RFI: Vocal jazz songform

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Is there a name for a kind of jazz song that seems to be based on a 12-bar blues but whose vocal line takes a lot of unexpected leaps and twists, almost like it was mimicking an improvised sax or trumpet line -- not necessarily scatting, though (although I think I've heard scatting in songs like this).

The only examples I know by name are "Oh Gee" (the version I know is Kevin Mahogany) Joni Mitchell's "Twisted." But I've heard it elsewhere, too. There was a song on the radio this morning about Charlie Parker that employed this form.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

That should be "Mahogany) AND Joni"

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Vocalese?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

(Vocalese is taking other instrumentalists melodies and solos and putting words to them. Especially really stupid words. See John Hendricks, Kurt Elling, Eddie Jefferson, etc.)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

...and Robert Wyatt!

|a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmm, maybe! I just did some research, and I think the "Charlie Parker song" I heard today was by Eddie Jefferson ("Yardbird Suite"). Jefferson also does a version of "Oh Gee," too.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, I love the iTunes store for doing research like this.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link

See also: King Pleasure. And Lambert, Hendrick, and Ross. ("Twisted" ain't actually Joni's--it's Annie Ross's.)

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, "Yardbird Suite" is definitely vocalese. The original tune is classic tho

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Ha, I just bought a 2CD Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross collection.

jaymc, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

That's the album with 3LPs on two CDs? That's really good. I just got a King Pleasure album called Golden Days. I was a little worried when I realized that the version of "Moody's Mood For Love" was a rerecord of the original hit, but the whole thing still sounds great. Also a prime candidate for the Wacky Liner Notes thread, having all this weird stuff about something called "Planetism."

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 August 2009 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

i was just listening to lambert, hendricks, and ross the other day. god, i love them. they are up there with jackie & roy and the hi-lo's in my unholy trinity of awesome 50's vocal groups.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 August 2009 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

I saw Annie Ross a few times earlier this year. She appears most Tuesdays at a place called the Metropolitan Room. Obviously she can't quite sing like a trumpet anymore, but she's still got it.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

I have two words for you: Blossom Dearie.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 August 2009 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Jon Hendricks and Kurt Elling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY7LHziBDcI&NR=1

Run-WmC (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 November 2009 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Which is not vocalese, but you should still click on it.

Bloggers Might Ride (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Did not know about this Eddie Jefferson vocalese version of Coleman Hawkins's version of "Body And Soul."

steenship HOOSiers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2009 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

Wikipedia page on the subject uses LH&R's "Twisted" as sample example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocalese

steenship HOOSiers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2009 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

One last thing while I have your attention: earlier this year I saw John Pizzarelli and his wife Jessica Molaskey do this crazy Jazz vs. Broadway "medley" where he sang some Jon Hendricks part which alternated with her answering him with a completely different song (by Sondheim), all of which added up to one super patter song that seemed to get faster and faster, His Girl Friday-style. It was amazing.

Welcome To The King Pleasure-dome (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 November 2009 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

OK, that would be "Cloudburst/Getting Married Today" and was released on Jessica Molaskey's Make Believe album.

Welcome To The King Pleasure-dome (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 November 2009 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

So apparently there is a new documentary about Annie Ross called No One But Me.

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 02:16 (eight years ago) link

Prior version of "Twisted" went missing, so here it is again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APS_3Q3mGlQ&feature=related

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 02:32 (eight years ago) link

WIth Count Basie! And a grinning Tony Bennett in the audience!

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 02:34 (eight years ago) link

five years pass...

Lambert, Hendricks & Ross - Airegin (Sonny Rollins)
Newport Jazz Festival 1960

Wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul54NWmwLxs

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 09:04 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Never knew the name for this type of singing. Possibly the one thing that grates on me more than musicals and gospel.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:12 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRiZG8B9rmY

what a shite post!

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:42 (five months ago) link

RIP Annie Ross.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:17 (five months ago) link

love Mark Murphy’s “Stolen Moments”

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:48 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vinwc5EBXzc

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:49 (five months ago) link

RIP Annie Ross.
Thought this was what the revive was going to be about.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:59 (five months ago) link

King Pleasure, The Source:Think I may still have this double-LP collection: first platter is the essential, starting with his Greatest Hit, "Moody's Mood For Love,"-singing his words to James Moody's instrumental version of "I'm In The Mood For Love," (vastly improved by JM and KP, also by Pleasure's guest,Betty Carter). Also got an Eddie Jefferson anth somewhere, and think he might be considered more legit or something? And maybe Pleasure lifted some of his choice of originals? But frankly Mr, Shankly, I much prefer KP's words and singing.
https://www.discogs.com/King-Pleasure-The-Source/master/579137

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:22 (five months ago) link

Oh well okay wiki sez "Moody's Mood" words written by Jefferson, and some prob think Pleasure's voice is too slick, but he still sounds better to me.

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:29 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERpyU7oiDUE

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:33 (five months ago) link

With Annie Ross:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGllWVcZAfg&list=PLnNUq-jBzQWhDJCqHeBLxeplezf0z1kbO&index=9&t=0s

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:36 (five months ago) link

Aw crap. Anyway, most of his best stuff is on the 'Tube.

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:37 (five months ago) link

Allan Harris and Kurt Elling two contemporary practitioners of vocalese. Harris even did an Eddie Jefferson tribute album.

King Pleasure seems to be considered kind of a weirdo maybe, but I like some of his stuff including his two Symphony Sid songs, “Jumpin’ With Symphony Sid,” which I believe was the vocalese or at least vocal version of Sid’s theme music, composed by Lester Young (and on some kind of split artist album with some Annie Ross material) and “The New Symphony Sid,” recently redone by Van Morrison. Eddie Jefferson seems a little more respectable and I like his stuff, but seem to recall Will Friedwald dismissing him for some reason.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:47 (five months ago) link

I saw James Moody once at the old Iridium and he played -and sang! - “Moody’s Mood For Love” which was great.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:48 (five months ago) link

The Van Morrison connection just came up, sort of, in Elvis Costello’s recent post about Annie on FB, about how he first came to know of her through a Georgie Fame cover. It’s was decades before I knew that “Yeh Yeh” (which EC’s wife Diana Krall did a duet with Georgie on a few years back) was a cover of the Jon Hendricks vocalese version of a Rodgers Grant composition.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:57 (five months ago) link

Co-composed with Pat Patrick of Sun Ra’s band.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:58 (five months ago) link

Which first appeared on Mongo Santamaría’s Watermelon Man album.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:01 (five months ago) link

Album has an exclamation point so Watermelon Man!

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:03 (five months ago) link

xxxpost: Oh yeah, Moody could be great---did time in Vegas pit orchs, but re-emerged and kicked my butt via radio concert in the 80s. In "The South's Gonna Do It Again," Charlie Daniels seems to be fiddling the main "Syphony Sid" riff (the part that Pleasure sings as "Jumpin' with my boy Sid in the City" and so on). The track with Annie Ross I tried tp play is "Don't Get Scared": "When you see dan-ger facing you, little man don't, get, scared" (like they're telling you to dwell on "Get, Scared!") "Parker's Mood" starts with open arms, sunrise sound, "Come with meee, if you wanna go, to Kan-sas City." But somehow he works his way around to , "Goin' to Kansas City, sorry but I can't take you," which also seems very Bird, if he bothered with words.
Other faves: "I'm Gone" and "Red Top."

dow, Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:05 (five months ago) link

Actually I had heard that Herbie Hancock was subbing for Rogers Grant in Mongo Santamaría’s band when the lightning struck and they first played “Watermelon Man” together but apparently Chick Corea had been the pianist in that band right before that happened. The more you know! Guess Rodgers was the piano player right before Chick.

http://jazzstation-oblogdearnaldodesouteiros.blogspot.com/2012/04/rip-rodgers-grant.html?m=1

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:08 (five months ago) link

Mongo's "Afro Blue" was a big gateway...
for scatting (with some blending in of words at times), Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, and Sheila Jordan are the best I've heard.

dow, Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:11 (five months ago) link

Love that tune. Just looked it up, first recorded version was with Cal Tjader’s band, with Paul Horn (!) playing the flute solo, Willie Bobo on drums or timbales, and some other guy other than Mongo taking the conga solo for some reason, Francisco Aguabella. Didn’t know/forgot that Oscar Brown later wrote the lyrics.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:18 (five months ago) link

Will Friedwald definitely does not like Eddie Jefferson. One of his blind spots, like Jackie and Roy, although lots of people don’t care too much for them I guess.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:46 (five months ago) link

Didn't know there were lyrics added--thread-relevant after all! Oscar Brown Jr. would be just the guy to do it.
Oh one other thing about Lambert Hendricks and Ross: on their trio=formative Sing A Song of Basie they got into/emerged via overdubbing, when that was not well-known (Sidney Bechet had done it, maybe Les Paul by then). I think they would add up to four tracks each---not seeing that exact figure here, but Friedwald makes the point, while describing the creative situation:
https://www.wnyc.org/story/great-jazz-and-pop-vocal-albums-lambert-hendricks-and-ross-sing-song-basie/ Maybe a career-making album, even though it elaborated quite a bit on what became their signature sound (at least live; I don't know if they ever took it this far in the studio again).

dow, Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:59 (five months ago) link

Adding lyrics to a melody not quite the same as vocalese. But yeah, thread needs all the help it can get.

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 02:58 (five months ago) link

Just picked up Dee dee bridgewater version of Afro Blue which was reissued by Mr Bongo a few weeks back.
Nice.

Also there's a recording by John Hendricks with an early version of the Grateful Dead on the compilation of their pre1st lp recordings that came with the Golden Road box.

Stevolende, Thursday, 23 July 2020 04:02 (five months ago) link

What?

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 04:20 (five months ago) link

Bob Weir:

”Jon’s mind and mouth are so fast that he’s able to get a lot of words into each measure with perfect enunciation. Just being in his presence made us think. Truckin’ has that same vocalese and vocal-harmony feel in places. I thought of Jon as we worked on Truckin’.”



https://www.jazzwax.com/2017/09/ad-hed.html

brimstead, Thursday, 23 July 2020 04:28 (five months ago) link

Don’t know how I feel about Jon Hendricks being blamed for “Truckin’”

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:45 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16VLBmF8kXc

Stevolende, Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:56 (five months ago) link

suddenly want to hear a LHR or maybe Andrews Sisters cover of “truckin”

brimstead, Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:19 (five months ago) link

Maybe, but only if done in a medley with "Bei Mir Bistu Shein."

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:51 (five months ago) link

Annie Ross, 1938

https://youtu.be/99OB6YeGjeU

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 02:58 (five months ago) link

sorry, her star turn is at 4:44

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 03:05 (five months ago) link

xxxxpost Speaking of Dee Dee B. and words added to instrumentals: dunno when Horace Sliver wrote lyrics of "Song For My Father"---maybe when he wrote the melody, but I didn't hear it sung 'til Andy Bey; my fave version is Bridgewater's, but worth hearing by whomever:

I wrote a song for my father in hopes it would give him a thrill after seeing Brazil.
My father’s music came through me but never got to me until
I went down to Brazil---
In Rio all day long, I heard my father’s song...

His father was Portuguese-Cape Verdean, born on a CV island.

dow, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:49 (five months ago) link

Thanks for the Dee Dee tip, Dow, really enjoy this “song for my father” performance of hers here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AapII8zmsdc

brimstead, Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:56 (five months ago) link

Oh your're welcome; yeah, she did a whole album of songs by and associated with Silver, lots of other sets worth checking out too--most recently, I think, a tribute to Nina Simone. Just now turned on the radio and heard most of a Radio Deluxe ep from 15 years ago: Annie Ross just happens to drop in on Jessica Molasky and John Pizzarelli, and hey Dad Bucky P. and a pianist are here too--they talk and listen to a couple of tracks from Annie's latest, I Want To Sing---more talking than singing, but tenacious, savoring the beat---also they listen to Joni Mitchell's version of "Twisted," and she tells how xpost Sing A Song of Basie came about, calling up Miles for him to listen to an early take ect., more stories,---quite a visit.
https://www.mixcloud.com/RadioDeluxe/aug-1-annie-ross-recalled/

dow, Sunday, 2 August 2020 04:09 (five months ago) link

Also, elements of "Song For My Father" appear in/are built on in Steely D.'s "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" and Stevie W.'s "Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing."

dow, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 16:59 (five months ago) link

From "Interlude," with lyrics credited here to Sarah Vaughn, later known as "A Night in Tunisia," words by Ella Fitzgerald? But wiki sez Raymond Laveen---anyway https://www.jazziz.com/a-short-history-of-a-night-in-tunisia-dizzy-gillespie-1942/ Striking, militant take from Tunisiatourism.info: https://www.tunisiatourism.info/en/articles/a-night-in-tunisia-histoire-dune-chanson I've long liked Chaka Khan's version, maybe I'll try to post it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZEMoXjl-Xg

dow, Thursday, 6 August 2020 18:07 (five months ago) link

From What Cha' Gonna Do for Me(1981), which I may still have somewhere. Liked it pretty well---remember it as blending her trademark sound w elements of jazz in various ways.
wiki: reminds me it haswith a guest appearance by Gillespie himself as well as what today would be called a 'sample' of Charlie Parker's legendary four bar alto break from his 1946 recording of the title. Khan's vocal interpretation also features lyrics written by the singer herself.[8]

dow, Thursday, 6 August 2020 18:14 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

"Boy, you suck. Just my luck. I'd rather get hit by a truck. Lose/My/Number lose. It." sings Allegra Levy on Lose My Number: Allegra Levy Sings John McNeil, where she adds words and sometimes acatting to the trumpeter's tunes. She's usually more subtle than that, I think---she could be a little louder sometimes, she makes me listen more, and never oversings. Got a tight, kinetic piano trio, and McNeil himself shows up sometimes, like on "C.J.," where the scatting first appears, and the bracing "Strictly Ballroom." "Dover Beach" is my fave headphones ballad, with unusually-well mic'd cymbals and drums (bass always sounds great), never obtrusive. Gonna try to link it from YouTube, c'mon ilx,do me right:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=allegra+levy+%2B+lose+my+number

dow, Monday, 14 September 2020 02:59 (four months ago) link

Oh well at least Firefox shows the playlist link, if not the link in image.

here's the front cover of CD (out Fri.), w personnel listed:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Nnge4usEL._SL1417_.jpg

dow, Monday, 14 September 2020 03:05 (four months ago) link

listened to the title track, good stuff

brimstead, Monday, 14 September 2020 03:33 (four months ago) link

Yeah, and forgot to mention that the album sometimes reminds me of Sheila Jordan and Steve Kuhn's albums, also that they and Steve Swallow performed the music he wrote for Robert Creeley's poems, on the album Home. Playground might be a better place to start w Kuhn-Jordan or Jordan-Kuhn projects overall, but think this is the most thread-relevant.
(Complete personnel:
Steve Swallow - electric bass
Sheila Jordan - voice
Steve Kuhn - piano
David Liebman - saxophones
Lyle Mays - synthesizer
Bob Moses - drums)

dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 00:23 (four months ago) link

And I was wondering about who sings Coltrane, when I saw this, on Rolling Jazz--if my first ever attempt to post a link from one thread to another doesn't work, just search on there (or YouTube) for John Coltrane Giant Steps Carnatic Scatting
Rolling Jazz Thread 2020

dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 00:47 (four months ago) link

I love Les Double Six's version of Naima. Big influence on Robert Wyatt, I think.

fetter, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 09:42 (four months ago) link

Will have to check Les Double Six, thanks for reminder.

Last night on John Pizzarelli's and Jessica Molasky's xpost Radio Deluxe, LH&R casually twisted me a new earhole once again, sending me toward rabbithole--now I'm wondering about these 4-albums-on-2-CDs sets, reissued on Avid, also others on Acrobat, Jasmine, Sony Canada, for that matter---do they sound good??
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=lambert+hendricks+and+ross&crid=2FOPQHGG1GODK&sprefix=lambert+h%2Caps%2C195&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_9

dow, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:08 (three months ago) link

I’ve never listened to that show but it sounds like I finally should. John’s website has them but it seems to be a week behind?

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:27 (three months ago) link

Oh but the show has its own site as well.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:36 (three months ago) link

There might be more that they've posted on Soundcloud---see the one I linked upthread.
B-but you didn't answer *my* question!

dow, Monday, 28 September 2020 02:26 (three months ago) link

Mixcloud, that is (the link is right).

dow, Monday, 28 September 2020 02:28 (three months ago) link

I must say I’ve been enjoying Dee Dee Bridgewater’s Horace Silver album a lot... but I think I love her album of Kurt Weill songs even more. Favorite new-to-me artist of the year!

brimstead, Monday, 28 September 2020 16:28 (three months ago) link

Great, glad you dig her. I like Ja'l Deux Amours too, from 2007, when she was living in France:
Dave Gelly of The Guardian stated, "'J'ai Deux Amours' was the number with which Josephine Baker captivated Paris in the early 1930s, and Dee Dee Bridgewater is her nearest equivalent today, a star both at home in the US and in her adopted country. Her singing is as expressive as ever, but what really caught my attention was the arrangements, a collaborative effort by the singer and her band. Harmonically sophisticated and at times fairly abstract, they quickly banish any idea of sentimental, Gallic wallow."
...Jason MacNeil of AllMusic commented, "These Parisian café tunes bring out the best in this stellar jazz singer, particularly on the opening title track. Accompanied by accordion, which introduces the song, Dee Dee Bridgewater takes you from Paris down to the French Riviera with a warm, slightly island sound as she sings en français. And she has no problem creating her soothing jazz pipes regardless of language."
...[1] The Buffalo News review stated, "Bridgewater still shows her skill at shaping a phrase, her ability to bring out the depths of every word. She sings in French with obvious relish. But I hope she doesn't forget her fans back home."[3]
She hasn't, but
also went further South and made Red Earth with Mali musicians.
More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%27ai_Deux_Amours

dow, Monday, 28 September 2020 16:53 (three months ago) link

Sounds rad, will check it out!

brimstead, Monday, 28 September 2020 16:55 (three months ago) link

There might be more that they've posted on Soundcloud---see the one I linked upthread.
B-but you didn't answer *my* question!

Love LH&R but haven’t listened to any or their albums properly (in a while) so you are on your own, sorry.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 13:24 (three months ago) link

Sing A Song Of Basie is phenomenal!!

brimstead, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:20 (three months ago) link

It’s sand, man!

brimstead, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:20 (three months ago) link

Yeah, that one is great.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:27 (three months ago) link

jaymc would something like amina claudine myers' african blues fit with style you were looking for? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk2fg2cE27I

H in Addis, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:08 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

So today on WBGO for Dave Brubeck’s centennial (which is actually today), Michael Bourne played a musical Brubeck wrote with his wife Iola, The Real Ambassadors, starring Louis Armstrong and featuring Lambert, Hendricks and Ross, which I was glad to hear, since I had read about but never listened to it. The musical was recorded in the studio first, but by the time it was performed live at the Monterey Jazz Festival Annie Ross was gone and had been replaced by Yolande Bavan. I went down a tiny rabbit hole and found this [u=https://www.jazzwax.com/2007/11/a-chat-with-yol.html]extremely interesting 3-part interview[/u] with Bavan, and am now listening to the live albums of that trio, including Live at Newport ‘63, featuring another centennial artist of this month, Clark Terry.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:37 (one month ago) link

Oh yeah, Clark Terry's "Mumbles" routine counts as vocalese or close enough. Had neglected the LH & Bavan era, thanks for tip.

dow, Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:59 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I enjoyed a few of those Mumbles routines today, "Mumbles" itself and this one called "Never."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7XtciQyhJA

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:10 (one month ago) link

LH & Bavan from the 1962 (not 1963) Newport Jazz Festival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgxfCsGTVhY

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:13 (one month ago) link

Thanks! Don't think I've ever heard that line-up before---what a position to be in, having to follow the tenure of starpowered Annie Ross. So I think I read that Dave Lambert stopped to help a stranded, maybe injured motorist and got struck himself, fatally. Hendricks, with his offspring or whomever, used to irritate me on radio shows in the 80s: his voice had gotten too dry and stiff for all that spotlight, and maybe it always was, other than brief solo breaks in the trio format. But good to hear more prime-of-life trio, thanks again.

dow, Monday, 7 December 2020 01:43 (one month ago) link

Yes, that’s what happened to Dave Lambert, unfortunately. Bavan tells a somewhat detailed version of the story in that interview I linked.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 December 2020 02:11 (one month ago) link

Yeah, didn't want details; I know and know of several people that's happened to, resulting in major injury at least (Andre Dubus got all tore up, lastingly). Reminds me also of a transcribed conversation between Jon Savage and JG Ballard: Savage mentions how motorway design and construction lead to psychopathic behavior, making it so easy to hit and be hit, thus hard not to run.

dow, Monday, 7 December 2020 02:32 (one month ago) link

In some areas, anyway.

dow, Monday, 7 December 2020 02:34 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Reviewer A.D. Amorosi in the spirit: "Having a fellow jazz singer and the author of the award-winning This Is Hip: The Life of Mark Murphy tackle the roots of bop vocalese and its firestarter...is sort of like asking one of the Apostles to take on the entire Bible...requires nothing less than a surgeon’s skills and a comedian’s ability to pace oneself to the punchline." Author Peter Jones is a jazz singer too? Is he good?

dow, Friday, 1 January 2021 19:27 (two weeks ago) link

No idea. Good question.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 January 2021 19:45 (two weeks ago) link


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