Earth: s/d, c/d?

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I remember hearing Earth 2 when it came out and but I decided against buying it because it didn't sit well with the short-attention span I had at the time.

Just picked up a used copy on a whim and damn, it's pretty awesome. "Like Gold and Faceted" has got to be their ultimate song, I can't imagine that they surpassed this half-hour-long epic drone. Should I bother with any of their other records?

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Monday, 16 August 2004 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Pentastar:In The Style Od Demons is my fave by them, but i might be the only one who feels that way. More stonerish, but i just love the vibe. I'm assuming it's a heroin vibe or something. I don't love heroin though. Just the vibe. Of the music. Not the vibe of junkies.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

yes but Earth 2 is best

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, well, like I said, I'm probably the onely one who feels that way. I'm more than willing to take a cold and lonely stand on the mountain top. oh yes i am.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link

"Of Demons" by the way. Not "Od Demons". you can probably find it for a quarter in the junk bin.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Hm, there was a used copy of Pentastar there too. Maybe I should go back for it?

Jesus, track 3 on headphones is pure fucking bliss. I love the cover too, it hints at the whole thing being a pisstake (which is refreshing if you're at all familiar with "doom" metal and it's tiresome iconography).

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

My favorite review of Earth 2 came courtesy of Everett True, some months after it was released. It ran something like "I meant to talk about this when it came out but it sent me into an amazing coma from which I have only just awoken. Bitchin!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link

ha, yeah it is a bit like Percocet for the ears.

just found this:
An Interview with Dylan Carlson of Earth...

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i haven't heard "pentastar", but i've got pretty much everything else. the first album, "extra-capsular extraction," has percussion by joe preston and relatively shorter tracks. slightly more straightforward doom rock compared to to "2", i like to think of it as their pop record. it's even got some kurt cobain action on it. the third album, "phase 3", is more a more sparse and minimalist thing (it's mostly just dylan carlson all by his lonesome and without many overdubs, if memory serves). more of a noise record overall, some of it wouldn't be out of place on a mego release. "sunn amps and smashed guitars live" is a concert recording. probably my least favorite earth record, almost sounds like a soundcheck at times and never reaches the heights (or, more appropriately, depths) of the sub pop stuff. the real reason to get this one would probably be the four bonus tracks that are outtakes or demos from the "extra-capsular" era. pretty impressive to me that each album has such a distinct character, considering the basic premise of just slowing down and stretching out metal riffs. all in all, good shit, classic.

j kirsch, Monday, 16 August 2004 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link

where the hell can i get a copy of 2?? mp3s aren't cutting it.

brock (brock), Monday, 16 August 2004 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link

brock >>>> http://www.tonevendor.com/item/9520

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Monday, 16 August 2004 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, i can verify that it was at their store as of last saturday as i thumbed past it in the E-misc. section of tonevendor.

i love their videos, someone needs to release that stuff on dvd.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 16 August 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Finally picked up Earth 2 after really getting into Sunn0)))'s two White records, and although it's great, I can't help but feel Sunn0))) have improved on the formula. Are the Earth tracks with Kurt Cobain really worth hearing?

Jason J, Monday, 16 August 2004 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link

although it's great, I can't help but feel Sunn0))) have improved on the formula.

is this the general consensus about Sunn0)))? not so sure about that myself. what I've heard of their albums doesn't go much further than being a tribute to that sound, which is what I thought Sunn0))) was essentially anyway.

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

scotty, you're not alone, penstar is my fave also. i often thought it was their pop album. it's been a while since i listened to it (and seeing as it's 11pm and the wife is watching What I Like About You, i figure now is not the time to put it on), but i remember one track being in some weird time sig but being so repetitive and looping and sludgy that it didn't feel at all akward.

JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

also, wasn't Boris supposed to be a tribute band of sorts? i got a copy of one of their cds, but it was mostly acoustic guitar, so i didn't hear it

JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

sunn is ok, but they've really started to move away from being a straight tribute. i prefer earth - the sound is less monotonous to my ears, and i like the production far more.

also, taking sides: SUNN 0))) vs. MOONN D)))!!!

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The guy from Sunn 0))) scammed my friend into a buying him a beer at the LSD-march show in NY last week and then split.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...
"living in the gleam of an unsheathed sword"

vahid (vahid), Friday, 11 February 2005 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link

...which i just got back from the record store with and haven't listened to yet.

there was another one listed in aquarius' update this last week.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 11 February 2005 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

haha look out. i got to about 25 minutes through the 2nd track and i had to turn it off (this happened about five minutes ago) ... it was making me think unhappy things.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 11 February 2005 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link

unhappy things?

i'm enjoying it. this stuff definitely reminds me of earth 3 mixed with a bit of pentastar, less monolithic and more likely to spin out into rock riffs or noodly little parts. thank god it doesn't sound like sunn 0))).

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 11 February 2005 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link

The long track from Earth 2 (forget the title) was on a magazine cassette of Sub Pop stuff (took up all of side 2). Played that one more than the other side...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 11 February 2005 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"also, wasn't Boris supposed to be a tribute band of sorts? i got a copy of one of their cds, but it was mostly acoustic guitar, so i didn't hear it"

Yes, from what I have read they were an Earth tribute band but quickly evolved into sth... uh... original. I love their last record (Feedbacker). It's one long track of a slowly growing rumble. They also worked with Haino and Merzbow.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Friday, 11 February 2005 09:55 (fourteen years ago) link

(slow growing rumble. god, i have a headache and can't think. )

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Friday, 11 February 2005 10:03 (fourteen years ago) link

The long track from Earth 2 (forget the title) was on a magazine cassette of Sub Pop stuff (took up all of side 2). Played that one more than the other side...

ahhhhh the heady days of lime lizard.

I saw sunn 0))) in glasgow a few weeks ago and found it interminably boring and pretty much a joke compared to the earth stuff I have heard (only Earth 2 and the track on Autechre's ATP cd)

Did anoyone see them at ATP a couple of years ago? I also hear they are working on new stuff at the moment.

hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 11 February 2005 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Earth failed to turn up at that ATP. I don't recall ever hearing the reason why.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 11 February 2005 10:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought this was about the Good Lookin' compilation series

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 11 February 2005 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

looks like they just played a show in olympia and they're recording for southern lord now. this pic is great:
http://www.thronesanddominions.com/images/earth_live_4.gif

eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

C

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 11 February 2005 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, from what I have read they were an Earth tribute band but quickly evolved into sth... uh... original.

Oh yeah? I always figured their name was a ref. to the Melvins track.

Feedbacker is indeed awesome. Have you heard Flood? Similar strcture but with less harshness.

original bgm, Friday, 11 February 2005 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know the Melvins reference, but I thought they were an Earth tribute band. I'm probably wrong. I've been reading too much bios lately.

Haven't heard Flood (yet).

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

dylan looks cleaned up and healthy in the recent pics i've seen, a great improvement over how he looked in the kurt & courtney movie at least (that shit was creepy).

eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

he didn't come out too well in that: "Kurt was rich. Why would he ever stop using heroin?"

Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Seattle Weekly article on new Earth by pdf!

donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I got to see Earth live a year and a half ago (they played between drone-rock gymnasts Comets On Fire and Kinski on the same bill. Most people didn't like them because Dylan wouldn't jump around or freakout all crazy like).. they were great... it was Dylan on guitar and Adrienne on drums. Dylan still manages to make people's guts vibrate even on guitar... it was a great set.

donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually all three bands were excellent that night, but Earth were fantastic in a completely different way. I like the Comets and the Kinskis, don't get me wrong.

donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Cool; I didn't even know that was up online. I had to make lots of phone calls to marshals in multiple states to get that info on Hunt.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

what is wire fraud, anyway?

Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

In this case, something involving getting funds through Western Union that you're not actually entitled to.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I've heard dozens(at least) of people paid $100 for Earth 2 on vinyl and other such and they never got them. Josh aint a popular man. Probably for his sake he better hope its the cops who catch him.

Go have a look at the SL and stonerrock.com forums.

Ranklin, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

aka the Craigslist fraud.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Good news. Josh Hunt was arrested this week.

http://forums.southernlord.com/viewtopic.php?t=8168&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Ranklin, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:21 (fourteen years ago) link

No need for
http://www.houstonscene.net/images/hunt.jpg anymore.

Ranklin, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Bootleggers Beware!
Joe Preston ... You're Next!

Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

My god, that poster looks like a well executed publicity photo for his "label"... It's the mention of Earth on the arrest warrant that just grabbed me.

Wow.

donut e- (donut), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, Legacy of Dissolution is just divine. Just forget who the "remixers" are.. seriously. Close your eyes and just guess who it is for each track. You'll be very surprised who remixed what... and then realize it just doesn't do any good to listen to a track with preconceptions of what the remixing artist(s) will do.

(unless the remixers *were* shuffled around randomly and this is just a big low-key subtle prank.)

donut e- (donut), Saturday, 2 July 2005 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Re-up. Fascinating Seattle Weekly piece, Phil.

ng, Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Has Josh's trial come up yet?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Earth sure is a great band...

sometimes.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

if you can find the live version of "engine of ruin" that came out on the Radio Earth EP, it's def worth a listen

ilxor, Saturday, 15 January 2011 17:43 (eight years ago) link

new disc this year, apparently.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 January 2011 17:45 (eight years ago) link

and European tour dates already announced, yay

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Saturday, 15 January 2011 18:59 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

p much have a hard time trying to figure what constitutes quality with drone. melodic drone? does that happen?

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:56 (eight years ago) link

^like with everything else: quality derives from total commitment. If any of the players involved falters in concentration for a second, your soul will "hear" it and you will know.

dolphins cavorting in a cathedral (staggerlee), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:46 (eight years ago) link

i am not v pleased with this tbh

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:04 (eight years ago) link

i mean i guess it adds depth to BEES but i didn't even really like BEES

i will only refer to that album as BEES

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:04 (eight years ago) link

i dig it, esp. hell's winter

am0n, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:26 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Having a hard time getting into this new one. I mean, sounds nice, but sounds like Earth doing Earth, and this is the first album of theirs I've felt that way about. Am I alone here?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 11 March 2011 04:11 (eight years ago) link

i think it's fantastic & then somg. listen for the cello. play loud. immerse yrself

thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Friday, 11 March 2011 05:06 (eight years ago) link

& then some* ugghhh

thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Friday, 11 March 2011 05:07 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

So, what's the verdict on II?

LaMonte, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:01 (seven years ago) link

I really like it, but it is a little less immediate than the first part even.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:04 (seven years ago) link

I agree that it's less immediate than the first part (which totally blew me away to be fair).

Saw Earth last week (for the first time) and hearing stuff from II live has improved my opinion of it a lot.

AnotherDeadHero, Monday, 12 March 2012 10:09 (seven years ago) link

I generally listen to this as background music, so it works well as that

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:48 (seven years ago) link

I like the second part more than the first.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:35 (seven years ago) link

i love it. all the cello is a spooky touch

Kenneth Toilethole (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:00 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

love Pt 2, and a bit surprised there's not more chatter on this one. full thoughts here. there was a Burning Ambulance interview too that i liked a lot, thanks Phil!

ilxor, Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:19 (seven years ago) link

It's a lovely album.

I saw them live last Saturday and was (slightly) disappointed. Much too quiet - barely to be heard above the chatter of my neighbours. Somehow the lack of volume drained their energy.

Duke, Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:42 (seven years ago) link

They performed a mix of new album tracks and older songs. Carlson was visibly healthier than I've seen him, very chatty etc.

Duke, Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:44 (seven years ago) link

i like II ok as background music but i don't feel it ever *goes* anywhere or develops in an interesting way. also agree that it was a bit too quiet.

i gave it a good chance too, listened while i walked around MOMA. just seemed kinda blah and i have a pretty good appetite for droney/boring/aimless/sloppy music. maybe i just wanted it to be louder.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:48 (seven years ago) link

I think it's harder to appreciate in 2012 - but if you frame it in the context of when it was released, and into what kind of world, it's a pretty substantial work.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 8 April 2012 22:19 (seven years ago) link

II still sounds great to me. that and extra-capsular extraction are all the earth i ever really need. agree that neither ever really "goes anywhere". they're entirely static, but in a good way. have always seen them as resembling meditation or even massage, prolonged baths in gorgeous, expansive, calorie-dense physical tone. i find it very easy to disengage from active listening and just sort of float around inside the sound, attuned but not attentive.

I'm hoping Earth will be the subjects of the cover story for the next Burning Ambulance print edition; John Fell Ryan from Excepter interviewed Dylan and Adrienne a month or so ago for that purpose. I figured he'd have the basis for an interesting conversation about long-form improv, being in a group with your SO (his wife is also in Excepter), stuff like that. Hoping to get the piece soon.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:39 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

listening to Hex. it demands to be listened to. not many albums have that simple purity of requirement. it is not entirely pleasurable but it is necessary, like childbirth

wince (imago), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 23:52 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

How do we feel about drcarlsonalbion? I like everything I've heard so far, but not more than Earth. Anybody check out the soundtrack to the German western (???), Gold? Looks very interesting...

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 00:13 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

So this drcarlsonalbion crowdfunded film + soundtrack...soundtrack is good and in the vein of the other solo drcarlsonalbion stuff: slow, buzzy guitar riffs played with remarkable restraint and a beautiful tone. The film is...kinda silly and not great? Anyone else see it?

Wimmels, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:38 (three years ago) link

it demands to be watched. it is not entirely pleasurable but it is necessary, like childbirth

oculus lump (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 04:07 (three years ago) link

came here to more or less repeat what I said three years ago. every time I listen to Hex it slows time. great album to pull out every odd summer or so

imago, Monday, 4 July 2016 17:10 (three years ago) link

Wrong thread? Hex? Are you talking about bark psychosis? That album does slow down time, indeed. It sucks the movement out of time. I am not sure but there are evenings where codename is the best album of all time. Even better than hex. But then in hindsight it does not hold up. It's such an album of the moment.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 9 July 2016 21:09 (three years ago) link

I presume he means the Earth record named 'Hex'? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex;_Or_Printing_in_the_Infernal_Method

(That Bark Psychosis album is great too, though.)

Birds in Hell, Sunday, 10 July 2016 00:24 (three years ago) link

lol I've not even heard that Bark Psychosis album in full. Codename Dustsucker is great though

imago, Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:49 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

New Dylan Carlson solo album next month

https://youtu.be/QxlaxXy7PbI

Dinsdale, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:50 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

New Earth album is out. Seems to be a Carlson/Davies duo affair, with no other contributors

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:56 (five months ago) link

First impressions are pretty great.

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:56 (five months ago) link

Really full sound. Multiple Carlson dubs

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:59 (five months ago) link

Power chord riffs

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:01 (five months ago) link

The Colour of Poison (sic: they use the British English spelling) is their most rock/"metal" piece in a long time

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:03 (five months ago) link

ah..... it's always good to see the first correct spelling of colour by a lolmerican of the day.

calzino, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:15 (five months ago) link

Given his obsession with English folklore perhaps unsurprising that he uses the British English spelling

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:31 (five months ago) link

sorry, I didn't mean that as shitty as it probably sounded!

calzino, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:41 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Thought I was kinda over this band but overheard most of the new one in a record store last week and really liked what I heard. Maybe I still like Earth after all.

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 6 July 2019 20:32 (four months ago) link

Yeah, the previous three albums didn't really click with me, but this new one is great

Duke, Saturday, 6 July 2019 20:57 (four months ago) link

Just me and Duke - no one else? The more I listen to the new one, the more I like it. Refreshing to hear the undiluted Earth formula again.

It occurs to me that DC is an easy guy to take for granted. I mean, he invented this sound whole cloth, and it's such a distinctive, singular sound. I've been disappointed by almost everything after Hex (which I still love), including the solo stuff that I kept compulsively buying for some reason, but this new one has definitely reignited my interest in the band.

Does anyone know if he's still exclusively playing the Tele? I assumed Dylan was a Tele guy all the way but some of the guitar tones on this new album sound very thick and humbucker-y to me.

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:50 (four months ago) link

i liked primitive and howling a lot, if the new one's even better hell yeah

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:53 (four months ago) link

and deadly*

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:54 (four months ago) link

New one is good yes

imago, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:55 (four months ago) link

wait it came out in may?!??! what have i been doing

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:55 (four months ago) link

Yeah I liked silent but deadly pretty well but have slept on this one thus far.

It didn't help that he nailed the aesthetic very early with the bees made honey and so the two angels albums were disappointing.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:59 (four months ago) link


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