking, stop trying to troll me

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly, I listen to plenty of groundbreaking music. I'm just curious about Muse because I heard a song that sounded good to me.

Fuck an LCD Soundsystem.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

basically, that. plz don't bring up last night's embarrassing rants in today's shameless funseeking!

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:34 (twelve years ago) link

muse and queen occupy the same sphere for me: bombast that I can see why it's fun, but does nothing for me. muse are slightly less corny than queen tho, admittedly.

rjberry, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

Hellishly mastered.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

You guys are all so wrong. Muse is one of the best bands of the past 10 years.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

Ned and I do not agree on everything. Sometimes, a British band comes along and my own critical faculties evaporate where his remain steadfast. It is my blessing, and my curse.

the hubby space veggiescope (country matters), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

I like these guys a lot. Still haven't heard the first album, but like the two I have heard and the live one a bunch. Looking forward to the new album.

unperson, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

xpost - Sorry Country Matters. I still haven't done my homework!

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 10:12 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Ok I think they're abhorrent and listening to them gives me headache but I was watching their Wembley Stadium performance from a cpuple of years ago on tv and I'll admit they seem pretty good live, manage to sound very close and maybe better than they do on record.

Moka, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:56 (ten years ago) link

Today is revive mediocre bands day to me.

Moka, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 07:59 (ten years ago) link

Widdly guitar arpeggios. Trying to pass off lyrics like "snowflakes melt into the ocean at midnight" as profound. Gets old fast.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 09:22 (ten years ago) link

I repped for them upthread but in hindsight "Stockholm Syndrome" turned out to be the only one I liked, the rest was piff.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 23:43 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqFZGnfMLMw&feature=player_embedded

lol.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:06 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Fuck you. (The band, not the article, which is accurate.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:39 (eight years ago) link

A truer brand of torrid velveeta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3oFKAsobc

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:46 (eight years ago) link

Jeez, I never realized until right now how badly Muse has been copying The The all these years.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:50 (eight years ago) link

xxp that's so bad, they could have got Vikings era Prince to do it and he'd have come up with something better.
It starts off with some anonymous national anthem, then throws in the 'ha ha ha ha' bit from 'O Superman', then some sub-Queen lyrics and a guitar solo that sounds like Brian May in a washing machine. They must surely have written this as a piss take, right? Regardless of whether they did or not, this song is probably going to be played at the opening ceremony. To a TV audience of hundreds of millions. I guess maybe the organisers wanted something more stupid than Boris Johnson at the ceremony.
We could probably get Muse to represent the UK in next year's Eurovision. They'll either win outright or lose and we'll be rid of them.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 07:32 (eight years ago) link

If the Olympics were held in Ireland and they got Jedward to do the official song, it'd be better than this.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 07:40 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw

Chris S, Thursday, 28 June 2012 07:57 (eight years ago) link

So Muse were the only band dumb enough or neo-Liberal enough to actually buy the whole "play for free, no need to pay you, think of the exposure" line?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:35 (eight years ago) link

ghastly

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2012 09:58 (eight years ago) link

I guess that The Darkness turned down the offer because they didn't want to make themselves look stupid.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:03 (eight years ago) link

The Darkness could have done with that £250 though.

owenf, Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:33 (eight years ago) link

I didn't know spandex trousers were that expensive.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:35 (eight years ago) link

Hair club for men costs a bomb.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:37 (eight years ago) link

Spandex doesn't grow on trees.... or does it?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:37 (eight years ago) link

This song is a bit Lloyd Webberish, I could imagine it as the music for Seb Coe: The Opera.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:51 (eight years ago) link

This is hilarious what's wrong with you all.

Jesu swept (ledge), Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:08 (eight years ago) link

Hilariously bad is still bad. OTOH I've realised that I've been subconsciously waiting over 20 years for a self important bombastic mess of a song that's even worse than Queen's 'Innuendo'.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:10 (eight years ago) link

Twitter reminds us: it could be worse. It could have been Coldplay.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:14 (eight years ago) link

ledge otm

goonrise zingdom (some dude), Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:15 (eight years ago) link

I've listened to this abomination about half a dozen times now, because I can't believe it's so bad.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:21 (eight years ago) link

OK, I've finally got this to work on my mobile.

This is from their forthcoming light opera: Ayn Rand, The Musical, right?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:28 (eight years ago) link

The guitar solo... will it never end?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:31 (eight years ago) link

I keep waiting for The Drop, and then the "dubstep" bit to kick in. That's the only way they possibly could have this song even more of a too muchness.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:32 (eight years ago) link

widdly widdly divebomb
widdly widdly divebomb
high pitched widdly widdly
long sustained high note

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:34 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Muse asked to run Teignbridge District Council

I guess that Matt Bellamy's letter finally got through to the Jim'll Fix It production team.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61735000/jpg/_61735710__60365102_60365101-1.jpg

You know they're just thinking 'ho ho ho, it looks like a cock!'.

Jeremy Clarkson Sex Face (snoball), Sunday, 22 July 2012 18:16 (eight years ago) link

Are all their most recent music videos still set in outer space like the early ones tended to

Supper's Burnt (PaulTMA), Sunday, 22 July 2012 18:42 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

Literally the worst band in the world.

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 12:21 (one week ago) link

Probably but like Roy Chubby Brown you have to go out of your way to hear their music now.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 20 February 2021 13:41 (one week ago) link

There was like two hours of it on Sky Arts last night. Hence the revive.

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:19 (one week ago) link

Another reason to not subscribe to Sky.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:33 (one week ago) link

It's been on Freeview for a while - at least where I am. You're not missing much though.

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:35 (one week ago) link

Muse are dogshit obv but I really fancy a ruffle bar now

The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:46 (one week ago) link

Sky Arts more like Sky Middle Aged Dad Music

The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:47 (one week ago) link

Sky Farts

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:11 (one week ago) link

It seems to be mostly cheaply made 30 minute "Then she made this movie" documentaries on various film stars, with Derek Malcolm - who I assumed was dead after watching some of these, he looks so frail - and various other talking heads.

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:18 (one week ago) link

Wait is Derek Malcom not dead?

Tbf to Sky Middle Aged Dad Music there is about 5% actually decent content

Maybe not 5

The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:19 (one week ago) link

Apparently still alive! 88!

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:20 (one week ago) link

I thought Matt Bellamy looked like a wanker before but ffs:
https://www.mansonguitarworks.com/media/mageplaza/blog/post/8/6/86844_0_wide_ver1551312038.jpg
His sartorial style is a cross between Bono, Kanye West, and the singer from Maroon 5.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:34 (one week ago) link

Bit of Mark King in there imo except Mark King made good records

The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:38 (one week ago) link

Muse's bass player looks like this:
https://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/wp-content/uploads/Muse-Chris-Wolstenholme-SNL-06-10-12.jpg

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:42 (one week ago) link

xp throw in some Timmy Mallett too.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:43 (one week ago) link


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