What does ILX think of "Love and Theft"? No hyperlinking to articles by Greil Marcus please.
P.S. Perhaps we should have a "Dylan" category.
― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
my take is love and theft much like most dylan albums is a great album...its high points , however, are not as high as time out of mind's high points (say not dark yet) but its more consistent..
its a great record as a tribute to AMERICAN MUSIC>.its got bluegrass, country, rock and folk and the kitchen sink in it...
i wish he had used the arrangement sheryl crow used on mississippi(he gave her the song to record before he recorded it) instead of slowing it down like he did.....
i think its hard not to like love and theft...BUT its not an album that moves me as much as other parts of his ouevre...
i can't wait for him to release another one but i'm pretty sure its going to be a few years.. he only releases albums to drum up business for his shows.. he has no real interest in recording... thats pretty apparent...
― serge, Friday, 16 July 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link
He might have done a 180 on this later, but he did give a blurb for "Invisible Republic," I believe it was.
As for the album, I love L&T even more than TOOM. I think it's off base to say he's not much interested in recording when he put so much work into these two records. He even booted Lanois off the L&T sessions because he wanted a different sound. His interest has obviously been rekindled.
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link
And while musicians seldom, ah, intrude on Dylan's creations, Charlie Sexton may be the worst guitarist ever for him. A much worse presence than the Dreaded Lanois, which is saying something. Fako Americana effect. I'd rather hear Dylan sing 'We Three' then try to rewrite it.
― rumple., Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Slow
down.
--didn't like it much. I hardly remember what it sounded like. Slow Train Comin' might be embarrassing lyrically at times, but musically, I'll take it over Love & Theft. But then, I think Slow Train Comin' is pretty good.
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:50 (nineteen years ago) link
The notion that he only records to drum up business for his shows is nonesense. Dylan is one of the only musicians outside of jazz who actually tours whether he has an album to promote or not. It is true that he has little patience for the recording process - but he tours relentlessly - it matters not if his latest record is 3 years old or 3 weeks old - he does not tour to promote records and he does not make records to promote tours. He records when he has new songs and he tours because he loves playing live.
― originalspin, Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:52 (nineteen years ago) link
the late '90s live versions of 'love sick' etc are kind of incredible
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 17 July 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― olle, Saturday, 17 July 2004 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Some of the songs are better than others (the album gets snoozy at times). And the playing is a little too dull and "old-guy professional" for my taste (it makes me think of a talk show band). But I like everything about "Mississippi." And I think the lyrics are really entertaining and sharp all the way through.
And his voice... man oh man... it's just one of my favorite things in the world.
(I haven't heard any of the albums between Under the Red Sky and this one.)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Saturday, 17 July 2004 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 17 July 2004 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Saturday, 17 July 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
greil marcus' invisible republic is shite. its just a bunch of mumbo jumbo.. he goes way too far in his analysis... thats my opinion of course....
and i love self portrait too!
― serge, Saturday, 17 July 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― serge, Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― rumple, Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― rumple., Saturday, 17 July 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
i didn't mean to imply that no one but dylan had touched that blurb. perhaps his manager did write it (but i wonder how you are so sure), but in any event dylan signed off on it. it's not as though his name appears under blurbs terribly often.
― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 17 July 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
"invisible republic" is only like 10% "about" dylan's songs anyway.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 17 July 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― shookout (shookout), Sunday, 18 July 2004 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Levon Helm book blurb #3. I agree that if it had his imprint, what's the diff, but you REALLY think it sounds like him?
"Greil Marcus has done it again."
― rumple., Sunday, 18 July 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― spittle (spittle), Sunday, 18 July 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Sunday, 18 July 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link
sorry .. i don't think we are going to reach agreement on this...
― serge, Sunday, 18 July 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Sunday, 18 July 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Decent, but "Time Out Of Mind" destroys it. And there was no need to give the best song to Sheryl Crow before reclaiming it.
― Brian the Snorf, Monday, 19 July 2004 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link
It looks like nobody has a definite answer. But ... in 'High Water' he even rehashes the old Coo-Coo song!
My other quandary is: Love and Theft vs Time Out Of Mind. I have never quite been able to choose. Perhaps I do rate TOOM higher, but L&T is such a lot of fun.
― the bobfox, Saturday, 18 September 2004 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― the bobfox, Saturday, 18 September 2004 09:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― misery, Saturday, 18 September 2004 09:50 (nineteen years ago) link
I mostly like Love & Theft because it's kinda spry and punchy, not what I was expecting after TOOM. A handful of great tunes and a whole bunch of good ones.
― spittle (spittle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
i mean, i probably wish that about lots of records, but, you know.
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 06:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Not Thaat Chuck, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't have "Chronicles" handy, but, yeah, he confesses he wasn't happy with Lanois "voodoo" sound. I'm inclined to blame both Lanois' production and Dylan's uneven songwriting.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Not "misguided," but you might as well wish for a pony while you're at it. I think Dylan's been trying, sporadically at least, to recapture that sound for the last 30-odd years.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Just got ambushed by "Honest With Me" on Exponential Radio (this NPR audio channel on TV)--serious banger.
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