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Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 26 July 2004 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i thought you meant the grime artist

lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the Wiley disc coming out in the states anytime soon?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

lukey: i meant the grime artist!!!

Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

who ate all the pies
who ate all the pies?
there goes wiley, there goes wiley, he ate alle the pies!

Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought perhaps Nate Wiley...

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Attention all Wiley fans: your favourite musician is a whiny bitch

http://www.rwdmag.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104720

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe dude should learn to read a contract.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe dude should learn to NOT SPEND 50K ON BEATS FOR A FUCKING GRIME ALBUM

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:02 (eleven years ago) link

Christ, you could buy every beat that's ever appeared on Channel U over the past six years for 50k

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:02 (eleven years ago) link

but its like getting sacked 4 times from a job
and then saying the 4th time wasnt ur fault
by this time no1 u tell cares u just look and sound like a No hope.

and to be onist every labels tryed to Boy you.
If you had any sense in your head you would of NEGOTIATED
a deal to suit you BEFORE SIGHNING..... knowing what happened
the last 3 TIMES......and learning from that and using it in this deal

but no.......

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Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

Presumably he's paid for non-grime, Calvin Harris type beats.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

Wait a minute. You DIDN'T know that your videos and production come out of your advance??!!? And you've been in the music game for how long? You think they give you £200K just to sh!t and breathe? You're career has become a public joke that you keep fuelling.

Somewhere in the world Dizzee Rascal is pissing himself laughing at you.
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Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

"...Make no mistake, the MCs on this compilation ("Run The Road" on 679 Recordings) - Kano, D Double E, Riko, ..., Dizzee, Wiley - are our equivalents of Rakim, Chuck D, Ice Cube, Nas, Jay-Z..."

Is this too long for a username?

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

that's a simon reynolds quote innit

Dave from Norwich, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

That man really should never be allowed to listen to rap music.

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

"Next thing I'm selling my Rolex"

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

Steve Albini of Grime

Wiley has posted a lot of stupid shit on that message board in the past ("i'm quitting grime/make grime every day" etc) - but this is really embarrassing for him!

tpp, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

let me walk people im a music boy im not tryna be famous anymore i jus want music money

lol

tpp, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

Testing... mic check.

Somewhere in the world Dizzee Rascal is pissing himself laughing at yo (Matt DC), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Dammit.

Somewhere in the world Dizzee Rascal is pissing himself laughing @ you (Matt DC), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

Seriously, though, ILM's come to something when fucking Elbow get a better press here than Wiley does.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

Wileys got the painters in and she knows it.

jim, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Im Saying This To Every1 Who Likes Cash In My Pocket There Is A Problem Since I Done The Track Some Idiot From The Label Decided He Would Take A Grime Lyric From Another Tune And Slow It Right Down And Try To Fit It In The Tune It Sounds So Shit Ive Jus Heard It Now Im Goin On Every Radio Station To Talk About That Is A Disrespect To Me And My Musical Style We Dont Do Shit Like This It Sounds Rediculous And Im Very Angry That Some1 Has Done This Even If I Go High In The Charts I Will Wipe This Shit Version Of Cash In My Pocket Out Of My Mind And See You In The New Year When I Will Be Back With My Own Creative Control Instead Of Ben Cook Or John Woolf Or Any Prick Who Does Silly Things Like Adding A 145 Bpm Lyric Down To A Band Played Tune With A Much Slower Tempo I Cant Even Listen To It I Will Never Accept This Ever John Woolf You Are The Worse Manager On Earth Nick Detnon Would Piss On You I Advise Artists To Stay Away From John Woolf He Does Shit That You Would Want To Kill Him For Believe Me I Want To Kill Him Amongst Others If He Was Infront Of Me Now I Would Empty A Whole Clip At Him For Doin This Stupid Cash In My Pocket 3rd Verse Mockery Please God Save Me Realtalk I Said It

lobsters on the pier (tpp), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Now You See What Type Of Idiots This Label Are Making Me Sound Incapable Please Forget This Tune As Quick As Poss If You Can I Cant Hear That Version With A Fake 3rd Verse And I Will Never As Long As Im Alive Perform This Song With That 3rd Verse Init Trust Me Ahhh If You Knew How Mad I Am Right Now Watch The Video For The 1st Time And Its That Shit Version Of The Tune John Woolf I Am Gonna Get You I Promise 1 Day You
Will Pay For This You Tramp I Hate You

lobsters on the pier (tpp), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Im Too Good On The Mic For Some1 To Do That To Me Bruv Too Good That Sloppy Sounding Refix Is Killing Me I Jus Wanna Die Now Im Goin Mad You Know What Im Goin On Holiday And When That Tunes Done Its Course I Will Come Back Dont Even Talk To Me About That Tune Ever I Will Smash Up Ur Car If You Even Say To Me Wiley I Love That Cash In My Pocket Tune John Woolf Is ................................

lobsters on the pier (tpp), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

ESKIKI✧✧✧@HOTM✧✧✧.C✧.U✧ IM READY TO DO INTERVIEWS FROM NOW TILL THE END OF MY CAREER IM READY ITS TIME TO TALK COS I AM GONNA BE A BIG ARTIST IN ENGLAND BUT I NEED TO WAIT TILL JAN 1ST THEN IM GONNA DO MY THING EVERYBODY MUSICALLY FEAR ME NOW ITS ON FOR ANY ARTIST FROM MY SCENE YOUR SCENE ANY SCENE SKEPTA ANY1 BRUV MY MUSIC WILL BE BETTER THAN ANY CHALLENGER WATCH AND DONT THINK I DONT MEAN GRIME EITHER EVERYBOY IS DEAD EVERYBODY

lobsters on the pier (tpp), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

lol at the fucking awful video for this as well

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

forget that i can tell you bout grease im not fake neither is ghetts life is life innit the badder man for every1 on anyday could be any age any size its life

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

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go on rinse pyro axe anything for gods sake jsut go on radio and stop being a lethal b!

Oh snap.

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

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lobsters on the pier (tpp), Friday, 21 November 2008 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

lol at the fucking awful video for this as well

can't be worse than wearing my rolex's

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Friday, 21 November 2008 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

You say that, but...

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 21 November 2008 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

and indeed it isn't (v impressive single shot at least). don't get why wiley doesn't wanna be in his own videos tho (maybe they wouldn't let him in the building).

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Friday, 21 November 2008 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

song is terrible tho yes

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Friday, 21 November 2008 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

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The tit man from the hilarious 'Loudon Wainwright III' song (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 November 2008 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

wiley, wtf

Manchego Bay (G00blar), Friday, 28 November 2008 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

i swear on my life i feel so powerfull musically about 16 hours ago from web

na serious im peaking really about 14 hours ago from web

i got new crew a sick movement trust me we are gonna fly 12 minutes ago from web

watch how quick it takes to make this new click fly i am a lord of creating crews and movements god knows 11 minutes ago from web

david cam'ron (tpp), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 14:12 (ten years ago) link

*yoink*

i swear on my life i feel so powerfull (musically) (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 14:25 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

twitter was invented just for wiley, i swear down.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:41 (ten years ago) link

http://twitter.com/bleachjeans

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:42 (ten years ago) link

is every1 asleeep
about 12 hours ago via web

Last tweet of the day goodnight
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter

@DeeGully stop trying to get me for interview fuck u lot I will interview you
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to DeeGully

@DeeGully don't piss me off
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to DeeGully

@DeeGully what river not the thames
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to DeeGully

@CD_Case cuddle up to your auntie linda
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to CD_Case

@LexD44 he never beat me he lost u nutter
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to LexD44

@blooodline dizzee hates u all what has he ever done for any1
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to blooodline

@blooodline I'm the best u love me
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to blooodline

@Troopzs u mums a keyboard thug
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to Troopzs

I will never delete this ac ever hope ur parents have got aids goodnight
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:44 (ten years ago) link

@SlazerMC and who are you what have u done for england
about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to SlazerMC

Some people type and work towards being what they are typing
about 14 hours ago via UberTwitter

Call me a keyboard warrior and I will shoot up ur mums house to show man I aint
about 15 hours ago via UberTwitter

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:48 (ten years ago) link

No disrespect to handicap people
about 19 hours ago via UberTwitter

@KingMagnarm: RT @bleachjeans @Limit_Lc if ur mum was handicap I would punch her in the face right now tho

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:48 (ten years ago) link

Don't dis me I will put ya granny in an electric and pull the lever I'm a dark person
about 19 hours ago via UberTwitter

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:48 (ten years ago) link

@kinghypz I am a mason shut up
about 20 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to kinghypz

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:49 (ten years ago) link

Any chance of a poll of the best batshit Wiley Twitter threats?

The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:50 (ten years ago) link

Why do we want people to know what we are doin all day we don't really twitter was designed by police and freemasons
about 21 hours ago via UberTwitter

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:50 (ten years ago) link

i just boggled at "wiley featuring emeli sandé, j2k and french montana" too much to really hear the song

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 March 2013 13:37 (seven years ago) link

another unguided wiley album drifting listlessly by

you always wonder what his and dizzee's careers would have been like if it was wiley that had cage managing/producing/father figuring

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:15 (seven years ago) link

How man of them are there now?

you always wonder what his and dizzee's careers would have been like if it was wiley that had cage managing/producing/father figuring

Even assuming he had the choice, Cage backed the right horse. It's not even that Wiley is mental to the point of being basically uncontrollable, he just doesn't have Dizzee's charm, either on record or off. There's just something about their voices as well, Dizzee can convey so much more. It's not that Wiley hasn't made great records but he'd never hit Dizzee-style beloved pop figure status.

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:28 (seven years ago) link

yeah sure it's not a taking sides, i would never dispute dizzee being a rare talent with the edge over his generation, i'm just saying wiley's work has always cried out for an understanding editor when it comes to making that next step

besides it might not be the same charm as dizzee's but he still has more charm than most. much more in fact and certainly enough to be a pop star with

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:47 (seven years ago) link

the other side of the question is for all dizzee's outrageous talent would he have ever got this far just by himself the same way his peers have had to? i don't think so

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:49 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I mean put him next to I dunno Wretch 32 or someone and the difference is obvious but I'm not sure the man exists who could do that. Crucially none of these other guys see themselves as svengali/mentor figures themselves.

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:52 (seven years ago) link

it's not even that cage might have done so much work for dizzee but that the lines of success are so fine that a wise word here a nudge there really can make all the crucial difference

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:53 (seven years ago) link

http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/dizzee-rascal-uncaged/049422

"What Dizzee means is: 'It allows a wider remit of artistic expression,'" he jokingly, forcefully clarifies. He looks at me suspiciously: "Who are we talking to here?"

Ten months into this job, and I have never witnessed the words 'Music Week' cause anywhere near such elation. Cage openly guffaws: "Ha! Say what the fuck you like!"

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:56 (seven years ago) link

Someone needs to get their act together and just put out that 2CD career retrospective because it'd still be better than the equivalent comp from pretty much anyone else.

A loose-fit turquoise Ralph Lauren shirt brushing over tree trunk torso and beefy belly, he's a boisterous bruiser with a box-clever tongue; a bantersaurus with a Pulitzer in pinpoint put-downs and prickly piss-takes.

Looking forward to his eponymous strip in Viz sometime soon.

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:58 (seven years ago) link

I'm going to make the hits, go on TV and make the syncs and that shit. But I want to be able to say shit, cunt, bollocks and all that - talk about obscene stuff. That's what albums are for."

This has nothing to do with what we're talking about I just want to preserve it for when I inevitably need to requote it in the future.

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:02 (seven years ago) link

wiley IS a fairly beloved pop figure though - obv not to the extent of dizzee, but tbh i'm not sure how much wiley's persona at its best would translate to mass mass mass stadium appeal anyway. he's not a rabble-rouser or party-starter, he's a slightly grumpy loose cannon. his antics haven't sabotaged his career to anywhere near the extent they should have, and have probably only enhanced his legend (to people who care).

the missed opportunity was someone with wiley's talent taking on the mentoring role to other artists.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:03 (seven years ago) link

I think it's fair to say that a lack of a decent editor (even on a line-by-line basis) has stopped him from ever making a great album. Even the decent ones are met with general indifference.

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:07 (seven years ago) link

Tim Finney on the new album: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17772-wiley-the-ascent/

Correctly identifying the Kid-D produced tracks as MVPs, they are gorgeous. 'Humble Pie' ended up as one of my favourite songs of last year. A couple of collabs that didn't make it on the album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptTD37klofk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knkt8ZptBpE

Mercer Finn, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:50 (seven years ago) link

tim otm about how half-hearted the EDM choruses are, the tulisa one sounds especially unfinished and grafted clumsily in

surprised at the tracks tim identifies as standouts, they seemed much of a boring muchness with the rest to me - the aggressive posse cuts are the best/most enjoyable but also, yes, what's the point now

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Haha, I think "enjoyable but also, yes, what's the point now" is perhaps a broader criticism w/r/t Wiley.

It seemed a bit self-indulgent else I would have explained that my enjoyment of "Humble Pie" and "Broken Thoughts" (I assume they're the "standouts" you're referring to) is basically a derivation of the time I first played a handmade tape sent to me by Luka containing that Dizzee "I like girls, I like sex" tune, pretty much exactly ten years ago now.

Tim F, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:17 (seven years ago) link

nostalgia :(

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:21 (seven years ago) link

oh is "humble Pie" the ~reflective~ one? both dizzee and wiley perfected that track with the closers off their respective debuts

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:22 (seven years ago) link

"Broken Thoughts" is better IMO. Straight lost girlfriend vibes.

Tim F, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:24 (seven years ago) link

ha, "prissy" has long been my go-to adjective for wiley cat

The Reverend, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:25 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

lol

Blandford Forum, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:15 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

new album's actually good! despite gudda gudda of all people popping up

"no skylarking" and "badman", all thumbs up

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:08 (five years ago) link

It is pretty good, but there's still the nagging feeling he isn't bringing his A-game here - I wonder if he knows what that sounds like at this stage. Gudda Gudda verse is so unwelcome.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:57 (five years ago) link

has wiley ever managed to stretch tier one wiley over the course of an lp

milord z (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:59 (five years ago) link

treddin' on thin ice and grime wave are as close as it gets probably

success of a wiley album tends to depend on how exciting the beats are, i think - he remains fairly constant

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 09:42 (five years ago) link

The gap between tier one Wiley and the rest of his work is pronounced though, his best stuff is always fast and pacey and usually grimey, and his limitations as an MC are usually exposed when momentum is withdrawn.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 15:00 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

http://ninjatune.net/release/wiley-and-zomby/step-2001/

wiley and zomby collabo. more interesting on paper tbh. its actually a bit boring.

StillAdvance, Friday, 28 August 2015 11:49 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Grim

The celebrity Wiley not only comparing Jewish people to the KKK, but also getting a conspiracy theory in there too.

This is unabashed antisemitism.

Antisemitism is everywhere. It must be called out and eradicated.

Disgusting. pic.twitter.com/mKeB5EDUw3

— alf🌹 (@alfiewm_) July 24, 2020

nashwan, Friday, 24 July 2020 11:20 (three weeks ago) link

ffs

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 July 2020 11:30 (three weeks ago) link

What a moron

paolo, Friday, 24 July 2020 11:59 (three weeks ago) link

fucking hell, is he ever going to stop? and plenty of approving replies from other antisemites.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 July 2020 16:31 (three weeks ago) link

As if the antisemitic rhetoric wasn't bad enough…

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jul/24/wiley-accused-of-antisemitism-after-likening-jews-to-ku-klux-klan

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

he spent the whole day posting antisemitic shit on Twitter, in the end he even moved on to holocaust denial.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 July 2020 22:54 (three weeks ago) link

God, what a dickhead.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Saturday, 25 July 2020 13:32 (three weeks ago) link

Is this remotely typical for Wiley?

djh, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:58 (three weeks ago) link

Member of the Order of the British Empire, eh?

pomenitul, Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:03 (three weeks ago) link

Indeed, what a genius.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:11 (three weeks ago) link

total shitshow on twitter- a few people defending him saying the reaction just proves his point, a whole army of white people giving totally unrelated black people shit in the name of antiracism, every prominent black grime related artist being misidentified as Wiley “for some reason”, people trying to make it all about BLM/The Left/Israel/etc

the state is bad (Left), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:07 (three weeks ago) link

As they say on r/AmItheAsshole, ESH (Everyone Sucks Here).

pomenitul, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:10 (three weeks ago) link

what a wankstain, forgot he was a royal arselicker. pathetic man.

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:20 (three weeks ago) link

total shitshow on twitter

Get away.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:24 (three weeks ago) link

how many antisemites and paedos have been given royal orders by now anyway

the state is bad (Left), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

has Stormzy commented?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:35 (three weeks ago) link

Stormzy hasn’t been on social media for months now.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:20 (three weeks ago) link

He's apologised for making 'comments that were looked at as anti-Semitic'.

Might have well said that he's sorry people were offended but better than no apology at all I guess. Interesting that he only said sorry after being banned from Twitter.

paolo, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:38 (two weeks ago) link

You can’t make this up... Guardian uses a photo of Kano in an article on racism when referencing Wiley 💀 pic.twitter.com/cgwhD0YwYU

— aruba ▼ red (@ArubaRed) July 29, 2020

paolo, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:43 (two weeks ago) link

apparently same issue as with denise, incorrectly labelled library pics.
but still ..

mark e, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:42 (two weeks ago) link

^ Apparently NME, Daily Mail, Guardian and another (Express, I think) ran wrong pictures of Denise. Certainly, the Guardian picked this up fairly quickly and removed the pictures ... but it's wank, isn't it?

djh, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:58 (two weeks ago) link

The Independent had the wrong picture for Denise Johnson

nate woolls, Thursday, 30 July 2020 00:10 (two weeks ago) link

they do this every couple of days they’re basically doing it on purpose with how little of a shit they give about preventing these mistakes

the state is bad (Left), Thursday, 30 July 2020 07:12 (two weeks ago) link

Jones is a fucking tool for joining in this racist liberal performance even with his usual buts and otohs. but what’s new

the state is bad (Left), Thursday, 30 July 2020 07:16 (two weeks ago) link


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