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Any news on Mr Waits appearing on British soil?

Chris Trew, Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

any news on him appearing anywhere?

tremendoidorangeblazer, Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

forget about it.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm seeing the Black Rider next month.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

his new album made an appearance on my hard drive last night

good show

dancefloor (+dancefloor), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

If you're in Sonoma County there's a chance you might see him in the record or health food store in Sebastopol or thereabouts.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

u seeing The Black Rider with Mary Margaret O'Hara in the cast adam?

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Sadly, I don't think she is appearing. :(

She is great.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link

He has a date in Berlin.

Chris Trew, Monday, 30 August 2004 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

Eight million Tom Waits threads, I know, but I might as well use this one for this info:

For his Atlanta stop, recorded at the city's historic Fox Theater on July 5, Waits delivered a stunning and epic two-and-a-half-hour performance, including songs he says he's never attempted outside of the studio before. Backing Waits is a five-piece group featuring Seth Ford-Young (upright bass), Patrick Warren (keyboards), Omar Torrez (guitars), Vincent Henry (woodwinds) and Casey Waits (drums and percussion). "They play with racecar precision and they are all true conjurers," Waits says. "They are all multi-instrumentalists and they polka like real men."

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Setlist:

"Lucinda / Ain't Going Down to the Well"

"Down in the Hole"

"Falling Down"

"Chocolate Jesus"

"All the World Is Green"

"Cemetery Polka"

"Cause of It All"

"Till the Money Runs Out"

"Such a Scream"

"November"

"Hold On"

"Black Market Baby"

"9th and Hennepin"

"Lie to Me"

"Lucky Day"

"On the Nickel"

"Lost in the Harbor"

"Innocent When You Dream"

"Hoist That Rag"

"Make It Rain"

"Dirt in the Ground"

"Get Behind the Mule"

"Hang Down Your Head"

"Jesus Gonna Be Here"

"Singapore"

ENCORE

"Eyeball Kid"

"Anywhere I Lay My Head"

Link near the top of the page to listen.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks Ned, listening now. this set is pretty similar to what i saw him play in Houston, plus a few songs i didn't hear -- Chocolate Jesus, Such a Scream, 9th and Hennepin, On the Nickel, Singapore (maybe a couple others) -- but overall very similar. Recording quality is excellent too!, this is really really good.

stephen, Saturday, 2 August 2008 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Live double CD at the end of November 2009:

Trailer: http://vimeo.com/6985723

8 free tracks: http://www.tomwaits.com/news/article/60/Free_Glitter_and_Doom_Live_Album_Preview/

Preorder: http://kingsroadmerch.com/tom-waits/

StanM, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://i37.tinypic.com/10pye5k.png

StanM, Saturday, 17 October 2009 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

zorn_bond.mp3, Monday, 16 August 2010 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

So I don't want to start yet another TW thread, but there's hardly been any discussion of Glitter & Doom yet. What did people think?

village idiot (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

I get a guilty conscience every time I see it in my record collection, as I've hardly played it since I bought it several months ago. I was put off a little by the boomy-ness of the sound at first. But I clearly owe it to him to listen more.

Duke, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

i listened to it a ton when it came out, and then i haven't played it since. it's good! i should dig it out again.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH_EwRjrldc

Cunga, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li342nNZnS1qdf09mo1_500.jpg
old guys play some sort of event

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

(ribot in the back there!)

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Ribot good enough that he gets to sit.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVVDrPEQZt4&feature=player_embedded

tylerw, Friday, 25 March 2011 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiJ2E0xGOv8

MaresNest, Friday, 25 March 2011 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...
one month passes...

never seen this before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCNDZY4vXPs&feature=player_embedded

also finally getting around to the brawlers box set thing. some amazing stuff! kind of frustrating that the info about when the tracks were recorded / who played on them is so vague, but oh well.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:43 (ten years ago) link

I'm not a huge fan but I really enjoyed the Boxers set, especially the third disc with the spoken word stuff. The poem about the boy waiting at a diner during a bus ride stopover is particularly great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 21 July 2011 00:39 (ten years ago) link

aw that's nirvana by bukowski. but yeah what a beaut. what a beaut.
there's some real gold on this that used to live on bootlegs, i think a long series called tales from the dimestore?, vols one to nine or something. almost wonder if they might theoretically hold a little more info about what's what. i like never let go, & lie to me a bunch.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 00:49 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Thanks to Chuck Tatum for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5X4N2exOsU&feature=player_embedded#!

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:23 (ten years ago) link

HAW!

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:50 (ten years ago) link

I like it

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:37 (ten years ago) link

was that actually taken down within the last 9 minutes?

Gukbe, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:40 (ten years ago) link

Woah! Yes, I guess it was!

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:43 (ten years ago) link

It sounded much like Tom Waits FWIW. Brash, honking, stompjng Tom Waits rather than sad Tom Waits. U know the drill

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:44 (ten years ago) link

anti ppl be lurking ilm

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:45 (ten years ago) link

I'm anti-ppl

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:46 (ten years ago) link

You guys are right about Nirvana upthread. It's been on every Christmas compilation I've made since I first heard it.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:47 (ten years ago) link

The poem about the boy waiting at a diner during a bus ride stopover is particularly great.
yeah! almost wish there was a whole album of this sort of thing. he has an amazing speaking voice, even when he's not hamming it up.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 02:40 (ten years ago) link

I made a compilation of many of his best spoken word pieces, stuff like "What's he building in there". A bit disjointed in feel but it captures that incredible side of his work. I wish I flat-out loved his singing but I just don't.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:44 (ten years ago) link

U know the drill

yeah it's funny how much this is exactly what you expect a new tom waits song is going to sound like, but, you know, nice also. spoken bits are v wolf.

sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:11 (ten years ago) link

am i totally reactionary if i prefer his pre-swordfishtrombones stuff?

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:29 (ten years ago) link

nope, otm.

Ludo, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:47 (ten years ago) link

it's like loving the complex human sprawl of a man but remembering the innocence of the child he was

sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:50 (ten years ago) link

thanks, i feel validated!

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 09:26 (ten years ago) link

you're all wrong.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 09:42 (ten years ago) link

Nah, I'm kidding - you can like what you like, you don't have to ask me!

There is something quite devastating and melancholy and genuine about a lot of early Waits. Albums like Small Change are gut-wrenchingly desperate while Heart Of Saturday Night is so wistful and starry-eyed. I have a lot of time for this era. He had a tendency to go from genuinely affecting to full-on hammy, but by reinventing himself in the early '80s he managed to hit a happy medium through pure theatre.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 09:46 (ten years ago) link

I love that cartoon "The Street Tom Waits Grew Up On" upthread. Who did that?

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 09:47 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

So, the new album is out. Ilxors?

dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:40 (ten years ago) link

All female covers album out Nov. 22

https://www.spin.com/2019/08/tom-waits-covers-album-phoebe-bridgers-aimee-mann/

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Saturday, 24 August 2019 15:55 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oncg1WJP8uU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:29 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

Man, they really fucked up "Hoist That Rag" on the remaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orxPuV06jgM

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:33 (one year ago) link

WTF? Are all the tracks remixed/rerecorded like that?

One of the best guitar performances of Marc Ribot's career, sure, why not turn it way down until its barely audible. What a baffling decision.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:42 (one year ago) link

Nothing else is that egregious but the original mix/master sounds better all the way around

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:46 (one year ago) link

i pulled up hoist that rag on spotify a couple of weeks ago because i was in the mood and i honestly thought it was a cover for a minute. so weird.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:48 (one year ago) link

whoo, that is a serious downgrade.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:02 (one year ago) link

Ah, better times for the Real Gone songs (but with Judah Bauer instead of Ribot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR5SHuJDlUQ

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 04:01 (one year ago) link

^^I love that version so much, incredible performance.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2020 09:23 (one year ago) link

Been thinking about Waits again lately. I have that Real Gone remaster on vinyl and it's quite jarring.

I put together an extensive career-spanning 'Best of' playlist here https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4FbY20jZVLSCXvfI4W1rvr?si=lMeXBmuATlWtgaNsbFfNww

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 14 August 2020 12:10 (one year ago) link

This is a timely revive for me. Honestly cant remember the last time I put any of the records on, its surely been over 10 years. But just in the last couple weeks he's randomly been on my mind again (apocalypse? nostalgia?) and I've been thinking its time to revisit

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 14 August 2020 12:46 (one year ago) link

it is kind of weird. Someone I know posted an interview with him a couple of days ago, and I got so excited I almost posted the same interview here, until I noticed it was maybe 20 years old. When this thread popped up again I for some reason figured it was someone else posting the same interview, like it had just been unearthed or something, but no, just a bunch of unrelated folks just thinking about Tom Waits.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:50 (one year ago) link

^^^^ this.

A "press conference" from 10 or 15 years ago kept appearing on my Twitter feed this week.

Duke, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:54 (one year ago) link

This is the one I saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojX3ef2Gfgc

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:59 (one year ago) link

LOL Josh I totally watched that within the last week as well! Looks like it was just uploaded in June, it must be making the rounds of peoples YouTube recommendations. Its a neat interview, its fun to see him in such a good mood.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:05 (one year ago) link

He should name his next album "Algorithm."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:16 (one year ago) link

I've suddenly found myself enjoying his 21st century records much more than when they came out. A major correction after Mule Variations, which felt like the Swordfishtrombone persona was tapped out.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:50 (one year ago) link

I went back to Bad As Me yesterday and it was better than I remember. I did enjoy it at the time but it didn't seem to have its own 'character' like most of his other albums, more a distillation of previous work. Still, it's a real solid hoot anyway

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:59 (one year ago) link

I'm sure he's fine, personally and financially, but I file Tom Waits near the top of the list of artists who right now probably wished they toured a bit more.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:15 (one year ago) link

I've heard that the early alcohol consumption and later theatrical distancing were there because of serious stage anxiety.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 14 August 2020 14:27 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psk3rmjonQA

Duke, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:58 (one year ago) link

That's what i saw a few days ago ^^

Duke, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:58 (one year ago) link

I will absent-mindedly find myself singing "God's Away On Business" while doing a mindless chore, it's like having a song stuck in my head for the last ~17 years.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 16:42 (one year ago) link

Xxxpost: it’s been a while since I heard “hoist that rag” and that remaster is so alien to me. Where those horns added in? I don’t remember them being there before unless they were way back in the mix. I like how those horn sound but without the guitar it’s missing something primal about it. It was the heart of the song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 August 2020 18:31 (one year ago) link

Is this more of a remix then? Are all Waits recent remasters like this where it’s more of a second version than a real remaster?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 August 2020 18:33 (one year ago) link

I think it's just Real Gone that sounds significantly different.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:11 (one year ago) link

From Waits' Bandcamp page:

Grammy nominated and featuring an entirely new mix that better fulfills the dynamic musical soundscape Waits/Brennan envisioned from the beginning. To accomplish this they returned to the multitrack session tapes and enhanced certain instruments or a vocal arrangement to create a sound that better represents the full bodied more sonically vibrant and jagged edges that Waits and Brennan were originally going for but lost.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:19 (one year ago) link

It's the Iggy Raw Power mix of Waits releases

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:29 (one year ago) link

damn

it sounds like a lot of elements in the mix are

real gone

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:32 (one year ago) link

The horns are definitely new.

Tom Waits: "Ima fix Hoist That Rag"

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:55 (one year ago) link

Ribot's playing on that reminds me of his Cuban band, he must have really been in that mode at the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0IPcqI3NH8

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:04 (one year ago) link

listening to the Real Gone remaster again, tbh if you didn't know what the OG "Hoist That Rag"sounded like there would be no issues. the album sounds great.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:09 (one year ago) link

I have the original mix (which I hated at the time FTR) on a hard drive and I'm comparing it to the new version (on Bandcamp). The horns are entirely new on "Hoist That Rag" (or excised from the mix at the time and restored later) and I think the increased Cuban-ness of it makes the new version a little better. I remember reading an interview at the time where Waits said he wanted to make the album really noisy and harsh to suit both his and the national mood, and he succeeded - it's the St. Anger of his catalog IMO, and I've never liked it. I'm gonna buy this updated version.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:21 (one year ago) link

I could totally see them having recorded the horns at the time and then stripping it down to make it super minimal and raw, and years later thinking 'hey those horns sound pretty sweet'.

TW is sounding great to me today. Also reminding me that his records are where I really fell for Ribot.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:33 (one year ago) link

Couldn’t they have kept that different version of Hoist That Rag as a bonus track or something at least? It’s fine, but I’d take the more minimal, gnarled up original version any day. Weird to completely replace it.

circa1916, Saturday, 15 August 2020 00:41 (one year ago) link

One of my favorite TW tracks tbh, annoyed he’s George Lucas-ing it.

circa1916, Saturday, 15 August 2020 00:43 (one year ago) link

Yeah same, his best track of the 2000s imho, really caught lightning in a bottle with it

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 15 August 2020 03:44 (one year ago) link

Insane to not at least leave the old mix up somehow. I've got it on my old iTunes archive drive but I never use that anymore.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 15 August 2020 03:56 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw3mFXOwRgw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 15 August 2020 04:00 (one year ago) link

I remember when Orphans came out, a bunch of those tracks i had already been familiar with for years due to filesharing & owning the various comps and sdtks, and the orphans versions of many of them had overdubs and new parts punched in, most of which didnt help the songs imo. Obviously some of it was just due to familiarity with the previous versions, but it was still weird to hear these songs, many of which had really fantastic spare arrangements and carefully-mixed soundworlds, all of a sudeen filled with a bunch of drums and banjos and harmonica, which sounded like they were all recorded in the same session. I remember being particularly annoyed at a bunch of Charlie Musselwhite blues harp soloing all over "Heigh Ho".

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 15 August 2020 15:47 (one year ago) link

I would never change a single thing about the OG Hoist That Rag and I wish he would put out an entire album that sounds like that.

epistantophus, Saturday, 15 August 2020 17:44 (one year ago) link

Always like the demo of Alice better than released version too

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 15 August 2020 20:19 (one year ago) link

Random thoughts after going back to a lot of TW:

-Both versions of Hoist That Rag are very good

-Bad As Me is also good, not bad

-I love his ballads more than I used to (although I always loved 'Green Grass' and 'Alice')

-Bone Machine is still sounds great, I love that high rasp voice he uses on say 'Jesus Gonna Be Here', wish he used that more

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:13 (one year ago) link

he has approximately 50 amazing ballads

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:14 (one year ago) link

Johnstown, Illinois is my favourite.

Maresn3st, Monday, 17 August 2020 17:37 (one year ago) link

Good Old World, Waltz

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 17 August 2020 17:39 (one year ago) link

Also fun to hear him write a song over the 'Do Whatcha Wanna' bassline ('Get Lost' on Bad As Me)

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 17 August 2020 17:55 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I wrote about Alice and Blood Money, and the experience of interviewing Waits (the story that got me in the door at The Wire), for Stereogum.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 6 May 2022 15:13 (one week ago) link

thanks i enjoyed that

Heez, Friday, 6 May 2022 15:35 (one week ago) link

good piece

corrs unplugged, Monday, 9 May 2022 06:47 (one week ago) link


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