what was the last 'classic album' you got and were knocked out by?

It warms my heart that people are still melting their brains to On The Corner. I wish the complete sessions CD set were somehow obtainable for a non-insane price.

Yeah, seemed to be the one set that wasn't reissued in a book form and heavily reduced in price,. Think I was looking at way too high a price in like 2003, though maybe it was another similar point for me.
£70 odd.

Soundfiles can be found online though.

& there are some great live sets circulating from like 73-75 and the couple of years earlier. can't think how many bands he went through in the electric era.
I guess the live set closest to this at least officially is the iN Concert set with similar artwork. & less of that typewriter sound.

Yeah, seemed to be the one set that wasn't reissued in a book form and heavily reduced in price

What really bums me out is the live boxes - The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965 and The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 - which went out of print and never came back at all.

The On The Corner set was not very easy to find even when it was new

yeah we had one copy at our record store i think

https://thevinylfactory.com/news/miles-davis-ferrari-ebay/

anyone with a few more quid to spend might be interested in bidding for his yellow ferrari on e-bay.

> Thank you, Gerald. Started to think i wuz alone here in that opinion.

No way, if you google "On The Corner" and "krautrock" you'll find many other people making the same connection. In fact, you have to wonder if Miles heard Can first or the other way around, or if it was just parallel evolution. I would also posit that "In A Silent Way" reminds me of the pastoral goodness of Roedelius.

Also, anyone named after a Soft Boys song is a-ok in my book.

:)
And a somewhat arcane Soft Boys cut at that. Glad you noticed. I had it on a semi-legal disc called Raw Cuts alongside the trax from the Wading Thru a Ventilator e.p., which i ordered from Pier Platters (r.i.p and wuz hippest mail order EVER.) a decade or so back. Thanks for the tips n affirmation.

Yeah, I checked Discogs earlier for prices for the On the Corner set and I was like, hahaha, OH WOW

I bought mine when it was brand new and, even then in that heavy cast metal casing, it was like $120.

I still have my Plugged Nickel and Cellar Door sets as well, though those weren't nearly as expensive new. Just looked at them Discogs now and they're not outrageously expensive for eight and six disc box sets, respectively. Still too much for used copies, but not asinine like the On the Corner set.

I went into a crumbling old book shop a few years ago and they had a cabinet with "£3 for all vinyl" pushed up against the back. I nearly left, but found a copy of On The Corner, a couple of Shirley Collins albums, Nic Jones' Penguin Eggs and, uh, Live After Death.

Anyway, agree with everyone: this is the best of the best, and still not really like anything else I've heard.

I’m listening to On The corner again. On the title track, the way hi-hats and bass seem to have seperate minds (time signatures?) while keeping the same beat is pretty fascinating. The percussionists and drummers are doing interesting things all over this record like what sounds like lots of minibeats directly preceding or following actual beats. I would like to read more about this stuff.

& there are some great live sets circulating from like 73-75 and the couple of years earlier. can't think how many bands he went through in the electric era.
I guess the live set closest to this at least officially is the iN Concert set with similar artwork. & less of that typewriter sound.

― Stevolende

there's a mind-blowing "turnaroundphrase" from the shaboo inn in january 1974. maybe it's a bit of a typewriter sound but i like "china my china"!

I was looking up chart placings for Miles records vs. those of other "fusion" bands of the time (most/all of which were formed by his former sidemen). Between 1971 and 1976, Mahavishnu and Herbie each had four albums that hit the top 100 in the US. Return To Forever had three. And Miles had...zero. The closest he got was Live-Evil which hit #125 in 1971. On the Corner topped out at #156.

On The Corner is a solid candidate for albums which had their rep change 180 degrees. It was despised when it came out, seemingly. Didn't Getz slam it as 'worthless music' or something like that?

I'd like to read more about its inception or the way the perception of it changed, too. Anyone got any pointers?

I wrote a book about electric Miles that includes a whole chapter on On the Corner.

Ironically one of the charges against On the Corner by people like Stanley Crouch (I know...) was that Miles was "selling out." Well that didn't work I guess.

Although to put things in perspective, none of the albums by his second quintet in the '60s made the Billboard Top 200 at all.

Paul Tingen's book Miles Beyond is a deep dive (mostly) into that period: https://www.amazon.com/Miles-Beyond-Electric-Explorations-1967-1991/dp/0823083462

All this On the Corner talk inspired me to load up the box set this morning. I haven't heard this stuff in years. I remember being into it big time when the Legacy reissue first came out in the early 2000s. I don't think I actually understood it that much at that time. I mean, I still don't get it fully, but at least now I have more of a grip on what's actually happening in the music. Back when I first heard it, it just sounded like a sheet of rhythm without much color. Now I can hear it as a much more layered thing.

Still just completely alien music, though.

The funny thing is Miles really was aiming for a big pop crossover with On The Corner. Cocaine is a helluva drug.

"Black Satin" has a pretty great hook. Give that piece a slightly more straightforward mix and structure, you'd have something.

Yeah, it was Miles trying to do James Brown, if I remember it correctly.

Sly Stone.

I kind of get into Nils Petter Molvaer's "Khmer" which I somehow did not check out when it came out. The mix of the restrained, nordic ECM sound with bubbling electronics is pretty seamless.

He did a great album with Sly and Robbie last year or early this year called Nordub.

Thanks for sharing the link to your book, will read!

Speaking of "Black Satin" and Sly and Robbie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH32D8Ttf_o

creedence debut

It’s comp but James Brown Motherlode is killer

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Must have tee. Thanks for the heads up. Looks great!

Yeah just turned up as an FB ad.
LOOks like they do quite a few designs and range of colours. Haven't heard what end result is or how it washes but yeah, saw it and thought about the lp having just been talked about.

John Cale - Paris 1919 / Fear / Slow Dazzle / Helen Of Troy

What an amazing run of skewed 70s rock with unhinged vocals. Except when he lays down classics like "I Keep A Close Watch".

I really like the last 3 of those as the Island years compilation. Probably find that there's more updated versions of them though.
I picked up a lot of the 70s live stuff by various bands he had backing him which are pretty great.
Especially like him late in the decade. A great biting rock sound.

& Paris 1919 with some variation on Little feat as the backing band. Do love the title track at least.

Bought one of those OTC shirts. Thanks!

slightly off-thread point but. Re: John Cale i got a cd/dvd of an 80s show in Germany where he goes fucking apeshit, crawling around under the piano, screaming! Knocking things over. I'm guessing he was still doing lots of drugs still. Awesome set list, as well. Dont let anyone tell you 80s Cale sucks. He was on 🔥 man!!!

I ride with Cale almost entirely from 1970-1984, after which I cherry pick. I commend his recent efforts for keeping up with modern styles and techniques but it's not my jam.

I thought he was getting late extreme by about 84 when I really should have gone and seen him. I thought all the heavy drunken crawling around teh stage etc was late 70s and he had cut down his drinking in th e80s. Though just occuring to me that the South Bank Show has him looking a bit bloated and overweight and he was thinner by the edn of teh decade at the time of Dreams For drella so might coincide with him cleaning up.

But that late 70s twin guitar stuff is great. & Sabotage is just one of several similarly intense recordings.
Even Cowgirls get The Blues is pretty great too though not sure fi they ever remastered it. I have the Danceteria cd version, is there a later one?

More Miles
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& more
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does the Broadcast discography count?

i have a boot of his from '85 with ollie halsall on board, it kills, i don't know when he cleaned up

actually, listening to it again i'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's not clean here

Swamp Dogg - "Have you heard the story?" from '74 is rocking my world right now

i didn't realize willie nelson's '78 standards record would be so fucking good. i don't know if it's just that i'm old or if it really is that great.

It's a lovely album

All timer.

Bright Phoebus / Lal & Mike Waterson.

I'd rather given up on the idea of the great lost folk album years ago, having invested in a few that were lost for good reason, but this is something else.

White Noise - An Electric Storm

A friend just recently forwarded this record my way - not sure how I had never heard it before, but fuck me is it incredible.

Not sure if it fits the "classic record" billing though

A lot more so than most of the albums in this thread.

If you like the White Noise I found the United States of America lp sounded pretty similar. To the extent that I thought tracks from one were the other when they came on my Walkman.