Does anyone have recommendations for further listening, suggestions...opinions,,,etc.?
― shookout (shookout), Friday, 23 July 2004 12:03 (seventeen years ago) link
I've not heard his new album yet, but I thought Here Comes that Wierd Chill was a bit hit and miss
― actionjackson72, Friday, 23 July 2004 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 23 July 2004 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 23 July 2004 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link
lanegan solo-albums: i love them all :) i'll take care of you is a wonderfully subdued covers-album. some of my favorite songs are on the winding sheet (title track, "wildflowers", "undertow" his voice on "eyes of a child", kurt's guitar on "where did you sleep last night")
like XX-drinking stevie, i heartily recommend sweet oblivion. early trees work is a bit more hit-and-miss, but there's an excellent compilation (anthology) that's still available i think.
― willem (willem), Friday, 23 July 2004 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 July 2004 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 23 July 2004 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― willem (willem), Friday, 23 July 2004 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― drew, Friday, 23 July 2004 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― shookout (shookout), Saturday, 24 July 2004 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 24 July 2004 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link
Scraps is dope.
― steeve mcqueen (steeve mcqueen), Sunday, 25 July 2004 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― steeve mcqueen (steeve mcqueen), Sunday, 25 July 2004 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
― held tony (held tony), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
if i had've it would have brought up decidely outdated threads like this one.
just kidding. point taken
and yes, *sigh* the winding sheet is my personal fave, followed by the ghostly scraps at midnight
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
But hell all of them are great.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
― earinfections (Nick Twisp), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Realised he was being limited to solo albums? Tough shit, I can highly recommend Ballad of the Broken Seas.
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link
...Homme has dealt with similar questions regarding Mark Lanegan, whose formidable presence is noticeably absent from Over the Years and Through the Woods. Lanegan is seemingly the only member of Queens with access to a revolving door—he left Queens right around the time Oliveri was fired, but returned to the fold less than a year later. However, those familiar with Lanegan’s somewhat sordid history shouldn’t be all that surprised. “Mark has had a drug problem for years that’s just deadly,” Homme explains. “I love the guy—he’s one of my closest friends, and that’s why I can’t hang around him right now. It sucks, because I want to. I’ve always sought ways to try to elevate Mark in the public eye so more people would know who he was. But you know, he’s unwilling to even let people know when he has a record out. [Lanegan has released six solo albums since 1990.] He’s not that social of a guy, and I wish he’d understand that he doesn’t understand what the rest of the people don’t understand about him. He writes great music, and it doesn’t need to be any more than that. I love him, but he also needs to get up off the cross and fuckin’ play rock n’ roll.”
― shookout (shookout), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Bonnie Brae, Twilight Singers
there was a raptureso i can never see you anymorenightmares believablewalking into sweet oblivioni'm not saying it's easyto feel it all nor not at allwhen somebody say, lay down your gunand when you lay it down, get ready to run
situation direit's gone away, it's not going awaysince you're wasting time again, my friendon bonnie brae, on bonnie brae
if she's your masterthen get down on your knees and beg for morei'm not saying it's easierto live your life like her little whore
'cuz when you play with firetake your fate, it's not going awaysituation dire, on bonnie braeon bonnie brae, on bonnie brae
the soul, the screen, the smoke in betweenthe rise, the fall, the thrill ofthe first, the last, the sins of the pastthe burn, the fade, the skin that you've flayedcome see, the sun, kill everyonebut me, i'm free indubitably
There was a raptureSo I can never see you anymoreNot saying it's easyNot saying it's easy...
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link
His collaborations have been great but I am more than ready for a new solo record, Bubblegum seems like it came out ages ago. Lately I have really been enjoying I'll Take Care Of You.
― Jim, Sunday, 29 June 2008 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Bubblegum is probably my favorite, i actually pulled it out last week for a spin. but i need to hear all the solo records (i've heard maybe half of them). great guy though, was killer on the Gutter Twins tour this spring.
― stephen, Sunday, 29 June 2008 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
He's too old.
96BPM at best
― Fer Ark, Sunday, 29 June 2008 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Fer Dumb Comment?
― Jim, Sunday, 29 June 2008 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that was stupid. Lanegan's great live. he's not about showmanship, stage presence, anything like that. it's all about That Voice. and man does he still have it going live (and on record, btw).
― stephen, Sunday, 29 June 2008 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
― Remember! The cormorant is a big brrd. It has got a long neck. (unregistered), Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:31 (eight years ago) link
Heard that the other day -- the man's still got it.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:43 (eight years ago) link
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 16 September 2013 21:35 (eight years ago) link
this is basically American VI: YOLT, isn't it? I keep imagining that Mark recorded several albums' worth of cover songs with Martin Feveyear, with this album being the final installment of odds 'n' sods that didn't make it onto the earlier collections. I know Mark chose the material himself and has a sincere appreciation for the original artists, but there's a whiff of "give this guy any old schlock, and he'll put his own world-weary, whiskey-soaked stamp on it" to the project. with the exception of "Pretty Colors", the oldies material is weaker than the contemporary stuff.
part of what I liked about I'll Take Care of You is that he was unashamed to play tastemaster, covering cool, obscure singer-songwriters like Tim Hardin, Fred Neil, Dave Van Ronk who were obvious precursors for his own music. but on Imitations he isn't ashamed of his uncool, somewhat kitschy track picks, and ironically the performances are stiffer and more self-conscious because he's less suited to the material. the sweet string arrangements only heighten the disconnect between singer and song. it's not a bad album, but it's definitely his weakest solo effort. to my ears, this album, his collaborations with Isobel Campell, and some of his guest appearances are little more than showcases for his wonderful singing voice, but that isn't enough to interest me anymore. eh, Blues Funeral and the Gutter Twins album were great, so I'm not worried that he's completely run out of ideas.
― Remember! The cormorant is a big brrd. It has got a long neck. (unregistered), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:38 (eight years ago) link
I can't believe he shelved these songs for 13 years. some of his best work, imho.
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Thursday, 27 August 2015 23:30 (six years ago) link
Huh, apparently no talk about Gargoyle, his newest, on here, or maybe I've just forgotten where it is. Came out a few months ago and while I picked out a couple of great songs from it from the start -- "Beehive" is my favorite, easy -- a relisten last night made it fully click front to back -- it's easy to say Yet Another Great Mark Lanegan album but it really is. A remix EP also came out that's really enjoyable.
But I also bring this up because after nearly 25 years of being actively interested in his work I finally saw him last night live for the first time. What a ridiculously good show. As my girlfriend said, it's remarkable just how easy his backing band made everything look, just one sharp performance after another in all manner of approaches and styles. Meantime the man himself similarly nailed it, that rich and ragged sound song for song, and all he had to do was just stand there, sing, maybe move a bit here and there and otherwise limit it to occasional thank-yous and a band introduction near the end.
What blew my mind into the next room was the final song, though -- a cover of "Love Will Tear Us Apart," unintroduced. They just hit those opening riffs and I thought I might know it, then the full synth part kicked in and goddamn. And it couldn't have been a better match for both his voice and his aesthetic.
All that and it was just refreshing to see someone like that who had 'the big hit' with "Nearly Lost You" all that time back not feeling the need to play it all, and nobody missing it or caring. Some acts aren't so lucky.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 August 2017 13:52 (four years ago) link
The new album is one of my favourites of this year. I saw Lanegan with Masters Of Reality supporting him some years back. He was great. Josh Homme and Nick Oliveri were backing Chris Goss in MOR.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 13:54 (four years ago) link
This is already going to be one of my reads of the year next year
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:37 (two years ago) link
I haven't really kept up with his output over the last couple of years, the man's been pretty prolific!MLB have just released a new album, Somebody's Knocking, the AMG review of which makes me curious to hear it. He's also released a collaborative album (as Dark Mark, lol) with Italian musician Not Waving (whose solo output I've been enjoying a lot): Downwelling. This is an album I've grown to love over the last few weeks. The music evokes an idiosyncratic atmosphere of melancholy bleakness that matches so well with his vocals. Highly recommended.
― willem, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 13:07 (two years ago) link
no real interest in lanegan's stuff normally but what an odd and excellent record 'downwelling' is
― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:13 (two years ago) link
I haven't heard his last couple albums, but he seems to have some very, uh, interesting ideas these days
― panburger partner (unregistered), Friday, 24 July 2020 00:36 (one year ago) link
His new memoir is pretty great (although it stops around 1998ish, so we need a sequel), but he's clearly gone off the deep end with the 5G nonsense.
― beamish13, Friday, 24 July 2020 01:25 (one year ago) link
dude is on a mission to do as many guest vocals as possible it seems like? The Armed and Moby this week alone
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:07 (one year ago) link
tbf Moby could actually be a member of The Armed
― imago, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:16 (one year ago) link
if he lifts for 8 months maybe
Our beloved friend Mark Lanegan passed away this morning at his home in Killarney, Ireland. A beloved singer, songwriter, author and musician he was 57 and is survived by his wife Shelley. No other information is available at this time. We ask Please respect the family privacy— mark lanegan (@marklanegan) February 22, 2022
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 19:52 (three months ago) link
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 20:04 (three months ago) link
― Mule, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 20:06 (three months ago) link
Saw him with the Queens in 2001 (R tour) and as the Mark Lanegan Band in 2004 (Bubblegum tour), he was never less than amazing to watch, a point of stillness at the centre of things is a great way to put it. Bubblegum and esp. the preceding EP, Here Comes That Weird Chill (which I eluded to back up here in 2004) are some of my favourite origingal Lanegan releases. I especially loved the production on the EP, there’s a rawness to it that I often miss in other releases, which are sometimes sounding a bit hermetic, imo. There’s so much collaborative stuff I haven’t heard though, catching up on those. His 2019 collaboration, Downwelling, with Not Waving (as Dark Mark (now that’s an alias) is a personal favourite.
― willem, Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:54 (two months ago) link
I remember him at that LSE show moving his fingers at the mic stand like he was playing double bass. Wonder if that was something he made a habit of.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:23 (two months ago) link
i know i have posted re my love re this production crew here and there on ilm, however, when the results end up like this, then i have no regrets.in my world, mark provided the best vocals they ever had.
― mark e, Friday, 25 February 2022 00:19 (two months ago) link
I never got to see him with the Trees (iirc), but I got to see him with Isobel Campbell, with the QOTSA, with Greg Dulli, and that really says it all. His voice worked wonders in lots of contexts.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 00:38 (two months ago) link
mark e. — YES. I've had that one on repeat more than anything else. Open arms.
― jaywbabcock, Friday, 25 February 2022 00:41 (two months ago) link
unearthing all of his collaborations i havent heard has been a bittersweet positive
A compilation -- no, a full box set -- of all the astounding one-offs and tribute comp appearances and everything else would be so welcome. Hell I was reminded of this the other day -- he takes a Marc Almond song that was originally a duet with Nico (her last formal recording IIRC), sings it with Beth Orton and while keeping all the melodrama of the original heightens it by default into a Lee and Nancy song from hell:
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 February 2022 00:49 (two months ago) link
i made a youtube playlist of some of my favorite stuff plus tons of stuff i discovered these past couple of dayshttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLHnyDe_1GTvcILl3Z2MTTUBXigxer4gx
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 February 2022 00:54 (two months ago) link
there’s no reason for this “November Rain” cover w Nicole Atkins to work but lord i believe it doeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee6eI1P7IvY
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 February 2022 00:55 (two months ago) link
vegemite — I've been making a playlist too, I'll check out yours soon. Just came across this now. He looks like a man truly at the end of his tether but he somehow goes all the way on the vocal. Beautiful/heartbreaking to hear the final refrain.
― jaywbabcock, Friday, 25 February 2022 01:15 (two months ago) link
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 February 2022 06:08 (two months ago) link
Apologies if somebody else has posted this already. I think this is the way I want to sit with his music, and his spirit, for a while. For whatever reason, here he seems calm and bemused while being asked the usual interview questions, live on the air, and then completely focused on singing the most lovely/loving songs — especially the closer which is essentially Lanegan doing a lullaby of the standard Reaching for the Moon. This is the rare event where Lanegan has his eyes open (sometimes, just a bit) while singing. I swear he is close to tears.
― jaywbabcock, Friday, 25 February 2022 15:21 (two months ago) link
Reaching for the Moon, only
― jaywbabcock, Friday, 25 February 2022 15:48 (two months ago) link
One Mr. Cave
Lovely tribute to Mark Lanegan from Nick Cave on his Red Hand Files email today (definitely worth subscribing to). pic.twitter.com/ulv6Vl8Da3— Ted Kessler (@TedKessler1) February 25, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:02 (two months ago) link
<3that Brompton Oratory cover he mentions is really something . The original is one of my favorite alltime Cave tracks, Lanegan sings it so beautifully
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 February 2022 18:28 (two months ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 26 February 2022 09:38 (two months ago) link
Lovely words from the other week
Meantime, I took my piece on seven interpretations of others' songs he did from behind the Patreon paywall. They're all amazing.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 20:06 (two months ago) link
hey, I don't know if there are any screaming trees megafanz here, but I found this press photo earlier when I was digging through my stacks - yell if you want it! think it was in a review copy of 'Even If...' which I don't have anymore
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:08 (two months ago) link
aw that is so sweetthank you for posting!!
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:17 (two months ago) link
yeah, they're pretty young there - van conner must be about 20 or something like that? btw my ilx-mail doesn't work, so if anyone does want it just shout at me here
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:34 (two months ago) link
A few days ago I downloaded a sample of ML's memoir because unfortunately I had snoozed on his excellent writing. I am reading about the early days of the band and it's fun to put a face to a name.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:36 (two months ago) link
i think that's mark pickerel on the left then van conner at the front and gary lee behind him
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:39 (two months ago) link
The baby has to be Pickerel
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:44 (two months ago) link
i went back & re-listened to the early Trees albums, they are really great. I think my favorite is Clairvoyance. First three or four albums definitely have a heavy throwback psychedelia/garage vibe. First album is that in its purest form imo, very Sonics, at times reminds me of Electric Prunes, just a bunch of 20 year olds making music & having fun. It’s cool & they are fucking great. Intersting the different quality to Lanegan’s voice, he’s in a Jim Morrison lane here & hasn’t yet plumbed down into the baritonal depths of later Trees & solo career. More energetic YAYUH stuff, he sounds so good but its exciting in that unformed, “doesn’t know what he is yet” kinda way. Youthful, obviously, too which is also fun to hear from a guy who has sounded older than his years for a long time.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:46 (two months ago) link
Intersting the different quality to Lanegan’s voice, he’s in a Jim Morrison lane here & hasn’t yet plumbed down into the baritonal depths of later Trees & solo career.
He told me that during this era he'd walk offstage every night with a headache from trying to sing songs written in a register other than his. He was really sour on the early Trees stuff, and didn't sweeten on it when he wrote his memoir. But I love those records; they aren't the equal of Sweet Oblivion or Dust, but they are fantastic garage rock - In The Forest and Back Together have this excellent proto-punk energy, End Of The Universe has that thundercrack second riff towards the end that Jack White later half-inched, Cold Rain is just a fantastic pop song. And Grey Diamond Desert is just this majestic, slow, shimmering thing. That's the song where whatever Lanegan was going to become first surfaces.
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:53 (two months ago) link
For those with an interest in young Screaming Trees, The Fertilichrome Cheerleader Massacre has been released on youtube since last I checked!
― peace, man, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 22:28 (two months ago) link
This whole session is great, they also cover The End and Tales Of Great Ulysseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjzmOquIP8g
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 22:50 (two months ago) link
So glad to see all these posts, photos, videos, links. ILM can be so wonderful.
Meanwhile, fwiw, I've written a very simple thing about discovering a deeper pattern in my mourning process involving musicians. Lanegan, Prince, Bowie, etc.
― jaywbabcock, Thursday, 3 March 2022 14:54 (two months ago) link
Yes! I have that too - thank you :-)
― StanM, Thursday, 3 March 2022 16:28 (two months ago) link
Nice. I have already listened to that Bowie thing a few times just now.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 3 March 2022 17:36 (two months ago) link
The first memoir is pretty good, very scathing though. Really didn't like himself much. Hope he wasa lot more comfortable with himself later on.I'm like 2/3s of the way through it.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:16 (two months ago) link
Gary - The Bowie is just the best, isn't it? His joy in figuring out the puzzle of each vocalist's approach is a delight I never tire of.
― jaywbabcock, Friday, 4 March 2022 19:11 (two months ago) link
Thanks, Jay. Truth be told I couldn't totally figure out who each singer was until I looked at the comments. Think Lou was my favorite, Marc Bolan a close second. To me it was disingenous of him to say Iggy was "hard to do" since there is a lot of obvious overlap in their singing styles.Also, say hello to your brother for me. Finally, you may call me James.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 March 2022 19:39 (two months ago) link
Just gonna put this here. Watch to the very end.
― jaywbabcock, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:45 (two months ago) link
Thanks. Will watch later. Also meant to come back and say I ended up listening to The Gutter Twins over the weekend and finally paid a little attention
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:49 (two months ago) link
Another gorgeous cover/interpretation I'd missed. I saw him joke/not-joke in a 2019 interview that it had become his signature song and now I hear why.
― jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 02:06 (two months ago) link
xp That KXLU session is awesome
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 02:09 (two months ago) link
Missed this at the time -- Barrett Martin's response to the news (there are various further posts)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 17:44 (one month ago) link
It was a real treat to do something long overdue here: an introductory guide to Lanegan’s work across all the decades and in numerous contexts.https://theshfl.com/guide/mark-laneganThe focus is on albums for Shfl so it’s not the true range given all the EPs, singles and one-offs, but I really think this gives him his real due.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 April 2022 16:28 (four weeks ago) link
― StanM, Sunday, 24 April 2022 18:48 (four weeks ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 April 2022 01:13 (three weeks ago) link
Enjoyed this write-up! Working my way through a few things I hadn't heard. The gravel/grain of his voice well recorded is such a force.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Monday, 25 April 2022 06:49 (three weeks ago) link
There's some really great live stuff from the Bubblegum tour in 2004. I remember the Milan date and the video from Other Voices in Dingle, County Kerry both being brilliant. May have said that on here before but not managing to look back on thread cos on my phone and video and other images are messing up scrolling.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 April 2022 07:06 (three weeks ago) link
Great stuff Ned!
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 25 April 2022 07:43 (three weeks ago) link
Thanks very kindly.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:43 (three weeks ago) link
A new piece talking with many who knew/worked with him
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 16:44 (two weeks ago) link
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:37 (two weeks ago) link
Among other things, I hadn't realized the mid-90s MTV taxi guy in those spots was Donal Logue!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:38 (two weeks ago) link
Interesting. This appears to be something of a general memoir?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:40 (one week ago) link
Or rather some kind of interpretive work of his lyrics and words but with his participation? Whatever it is, potentially of interest.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:42 (one week ago) link