Herman's Hermits rock fuckin' HARD

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So fun, so catchy, so devil-may-care. Who can argue with hedonistic phrases like "I'm into something good"? This is fuckin' party rock at it's finest.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

do you wear sweaters to rock shows, and never dance while you are there?


Michael Taylor, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The original version of 'I'm Into Something Good' by Earl-Jean is one of the greatest singles ever made; the Herman Hermits version is a travesty.

Andrew L, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

do you wear sweaters to rock shows, and never dance while you are there?

Sometimes I do. I mean, I never dance and I like sweaters. Sometimes I wear two. Uh... why?

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

and legwarmers.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Peter NoOne is/was the weakest "rock star" that ever weres. (Even Davy Jones was cooler.)

Dave225, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm afraid you've got the whole thing backwards. Herman's Hermits are the most influential band in history with their crazily amazing sound.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The only thing that might even come close is the Archies. What's more hummable, Sugar Sugar or Don't Go Out Into The Rain?

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't believe people have the temerity to dismiss the Hermits. "Silhouettes" is one of the best singles ever. They were straight up, full on POP but they did it with a panache that few of their counterparts could muster.

Nicole, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks, Nicole. One song I have to admit I don't like is Sea Cruise, but one song I'm happy to declare my undying love for is Henry VIII. I'm enery the eigth I am, enery the eighth I am, I am... It's hard core. At it's finest, no less!

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daughter/court 'er = magical brilliant rhyme!

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of the most bizarre TOTP appearances ever (was recently screened on TOTP2): HH circa early '68 doing "I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving." Noone smirking and not even pretending to mime (ditto band). Kind of attempt at doing "Silhouettes" a la Motown, but no one told this to Johnny Pearson Orchestra who turned it into a George Shearing-type lounge thing. 50 million times more bizarre than anything on that damned Robbie Williams "Swing With Derek Bentley" album, that's for sure.

Vague toddler memories of even more surreal performance of "Oh You Pretty Thing" circa '71 which may or may not have had DB/Spiders backing Peter Noone.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I used to hear "Must To Avoid" as "she's a muscular boy". Very Brett Anderson. And "No Milk Today" really moves me. Its so corny and sad and Kinks-lite--"the bottle stands forlorn/a symbol of the dawn." They were wonderful.

Arthur, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Arthur's damn right. "No Milk Today" is wonderful.

"My Sentimental Friend" and "Years May Come, Years May Go" are in theory incredibly moving farewells to the dying 20 years of shared national innocence, though I'm not sure whether I'd ever actually choose to listen to either.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

First show I ever saw = Peter Noone at Colorado State Fair free concert amphitheater. (Note: ticketed amphitheater featured Latoya Jackson.) Peter Noone rocked my maybe 9-year-old ass plus cursed and had an English accent, and so ever since then, a small part of me has very much wanted to be just like Peter Noone.

Nitsuh, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i threw my herman's hermits out the window to break it for an art project. sorry. i remember really liking it tho.

cybele, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Here Comes the Star' = awesome meditation on the price of fame and attendant loneliness wrapped into unrequited love narrative. Nice orchestration too.

Ben Butler, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes. Okay, so they may not rock "hard", but if you think about it the right way... Anyway, I really do like 'em.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks to Nude Spock for starting this thread -- it reminded me of how much I like this band and how odd it is that I own nothing by them...

Nicole, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've noticed Germany manufactures these great cds for cheap prices that have about 30 of the best songs from bands like Herman's Hermits. I own one and I've since seen another in the store (containing mostly the same songs). Monkees, too.

Nude SPock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

That "she's a muscular boy" mishearing goes back to when that song was a current hit - it's noted in Meltzer's "Aesthetics of Rock" (written in the mid-'60s).

unknown or illegal user, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Never read it, Duane. Although I want to. I just took out A Whore Just Like All the Rest from the library. He really was the original rock curmudgeon, wasn't he? Why does he like X so much? I hate them.

Arthur, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah me too.

unknown or illegal user, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Meltzer - great writer, not always 100% reliable taste (he digs The Doors!)

Andrew L, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Herman got married on his 21st birthday and is still with his wife 47 years later.

That aside, I like the 'Ermits take on Donovan's song "Museum," it's a nice little groove. It was their first record that wasn't a total smasheroo in America and it failed to chart at all in the UK.

But I'd say "No Milk Today" and "There's a Kind of Hush" are their finest moments, and those two came out on the same 45 in the US, conveniently.

Such a joyful group - I can listen to them all day like a Tiger Beat reader in 1965.

Josefa, Thursday, 16 June 2016 00:00 (six years ago) link

the first rock band I ever heard - my father, who was a jazz guy, had some 7"s in the garage, who knows why - possibly relics of when he'd sold albums to retailers on commission for extra money - and I found "no milk today." it scared the shit out of me, all that minor key mid-tempo biz! it was b-sided with "there's a kind of hush," which I liked a little better but the bridge made me a little queasy - that long sustained chord at the end of each resolve produced a kind of visceral anxiety in four-year-old me

still I kind of liked them but considered them ominous

Love "There's a Kind of Hush"; my third favourite after "A Must to Avoid" and "Mrs. Brown."

clemenza, Thursday, 16 June 2016 00:18 (six years ago) link

if they play at a free outdoor event near you, do go see them. peter noone is a born entertainer. here's him yelling up to a woman who's staring down from her apartment window. "hey you up there -- i bet you're wondering who i am, right?" (woman nods.) you think you know, right? (woman nods.) "well you're exactly right! i'm tom jones!!!" (he and band break into a letter perfect rendition of "it's not unusual.")

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 16 June 2016 00:43 (six years ago) link

if they olay at a free outdoor event near me, how many of them will be original hermits?

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 16 June 2016 01:06 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

I bought an album from them at a garage sale years ago, some greatest hits thing that I never listened to. Anyway the gatefold is full of all these press blurbs about how Peter Noone is the quintessential high school heartthrob and how all the ladies went wild with lust every time he was around and then you put the record on and he sings like a chipmunk and all the lyrics are about how he's a total dipshit, it totally fuckin rules

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:38 (one year ago) link

i've seen him on the oldies / free concert circuit and he is a rip. funny as hell, spry because he started out really young. he makes the effort to incorporate local stuff into his comedy improvs which is a great touch. plus he closes with "there's a kind of hush" which is obviously the best song in the world.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:12 (one year ago) link

saw him once at westbury music fair which is on brush hollow road, kind of a strange turn off the highways. he made some crack about "hollow bollow road" which is what i've called it ever since.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:16 (one year ago) link

also saw him at a street fair in hoboken. there was a woman watching out her apartment window some distance away. he started talking to her: "i bet you're wondering who i am." she nodded. he said "i'm just who you think i am. i'm..... TOM JONES!!!" <<band breaks into a few bars of "it's not unusual" while he prances around the stage.>>

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:21 (one year ago) link

happy to see love for "no milk today" on here. "just two up two down." YT commenters helpfully explaining the old meaning of "gay" company to the kids. lol.

andrew m., Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:29 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I just watched “Mrs Brown etc.” on TCM. What a weird movie. I didn’t realize it was released in 1968. It felt like it was filmed a couple of years earlier, except for the scene where the Hermit’s minus Noone do a couple of faux-Cream “heavy” instrumentals at a nightclub.

As Michael Weldon put it in the Psychotronic Guide: “the damned movie’s about dog racing!”. Indeed.

The plot just dissipates. I don’t know if SPOILERS are necessary here, but:

Noone loses his prize greyhound (Mrs. Brown) at the same time his True Love (Mrs. Brown’s – a human – daughter) leaves him for a modeling shoot in Rome. He therefore misses out on the Big Race for which the Hermits were hustling their asses at menial jobs for in London to earn the entrance fees, while the Hermit’s lose their make-or-break gig and go back to Manchester (“there’s 500 bands better than us in London”). Mrs. Brown the greyhound does return – with child (er, puppy) – and yes, Noone sings the title song to her, but Noone and Mrs. Brown’s daughter never do get back together, with Noone settling for the rather hapless girl next door (who truthfully is just as attractive as MBD). The credits roll over scenes cutting between the Hermits tooling around in a bus and MBD making like Twiggy in various Rome settings. I suppose the message is There’s No Place Like Home, but it’s strange how everything just falls apart and all the storylines amount to nothing.

The movie’s limited but real charm is in its portrayal of an England where everyone from a wealthy fruit market magnate on down to a cheeky hobo is lovably eccentric and good-natured. Even the two ostensible assholes – the Phil Spector-style promoter, and the bullying photographer – are harmless.

It’s a dumb movie, but I will admit to getting a shiver when “There’s a Kind of Hush” (among the loveliest of UK invasion songs) starts up during the inevitable falling-in-love montage, and frustrated when the score teases “No Milk Today” several times, but never delivers.

gjoon1, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:52 (three months ago) link

Well I'm sold.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:07 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

For those who have always wondered what the Hermits got up to on their tours in the 1960s, the group's former manager Harvey Lisberg has a new memoir coming out in March which promotional copy describes as "uproarious, frank, and moving."

Josefa, Saturday, 21 January 2023 18:46 (two weeks ago) link


Stevolende, Saturday, 21 January 2023 19:18 (two weeks ago) link

They had three great songs (that I know of). I don't know how hard they actually rocked, though.

clemenza, Saturday, 21 January 2023 20:09 (two weeks ago) link

They achieved Maximum Heavy Hermanosity!

Who knows, Herman's Hermits could have rocked hard. Harvey Lisberg offered them Graham Gouldman's 'For Your Love', but producer Mickie Most turned it down as a single and on the song went to The Yardbirds.

Mickie Most also turned down Rice & Lloyd Webber's 'Any Dream Will Do' for Herman's Hermits, pre-Joseph & His Technicolor Dreamcoat, so there could have been a very different trajectory for Noone & Co.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Saturday, 21 January 2023 20:49 (two weeks ago) link

Speaking of different trajectories...


Just think...Hermie Stardust and the Hermits From Mars

Total Hermanosity, yes!

clemenza, Saturday, 21 January 2023 21:47 (two weeks ago) link


Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 22 January 2023 00:17 (two weeks ago) link

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