Ariel Pink

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If there's been a discussion about this guy somewhere else, forgive me. I got "The Doldrums" in the mail a couple days ago and it strikes me as hopelessly absorbing: super lo-fi, warped in places, pop played by one dude who maybe didn't think anybody was ever going to listen to him go on about meeting up with a girl named Kate or how much growing up sucks in double-tracked style, sometimes achingly falsetto.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Reminds me of very early Ween if they really inhaled the Scotchgard and recorded on speech casettes.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

It's funny -- everything that people say about this guy, including the shit that's meant to be negative -- just makes me think I would love it! Still yet to hear any. "The Doldrums" is the one on Paw Tracks, right? I should order that. Incidentally, the other discussions about him are on one of the Animal Collective threads.
Does anyone know about the double disc set he put out?

Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The double disc "House Arrest/Lover Boy" is beyond damaged, genuis stuff. Way more problems than B Wilson.
Can be hard to find through normal channels, but you can get his stuff through www.cdbaby.com

sexyDancer, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, listening again, I can definitely hear some Ween in there, in the best way possible. For some reason this has me thinking of a dude holing up in a bomb shelter with a tape player and some instruments and a 50-pack of blank cassettes right before a nuclear war, and recording these freaked-out songs as some sort of comfort to himself that despite the madness going on right outside, one day he’ll be able to safely re-enter the world.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

otm, except that the bomb has already exploded and he's still trying to record another baroque pop masterpiece while bricks fly everywhere.

sexyDancer, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

and succeeding. plus this isn't far off from the truth really, culturally speaking at least. he does live in hollywood, right?

duke canyon, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

AND SUCCEEDS!

duke fann, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

to me it just sounds like the best he could do with what he had. otherwise it's just pop.
i like it but i don't think there's any armageddon sirens going on anywhere.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

wait til you hear the ten minute "Trepanated Earth" off "Worn Copy" where he proclaims "Mankind is a Nazi" and the "Earth is a pile of dog shit". He's "immune to emotion" living "life on credit".

sexyDancer, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i've heard a similar approach used when discussing david berman too. like a "post-apocalyptic haze" thing

duke haze, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

and as with him and his work, there is some staggering kaleidoscopic talent lurking beneath the temporal hipster trappings IMHO

duke due, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

excepter loves them some ariel pink?

jean jeudi, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

*awwwww*

duke indeed, Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

hey could someone send me a song via gmail? all i have is an old version of "want me".

seahorse genius (seahorse genius), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

You can listen to tons of tracks at CDBaby.com it turns out. Are the CDs as lo-fi as those clips? Songs sound awesome, anyways...

Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

All I've heard is 'jules lost his jewels' (or at least I think that's what it's called), and that is a fantastically nice little song. I'm looking forward to the full-length. I also find it somehow terribly moving that A. Pink's website seems to have been a birthday present from his family, and there's still no real information on it yet.

Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

And by 'full-length', I mean 'Paw Tracks debut'.

Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Everything on Paw Tracks is extremely lo-fi.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i wouldn't consider Here comes the indian to be *that lo-fi...

BbetaA, Friday, 3 September 2004 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

This is 8-track, not 4-track, dog.

sexyDancer, Friday, 3 September 2004 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry I meant everything on the Ariel Pink Paw Tracks release, not Paw Tracks as a whole.

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...
gotta revive for the upcoming Worn Copy release. anyone else feeling dis?

i fucking love it

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

everybody's going crazzzzzzzy fr this!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

reynolds, woebot, geeta... I'm down too!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I think you'd like this, toby!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought the Doldrums was way better. Worn Copy's really good but....too long and too scattered, or something. I'm still figuring out my feelings here.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

shuffle function serves Mr. Pink well.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

very, very, very good. very good. this is what i always wanted Gary Wilson to sound like. Search "Life in L.A."

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Ariel Pink for president! Just think of the ecology! The electricity savings! The thrift!

Momus (Momus), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Revive to profess my undying love for Worn Copy. Even though this was apparently released on a CD-R at one point, will this still count as a 2005 release?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 7 April 2005 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

REISSUE

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 7 April 2005 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"House Arrest" is still by far his catchiest and most consistent album. I can't really get into worn copy much past the point where he declares that "mankind is a nazi"

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently, the person who originally realeased House Arrest is not allowing Paw Tracks to reissue it.

mitch dub (ano ano), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

That blows. Between "Alisa", "West Coast Calamities", "Gettin' High in the Morning", and "Interesting Results" it's probably the best bedroom pop album this decade will see.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

word

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

xypost: But that's just after the first few minutes!!!

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I know. hopefully the rest of the album will grow on me at some point, but after listening to worn copy 6 or 7 times, the second half of trepanated earth is the only thing on it that i really like.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"CREDIT"?

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

The free track on the paw tracks website isn't a patch on anything on Doldrums

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

down at the creepshow...

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
This is an incredible bit of music. Absolutely baffling but all the more wonderful.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:58 (fifteen years ago) link

It's like the music you hear in your head just as you're drifting out of consciousness with classic rock radio on.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

So... classic rock through a drainpipe, then, and then irritation that it's not LETTING you drift out of consciousness, and then silence?

I've still not heard 'Ariel Pink'.

The fact that 'lo-fi' has been used NINE ZILLION TIMES in this thread with barely any answers...

... doesn't appeal.

But perhaps I am KNEE JERKING?!

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link

When I think of low-fi, I always think of stuff done on cheap instruments and played very badly on purpose. This is stuff played on good equipment, written and played beautifully and then recorded on the cheapest equipment possible.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes but what are his INFLUENZAS!

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

70s and 80s rock/pop. Lots of Roxy Music, Lennon, Bowie, Talking Heads, New Wave etc.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

and R. Stevie Moore

naturemorte, Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Guided by Voices if they grew up listening to '80s pop radio instead of 60s and 70s classic rock. Plus he actually finishes the songs he writes.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The Cure are his biggest influence

i like The Doldrums A LOT, Worn Copy though, i don't know. It's not as catchy maybe, except for ' Jules Lost His Jewels'

rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost happy hunting!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 03:21 (one week ago) link

telling you all, he’s gonna play a party at mar a lago, 100%

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 15 January 2021 03:35 (one week ago) link

I like his music but i don’t know if maga-world will. We’ll see!

treeship., Friday, 15 January 2021 03:55 (one week ago) link

this is actually hilarious

frogbs, Friday, 15 January 2021 03:58 (one week ago) link

"I’m so gay for Trump, I would let him fuck me in the butt."

I’m so gay for Trump, I would let him fuck me in the butt.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 15 January 2021 03:59 (one week ago) link

I think he is fucking with everyone... even himself

treeship., Friday, 15 January 2021 03:59 (one week ago) link

Ariel Pink (voice drowned in reverb and tape hiss): Take a knee, my ass, I won’t take a knee

— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) January 15, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 15 January 2021 04:34 (one week ago) link

Fuck this asshole, but also genuine lol at these turn of fanbase Whoever makes a reaction videos of old conservatives listening to his music for the first time deserves the million views it would get.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 January 2021 04:41 (one week ago) link

Ugh autocorrect fucked my text a little bit, sorry m

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 January 2021 04:43 (one week ago) link

2021 pic.twitter.com/Nz2aniuIPH

— edboy (@carcrash9000) January 15, 2021

undomondo, Friday, 15 January 2021 06:57 (one week ago) link

Pink also uses the podcast to discuss arguing with his doctor father about COVID, maintaining that the vaccine “doesn’t actually stop you from getting the virus… It just stops the symptoms.”

I assume his doctor father said "No it doesn't" otherwise its not an argument.

Mark G, Friday, 15 January 2021 08:16 (one week ago) link

Do asshole artists hire asshole publicists to get on asshole tv shows or do these assholes just find each other through asshole magnetism

— Damon K (@dada_drummer) January 15, 2021

kieth chagrin (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2021 08:44 (one week ago) link

Amazing.

Pink's logical endpoint, arriving at full MAGA, seemed inevitable given the dumb shit and blatant misogyny of the last decade or so. Am always a bit disappointed at failed misanthropes like Pink. I mean: we get it, you're a terrible person, but any trve misanthrope would never end up being a full-fledged member of #teamtrump. It's, quite frankly, embarrassing.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 January 2021 08:46 (one week ago) link

(amazing referring to the Carlson screenshot w/ byline, xp'd)

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 January 2021 08:46 (one week ago) link

It looks like the roles of Tucker Carlson and Ariel Pink are being played by the same actor

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 15 January 2021 13:32 (one week ago) link

any trve misanthrope would never end up being a full-fledged member of #teamtrump

otm x100

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 13:40 (one week ago) link

One of the problems with being a solo act is that you can't break up.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 13:44 (one week ago) link

That's what alter egos are for.

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 13:47 (one week ago) link

Pink also uses the podcast to discuss arguing with his doctor father about COVID, maintaining that the vaccine “doesn’t actually stop you from getting the virus… It just stops the symptoms.”

um...maybe I misunderstand how the vaccine works but...isn't this true? iiuc it prevents the disease, COVID-19, but not coronavirus infection. The vaccinated can still carry and transmit the virus...no?

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:01 (one week ago) link

Maybe, maybe not. See, for instance:

https://www.thejournal.ie/pfizer-ceo-5323949-Jan2021/

But yeah, if that quote was meant to make him look bad, it fell flat.

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:06 (one week ago) link

have animal collective denounced this dude yet or have they been too busy scoring documentaries about soundcloud rap

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:08 (one week ago) link

re:the vaccine, its also just a pointlessly bratty "uh ACTUALLY" thing to argue with ppl about

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:55 (one week ago) link

otm

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:57 (one week ago) link

I guess that depends on the context, pretty obv. important and worth arguing if someone in your family is getting the vaccine and doesn't understand how it works. But as per pom^ this is a dumb point to beef w/

(I didn't listen to this clip because why)

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:00 (one week ago) link

I mean if there is any worthy "well, actually" this would seem to be a valid one

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:00 (one week ago) link

doesn't that imply that a vaccine wouldn't actually drop the transmission rates then?

frogbs, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:04 (one week ago) link

his intent is to talk shit about vaccines and create doubt about vaccines not inform people with nuanced medical information

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:05 (one week ago) link

xp that is a concern abt it, yeah, it's why we need x% to get vaccinated

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:05 (one week ago) link

I get that ums, just saying it was irresponsible to pull that quote in the context of what I'm sure what a lot of legit misinfo

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:06 (one week ago) link

so the idea is that you get infected but don't get the disease, therefore making it so you don't pass it elsewhere?

frogbs, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:06 (one week ago) link

this may be better on a covid thread

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:08 (one week ago) link

(no, idea is making it so you don't get sick or die form it)

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:09 (one week ago) link

from

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:09 (one week ago) link

obv important to know how the vax works, but for some strange reason something is preventing me from giving Ariel Pink the benefit of the doubt that his motives for this argument are purely informational vs enjoying having a gotcha to spring on people

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:10 (one week ago) link

porquenolosdos.gif

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:12 (one week ago) link

just saying it was irresponsible to pull that quote in the context of what I'm sure what a lot of legit misinfo

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:12 (one week ago) link

I know this isn't the thread but I don't want to leave it hanging so let me just say -- the studies assessing whether the vaccine prevents infection and transmission have not been finished yet, but there is every reason to expect the vaccine to stop or at least decrease those. What we know now is:

* the vaccines all do a really good job keeping people from getting sick;
* they probably reduce infection and transmission but we are not sure about that yet

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:17 (one week ago) link

I think I'll wait until the medical experts like R. Stevie Moore weigh in on this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:57 (one week ago) link

"I think I'll wait until the medical experts like R. Stevie Moore weigh in on this"

LOL

skip, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:16 (one week ago) link

Yes but what are his INFLUENZAS!

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, May 5, 2005 8:47 AM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

jmm, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:23 (one week ago) link

I mean, who among us is shocked that Ariel Pink takes retrograde/trollish political stands when he released a 2012 album called Ku Klux Glam. So edgy.

skip, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:45 (one week ago) link

from that Variety piece:

“because literally everything the Democrats stand for, every single platform, is bullshit. So Trump for me is an indictment on anything bullshit… I’m so gay for Trump, I would let him fuck me in the butt.”

I'm sure this has been suggested already, but are we totally certain this isn't just some terribly tasteless art prank? Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part. I still don't actually believe Vincent Gallo votes Republican, either. Not that it being a massive art prank would excuse any of it. Also not sure what the endgame would be of such a prank. I guess I find this all very confusing and not really that funny

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:10 (one week ago) link

gallo's thing isn't a schtick. neither is this.

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:12 (one week ago) link

this guy getting the benefit of the doubt even in 2020 makes me sick tbh.

map, Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:28 (one week ago) link

artists are egomaniacs, how is it hard to imagine they'd be into trump

map OTM

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:25 (one week ago) link

for two reasons: fuck AP and 2020 is actually still happening

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:26 (one week ago) link

more like Ariel Stink amirite

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:29 (one week ago) link

artists are egomaniacs

as generalizations go this is a really bad one

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:32 (one week ago) link

this is like the morrissey thing again "eccentric" white guys with hipstery followings get the most ludicrous benefits of the doubt extended to them with this shit. maybe he's supporting fascism because he supports fascism and maybe supporting misogyny because he's a misogynist. maybe if i'm a fan this would be shocking but i'm not a fan because of why this isn't shocking

Left, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:54 (one week ago) link

otm

map, Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:08 (one week ago) link


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