Alan Parsons Project: Classic or Dud?

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Prog-rock/lite-rock legends or cheap Floyd knockoff?

flankster, Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Um, I meant to say "Classic".

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the sound of my parents discovering new sounds

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


therefore classic

also Sundar to thread...

Reed Moore (diamond), Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Um, i meant to say "classic"

xpost ya fucker

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

These men couldn't possibly steer you wrong.

flimflamman, Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dark Side of The Moon really is a fucking unbelievable SOUNDING record, f the haters

Reed Moore (diamond), Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ladies love Alan Parsons too:

john lerman, Sunday, 12 September 2004 07:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

There are a couple of decent tracks on the Edgar Allen Poe: Tales of Mystery & Imagination album.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The only APP track I have is 'I Wouldn't Want To Be Like You'. I have the impression it is not representative, but it's great.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Time" = Most depressing, most suicide-inducing song of all time = Classic

Time, flowing like a river
Time, beckoning me
Who knows when we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river
To the sea

Goodbye my love, Maybe for forever
Goodbye my love, The tide waits for me
Who knows when we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river (on and on)
To the sea, to the sea

Till it's gone forever
Gone forever
Gone forevermore

Goodbye my friends, Maybe forever
Goodbye my friends, The stars wait for me
Who knows where we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river (on and on)
To the sea, to the sea

Till it's gone forever
Gone forever
Gone forevermore

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

'Eye in the Sky' is classic, I haven't heard much else.

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 12 September 2004 22:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Believe me, the sun in your eyes made some of the lies worth believing."

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 13 September 2004 01:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Eve has one of the most disturbing album covers in the world.

Trouble Hand, Monday, 13 September 2004 03:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"There are a couple of decent tracks on the Edgar Allen Poe: Tales of Mystery & Imagination album.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), September 12th, 2004."

My ex-flatmate bought this 'cause he liked the idea of it. I'm not sure if he ever listened to it, but it and a really bad single by 'The Aloof' were the sum contributions to our flat's record collection.

I though we were going to talk about the "death star" and Moon Unit Zappa.

Sasha (sgh), Monday, 13 September 2004 03:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Justine Bateman once reviewed an Alan Parsons Project album. I can't remember where it was published, though.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I just got done reviewing the new one, which is Parsons' attempt at electronica. Stay away unless you're an APP diehard.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Are you Justine Bateman???

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"don't answer me" = classic

pheNAM (pheNAM), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"The Raven" on the Edgar Allen Poe album -- which this thread encouraged me to dig out -- is a mighty fine bit of proto-goth histrionica. Seek it out, o ye inclined to wear all black.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic as audio accessory. A hi-fi friend's tweaked-out system and one of those Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs ultra-albums of "I, Robot" made me see god.

briania (briania), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm I wrong in remembering that bits of "I, Robot" played inexplicablly during parts of the Tatum O'Neil vehicle, "Little Darlings"?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sounds wackily possible. It was a fine line between pop & muzak back when audio went all creamy in the 70s. Bet there's not much APP on the soundtrack to the new "I, Robot" movie, is there?

briania (briania), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Bet there's not much APP on the soundtrack to the new "I, Robot" movie, is there?

I would doubt it with every fibre of my very being.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Therefore: two thumbs way down.

briania (briania), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

weird, i was singing 'eye in the sky' this morning on the way to work for no apparent reason. i haven't heard it in days. classic song. haevn't heard anything else by them that i can recall.

6335, Monday, 13 September 2004 15:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

$cientologists weren't they. loved the video to 'don't answer me", still listen to their stuff when I find it in my records (many their tracks mix into Kompakt sets no problem)

nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dud, nonetheless

nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I, Robot is pretty good. "Time" reminds me of "Us And Them" (which AP engineered, o'course.) Best thing about "Eye In The Sky" is the little fugue-y instrumental that precedes it. Best thing about "Don't Answer Me" was the Lichtenstein-like video, but the song itself was OK. That's all I've heard...

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 13 September 2004 16:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This is as good a place as any to list and celebrate Alan Parsons' brilliant production skills. Pilot's "Magic," for starters.

briania (briania), Monday, 13 September 2004 16:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
i like their instrumentals! Lucifer, Voyager, Mammagamma, all classic. the rest, not so much.

PRKLTR (flezaffe), Saturday, 7 October 2006 09:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i like every alan parsons project album that i've ever heard. and i've heard all of them.

also: search the one & only Trefethen album!!!!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 October 2006 12:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

trefethen info courtesy of AMG:

"In the mid-'70s, engineer, songwriter, and musician Tom Trefethen began a lengthy association with soft rock band Ambrosia, engineering their first three albums. The origins of this partnership can be traced to the early '60s when Trefethen and future Ambrosia bassist Joe Puerta struck up a friendship, learning guitar and writing songs together. While in high school, Trefethen played with another Ambrosia founding member, Christopher North, in the psych-rock outfit Blue Toad Flax. Along with Burleigh Drummond and David Pack, North and Puerta formed Ambrosia in 1971. Although it took the group a few years to score a record deal, their debut album -- produced by Alan Parsons and engineered by Trefethen -- was a Top 30 hit upon its release in 1975. Trefethen received industry recognition for his work when the record was nominated for a Grammy for Best Engineered Recording. Before the end of 1976, he engineered two more recordings that became Grammy nominees for his contributions, Take Me Back by gospel singer Andraé Crouch and Ambrosia's second effort, Somewhere I've Never Traveled. Also during this time, he worked on Parsons' debut effort, Tales of Mystery and Imagination.

Crouch's Take Me Back was the first in a string of contemporary Christian albums Trefethen would engineer. Glow in the Dark by Chuck Girard, Welcome to Paradise by Randy Stonehill, and For Him Who Has Ears to Hear by Keith Green are all considered important releases in the development of the CCM genre. Trefethen's work with Ambrosia continued until the release of Life Beyond L.A. in 1978. After the album was released, he focused his attention on releasing his own album, which he had finished recording in 1977. He soon hooked up with Michael Nesmith's Pacific Arts label and engineered Nesmith's album Infinite Rider on the Big Dogma, released in 1979. A year later, Pacific Arts released Trefethen's album, titled Am I Stupid or Am I Great?/It's All Mom's Fault. Assuming all songwriting and production duties, Trefethen was joined on the album by all original members of Ambrosia helping out on instrumentation. Alan Parsons and Andraé Crouch also made guest appearances. The songs and the packaging of the LP suggested a loose concept album; the bizarre cover photo showed raincoat-clad Trefethen and sister Tina sitting atop a jet engine. Despite some promising response from college radio, Trefethen's eccentric brand of pop never found an audience, due partly to poor distribution and other label tribulations.

Trefethen took a break from music business after the release of his album but returned in the 2000s, building a studio and creating his own production company. With assistance from Parsons, he released the ambitious, Internet-only single "Johnny's Gone Away" in late 2005. Trefethen performed the song, written in 1980 after the death of John Lennon, at the 25th annual Lennon candlelight vigil in Hollywood. He also recently contributed his talents to the Mountainfilm Festival, composing and producing three original musical works for montages presented at the event. Interestingly enough, Trefethen's name is semi-famous outside of music. His 1969 sketches of a vehicle designed to break speed records are well known among enthusiasts of high-speed land travel."

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 October 2006 12:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink


m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They have gotten a sort of unfair treatment, probably because they did "prog", sort of, at a time when punk ruled. Parsons did roughly the same thing Moody Blues and Barclay James Harvest did. He did it better than BJH although not quite as good as Moody Blues.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I must say I feel late to the party. Will have to try some Alan Parsons properly soon.

John Cougar Mellencamp sucks and you know it (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah, i'm a fan.

jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

All the beardo/cosmic people seem to be huge into Parsons, especially via the re-edit.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Lovefingers has a track posted now and both Tropical Computer Jeremy and Pilooski/dirty edits have done Alan Parsons edits.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink


Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 7 October 2006 19:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm glad Lovefingers is finally doing podcasting, I could never remember to go to the site.

There should be a TS thread between Bumrocks, Lovefingers, and the Dream Chimney people.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 7 October 2006 19:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Throw a bunch of shows on Via Radio in there too.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 7 October 2006 20:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm mildly shocked that the thread is this long.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 7 October 2006 20:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

alan parsons is great: "mamma gamma" is better than anything pink floyd ever did; "where do we go from here" (as played by our hero m. mayer) is (good enough to play in a german house set) ace and "don't let it show" is pretty fucking dark and a real heartbreaker. Also "i robot" is a belting album.

michael wells (michael w.), Saturday, 7 October 2006 22:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"mamma gamma" is better than anything pink floyd ever did

I agree Alan Parsons Project are underrated, but let's not exaggerate here :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i honestly think that "Time" is a work of genius. And it was a hit! And it's so fucking slow! god, it just fills me with awe and dread and love and fear.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

it was a hit! man did I ever love that song as a kid. "Time", and "The Voice" by the Moody Blues were the tunes that totally tripped my shit out.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i can't believe a goth band never covered "Time". APP albums are just cool. they sound fucking great, they are quirky, they are prog, they are pop, there are robots, what's not to love?

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

"Time" = Most depressing, most suicide-inducing song of all time = Classic

Seward OTM. Can't quite picture a goth band doing it though, unless they were industrial maybe.

Anyway, I've bought some CD's of APP now and the Edgar Allen Poe thing scared me off after only a few tracks. I really dug "I Robot" but I've still only heard it once (I was delighted to find it included Steve Harley singing on one track too! Wow!). "Eye In The Sky" was kinda half and half as far as good vs. boring tracks. I'm rather digging "The Turn of A Friendly Card" right now, though.

Bimble, Saturday, 1 March 2008 08:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I was disappointed that I revived this and no one said anything! I'm playing "I Robot" now and it's great fun even where it kindof veers into the cheesier aspects of 70's music. That Steve Harley track is so ominous. In fact, there's a real darkness to much of this record.

Bimble, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

From our upstairs porch I watch my neighbor,
a small town accountant with a voice like a toy keyboard,
begin his walk to work in his navy blue Botany 500 suit,
bought used in an L.A. consignment store while visiting his widower son-in-law and blind granddaughter,

and according to my neighbor, formerly owned by Gene Rayburn, the semi-retired game show host whose grotesque aura still haunts the seven o’clock time slots of my body’s internal clock along with Merv Griffin, Don Rickles, Cloris Leachman, Bert Convy, Wink Martindale, and the tenants of every Hollywood square,

those terrible hucksters, sickening adults/hyenas who seem to have had their protegés on every Main Street,
the men with perms, tight gray curls erupting over the alcoholic topography of their oiled faces,
a legion of salesmen ruined by bad translations of an already disastrous California ideal,
their eyes stinking like boiled cocktail onions as they emerged from “sleek” 1980 Thunderbirds,
all marinated teeth and snowplow moustaches,
fresh from invigorating divorces,
dragging tawny S-shaped girlfriends by the wrist to wooden gargoyle waterbeds where stereo systems built into the headboards played “Eye in the Sky” by the Alan Parsons Project endlessly through the night.


Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

snagged Pyramid on vinyl today, as of the first track it's terrific

J0hn D., Friday, 30 May 2008 23:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I have a soft spot for some of this stuff. But I have to add, the only time I've ever been booed as a Dj was when I tried to sneak a little "Eye in the Sky" into my set.

Actually Chipmunks doing Tom Petty got booed once too, but thats' because people thought I was playing it on the wrong speed on purpose. So that doesn't count.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 31 May 2008 01:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

crap, RIP Eric Woolfson

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

I had no idea until reading an obit that he wrote all the music for the Alan Parsons Project.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 4 December 2009 16:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

That's terrible! RIP.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 4 December 2009 16:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

weird, playing eye in the sky right now and didn't even see this revive!

scott seward, Friday, 4 December 2009 16:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

bummer RIP dude has made my ears happy

Crackle Box, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

Hearing Mammagamma atm I'm always impressed at how ahead of its time and how good it sounds. I have a friend with me who asked who it was because she thought it was from this year.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Sunday, 27 August 2017 23:10 (one year ago) Permalink

six months pass...

"Time" soundtracks one of the best shots in A Fantastic Woman. Will the Alan Parsons Project be this year's John Denver?

geoffreyess, Saturday, 3 March 2018 22:00 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

apparently not.

also: for years and years I thought "time" by APP was actually "fly like an eagle" by Steve Miller.

akm, Monday, 7 January 2019 21:44 (five months ago) Permalink

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