Haruomi Hosono

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ah, nice to hear they were played out in the 80s. those muji tracks are almost too perfect to be ambient music to shop to... but them being ambient music to shop to makes them even more perfect. I picture supermarket aisles myself. (muji started as a supermarket or something, right?)

no mention of the US shows? NY and LA! I'm keeping my expectations grounded in the boogie woogie zone but sakamoto joining for the NY set seems within the realm of possibility...

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 15 March 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link

why does ryuchi trend in the indie art miasma but not hosono. Is it the hair?

57mg/20floz, Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:49 (five years ago) link

Much less obvious connections to western artists, tended towards nurturing and collaborating with Japanese artists.

MaresNest, Saturday, 16 March 2019 13:18 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Is this the place to discuss this new LITA comp?

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Pacific-Breeze-Japanese-City-Pop-AOR-Boogie-1976-1986/master/1539822

The city pop thread doesn't seem to get a lot of traffic.

Sounds fantastic so far. If nothing else I'm very happy to finally have an affordable copy of Hiroshi Sato's "Say Goodbye" (though I still wish someone would reissue that This Boy comp)

Revelation for me so far: Minako Yoshida's "Midnight Driver." Such a jam!

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

yoshida's monochrome album is really great.

visiting, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Just ordered this last night. I only know Drip Dry Eyes and Sports Men which are both absolutely perfect. Very excited to hear the rest.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 May 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link

Excited for this

calstars, Friday, 3 May 2019 07:45 (four years ago) link

been wanting a copy of LA Night for ages, best song ever

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

yea I'm in the same boat as KP, if anything on the comp is as good as either of those I'll consider it money well spent

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

I'm familiar with maybe half that compilation, agree that Sports Men is perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9M-F2WB6nI

the Seaside Lovers album that "Sun Bathing" is from is really lovely - it's cheesy but i adore this sort of smooth beach music

ufo, Friday, 3 May 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

oh 'i thought it was you' is on it too - love that one as well, those drums kill me

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

oh wait i'm getting confused by the LITA 'Pacific Breeze' spotify playlist which has a bunch of different tracks on it
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1MuAHiy0n7158rCXN2hHjm

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

FYI - LITA actually is pressing more copies of Paraiso, remastered by Yoshinori Sunahara (of Denki Groove fame)

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/4913-paraiso

the price is steep but as they say, "fuck it"

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

oh shit i'd forgotten just how majestic the drums vs. vocoder blaze-up is at the end of 'i thought it was you'. godlike!

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

that thing that funk records do where they just jam on for 3-4 minutes after the song's over is the coolest thing, I wish more genres would try stuff like that

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

ha yes!

i really need to get on those friends of earth records don't i?

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

At $45 it's stretching what I'd normally pay for a single lp, but I had to order the 'Seaside Lovers' LP as well ;_;

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 May 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link

it's one of the three or so albums I'd actually pay that much for

frogbs, Monday, 6 May 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

https://www.forcedexposure.com/App_Themes/Default/Images/product_images/close_up/w/WWSCD018CD_CU.jpg

Akiko Yano's brilliant 'Irohani-Konpeitou' is being reissued! Always think of this record - though not her debut - as her 'The Kick Inside'. It's so brazen and playful, with melodies to melt away to.

And speaking of: that article mentioned the reissue of 'Tadaima' last year, and that completely passed me by. Anyone bought it? Is it good?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

This album, Tadaima, Gohan Ga Deki Tayo and Ai Ga Nakuchane are all of them great, Great records. Buy 'em all.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

there's some merit to that LBI - as far as I know, the songs on I-K were written before those on Japanese Girl

always felt this one was a bit weaker than the surrounding albums (though I love track 5 "Ike Yanagida"), still will probably buy it for the sleeve alone, one of my favorite album covers ever

btw Oesu Oesu is another good one - it took a bit to sink in but I've come to see it as one of her best and most representative albums. after that she kinda got mired in that cycle of dated production/back-to-basics, though shes always a joy to listen to

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

I actually like this album from 1986 best: https://www.discogs.com/Akiko-Yano-峠のわが家/master/254757

Definitely slick mid 80s rock production there. Steve Ferrone on drums!

brimstead, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

I bought the Tadaima reissue. I'm really happy with it as the artwork and sound quality are spot on. I saw they did Japanese Girl a couple of months ago. I should pick that up.

I still have hope that someone will reissue some of the Miharu Koshi albums at some point. I saw a copy of Parallelisme come up on Discogs for $75 and I really was tempted.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

particularly Boy Soprano, which I think is about as good as anything else mentioned in this thread. the version of "Ave Maria" is such a stunner, I can't do anything while it's playing

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link

I'm a huge fan of 'Honto No Kimochi', a latter-day Akiko Yano rekkid, very beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHDUZMjnvs8

MaresNest, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

there's some merit to that LBI - as far as I know, the songs on I-K were written before those on Japanese Girl

I did not know that.

Thanks for that vid MaresNest, I'm still to discover her latter day records, this sounds great.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

yeah this is really nice. I'm currently digging her '92 solo piano record "Super Folk Song", though I think a lot of those songs are covers. at least one of 'em I swear is a Moonriders tune, though Akiko sorta makes everything her own so it's hard to tell

poking around YT...she definitely returned to weirdo technopop at some point. I think is from 2014.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlYe-p_XChU&list=RDXAbjxBtESs0

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

Listen, I like creative design and all, but LITA can fuck right off with this:

http://i.imgur.com/IND19Uj.jpg

Trying to read that circle one is anger inducing.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

I frequently realize that what I love about YMO+ is slightly adjacent to what you all love. You might find this record interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiGeyJeBXcc

I ran the description through Google Translate and it says that Hosono was an 'advisor' (mistranslation?) on this album. It has the mark of Hosono.

Hideki Matsutake, the 'unofficial' (crucial) 4th member of YMO, deserves his own S&D thread. That's a DEEP rabbit hole.

3×5, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

BTW the above record is from '82, not '84, putting it closer to YMO's glory days.

3×5, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

I frequently realize that what I love about YMO+ is slightly adjacent to what you all love

would be curious for your elaboration on this!

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

also, i really like that last track

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

I bought the first YMO record, on yellow vinyl, 25 years ago. I was 14 and that record changed my life. I knew, right away, the impact YMO had on Japanese music because I could hear it in SNES and Sega soundtracks.

Part of they key to that early YMO sound is extensive programming of the Roland Microcomposer, the first digital, programmable sequencer. So while YMO weren't the first electronic pop band, they were the first to release computer-programmed pop. They're not 'loopy' or repetitive like Kraftwerk or other contemporaries.

The YMO sound I love is loungy, self-referentially Japanese, and predates MIDI and sample-based drum machines. When ILX goes into YMO deep-dives, they tend to go further into the 80s, but all the great material, YMO and related, happens from '77 to '81.

3×5, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

A couple of years back some friends and myself made a little internet radio show of Japanese Music for a little internet station for a few years, we did almost 70 editions, went pretty deep down some rabbit holes during that period and I'm pretty sure there wasn't one episode that passed without having a member of YMO (including Yanno and Matsutake) having a hand in some track, particularly Hosono, it fast became a running joke.

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

A couple of years back some friends and myself made a little internet radio show of Japanese Music for a little internet station for a few years

there are no little internet radio shows, only little internet people

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

Yep, lol, Maresnest + Monkey 47 Gin + ILM access = redundancy

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

that show was pretty great...discovered a lot of neat stuff through there

I remember a question on some message board about who would be the "Kevin Bacon" in the music biz, the one person you could connect to virtually any artist via a few steps...my answer was Ryuichi Sakamoto

amusingly, P-Model (Japan's OTHER great technopop band) appears to have no connection whatsoever

frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

No connection to YMO, at all? Hmmm damn

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

unless you wanna get really tenuous - the producer of In a Model Room was the keyboard player for Plastics, which later splintered into Melon, who did an album with Snakeman Show, which appeared on Xoo Multiplies

what have I been doing with my life

frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

I remember a question on some message board about who would be the "Kevin Bacon" in the music biz, the one person you could connect to virtually any artist via a few steps...my answer was Ryuichi Sakamoto

i always thought this might be brian eno. in sakamoto's case it would be

eno ----> bowie <---- sakamoto

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

A couple of years back some friends and myself made a little internet radio show of Japanese Music for a little internet station for a few years

The interview you did with Chris Mosdell (YMO lyricist) was most revealing iirc.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

I'm the dummy here probably but I need to ask: what show was it?!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

Matt it was Peter Barakan! I should have tracked down Mosdell too actually

MaresNest, Friday, 17 May 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link

Not at all LBI, it's all here - https://www.mixcloud.com/japanalternativesessions/

MaresNest, Friday, 17 May 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah sorry, anyway I enjoyed his YMO-arguing-in-the-studio stories very much!

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Friday, 17 May 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

Thanks MaresNest, that looks amazing! I've got 69 episodes to enjoy :)

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 17 May 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

Ah, yr welcome, if there's anything in there you like but have trouble tracking down hmu.

MaresNest, Sunday, 19 May 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but Hosono still has a weekly radio show called Daisy Holiday every Sunday on Tokyo's InterFM. It's quite chatty (not so good for non-Japanese speakers like me) but it's pretty cheerful.

I've finally managed to jump through the various VPN hoops needed to stream Japanese radio outside Japan (most of the big stations stream through one site, Radiko, which is locked down unbelievably strongly) and have started recorded episodes and putting them into a Google Drive folder. I'm also recording Towa Tei's show on J-Wave, and will be recording Sakamoto's bi-monthly show there too.

If anyone wants access, send me an email through the board and I'll add you to the folder.

bamboohouses, Monday, 20 May 2019 06:31 (four years ago) link

Also, would it be worth starting a new thread specifically for reissues of Japanese records and compilations? There's been a ton of them in the last year or so, with a load more on the way...

bamboohouses, Monday, 20 May 2019 06:38 (four years ago) link

daisy holiday playlists

visiting, Monday, 20 May 2019 06:52 (four years ago) link


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