― peter $3, Sunday, 12 September 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 September 2004 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― p $, Sunday, 12 September 2004 05:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 12 September 2004 06:10 (nineteen years ago) link
This is all the view of a middle class Englishman dabbling in hiphop, so may be totally off base.
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 September 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 September 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 September 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 12 September 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 12 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link
No, he wasn't. MC Hammer was, though. Elsewhere, the two were often mentioned in the same breath.
― JoB (JoB), Sunday, 12 September 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Not initially, I don't think. Not until the full magnitude of the Vanilla Ice persona was revealed. I thought Ice Ice Baby was a hot record, for a minute.
― JoB (JoB), Sunday, 12 September 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 September 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 September 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Not until the full magnitude of the Vanilla Ice persona was revealed.my main question is, did he ever slang dust in the m.i., or even weed, or was he a malibu's most wanted-style suburban cultural disaster?
― peter $.., Sunday, 12 September 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter $.., Sunday, 12 September 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 September 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Chuck D has said that he and the Bomb Squad wanted to work with him prior to his getting a record contract.
― Vic Funk, Sunday, 12 September 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
well it did become one of the fastest-selling singles of all time or something like that, didn't it?
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 September 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Eh... he was managed by "Suge" Knight I believe.
― JoB (JoB), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
i believe he was actually from the dallas suburbs or something.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link
He didn't produce it, I can't remember what the name of the guy was who did it but he was someone who DJed where he used to breakdance i think.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 12 September 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
I wonder how much the backlash against the pop success of breakdance heavy acts like Vannila Ice and MC Hammer had to do with the abandoning of the whole elements thing in mainstream Hip-Hop.
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 12 September 2004 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 12 September 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
i.e. "he's not even hip-hop" = stay in your place.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
I think this is otm.
I dunno though, the actual hiphop community seemed to be kind of free of the idea of 'sell out' in those days - if you made it, you made it.
I don't think this is true. The accusations were certainly made. Interestingly, it was Chuck D. (who I think would have been held up as a model of not selling out) who more than once defended artists accused of selling. I think I even saw him do this in person once (at a free panel discussion with Chuck D., Harry Allen, and I forget who else) in reference to that guy whose name escapes my memory right now, but you know who I mean. His not so clever (but realistic enough) line was: well, if you've got a bunch of CDs you made sitting on the shevles, you better sell them out.
Am I imagining it, or was Vanilla Ice actually listed in one of those long lists of big ups on the inner sleeve of 'Nation Of Millions' or 'Fear of a Black Planet?
It's not impossible. I remember Public Enemy's liner notes (at least by that point) going out of their way to argue for a very inclusive idea of hip-hop.
This is all the view of a middle class white American, though I was following things semi-seriously at the time.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
That's the guy whose name I couldn't remember.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter $.., Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
am I mistaken or didn't he initially DENY that he had sampled Under Pressure?
yay! I get to share one of my favorite quotes for the 80th time on ILX.
"see their song goes dee-dee-dee-diggy-dee-dee dee-dee-dee-diggy-dee-dee. Ours goes dee-dee-dee-diggy-diggy-dee-dee DEE-dee-dee-dee-diggy-dee-dee. It's totally different."
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter $.., Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
"yo, KAT! words o' wisdom...drop that zero and get with the HERO!"
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
what bside single did v blow up on?
impt question -- how much of the "he's not even hip-hop" thing came from people who *don't like hip-hop*? i've noted that the first to denounce "sellouts" are often the least familiar, and often the most concerned with hip-hop incursion onto their own territory -- in this case "white ppl. music". yeah
I wonder how much the backlash against the pop success of breakdance heavy acts like Vannila Ice and MC Hammer had to do with the abandoning of the whole elements thing in mainstream Hip-Hop. the question is would you rather see breakdancers or women vibratin? in living color bridged the gap, but now we're almost there w/beyonce & video girls. lloyd banks is a bastard, and 50 manipulates his image and salability so well.
― peter $.., Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
The kids on my bus knew every goddamn word immediately.
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter $.., Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 September 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter $l, Monday, 27 September 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― DR. O. RLY? (eman), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link
wtf pumpkin tattoo
― am0n, Sunday, 19 August 2007 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link
h8u4lyfe
― luriqua, Sunday, 19 August 2007 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link
lol sub-Durst
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 August 2007 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Uh.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 November 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz Special Ed cover
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 November 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Like all the greats-- Madonna, Bowie, Cher-- he's constantly reinventing himself and pushing his limits.
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf at this thing
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
who's seen the super-excruciating arsenio hall interview? he comes across as even thicker than you'd expect:
― stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
uh
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
unfairly!
― Kevin Keller, Monday, 10 November 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
http://funmeme.com/images/funmeme_com/WindowsLiveWriter/FunnyWATCHFORsign_5DBB/wath-f-vanilla-ice_3.jpg
― WE ARE ALL GEETIKA (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link
oh that is too funny.
― Kevin Keller, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Arsenio Hall is the one who looks like an asshole in that interview. Vanilla Ice seems like a nice guy.
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
the laws of physics: yo that shit is wack. Quite possibly the best movie scene of all time:
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link
what the hell is that crap?
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link
cut the zero get with the hero
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link
One of many, many fine moments in Ice's feature film, Cool as Ice.
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost
http://i34.tinypic.com/2vt8aqf.jpg
― craig sager (eman), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
did u go?
― beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i tested my will on the vanilla ice luge
― craig sager (eman), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
and lost :(
― craig sager (eman), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 19:39 (1 month ago)
a nice, stupid guy.
― mensrightsguy (internet person), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
his autobiography (or memoirs) was called "to the extreme" right?― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, September 12, 2004 1:08 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Not "To The Extreme Right"?― Alba (Alba), Sunday, September 12, 2004 1:10 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― goole, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link
"Magnetized by the mic while I hit my juice" is a dope-ass line. But MAJOR PROPS to "Having a Roni". The pinnacle of his career!
I'm upset that Hammer gets lumped in with him where Hammer is actually far more awesome and talented.
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm_-ilEO3g4
― al gould everything (crüt), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuaWV4kWCVU&NR=1
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
the "Extremely Live" album is actually quite entertaining, if you can find it. in retrospect it's kind of funny how people who weren't even born by 1991 can recite Ice Ice Baby word-for-word, given all the flack it's gotten
― frogbs, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
I
wtf pumpkin tattoo --am0n
He was born oct 31 iirc
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 January 2013 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
Not since Bryan Ferry was on that one plane that was hijacked.
So I just landed from Dubai and now there is like tons of ambulances and fire trucks and police all over the place pic.twitter.com/i9QLh6WyJW— Vanilla Ice (@vanillaice) September 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
plane was SICK
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
police on the scene, u know wut I mean
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link
Best response: "Stop. Contaminate and listen."
Second best: "Hope you were able to get word to your mother."
― Eliza D., Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckNuJuO_N2w
Thought this was the hottest shit ever when I was too young to know better.
― triggercut, Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link
probably listened to that CD 100 times as a kid and had no idea who "Rob Van Winkle" was. I thought that was just some stupid name the Bloodhound Gang made up
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
Same. And I don't remember the back of the album crediting him at all, let alone as Vanilla Ice.
BLOODHOUND GANG AND ROB VAN WINKLE...TOGETHER ON THIS TRACK
― triggercut, Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link
oh boy, havent heard that in a v long time... they really tried to ride the beastie boys sabotage train w that one.
― Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
Good read!https://www.theringer.com/music/2020/10/6/21494291/vanilla-ice-to-the-extreme-ice-ice-baby-history-30th-anniversary
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
I think that if the internet had been around to the extent it is today back in 1990, then Vanilla Ice might not have come off so badly. The entire media story, at lease in the UK, was that he was a fool, poser, etc.. But now there'd be Twitter stans (lol thanks Eminem), and he himself would be engaging much more directly with the public at large through social media. On the other hand, if Soundcloud and other music platforms been around back then, would he still have taken the compromised path to fame that he did.He did pave the way for other white rappers in a sense, because he was so totally criticised that anyone following after him had a) a model of what not to do, and b) a very low bar to get over (don't be a complete fool like this Vanilla guy).
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvp9ELDix5I
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
The Art Of 'Cool As Ice'
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Monday, 1 March 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link
The Art Of 'Cool As Ice'🕸
― Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 1 March 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link
W.T.F. (Wisdom, Tenacity and Focus), also known as W.T.F. or just WTF, is the sixth and, to date, most recent studio album by American rapper Robert Van Winkle, known as Vanilla Ice. Originally scheduled for a 2009 release, it was officially released as a digital download on August 30, 2011, through Radium Records, executive produced by Vanilla Ice, Nick DeTomaso and Mark Mehwald.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link
he could have been bob van winkle. but instead, he became vanilla ice
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link
“yo, Bloodhound Gang and Rob Van Winkle, together on this track”
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 04:30 (one year ago) link
"Rob Van Winkle in the conference room!"
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuxNq_FIvgQ
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 04:47 (one year ago) link