Cash Money - the definitive S/D

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We've already got a Cash Money C/D thread and a Mannie Fresh CD90 thread, but now with Mannie Fresh's new (fantastic) single "Real Big" it seems like a good time to look back and reevaluate, discuss which albums are worth buying and which aren't and why it is that Mannie can still turn out hot tracks - "Still Fly" and "Real Big" being the top notch exampels of recent Cash Money hotness.

"I Got That Work" is a favorite of mine, although it's hard to keep up attention throughout - its a long album and the misogyny can wear on one's spirit. Although in the correct context its superb. The juxtaposition of sexy, slinky pop and horribly offensive, misogynistic lyrics on tracks like "Snake" make them all the more fascinating to me.

Also someone discuss UNLV because I want to hear more.
And what's the source - I read somewhere that Mannie used to work w/ Steve Silk Hurley, and I'd like to hear about this and what evidence exists etc.


djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 13 September 2004 03:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think I'd walk around the neighbourhood where I live at night if my name was 'Cash Money'.

Sasha (sgh), Monday, 13 September 2004 03:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Monash University is a dangerous hood?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 13 September 2004 03:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Monash is pretty tame. Middle suburban residential/industrial district. Although there have been sexual assualts on campus at night - it's a big spacious campus out in the middle of nowhere with poor lighting and non-existent security guards. But Sasha probably doesn't live on or near campus.

My favourite Cash Money album is still Guerilla Warfare. I'm enjoying Juve the Great though (only just released over here).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 13 September 2004 03:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Only my email resides there now. Not that I ever did.

And why would I be going to Uni at night?

Sasha (sgh), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

also from 'i got that work' - stuntastic
hot boys - guerilla warfare cd is pretty good.
400 degreez
course the singles collection..

adam west (adamwest), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Juvenille really did seem to be the break out star for a small while, followed by Lil Wayne.

David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like everything from UNLV through the 2nd Lil Wayne record (the really early stuff is a little too lo fi). After that only "Hood Rich" is necessary. "Real Big" is also good though the more I think about it the more over Cash Money seems. So I'll stick with my golden age. The new millenium obv belongs to Lil Jon and David Banner.

adam (adam), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

400 degreez is a total classic.
Flossin Season, Ghetto Children, Gone Ride With Me, 400 deg. and OF COURSE Ha and Back that Azz up are ALL STARS.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Lil Wayne's Tha Block is Hot is fantastic, esp Loud Pipes (does hiphop get any more outrageously shiny & blingtastic?), Fuck tha World (funniest sad rap song ever), Lights Off (another beautiful sad song, sad because the clique has KILLED YOUR WHOLE BLOCK), Remember Me
And I really disturb myself by getting a kick out of Kaisha's lyrics. I should be ashamed

love Juvenile's Tha G Code too. Thankyou Jess for going on & on about it

Keith McD, Monday, 13 September 2004 08:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

U Understand from Tha G Code was sort of my household's theme song for a while. "get the fuck." has become part of our vernacular because of it. The last track 'Guerrilla' is really eerie and atmospheric. It's my brother's favourite Cash Money song. He's not usually a fan; he's into improv and sound art

Keith McD, Monday, 13 September 2004 08:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

cash money could do no wrong between 97-00. search EVERYTHING.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

but esp.: lil wayne - "shine", "high beamin", "tha block is hot", loud pipes"

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

destroy intermittenly thereafter; i'm beginning to realize i don't like jazzee pha as much as everyone else seems to.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

How many times have we done this thread now?

Personally, if you're talking about albums, i think CMB albums were at their most unlistenable 97-00.

Here's what i wrote about UNLV if you're interested:

Currently my favourite CMB song is "Cash Money Millionaire" by Lil Wayne off his new cd, it's really dense and melodic and has this disgusting fat keyboard noise that sounds like the devil talking. And Lil Wayne is a really nice rapper now.

scg, Monday, 13 September 2004 10:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"4 Minutes" =most slept on Cash Money track. Actually, Project English has a few great cuts on there, but overall it's a big disappointment.

Midnite_Vulture, Monday, 13 September 2004 18:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

scg we haven't done it at all - we've done various threads on Cash Money but never a good search-and-destroy one.

I like what you wrote on UNLV - thanks a bunch.

Not to ride the fence or anything but I'm somewhere in between Jess and scg on this one....I certainly don't think CMB were unlistenable from 97-00! But they did have their fair share of shit tracks. Most definitely. "Shine" is definitely one of my all-time favorite hip-hop tracks though. Jess I agree about Jazze Pha although he'll always have a spot in my heart for "Dro in Da Wind".

Cash Money is nowhere near as good now as they used to be of course.

Which B.G. album is the one to get though? No one's even mentioned him and he's supposed to be one of the best..."Bling Bling" is classic of course.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Also this is one for the ages. Someone call De Capo:

2. "Jazzy Bitch". Has the beautiful "Human Nature" sample, a typical Mannie rhythm with gun shot snares and tic-tac hi-hat. Tec-9 says "Well as a matter of fact i like the girl who sucks the ball-sack", i disagree though, it always feels like when you get kicked in the balls and they kind of dissapear into your stomach and turns me off a bit, it's alot nicer if they're just licked.


djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 13 September 2004 18:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Not only are the "Big Tigger Live on the Radio" tracks from Lil Wayne's 500 Degreez hilarious, they're the best-sounding on the album as well, really eerie partial apgeggios, beats playing with your sliding around your heels.

Tig: "Caller 2, get up outta here. Hey, W-B-I-TEEE-C-H, what's happenin'?"
Caller 2 (female): "Yeah, what's up? I got a problem with this nigga, he keep callin me, stalkin me an shit, callin talkin bout he want me to stick my finger in my booty."
Tig: "Ugh."
Third voice (Rock Master Rasheed, male): "Hello."
Tig: "So what you gonna do?"
Rasheed: "Say, bitch, I need to use the phone."
Caller 2: "Man, Rasheed, you tricky..."
Tig: "Rockmaster Rasheed?"
Caller 2 (amused): "Rockmaster Rasheed."
Rasheed: "Man, get off the phone, bitch."
Tig: "I say this dude who wants you to stick your finger up your ass, what's his name, you know that?"
Caller 2: "Some crazyass nigga name." [Pretending to be awestruck] "Gregory!!!"
Tig: "OK, well let's launch this one for my man Greg."
Rasheed: "Get off the fucking phone. I tol you fuckin ass, get off the phone."
Tig: "W-B-I-TEEE-C-H, 500 Degreez!"

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 September 2004 20:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The new BG single, 'I Want It' is ridiculous - almost like he's singing minor key nate dogg style.

Lazza, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Juvenile "Ha"

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

djdee if you want to hear b.g. get chopper city in the ghetto and then the new album life after cash money. you get to hear him on the coldest videogame mannie beats spitting cash money superfloss with all the hot boys and then distancing himself from cash money and getting all autobiographical and serious. i think you'll like him.

fuck everyone talking about cash money falling off. old cash money can barely even fuck with the stuff they're doing now.
the last big tymers album big money heavyweights is in the top five cash money releases of all time. so many good songs on that. it's the introduction to the new cash money philosophy. funny and smiling and no more harsh cold beats unless someone really wants to do a song about kidnapping or guns.
the last juve album was really good and the lil wayne cd is fucking amazing and ten times better than anything he did before. get excited about that mannie solo too!

333333, Monday, 13 September 2004 23:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

read this

3333, Monday, 13 September 2004 23:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I donno though I Got That Work has more joints on it I'd rather listen to than Heavyweights which does have some good stuff but on the whole....I mean Mannie can still drop some banging beats and "Still Fly" is one of the best songs of the 00s but songs like "Oh Yeah," postive/happy or not, are boring. (Another example of Jazze Pha dropping the ball).

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

33333333, that reminds me.. "back up" off of the latest big tymers is a definite search.

adam west (adamwest), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Bump, over a year and some more records later.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 02:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ethan was otm about b.g. albums, Tim otm about Guerilla Warfare, etc.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 December 2005 02:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

This isn't cash money, but has anyone heard Da Real Choppa? I like it.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 December 2005 02:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

How's Turk's last one?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 03:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

I realise my Cash Money collection is not nearly large enough.

I have:

400 Degreez
Chopper City In The Ghetto
Guerilla Warfare
Tha Block Is Hot
The G Code
Hood Rich
Juve The Great

... and that's it! Shameful. What is the next Cash Money album I absolutely need?

Tim F, Sunday, 11 July 2010 00:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh god

blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

'i got that work'

blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

u havent lived until youve heard snake

blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

also the movie soundtrack aint all that but this song is a must-hear b.g.

blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Okay "Snake" is great, if a bit disturbing.

The allmusic guide write-up makes Lights Out sound like a secret classic.

Tim F, Monday, 12 July 2010 11:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

'great but a bit disturbing' is p much the deal when it comes to 'i got that work' ... its a comedy record w/ a punch you in the gut effect (plus the occasional serious rap from the hot boys)

blap...tremendo (deej), Monday, 12 July 2010 12:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

the carter i

blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 04:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

"flossin season" is fucking alien music

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 08:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

mannie fresh is the greatest human being that ever lived

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 08:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

on a pure sonic level, i don't even understand how he conceived of like 30% of the sounds that make up his beats

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 08:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

one of the best rap beats ever bar none

*kl0p* (deej), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 09:21 (eight years ago) Permalink


*kl0p* (deej), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 09:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol I was just listening to Tha G Code yesterday afternoon.

Mannie+Juve make N.O.L.A. thugging sound like a swampy good time.

pf smangs (San Te), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 11:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

also Guerilla WArfare is great, and Juvenile may have my favorite voice of all rappers....

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I just realized that clicking that I like "Hot Boys" on Facebook may have given some of my friends a very different message than intended.

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Friday, 4 February 2011 22:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

on a pure sonic level, i don't even understand how he conceived of like 30% of the sounds that make up his beats

i love mannie's beats, but none of the sounds in that track are especially out? live bass + live guitar + one synth sound? he's got some crazier-sounding beats, sure, but mostly i think it's his sense of melody that sets him apart.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 4 February 2011 23:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

really feeling wayne's "calling me killer" recently -- really cool wobbly/scratchy bass on that one

chilli, Saturday, 5 February 2011 06:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

as i said six years ago, chopper city in the ghetto.

best mannie beats, too, if you into that. see example above.

dylannn, Saturday, 5 February 2011 06:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

I really dig "Chopper City" (the first one, not 'in the ghetto', though that is sen route to me, and i've also heard it before and love it)

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 04:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

... The new millenium obv belongs to Lil Jon and David Banner.

― adam (adam), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:39 (10 years ago) Permalink


adam, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 19:39 (three years ago) Permalink

kinda odd to think about cash money, which had a fairly unified aesthetic and production approach, disintegrating and recombobulating over the years and ending up as this splintered identity-free umbrella for like the wayne/drake/minaj axis and rich gang and shit. mannie's departure is the obvious transitional moment but i feel like it came earlier, maybe when they ditched that pen & pixel cover art style? 500 degreez?

adam, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 19:45 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

one of the great achievements of mankind

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 July 2018 18:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

hard agree

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 July 2018 18:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

i think i'm going to buy a used CD of discogs for the first time! this isn't on streaming i guess (i suppose everyone involved hates each other and has filed a zillion lawsuits against each other over the years)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 July 2018 20:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

Is that the video to "cash money is army" bcz if so I agree

brimstead, Friday, 6 July 2018 18:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

Still listen to my cd rip of this comp all the time

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 6 July 2018 18:27 (seven months ago) Permalink

Is that the video to "cash money is army" bcz if so I agree

― brimstead, Friday, July 6, 2018 1:06 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a youtube playlist of cash money platinum hits vol 1 (does include cash money is an army)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 July 2018 18:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

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