Assassins / Butterfly Child - rave, plus C/D

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Did a search and didn't find a thread devoted exclusively to BC, so here 'tis.

Thought that buying the new Assassins EP via their website would be rewarding, given the love for Joe Cassidy's Butterfly Child, but this is lighting all my bells in wholly unexpected ways. While waiting for new BC, discovered Stars, and particularly loved the sound of the female vocals playing against Torquil's. This Assassins EP takes all the "damn, when is Cassidy going to release something new?" hope, adds the Stars love, and exceeds my expectations. "Yesterday's Feeling" in particular, can't recommend enough. Without sounding street team (though sign me up NOW!), this is incredibly appealing.

As for the C/D, anyone else have an opinion? BC are one of the bands I feel a little "zing!" for, when browsing used record bins. I don't want to see multiple _Soft Explosives_ copies. I'd rather see them listed in a name-dropping cred sense.

Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

As for the C/D, anyone else have an opinion?

Oh yes, my friend. Oh yes. I've been waiting for something from Mr. Cassidy for a while -- so this Assassins is some new project? And what's the website?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that song "Mad Bird" - does anyone know if it's in any way inspired by Liz Fraser?

"Beautiful Girls" is prob one of the most AR Kane -like vocals I've heard
I need to d/l Eucalyptus since Ned esteems it so high

I finally found Papa Sprain - May EP, on CD not vinyl :( and unfortunately it has a slight skip on the delectable "Bathtime"

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 18 September 2004 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Assassins website. It's a new band project, Joe Cassidy and a handful of others I'm not familiar with. At one time I had an article bookmark that listed the other members' previous bands, but have lost it. Definitely an EP that would inspire folk to work backwards to previous outfits.

I have that May EP, Paul, if you want a burn. Gorgeous stuff. And all the BC EPs are fantastic. I'm partial to the Ghetto Speak and Flaming Burlesque EPs.

Don't know about the Liz Fraser connection, but the idea that she inspired that song makes me smile.

Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

There are a slew of BC and PS things I'd love a burn of, as I pretty much just have the three albums and Eucalyptus, so might I ask to be included in whatever comes about...?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a shame that he was on an utterly incompetant record label in the states. As I've mentioned before, their label mates Sardina, who ruled, were totally ignored as well.

frankE (frankE), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Do y'all mean HitIt? I've talked with the guy there before, he seemed all right to me. I was bemused by his war with Chris Connelly, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah. nice enough. really talks a great game. somehow, though...not much to show for it.

frankE (frankE), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

fifteen years pass...

News on the BC / Papa Sprain collaboration from BC post on FB: the butterfly child/ papa sprain collaboration known as My Bus release the album ‘our life in the desert’ january 31st 2020 on vinyl, cd and all the usual online services. keep an eye out for random street art in london. . My Bus FB page is

Wish Assassins would issue a follow-up disc.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 19:27 (two years ago) link

what? new Papa Sprain? did not expect that!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 20:13 (two years ago) link

Now there's a name I never thought I'd see again!

henry s, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:12 (two years ago) link

Having been enjoying Onomatopoeia recently though I think the Ghetto Speak EP is my favourite by them. Looking forward to hearing My Bus properly.

djh, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:19 (two years ago) link

I've been listening to the Futures album lot lately, the one that came out of the blue a few years ago.

henry s, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 00:05 (two years ago) link

I've been friends with Joe Cassidy on FB for a while now -- very gently affable fellow, I'd say. Highly looking forward to this of course!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 00:46 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
four months pass...

Searched Assassins today, and did find this note - On September 23rd 2016, NØISE (Shepard Fairey, Joe Cassidy, Merritt Lear and John Goff) released the single Little Lions/ Automatic on Obey Records along with a double 12" of remixes by the likes of Moby, The Crystal Method and Phil Hartnoll (Orbital).

So maybe under a different name? (and now I have to search out that release, 4 years on. GRR.) Merritt's voice with Joe's gives me the same sparks that Emily Haines did on the first Stars ep.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 June 2020 19:55 (two years ago) link

Almost disappointed at the easy search - Thought I'd have to check ASCII code for NØISE.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:01 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Utterly love lots of the My Bus album. In my head, I'd banged on about it already but seemingly not really.

This is probably my favourite song from the album:

djh, Monday, 13 July 2020 20:24 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...
four months pass...

Insides have just Tweeted that Joe has died.

I could really do with this not being true.

djh, Friday, 16 July 2021 18:33 (one year ago) link


*checks Facebook*

Fuck. It's true.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 July 2021 20:22 (one year ago) link

Sorry Ned. Know he means a lot to you.

djh, Friday, 16 July 2021 20:55 (one year ago) link

Oh shit. He was part of informal hoot nights in Chicago in the early 2000s, saw him a lot in small clubs and was always genial then.

... (Eazy), Friday, 16 July 2021 21:03 (one year ago) link

He was just a friendly funny guy, you know? One who had done a lot and ended up in America and seemed pretty happy with it, enjoying life in LA and Chicago. Not knowing the cause I won’t speculate but he had been hospitalized and it reminds me of nothing so much as my uncle’s sudden death some years back.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 July 2021 21:05 (one year ago) link

It appears pneumonia and then sepsis was the cause. What a tragedy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 July 2021 21:33 (one year ago) link

Just awful. I've got a couple Chicago music industry friends that are just gutted about this tonight. Met him a couple of times & genuinely good bloke.

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 17 July 2021 00:17 (one year ago) link

Yeah there’s a wrenching amount of posts on his FB page from Chicago folks, clearly his spiritual home. And from so many people worldwide — he never knew a stranger, it seems, and you can tell in the best way.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 July 2021 00:29 (one year ago) link

If there happen to be angels
I’ll swallow all my pride
I’ll kiss them all and say goodnight
And feel their words inside
Singing happily in nursery rhymes
On how I lived my little life.

But it wasn't little.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 July 2021 03:08 (one year ago) link

Not the news I expected on this revive. Very sad to lose such a talent. Condolences to all who knew him.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Sunday, 18 July 2021 00:02 (one year ago) link

I've tried to remember Joe Cassidy. I've done my best.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 July 2021 19:19 (one year ago) link

That link doesn't work for me. Does this?

djh, Sunday, 18 July 2021 20:05 (one year ago) link

Working on this end

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 July 2021 20:40 (one year ago) link

That is decent.

djh, Sunday, 25 July 2021 20:49 (one year ago) link

Thanks for that link. Great tribute. "Big, bold balloons of unbridled joy (even – or is that especially – when they were fundamentally melancholy) Joe’s songs appeared as if they had always existed somewhere" sums up that seeming disparity in a lot of music I love, like AMC/Mark Eitzel.

Also answers the question that felt awkward to ask: "There will be (“with my eyes closed I swear to you”) further records released by Joe. At the time of his death (15 July, 11.50 CDT) Joe had a trio of albums very close to completion – his acoustic/ orchestral Butterfly Child album, a new album by Assassins and another under a third name." There was a band name mentioned years ago, starting with a Z, like Zzaxx or Zzazz, that he was involved in, but memory's meshing that name with a Marvel electric monster and a Was (Not Was) tune.

Kate Bush news has a small article as well, with a free download link to his "Top of the City" cover.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:13 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

MaresNest, Monday, 1 August 2022 11:10 (two weeks ago) link

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