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Their siltbreeze is no longer available but these couple of records are -- any gd?

c/b blah blah...

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Their finest work, yes.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"the lighthouse," while great, is NOT the ideal place to start. though the goof track on the second LP is pretty endearing.

"lindus" is excellent, though, probably the best thing they've done since "put the music in it's coffin." you pretty much can't go wrong with the shadow ring.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I second the vote of confidence for "Lindus"--dark and weird.

Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Lindus has a great solo walking on gravel number.

sexyDancer, Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

wz just listening to 'lindus' this morning and its weird but very self-conciously so, which makes it funny at times -- I like the tapes, high pitched keyboards and -- I think its gd this isn't overdone -- spoken word. It reminds me of early cabailare voltaire; somehow, if I had actually heard it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
New and apparently final album entitled Im Some Songs just out on Swill Radio. Chris from Fusetron says record of the year so far.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 13 May 2005 05:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i can't wait to hear it. hope somebody gets on reissuing the EPs and "city lights" before the decade is over.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 13 May 2005 06:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

can't wait to hear it.

gene-y, eps? you mean 7"s? if my burner worked i could scrounge up city lights for you.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 May 2005 06:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The song City Lights is beautiful.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


ian johnsssonn (crablangoon), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

gene-y, eps? you mean 7"s? if my burner worked i could scrounge up city lights for you.

yeah, the 7"s. i actually just got city lights off of slsk! only been waiting 10 years to hear that and it popped up about 30 seconds after michael yonkers' grimwood album.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
what speed - 33 or 45 - are ppl playing their copies of I'm Some Music? I can't tell which it sounds best at....

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

pretty sure it's 33. but i'm just going by the graham lambkin album, which was similarly chock full of ridiculously slowed down vocals.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

pretty sure it's 33. but i'm just going by the graham lambkin album on kye, which was similarly chock full of ridiculously slowed down vocals.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

he must be into robert davis jr.

Beta (abeta), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

there was a new shadow ring? dman.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

methinks it's 33. though it's a tricky one, it is.

msp: "new"

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
you know, this record is listenable either way.

Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
i got city lights the other day. it's a good record, though not as grebt as some of the later stuff. Very few electronics (if any?) Dense, jandekian and clanky.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 5 February 2006 23:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's the only one I've sold. I think they got better on Put the Music in its Coffin.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 6 February 2006 06:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they are band that i think kept getting better and better. i dunno if i'm some songs is as good as lindus, though. lindus is probably the peak.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 6 February 2006 07:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

45 RPM is correct

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 6 February 2006 16:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i need the corpus hermeticum cd, pls. thx.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 6 February 2006 17:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i have some live lp but i'll be damned if i can recollect what it's called. boot, natch.

Beta (abeta), Monday, 6 February 2006 18:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they were great live years ago. crazy harrypotterlookingmotherfuckers.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 6 February 2006 18:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that's prolly "Live in U.S.A." on Alpine Archive, andy. fairly legit boot from a few years back.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i can picture the "A" being made into an alpine mtn.

Beta (abeta), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

did i ever tell you about the time i saw shadow ring @ o’brien’s in allston... this would have been around... 1996 or 1997 or so? well, they were great and they left a lasting impression on me. i’ll always remember how their “encore” song consisted of mr. lambkin singing about the merch table; “buy... our record... cut... on a lathe... 5 whole dollars...” funny, funny stuff...

Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Friday, 5 October 2007 17:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

oh, what a band.

ian, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

graham's two solo lps are great too.

nerve_pylon, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

there are two LPs? I know there was a new CD. I really like "Poem" a lot, where a lot of people think it's boring or lazy or something.

ian, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

sorry, i used 'lp' generically--"Poem" (lp/vinyl-only i believe) and "Salmon Run" (cd).

nerve_pylon, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i didn't like "poem" but i love "salmon run"

hstencil, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink


ian, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I really like "Poem" a lot, where a lot of people think it's boring or lazy or something.

that's what i think. anyone want to buy a copy? played twice!

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 6 October 2007 05:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

anyone know whats up with this "life review 1993-2003" compilation? is it just a straight best-of? are we never going to get a straight reissue of city lights?

stuffy old songs about the buttocks (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

check it out

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah i know, i want like a real copy without ebay tax

stuffy old songs about the buttocks (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I guess that Shadow Ring reissues are on the way.
Didja see Graham Lambkin's Listed?
Graham Lambkin

For nearly two decades, Graham Lambkin has been redefining our concept of domestic disturbance. From his time in The Shadow Ring to his solo ventures (2003’s Poem for Voice and Tape and Salomon Run, from 2007) to his collaboration with Jason Lescalleet (2008’s The Breadwinner), he has continually transformed everyday atmospheres and the mundane into expressive sound art using tape manipulation techniques, synthesizers, chance operations, and the thick ambiance of domestic field recordings. Lambkin’s playfully surreal perspective is also present in his work as a visual artist. For those who missed The Shadow Ring the first time around, Lambkin’s own label, KYE, released Life Review (1993-2003) earlier this year, a retrospective of the group’s decade-long output. Future plans call for reissues of the group’s entire discography, another solo album and a second collaboration with Lescalleet.

1. ZNR - Barricade 3 (Isadora)
The debut ZNR LP has long remained one of my all-time faves. A collision of eccentric Satie-esque miniatures, strange, amateurish keyboard/synth explorations and the occasional song, delivered in a mixture of French and Spanish tongues. I always think of the creepy, over-ripe vocals on Seynete as one of the LP’s most memorable moments, but there are many. A genuine hybrid of weirdness and beauty, Barricade 3 has kept me entertained for the better part of 18 years.

2. Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice And Rats In The Loft (Transatlantic)
One of my favorite UK underground folk LPs. Three extended tracks that wildly roam through the darker variants of human psychosis, leaving its better known bedfellow, Comus’s First Utterance, in the shade. A big influence on my worldview circa Wax-Work Echoes, and it still does the business today.

3. Van der Graaf Generator - World Record (Charisma)
When it’s time for The Boys to come off the shelf, this is the one to pull. One anthem after another after another. And how about that side 2 then? Did VdGG ever cut a better side of music than "Meurglys III (The Songwriters Guild)" > "Wondering"? The latter so heroic it’s hard not to choke up on those opening chords. "Wondering" also has the hands down best ‘promo video’ of all time.

4. Tyrannosaurus Rex - Unicorn (Regal Zonophone)
In our house Marc’s the boss. From Toby Tyler to "Hot George", we do the lot, but this one’s Dads favorite. With a fuller sound than its predecessors, and that great, booming Spector-esque drum production, Marc’s unintelligible elfin warble never sounded more potent. Steve Took also scores highly for his colorful backdrop of animal impersonations and all around musical dexterity. Gone but not forgotten.

5. Lou Reed - The Bells (Arista)
Lou’s best. Queasy, deranged and confessional. Lou’s rarely this playful – parading a range of affected, varispeed voices, ad-hoc lyrics and recycled backing tapes. The towering presence of Don Cherry and Nils Lofgren doesn’t hurt either. This is a hangover in a sleeve. Just beautiful.

6. The Good Missionaries - Fire From Heaven (Vinyl Japan)
Alternative TV hits the bottom of the barrel and comes up smelling like a free festival. Hearing this record for the first time was like being hit in the face with a brick of hash. A total shambles, in one of the best WTF sleeves ever. I always like to supersize mine with the equally great "Vibing Up The Senile World" 7". What humanity needs now is a decent reissue of their elusive live cassette. Anyone have it?

7. Gilli Smyth - Mother (Charly)
The first solo flight from Mother Gong, and the one that reaches farthest into the blackness of space. A role-call of Gong luminaries smoke their way through two sides of cosmic whisperings, meditations on prostitution, creepy fairy tales and a voicemail from Father Christmas, framed brilliantly in Daevid Allen’s hazy tape-collage. Played this one a lot during my two-year tenure at Coombe House.

8. Joe McPhee & John Snyder - Pieces Of Light (Atavistic)
Back in 1993 one of the chief concerns of the then fledgling Shadow Ring was to emulate the electronic textures of John Snyder’s ARP. Armed only with Darren’s brother’s Casio we had our work cut out for us. I love McPhee’s ambition and scope on this LP, tackling everything from trumpet and fluegelhorn to modified nagoya harp, bird chimes, voice and beyond. Of interest – Joe McPhee and I now happily share the same branch of Stop & Shop.

9. Moniek Darge - Sounds Of Sacred Places (Igloo)
One of my favorite LPs of tape-based music. Moniek is better known for her work with the Logos Duo (along with her partner Godfried-Willem Raes) and is relatively under-documented as a solo artist. This LP has a beautiful, unhurried pace that slowly reveals its rich detail like a developing Polaroid. Every mixtape I’ve made over the last 13 years has featured a track from this LP.

10. Daniel Steven Crafts - Soap Opera Suit / Snake Oil Symphony (Lutra)
This record has always seemed very exotic to a non-TV owner such as myself. Crudely sampled dialog and music excerpts ripped from TV adverts and soap operas, lightly whipped into two side-long repeat-pattern brain-freeze epics. A great exercise in turning domestic banality into high-art banality.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 18 June 2009 16:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the link!

ian, Thursday, 18 June 2009 17:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

There was also a one-page feature of Graham in the June issue of Wire, Idk if it's available online

Ivan, Thursday, 18 June 2009 19:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

yay someone cooler than me likes that moniek darge LP, my life is complete.

liege & leafblower (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 19 June 2009 07:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Very educational Listed. Graham fuckin rules.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 19 June 2009 07:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice And Rats In The Loft

Had forgotten all about this one, looking forward to digging it out at the weekend now.

Enemy Insects (NickB), Friday, 19 June 2009 07:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

great list, thanks for the link - so sad to read that Adris "no longer makes music"

Ward Fowler, Friday, 19 June 2009 08:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Of interest – Joe McPhee and I now happily share the same branch of Stop & Shop."


ian, Friday, 19 June 2009 20:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Some great Lambkin self-portraits in the Wire's online extras...

rutgen cyb0rger (gnarly sceptre), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 16:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

does anyone know what song is playing at the end of "I Lap It Up"?

Ivan, Sunday, 6 September 2009 17:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

softly softly copy copy!

not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 25 July 2010 18:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

is that as gd, ian? might have to stroll down to volcanic tongue one lunchtime...

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 25 July 2010 18:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't know if it's /as good/ (whatever that means?) but it's certainly a nice recording! it does incorporate a lot of similar sounds--water, animals, weird tape manipulation, violin..

not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 25 July 2010 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

ya sold me!

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 25 July 2010 18:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Tim Goss performing Call Back the Giants material at Cafe Oto this week. Graham Lambkin doing some readings from Dumb Answer to Miracles as well. Hopefully playing something too.

And I gather there's a Call Back the Giants LP on the way. Hope it's not as pricey as the Kye 7"s have been.

ryugyong skype sex (gnarly sceptre), Monday, 2 August 2010 10:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Graham's got a book of recent drawings coming out soon too.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 2 August 2010 18:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Lambkin/Lescaleet duo playing at Issue Project Room in NYC tonight--who's going?
Also, do I need to show up at the space on time? I will need to leave work early, and perhaps take a cab.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 15 January 2011 18:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

no body?

not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 15 January 2011 20:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

dont suppose reissues will ever happen just have to stump up the big bucks but this is one band that is completely worthwhile so whatever happens you need to find a way

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 04:51 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

really interesting Graham Lambkin interview here, highlight has to be this bit

"I'd befriended this guy named Don Raleigh,” he recalls, “who was in this band called The Squirrel Nut Zippers. In the late 90s, they were huge for like an album, they got really big during this swing revival." At the time Graham was working in an arthouse cinema where Don's wife was volunteering.

"Don had aspirations in experimental film, even though they weren't really ever played out, but his wife put me in touch and we became friends for a little while. He had this huge house on Miami beach; they were a very wealthy couple. I'd go down there, play him things and he would be really enthusiastic about it. Then I moved to Poughkeepsie and there was this call from Fedex saying that you're expecting a delivery. This van showed up and offloaded this huge Kurzweil synthesizer, a Mac computer editing suite, all these top of the range mics, and they were all his. Their relationship had imploded, he'd split the States and just went off travelling, and he just gave it all to me."

still wackford after all these squeers (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 September 2018 10:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

ha, that's amazing! thanks for linking to the interview.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 September 2018 10:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

iirc there was even a collaboration between the two at one point in the late nineties

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 September 2018 12:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

wow, great story

so I guess those reissues that were planned nine years ago never happened, huh?

sleeve, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...


jon abbey, Thursday, 11 October 2018 23:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

No! Please spill it. I have no patience in regards to news about the shadow ring.

Yelploaf, Thursday, 11 October 2018 23:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

new Lambkin/Aine O'Dwyer double CD on Erstwhile in a few weeks.

jon abbey, Friday, 12 October 2018 00:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

sorry, just excited about that having just heard it for the first time, didn't mean to get people excited for no reason.

jon abbey, Friday, 12 October 2018 01:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

why the fuck has this stuff not been reissued? so annoying.

sleeve, Friday, 12 October 2018 01:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

I totally slept on this shit back in the day and honestly am still approaching it warily, I had the first couple of singles and sold them and never went back, but recently found a copy of the Remains Unchanged disc (which I assume is leftovers from the various eras) and was sucked in enough to want more

(ian to thread plz)

sleeve, Friday, 12 October 2018 01:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

Thanks John. I thought that might be the case after reading the Quietus interview. Will preorder when possible! I also thought/hoped that Salmon Run was getting a deluxe reissue.

Yelploaf, Friday, 12 October 2018 01:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

big announcement tomorrow, I expect a lot of love in my direction.

jon abbey, Sunday, 21 October 2018 18:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

! jon, you bloody tease

meaulnes, Monday, 22 October 2018 00:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

really - all gratitude for championing avant underworlds for my seventeen year old ears to discover some ten years ago, now.

meaulnes, Monday, 22 October 2018 00:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

"extremely proud and excited to announce a new imprint, ErstPast, documenting archival recordings with a connection to Erstwhile.

there will be two major projects coming on ErstPast in 2019, one will be:

The Shadow Ring-The Complete Recorded Work 1993-2003 (11 CD/DVD box set)"

jon abbey, Monday, 22 October 2018 12:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

well that is indeed amazing, and thank you, but I must ask - are there plans for separate release of the individual discs?

I mean, I will probably buy this anyway, the question is more out of idle curiosity.

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Monday, 22 October 2018 14:03 (seven months ago) Permalink

Will buy. What's on the DVD?!

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 22 October 2018 14:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

we are in the early stages still (but it’s moving fast), so I don’t have answers for either of those yet (although I think Graham knows exactly what he wants on the DVD).

jon abbey, Monday, 22 October 2018 15:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

thanks! bookmarked.

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

dang i will buy the hell out of that

adam, Monday, 22 October 2018 17:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

some back of the envelope calculations indicate that to purchase all of this out of print material would run you over $500 in the current marketplace

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

that's about what I made in a regrettable sell-off of my shadow ring collection 9 years ago.

Yelploaf, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

now 12 CDs/1 DVD.

jon abbey, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

have to say I expected a lot more excitement in this thread about that news, but maybe when it's out.

in the meantime, Graham's fantastic new double CD with Áine O'Dwye rthat I mentioned upthread is now out for preorder, shipping in a few weeks.

jon abbey, Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'm excited! A lot! So glad it will be on CD rather than vinyl! Just a bit nervous about what it will cost to purchase in the UK.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 28 October 2018 20:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

I think it's going to be pretty reasonably priced, especially direct from me, but we'll see what it actually costs to put together first.

jon abbey, Sunday, 28 October 2018 20:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

I’m excited, too, though curious what it will be. I hope there’s a whole world to discover. Any details as yet? If it’s any consolation, I just purchased the Graham and Aine double disc through erstwhile bandcamp.

Yelploaf, Sunday, 28 October 2018 23:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

not announcing a specific track list yet, but it will have not just all of the LP/CDs but the singles and compilation tracks too. there is not much previously unreleased (Remains Unchanged covered almost everything that was left) but there should be a bit plus 'released' material that almost no one has heard (hardcore fans can probably figure out what I mean by this and just leave it at that for now without followup questions, thanks).

more exciting IMO is that most/all of this material was not mastered or mastered poorly originally, and we will be doing our best from the original tapes. plus a big booklet...

and thanks for the Green Ways purchase!!

jon abbey, Monday, 29 October 2018 00:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

Klaus Canterbury & The Aces deluxe 180g reissue or bust

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 29 October 2018 00:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

my excitement is tempered cos of the exact opposite reasons that Ward Fowler IS excited - won't be on record - its not a surprise because I know Mr Lambkins indifference towards the format but I can't help but feel a little bummed

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Monday, 29 October 2018 03:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

I mean, it would be like 20 LPs or something, I can't even imagine what we'd have to sell it for or what shipping costs would be, etc.

jon abbey, Monday, 29 October 2018 06:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

fair enough - was hoping there might be some other version of this, stripped down 3-4 record set or maybe individual records considering the prices and availability the older ones go for - but great that its coming out at all, guess ill just have to think about modernising my listening habits and get into these new fangled 'CD' things people keep going on about

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Monday, 29 October 2018 08:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

As people are indicating above, I'm sure that nowadays it's an expensive proposition to acquire the original Shadow Ring albs, but things like I'm Some Songs have NEVER been issued on CD before - so that's why I'm excited.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 October 2018 12:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

Count me among those happy that this will be a CD set and not some exorbitantly expensive vinyl only thing

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 29 October 2018 13:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

hurrah for compact disc. looking forward to remasters.

meaulnes, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:29 (seven months ago) Permalink


xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 October 2018 23:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

shameless plug, but what better thread - i put out a record w/ penultimate press this month. graham lambkin helped it come to fruition, and lent handwriting for the artwork. this was a big deal for me given that i grew up listening to PP & Kye. very limited copies. hope you enjoy

meaulnes, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 13:20 (six months ago) Permalink

Oh wow, congratulations! Ordered it just now (I'd been meaning to order Timo van Luijk's new album too, so added that one as well) :)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 13:59 (six months ago) Permalink

oh ty very much!

meaulnes, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 20:18 (six months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Any news on the Erstwhile mega reissue project? I've had and sold most of the Shadow Ring discography in the past but would love to have the definitive collection.

Yelploaf, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 22:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

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