Sublime: Classic or Dud

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They're one of my brother's favorite bands

Jay, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

With all due respect to your brother, dud.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

40oz to Freedom was a classic to me at certain parts of my life, and now that I look back on it, I still adore it, but it's certainly a album that fits in certain time and places. The rest of their catalog is lacking.

Jeff, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

God, in California they were kings for a day... for the hemp-wearing, bong-tokin', hackey-sacking, snowboard crowd... occasionally funny lyrics, but pretty much 100% dud, with the worst fans EVER.

Andy, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The festering boil on the spreading hairy white ass of OC/Long Beach music. Thankfully now lanced.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i work in an indie record shop and interestingly enough the majority of customers coming in to buy sublime (quite a few) are actually attractive, personable, reasonably intelligent young women. the male variety of sublime fan is uglier than hell, unnecessarily confrontational and has difficulty with basic maths and polysyllabic words.

someone's gotta save those cute sublime girls.

fields of salmon, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Bradley brought a certain soul back to music that was lacking for quite sometime... His voice is beautiful. The boy was really talented. Just because he was into reggae, funk and black music, didnt play 4 chord droning riffs and didnt sing in monotone DOESNT make them a dud. Classic by far. In LA right now it seems that anything other than "indie" has a scarlet letter on it, and is deemed "uncool". Well fuck it. Gimme my Sublime, Fishbone, and dub records and im happy. If i want a dose of serious music ill listen to Force Inc or some shit.

chaki, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Fishbone? Ugh, you can have it.

Andy, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

someone's gotta save those cute sublime girls

Ooh! Ooh! I volunteer! Now all I need is some video of sublime guys to show them.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks! Anyway... theres another band with genunine talent, beautiful voices, a real message and innovative song writing. REAL RnB, and REAL funk n soul. Fishbone is the music of the working class, of the people. Not the music of the "mid twentys to early 30's middle class white folk." Fuck that shit.

chaki, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

even lookout records have conformed and gone emo.

chaki, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"genuine talent, beautiful voices, a real message and innovative song writing, REAL RnB and REAL funk'n'soul, Fishbone, the music of the working class, of the people" = the Louis Armstrong of our times, even.

mark s, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw them at a bay area festival when that "Date Rape" song was huge. They were awful. Then the lead singer died ..

and they were still awful.

Ali Gorji, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

its true. they were either great or horrid live. no happy middle.

chaki, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Just because he was into reggae, funk and black music, didnt play 4 chord droning riffs and didnt sing in monotone DOESNT make them a dud

Right. They just sucked. That's what makes them dud.

I'd forward you to the Cult Of The Forgotten Rock Star thread, but I don't feel like looking right now.

JM, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Fishbone is the music of the working class? More like first year liberal arts majors, hell-bent on changing the world through legalizing hemp... Black folks never liked 'em like the stoned white suburban kids did... As far as I can tell, in my neighborhood the 'working class' listen to Nelly and Mystikal, not Fishbone.

Andy, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Just because he was into reggae, funk and black music, didnt play 4 chord droning riffs and didnt sing in monotone DOESNT make them a dud...

Doesn't qualify 'em for the Hall of Fame either. Sublime always struck me as the kind of guys who Rollins was talking about when he said that eighties LA rednecks would have Oingo Boingo stickers on their cars.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Kinda hard to beat Mr. Raggett's description of Sublime. Such a hideous band, such a hideous schtick, and (with some help from their East Coast comrades The Mighty Mighty Lame Butt-tones) turned ska into the most joylessly tedious genre of jockstrapped morons (until Limp Bizkit came along). Yet another reason to bulldoze Orange County.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Im sorry but Bradley is a much better singer than Jack White or whoever.

chaki, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Technically, Celine Dion is a 'great singer' -- then why do I hate her so? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

see, i dont think she is a good singer. she sounds watered down and contrived where as Bradly is just singing from his bedroom on a 4 track. its all he knows and the boy has got soul. you dont see the difference ned?

chaki, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The one may be polished to a fault and the other may be more 'heartfelt' but if I don't *care* about either, what is the point?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

As much as I hated, hated, the whole ska revival (butt tones big butt voodoo daddy, hepcat, ad nauseum), I'm going to defend Sublime. Nowell may have been a heroin addled 'tortured' soul with monster ego, but he was able, for a brief moment in time, to create some haunting and beutiful music. The man had a beautiful voice, decent lyrical talents, and his interest in Reggae extended way beyond Bob Marley. Growing up in 'provincial' Southern California, I watched Sublime go from playing the Long Beach and southern Cali circuit to crossover sucess and a jockcore/fratcore fanbase. But, as much as I hate Sublime's fanbase, I'm still a fan of their music. Bashing Sublime is a lot like bashing (yes I'm going to drag him into this again) Bob Marley. Both musicians were gifted singers/lyricists who made catchy, danceable, accessible music that just happened to catch on with the wrong sort of crowd.

turner, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Bashing Sublime is a lot like bashing (yes I'm going to drag him into this again) Bob Marley.

Sorry, this is pushing it in terms of hyperbole (though lord knows I indulge in enough of that ;-)). I don't buy this equation for a minute based on a simple fact -- I enjoy Bob Marley quite a lot. Sublime aren't worth using my old toilet paper. Fuck the fanbase, I'm just not interested in the songs or the singer or the voice. I am amused at how Sugar Ray essentially used Nowell's corpse for their own devices, though.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"Another band with genunine talent, beautiful voices, a real message"

does anyone actually like any of these things. i like my bands to be kinda crappy and full of shit.

nick b, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
how can any of you people say that sublime sucked they made some of the best music in the last 20 years. they had a super-talented lead singer and they have a lot of really good songs have any of yuo ever heard "what i got" or "saw red" not to mention the acoustic CD. if anyone can name a band more talented and with more soul in their music then tell me cause ill listen to them.

james, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

o yeah and jimmythemod is a moron who lkistens to pop music

james, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

that explains everything!!

mark s, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

if anyone can name a band more talented and with more soul in their music then tell me cause ill listen to them.

bogshed.

jess, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Classic. People will have their own opinions about Sublime, but look how many loads and loads of bands these days all list Sublime as an influence. Bands that are a "dud" do not influence so many people like Sublime's music did. So what if it wasn't fundamentally the typical sound of a rock alternative band. Thats why I liked them so much and so many other people liked them. All of their songs had their own abstract sound and influences of many genres of music that

matt, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Bands that are a "dud" do not influence so many people like Sublime's music did.

Name me your least favorite famous band and then consider how many groups they influenced. And yet you still think them a dud yourself...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic. People will have their own opinions about Sublime, but look how many loads and loads of bands these days all list Sublime as an influence. Bands that are a "dud" do not influence so many people like Sublime's music did. So what if it wasn't fundamentally the typical sound of a rock or alternative band. Thats why I liked them so much, and probably why so many other people liked them. Brad sung from the heart with true emotion you just dont see anymore with all the manufactured crap out today.

All of their songs had their own abstract sound and influences of many genres of music. They were the first band I can recall to mix so many types of music and still appeal to the mainstream even. They were innovators of their own sound, and showed flashes of brilliance when brad wasnt strung out. For people to say its good that he died this and that is a bunch of crap.

To the people that bash Sublime, at least give a reason that has some substance and give an example of what "good music" really is, or should sound like. Not the typical "they sucked" response. If you just personally didnt like the style then thats fine, but you cant deny they dont deserve to be bashed in my opinion. I bet that most that are, havnt listened to all of their music and are probably basing their opinion on a couple of songs. I'd say at the least they're one of if not the best alternative bands to come out in the 90's (which isnt saying much considering the crap) but DEFINITELY not a "dud".

matt, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

give an example of what "good music" really is, or should sound like

Good music is where you find it, and I don't find it in what I've heard from Sublime -- and though I've not heard everything by them, no, what I have heard is enough to not interest me further in their stuff. Simple as that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

misogynist california-stoner 'oh, we're diverse, we listen to reggae because it's the best thing to roll BLUNTS to yo' aggravating absolute colossal DUD. even the dalmatian cannot save them from this status.

maura, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Duddier than Dud. And to top it off, it's annoyingly catchy, so I keep waking up in the morning with that f'ing "Santaria" song in my head - ruins my whole damn day. Make it STOP!!!

Jay, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
Sublime is classic. Love those reggae beats!

Andy Abraham, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

all you morons obviously don't know what good music is if you have anything negitive to say about sublime. not only were they CLASSIC but they were one of the most unique and talented bands of there time. no band has ever affected there genre of music the way that sublime did and i don't see it happing ever again. Cheers to Sublime one of the BEST bands EVER!! RIP Bradley.

St0nedBasterd, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

How can there be so much negative comments about a band that was so loved. I know why?, cause mainstream appeal has never accepted Sublime. Alot, of people posting here on this board remember the song "date rape" & "What I got" & everything else that was played off of self entitled "sublime". These are the same type of people who go through new favorite bands every week. What is the hottest new trend of music coming up. So of course Sublime they think sublime was a fad that has come and gone. If you really listen to all the albums this band is "Classic". So everyone one else can go listen to Limp Bizkit or linkin park. "Not me, Cause now a days all the songs on the radio all drive me crazy." Sublime is Sublime & allways will Be CLASSIC! RIP BRADLEY & LOU DOG

John, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Laughable.

Sublime were and a remain a dud not because their music was a "fad," but because at the end of the day it was pretty shallow stuff: nothing too great or original to say, and not too many original ways to say it. And before you start throwing words like "reggae" around, do your homework. Sublime were as credibly reggae as fuckin' Ace of Base. Moreover, white rock bands splicing reggae/dub influences into their work is hardly new or innovative when you factor in names like, oh gosh, I dunno....the CLASH, THE POLICE, PUBLIC IMAGE LTD., THE POP GROUP, THE SLITS, THE PAYOLAS, THE RUTS, let alone legitimate 2nd-wave Ska bands like THE SPECIALS, THE SELECTER, THE BEAT, MADNESS, etc. etc.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I know why?, cause mainstream appeal has never accepted Sublime.

I find this particularly funny since I bet it was through MTV and a KROQ-style station that you heard of Sublime in the first place...you shouldn't be biting the hand that feeds. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

lmfao, ive seen some of the bands you guys praise so highly. so it makes a lot of the negative comments about sublime laughable. its hard to describe why theyre a classic, you just have to listen to it. in my opinion you guys dont know music if you cant give sublime and brad thier credit for what they put out with the resources they had. a true classic!

blyt3, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

also, i just wanted to add that alot of thier "shallow lyrics" weren't shallow at all, they were metaphoric and symbolic of other things. not everyone will understand that. to listen to one of the popular singles that got a lot of airplay you wont fully appreciate brad and the band as a collective's talents. alex, those bands you mentioned were good, and some influenced sublime. ill give you that, but none of them mixed it up like sublime did. each of thier albums were like puzzles. if you only listened to one track off of it, you only got a small piece, not the whole picture. and to the person that said sublime has the worst fans ever id beg to differ. just my .02

blyt3, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you *HONESTLY* suggesting that Sublime were more versatile or adventurous than the Clash or Public Image Ltd.? Have you never layed ears on, say, SANDINISTA or METAL BOX?!?!?!

Please get ahold of yourself and stay off that reefer, son!

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Sublime first became popular with their song date rape. And then they got popular after Brad died (RIP BRAD NOWELL 1968 - 1996) with their cd simply titled "SUBLIME" but if you think that sublime is a dud... you definately only heard the songs "date rape" and "what i got" you have to listen to more than a couple songs... you have to listen to the whole cd or it doesnt make sense... Sublime is a classic and will always be. you people who say that sublime sux and that the ziggins, the clash, grateful dead, ect. are so great, then listen to sublime... Those bands influenced sublime, sublime does covers from those bands and many other bands, you cannot say that sublime is a dud, they were the most talented band ever and they had a big influence on alot of people.

"Let the lovin let the lovin come back to me"

RIP BRADLEY JAMES NOWELL FEB. 22 1968 - MAY 25 1996 RIP LOUDOG 1989 - 2001

tony, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

jay the rule is whatever bands your brother likes the likelyhood is that they suck. You don't even have to listen to it.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought that was parents. i thought your older brother was supposed to shake down all the cool stuff like Sublime and No Doubt.

jack cole, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

you cannot say that sublime is a dud

Watch me.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm genuinely surprised Sublime had this much hate on the board. I always saw them as an ok band who had a couple decent hits, no more, no less. Heck, Bradley wasn't even alive when they struck it big so I've always seen them as kind of wallflowers. Perhaps not knowing the fanbase at the time saved my opinion of them.

Vinnie, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

SUBLIME=GAY

Chris, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"they are the most talented band ever" = surely true, whenever anyone uses this phrase ever

julio is korrekt, it is brothers not parents (generation gap = marketing scam)

mark s, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

(By which I mean Them Googlers rather than Good People like Chaki, Gear, etc., who can actually write.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

well this is an old thread and i stumbled on it while googling but i just wanted to say something.

i was born in 1970 in long beach california and actually was very tight friends growing up with the drummer of sublime, a guy by the name of bud gaugh. i knew of sublime from its inception in 1986 and i watched them rehearse, play shitty punker parties and clubs, and eventually sell out theatres and shit all over california. they were all really nice, down to earth guys and fun to be around. i read something up there about the lead singer having a monster ego, which is untrue, bradley was one of the humblest dudes i ever met. as for musical influence or whatever i'm just a punk from southern california, i can't help you there, but they kicked some mean shit back in the day and they were really, truly a great band and great guys (and rad as hell when it came to surfing)..

just wanted to say something since i actually knew all these guys way back in the mist.

MC, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

they were kinda too fat to surf

city of gyros (chaki), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

nah man, they could surf, you gotta remember brad was dope thin for most of the time i knew him, he did put on some weight when he kicked, when i last saw him in..january of 1996 he was pudgy and eric (the bass player) has always been big but that's really nothing relevant to surfing.

besides man what does being fat have anything to do with making good records?

MC, Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

what does being fat have anything to do with making good records?

it has *everything* to do with making good records

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

TODAY MARKS THE 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE DEATH OF BRADLEY NOWELL

Today I will bow my head in remembrance of him. Today I will bow my head in remembrance of him stumbling down Long Beach Blvd smacked out on heroin. Today I will remember Sublime for what they were: A 3rd rate Bad Brains. Today I will bow my head in remembrance...while taking a dump.

Matt H, Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

SUBLIME AND BAD BRAINS REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACHOTHER. BAD BRAINS MUSIC WAS MUCH MORE SINISTER. ILL SMOKE AN L FOR BRAD TODAY.

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

After reading this whole webposting dealio I'm actually really surprised. I didnt know there was this much disgusting and pointless hate and contempt for a band that (from my understanding) didnt have anything but love for everyone. When you get down to it (as has been said before) it's just music. I dont think Bradley or anyone in Sublime would want anyone wasting their time pointlessly bickering and not proving anything.

Personally I think that a lot of Bradley's lyrics are meaningful and powerful, and if you dont, then whatevers that's totally fine, you don't have to listen to them at ALL. I feel privelidged to be able to listen to sublime and take in all of the emotion and soul that Bradley put into every song. If all the nay-sayers on this thread dont get that, then I guess I kinda feel sorry that they dont get out of it what I do, but i dont think that is any reason to bash them back. I cant believe such hardcore Sublime fans say shit like "ned Raggett is a Fagget" and "You fuckin' fags only listen to whats on MTV and you shop at Hollister and have gay looking hair cuts". I mean I dont understand where all of this anger and offensiveness comes from, but I dont get any of that feeling from Sublime or Bradley.

In the words of Bradley himself "Good music is good music, and that should be enough for anybody." So why doesnt everyone just listen and let listen, so to speak, and just at LEAST stop all this stupid name calling, POINTLESS arguments, and short cheap shots like calling them a 3rd rate Bad Brains?

P.S. Although it may be HARD for some of you guys to believe, but I haven't smoked weed for 2 years now, and BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!! I still like sublime, so lets just stop that generalization shall we?

Now I'm Right Back..., Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

BRADS LYRICS WERE POWERFUL BECAUSE EVERY OTHER LINE IS STOLEN FROM A GREAT ARTIST!! (sERIOUSLY)

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

best song they ever did was "doin' time" and that's because of gershwin

gear (gear), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, ok well, first of all saying that every other line is "STOLEN" is definitely a grave exaggeration, and displays a gross misunderstanding of Sublime and reggae music culture. To say that they stole the lyrics would mean that he would listen to songs and maliciously use other people's lyrics just use them to make his songs sound better and more meaningful. However what often times happened was Bradley/Sublime were good friends with many of the bands they covered and got permission from the bands that they covered or sampled lyrics from. Therefore I dont believe stealing is an appropriate term. Also, often times in reggae culture, bands would use riffs, basslines, or lyrics from one another's songs in their own songs and this practice was not frowned upon or persecuted in any way. Using other people's riffs, baselines, or lyrics in your own song merely spreads good music to more people who might not have heard the good music otherwise. Furthermore, I dont know where you figure "EVERY OTHER LINE IS STOLEN" because they would usually simply either do covers or have songs with entirely their own lyrics that would sometimes have a few lyrics from other great songs.

To say the best song they ever did was "doin' time" and then take credit away from them for making it by acrediting ALL of the greatness of the song to gershwin is a slightly inconsequential argument. Where is the fact printed the "doin' time" is their best song? Is this your opinion? If it is your opinion, based on no real data, made simply from observing what you think might be true, then it is quite irrelevant. Furthermore to discount all of what Sublime did to create the song is underappreciating all that they actually did. Although Doin' Time is based off of Summertime by Gershwin from Porgy and Bess, the two songs are far from identical. The line "summertime and the living's easy" is the only line in common from the two songs. The genre for both songs are very different, and the tempos are both very different. So, to say that "doin' time" was made because of Gershwin is really pointless, I mean it's a cover for christ sake. However, it is really one of the more dissimilar covers of any that I have heard. By your standards, Save Ferris and Jimi Hendrix should both get no credit for their songs "Come on Eileen" and "All Along the Watchtower" respectively. A cover is a cover, and the song "Doin' Time" is a fantastic one, and its popularity and quality should not discount the musical prowess and quality of Sublime as a band. (sERIOUSLY)...

Now I'm Right Back..., Monday, 29 May 2006 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

actually i really like sublime, NIRB, though i should have phrased my post in a manner that suggested i didn't

omar little, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

I see no fault with this man singing in Sublime.

mkcaine, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Nowell was cremated and his ashes were distributed over the water of his favorite surf spot, Surfside.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

that's nice

stephen, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

All these thread revives, Jon, and you don't link to this story instead:

Rivas and a group of friends from Northern Los Angeles traveled to Orange County that day to visit the grave of Bradley Nowell, a guitarist for the popular band Sublime, who died of a heroin overdose at a San Francisco hotel in 1996.

Sublime was a popular 1990s era band that performed reggae, punk, ska, funk and hip hop music. Nowell fronted the band, which originated in Long Beach.

Later that evening, during the birthday gathering at the hotel, Rivas said “I think I saw God at the beach.”

Rothwell responded, according to witnessed, “I am the Devil… Don’t tell me about God.”

She then grabbed a small knife from her purse and stabbed Rivas in the neck while he stood on a balcony, severing the jugular.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

oh my :X

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

oh good Ned you're here. I wanted to let you know that your critical perspective had a bad blindspot right there in 90s radio rock...conflating Bradley Nowell with Fred Durst or Mark McGrath is a pretty grave error in judgement...Sublime certainly made a mistake that many bands before them made (confusing the power of 'black' musical genres with the machismo of some of their practitioners) but ther misogyny was prolley no worse than anything Led Zeppelin did (and far better than anything RHCP did).

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, I think.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

besides "breaking the girl" and "soul to squeeze," of course. will it save RHCP from the middling shame of being known as the most average band ever? Stay tuned!

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

D A. M

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

sorry that was a bit more priggish then I actually intended to be when i first conceived it.

point is: Mark McGrath and Fred Durst would both have to stand on a tall ladder to kiss Bradley Nowell's ass...Nowell not only could play an instument pretty well, but he actually had a bit of loose jazzy improvisational songwriting style (see STP), at least some of what he has to say about the opposite sex is more thoughtful and considered than "I did it all for the nookie."

Plus Sublime has done the best Grateful Dead cover in the last fifteen or twenty years.

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:49 (eleven years ago) link

was that still priggish?

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Hey, if Alice in Chains can do it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 March 2009 20:47 (ten years ago) link

that is so fuckt bro i cant belive their doin it w/o brad

the table is the table, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:27 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/tlg/2375099230.html

New Sublime Video - Extras Needed (Hollywood)

Date: 2011-05-11, 10:40AM PDT
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The Rock band Sublime is back with new front man Rome. We are shooting their first music video in 15 years in Hollywood on Sat, 5/14/11. $50.00, meals, credit. Please read the casting call below.

Sublime Extras:
Male and female roles. Must be sexy/attractive. Must be over 18 but look like they could be younger. Must have a gritty LA skate/punk vibe to them. Must come camera ready. Wardrobe is skate/punk attire. Think "Lords of Dogtown" or "Wussup Rockers".

whenever the vein was to throb (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 18:19 (eight years ago) link

Fuck, I'm not "sexy/attractive". Also don't look 18 or younger. Also don't have a "gritty LA skate/punk vibe". Also don't live near Hollywood. Also don't want to be in a Sublime video.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 18:50 (eight years ago) link

u should audition

zingstreet (latebloomer), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 19:05 (eight years ago) link

i could totally do it, but i think i'd rather just smoke a j and listen to "What I Got" on repeat

whenever the vein was to throb (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 20:08 (eight years ago) link

wussup rockers

Challops Never End (Pillbox), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 20:41 (eight years ago) link

santoria was just on the radio O_O

markers, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:18 (eight years ago) link

(as it is every day, multiple time a day)

markers, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:18 (eight years ago) link

i ain't got no crystal ball, y'all!

markers, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 22:19 (eight years ago) link

god sublime is probably the worst band ever, among my top 3-5 most hated

ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Thursday, 12 May 2011 02:31 (eight years ago) link

really? they still have a few songs I like, though I was def a dumbshit upthread w/ Ned...

ST 337 (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 12 May 2011 02:52 (eight years ago) link

They had a few decent songs, but they are a classic example of a band ruined by their boneheaded audience.

boneheaded music too iirc

like obviously there's super dumb shit like "date rape" but looking at a list of their songs just brings home the lols

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_63032/sublime/songs

ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:42 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

This band is supposed to suck, but I'm enjoying their self-titled album quite a bit! Fun and catchy! Haven't been able to get into 40 Ounces of Freedom yet though.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 March 2018 11:14 (one year ago) link

(Fuck you, mang!)
(I got a bone to pick)

(Don't sit, don't trip)
I'm cutting hits like Bert Susanka's got the shrimp dip
I get it, get it, get it, get it all the time
People wants to know the meaning of the word Sublime
It's anarchist, man, it's the shit you missed
We get the Minuteman loops and add a Peni twist
Cause we know you love the pit, but this is the shit
That you put in the box and say "Damn, it's a hit, boy!"
And at all the radios and the T.V. shows
Cause we don't kiss no ass or kick down free shows
What you get is the kind, no gang, no cess
When Yellow Lover's on the D-R-U-M-S

how's life, Thursday, 1 March 2018 11:36 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

This is one of the bands that I go back and forth between loving or hating.

It’s the nostalgia goggles talking... they appealed to most people in college/late high school in the late 90’s and in the right context they were a perfect soundtrack, also the mid to late 90’s had some of the worst popular rock music so I’d still take the party playing Sublime over the party playing shit like Live, Our Lady Peace, Silverchair, Candlebox, et al.

If I take that goggles off they are frat white dude funk music that fails most of the time.

If I’m in one of those rare “every music I hear sounds great” phases, then I appreciate the quirkiness in his guitar playing and his voice, how good the bass usually sounds and the wasted potential. Usually I think they’re a very bland, mediocre band that just became this sort of flagpole music for a certain type of people because the singer offed himself right in the middle of their most succesful album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 07:01 (eleven months ago) link

I got to know all of Sublime's hits through MIDI files first

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 12:20 (eleven months ago) link

By your standards, Save Ferris and Jimi Hendrix should both get no credit for their songs "Come on Eileen" and "All Along the Watchtower" respectively.

how's life, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 12:43 (eleven months ago) link

four months pass...

For some reason I felt the need to put on "What I Got" for my 8-year-old tonight. Now, at a distance, I don't care anymore who used to be into this band. This song is perfect, so light and yet so rich in thrilling detail. Did people think this was supposed to be ska? It doesn't sound anything like ska. It sounds like itself. It sounds like what you wanted to sound like when you fucked around with your shitty acoustic guitar. This is some eternity-level pop.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 9 February 2019 03:17 (six months ago) link

It's a good song, it makes me want to keep hustling.

brimstead, Saturday, 9 February 2019 07:35 (six months ago) link

easily in my top 200 all-time. I don't think I have another song that sounds quite like it. still gets played all the time. still sounds fresh every time I play it.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2019 11:27 (six months ago) link

Oh wow, is it safe to come above ground now and wear my 40 oz. tshirt openly once again, or is this some kind of elaborate sting operation?

enochroot, Sunday, 10 February 2019 02:30 (six months ago) link

Counterpoint: it's a shitty song.

And no it's not ska, no one says it is

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 10 February 2019 02:42 (six months ago) link

Today, SiriusXM’s Grateful Dead Channel was playing a Sublime cover of “Scarlet Begonias,” which felt like high crimes & treason.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Sunday, 10 February 2019 02:58 (six months ago) link

Love's what I got
Don't start a riot

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 10 February 2019 05:07 (six months ago) link

That's a cool cover, with the funky drummer loop xp

brimstead, Sunday, 10 February 2019 05:35 (six months ago) link


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