― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
"Mother Sky" the Cannibalism edit is better.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I wish I was more surprised that people love Can, but I'm not. They're one of those bands who live up to any hype people throw on them, and seem more "relevant" all the time.
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't mean that combatively at all; they're a great band and I credit Tago Mago with opening my ears to a lot of really amazing sounds, but there's just SO MUCH adulation for em here. I guess the 'problem' is that, as music dorks, we're going to like and dislike different things about their records--no agreement, no consensus on what specifically is the best Can album/track/moment, but an overall feeling of "fucking awesome band."
― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Midnight ROFFLEr (haitch), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link
i'd wait if i were you but then i've already got all their releases. the spoon and mute issues you mention are one and the same.
― phil turnbull (philT), Friday, 5 November 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 5 November 2004 08:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 November 2004 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link
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― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 November 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 November 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Good: Gommorha; Blue Bag (Inside Paper); The Empress and the Ukraine King; Mother Upduff; Cutaway (bits of it); Connection; Fall of Another Year; Ethnological Forgery Series No. 8; Ibis
OK: Doko E; I'm Too Leise; TV Spot; Ethnological Forgery Series No. 7
Shite: LH 702 (Nairobi/Munchen); Musette; Ethnological Forgery Series No. 27; Ethnological Forgery Series No. 10; Ethnological Forgery Series No. 36; Cutaway (most of it); Transcendental Express I suppose you could bin it - the version of "Ibis" on the CD is an edit when they could easily have edited most of "Cutaway".
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Regards to you.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― zappi (joni), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 8 November 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lefty, Monday, 8 November 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
As a side-note, is it just me or is "Gommorha" almost an exact rip-off of another track ca. Babaluma? "Dizzy Dizzy" maybe? I can't remember exactly — but I'm guessing it's from the same sessions.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
It sounds very spontaneous, you can hear everyone settling into the sequence, noodling about.
― (Jon L), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link
It doesn't sound anything like "Dizzy Dizzy"! However the intro section of "Cutaway" does sound like "Dizzy Dizzy" and so was obviously not recorded in May 1969, (there's another section too with synth on it that could not have come from 1969). Then again, bits of "Ibis" sound like "Dizzy Dizzy" too - tho possibly the bits edited out of the CD version as discussed above.
― De Doo Doo Doo De Da Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― De Doo Doo Doo De Da Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― De Doo Doo Doo De Da Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link
That's because it wasn't "Gommorah" that sounded like "Dizzy Dizzy" — upon revisiting my CD collection last night, I realized it was the last track on Unlimited Edition I was thinking about, "Ibis". If you take the keyboard sound off of it and add Michael Karoli's vocals and violin, it's virtually the exact same track — same beat, same staccato guitar licks, everything. Though it dates from Sept. '74, which seems a little late, it sounds as if it might be them finding their way into "Dizzy Dizzy"...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 19 November 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
The dynamics sound similar.
If anything it sounds less processed than before - it's certainly less harsh and trebley than before.
My only gripe is there seems to be some kind of noise-reduction gate (or other noise reduection technique) which occasionaly gives a senation of "pumping".
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 19 November 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, the vinyl remasters of the first four will be released with this batch of CDs... i mean, that's why i heard.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 18 February 2005 06:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 18 February 2005 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Friday, 18 February 2005 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link
(though I wonder if they'll get to the oddities like "Turtle Have Short Legs" or any of the collections like Can Delay 1968)
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Tim has them on cassette. Ooh. Quite the rebel! The audacity of owning Can on cassette! Or not...etc etc etc ad infinitum.
I hear a voice saying "just own them on all possible formats, then you CAN maybe get some sleep at night"
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 18 February 2005 08:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 18 February 2005 08:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 18 February 2005 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link