Wilco - "they're just so damn WEIRD!"

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(CNN article written by someone who has listened to nothing more far out than Third Eye Blind apparently)


The most eagerly awaited weird CD of 2004
Wilco's 'a ghost is born' a new high for band

NEW YORK (AP) -- Wilco's music is, by turns, enigmatic, compelling, thrilling and absorbing. And it's often -- let's be honest here -- just plain weird.

Sometimes it's many of those things in the same song. But while Wilco's 2002 breakthrough album, "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot," was self-consciously weird, the follow-up, "a ghost is born," is more confidently weird.

The disc is being released Tuesday, although Wilco has streamed the music on its Web site for the past two months.

The new album's predecessor became a legendary parable for the music industry, even a subject for a movie. Rejected by Wilco's record company -- essentially for being too, uh, weird>/b> -- it was released to critical acclaim and became Wilco's biggest seller.

Wilco's growth from a standard alternative country band to a more arty, experimental unit nearly tore the band apart.

"It was a much easier record in terms of band dynamic and the amount of collaboration and investment from everybody involved," said Jeff Tweedy, the chief singer and songwriter. "There was a lot more of a unified vision of what we wanted to do."

The documentary depicting the "Yankee" sessions showed Tweedy and an ex-band member frequently arguing, with Tweedy leaving the studio at one point to vomit.

While it was smoother sailing with the band, Tweedy's health clouded the sessions for "Ghost."

"I was feeling so rotten physically and emotionally that it was kind of a bloodbath for me," he said.

Tweedy had frequent migraines from a panic disorder, which led to an addiction to painkillers. He went to a treatment facility for nearly a month this spring to deal with the problems.

He's sure those troubles are reflected in his songs.

Tweedy -- the band's lead singer and songwriter -- suffered from migraines, a panic disorder and an addiction to painkillers while making the album.

"A lot of things came from my subconscious that made me realize that I did know down deep some of the things I needed to do to get better," he said. "That's not uncommon. I think music exists to help you identify things in your life."

While "Yankee" was an album that looked out at the world and struggles to communicate, "ghost" looks inward, he said. Much of it is about how difficult it is to know and be comfortable with who you are.

The song "Handshake Drugs" is one of the album's most straightforward songs lyrically. But Tweedy often writes in a language that barely approaches English. He comes up with Technicolor imagery -- "a fixed bayonet through the great southwest to forget her"-- that can be difficult to decipher.

Tweedy has a very specific story in his head when he sings "Spiders (Kidsmoke)." He sees rebellious preteens testing their independence on a summer vacation, coping with the emotional unavailability of their white-collar, workaholic parents.

The lyrics: "Spiders are singing in the salty breeze, spiders are filling out tax returns, spinning out webs of deductions and melody, on a private beach in Michigan."

Tweedy has no idea whether listeners will conjure the same story and, like many writers, doesn't particularly care.

"The only way it works is for a listener to come to it and find some shape that fits them, to find some container that's the right size to pour themselves into" he said. "That's the only way art works. At least 50 percent of the equation is the consciousness of the listener."

Wilco's eclecticism extends to the music. "Spiders (Kidsmoke)," is 10 minutes long, driven by a bubbling synthesizer and a guitar riff, that draws hypnotic strength from repetition.

"At Least That's What You Said" is a whisper-quiet love song, accompanied by piano, for two minutes. Then it ends wordlessly with a squalling, Neil Young-like guitar workout.

The ultimate is "Less Than You Think." It's a pretty, conventional song for three minutes then ends with a 12-minute, machine-made drone that would test anyone's patience.

The song is about free will and is partly an inside joke; the band wanted the longest song on the album to be called "Less Than You Think." It also compels audience participation.

"It was another way to encourage listeners to exercise their free will -- to get up and turn it off," Tweedy said.

Tweedy smiles when he hears a phrase that writer Joe Klein, in The New York Times review of Greg Kot's new biography of Wilco, used to describe the music on "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot." He called it "brilliantly annoying" -- a phrase he might extend to "a ghost is born."

"It sounded positive," Tweedy said. "I think that's better than just annoying. I think it's better than just brilliant. Neither one of those would be very descriptive of that record."

If a listener said that he often has no idea what Tweedy is saying in a song but enjoys it anyway, would Tweedy be pleased or insulted?

"I consider that a compliment, because I think they're wrong," he said. "I don't think they don't understand a bloody thing I'm talking about. I just think they might not be able to express it, because it might be something that's not centered around language.

"It's music," he said. "You can't tell someone a melody. You can't tell someone a guitar solo. They're very powerful things."

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck. well you get the idea.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

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Hanson - Weird
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Isn’t it weird, isn’t it strange.
Even though we’re just two strangers on this runaway train
We’re both trying to find a place in the sun
We’ve lived in the shadows, but doesn’t everyone
Isn’t it strange how we all feel a little bit strange sometimes
Isn’t it hard, standing in the rain.
You’re on the verge of going crazy and your heart’s in pain
No one can hear though you’re screaming so loud
You feel all alone in a faceless crowd
Isn’t it strange how we all get a little bit weird sometimes.
Sitting on the side. Waiting for a sign. Hoping that my luck will change.
Reaching for a hand that can understand, someone who feels the same
When you live in a cookie cutter world being different is a sign.
So you don’t stand out.
And you don’t fit in. Weird.
Sitting on the side. Waiting for a sign. Hoping that my luck will change.
Reaching for a hand that can understand, someone who feels the same
When you live in a cookie cutter world if you’re different you can’t win.
So you don’t stand out.
And you don’t fit in. Weird.
Isn’t it strange how we all feel a little bit weird
Strange, how we all get a little bit.
Strange, ‘cause we’re all just a little bit weird sometimes.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i am so glad i am not at work today.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

theres a wilco add PASTED all over the new york times today

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I think my precise problem with Wilco is that they're just NOT weird at all. They're strenuously ordinary.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

That looks a lot like the Pitchfork review.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Besides the ugly design / html, that is ...

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Tweedy had frequent migraines from a panic disorder...

Who would confide such a thing? Someone who feels compelled to babble impulsively to journalists? Certainly a hypochondriac. Maybe he has Munchhausen's Syndrome complicated by aggressively itching piles.
Could he suffer from pinworms? Osgood-Schlatter disease could also be undiagnosed, if he has knee pain. Enuresis can cause panic. Occult syphilis cannot be discounted. Fungal infection in the sinus causes deep skull bone pain.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

man isn't he WEIRD?

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"It's music," he said. "You can't tell someone a melody. You can't tell someone a guitar solo. They're very powerful things."

Water is wet. How do you describe yellow to a person who has been blind all their life? A tree that falls in the wood, does it make a sound? Emotion is a powerful thing. First pull up then pull down. Love is all around. War is Hell. Kick me. I am not a bore. My subconscious torments me with an urge to wear women's clothes. Use your free will. Your mind may not be big enough to wrap around my work. My lyrics are tortured mixed metaphors that even my dog thinks are stupid. Yet I am so accustomed to being a focus of attention and reverence, I still think they are Delphic wisdoms.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Did he sexually assault you or something, George?

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I LIKE WILCO!!!!!!

OK? There, I said it.

I don't think they're ordinary at all - if they were, they'd be selling lots more than they do, and probably be known to those who watch MTV.

Lyrics have to include words which means that no matter what those words are, someone who has an intellectual superiority complex will come along and denounce said lyrics as beneath the consideration of even a dog. I'll take the lyrics to any Wilco song over anything that gets played on commercial radio. I must be stupid too.

Davlo (Davlo), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone likes Wilco. That's why people are so upset. IF that weren't the case, there'd be an equal amount of thread hating on Pitchfork and Wilco as there would be hating on Celine Dion and The Band.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Wilco sucks

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I maintain a thorough indifference.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

PFork hates The Band???

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I still recommend A Ghost Is Born unreservedly.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I recommend it as well because it is good. Try that, bitchez!

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I already see the "hey this isn't that bad" reviews coming in as opposed to the "omg best album ever" stuff for YHF, nevermind the fact that YHF can't begin to hold AGIB's jock.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I so love the word "unreservedly".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 00:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i am told that the new wilco has lots of noisy guitar solos from mr. dudefromscarnella. and that it sounds like mr. neil young.

is this true?

Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

very true

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

this album's only WEIRDER THAN SHIT if you've never heard anything by Neil Young.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

ALSO IAN THERE IS NOISE ON IT

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link

neil young can be pretty weird. this note's for you to thread&!@(*&^*!

Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link

DEAD MAN sdtrk to thread.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Ian, Ian, there's a ten-minute drone and some krautrock!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link

dudes omg!

i hope i'm not become a caricature!

Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Edna Gundersen, funnier than Jackie Harvey because she's (apparently) real:

The retro alt-country of 2002 underdog album Yankee Hotel Foxtrot has all but vanished, replaced on A Ghost Is Born by another noisy apparition to cloud the real identity of frontman Jeff Tweedy.

spittle (spittle), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link

wait, jeff tweedy isn't jeff tweedy? what is this mentalism?

Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG WTF THE DRUMMER FOR WILCO IS A NOISE DUDE AND THEY'RE PRODUCED BY A NOISE DUDE ROFLMAO

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

GYGAX. LITERATI.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Love 'em. Just plain love 'em. Them Wilco boys is amongst my faves.

Speedy (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like Wiclo but suggesting they're 'weird' is just fucking nuts and smacks of the most small-minded cultural conservatism imaginable.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Wilco, otoh, are fucking insanalist kerrazy shitmad batshit nutso experimentalists, obv.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The first time I heard "Heavy Metal Drummer" on the radio it really blew my mind.

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"How is it even making an sound?! There are NO WIRES! It's comign THROUGH THE VERY AIR WE BREATHE!!!"

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

"If I close my eyes I can't see the CD player BUT I CAN STILL HEAR THE MUSIC FUCKING WOW MAN IT'S JUST THERE IN MY BRAIN ALL THE TIME YEAH PASS ME A HERSHEY BAR PLZ K THX MORE ACID YEAH BYE."

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't believe - Wilco on the front cover of The Wire !

with the tagline: "When the going gets weird"


I can only imagine how Jess will react to this !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

New thread: Biggest influences on A Ghost is Born

Merzbow

Thor (Thor), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

! I only just started listening to Wilco on YHF. It's all very nice, but WEIRD? I hope the Wire was joking.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"The Wire with a sense of humour!"

that would be:
Sackbut Blues
http://www.posteverything.com/sackbutblues/index.php

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Wilco's still a fuckin' WEIRD band, huh guys?

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:57 (nineteen years ago) link

bonkers!

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
fuckin peculiar bunch, alt country on acid or somethin

gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

lol @ thread

stephen, Monday, 23 June 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I've never known a band who've worked so hard to be weird.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 23 June 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I think my precise problem with Wilco is that they're just NOT weird at all. They're strenuously ordinary.
-- Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:04 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

quick on the uptake

banriquit, Monday, 23 June 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

ILM obviously doesn't like Wilco.

I like Wilco, but I don't like "A Ghost Is Born" that much. It's the weirdness of "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot", but not with the good tunes that are found on the latter.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 June 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Geir is right. GIB was dissapointing. (well he didn't say that)

Ludo, Monday, 23 June 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

wilco has released some strange albums

omar little, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I could see how Wilco could be weird to a normal person. What's everyone's problem?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

people who think wilco are weird are probably the same people who think obama is a terrorist

omar little, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I only voted for him because I thought he was a terrorist.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

people who think wilco are weird are probably the same people who think obama is a terrorist

Well, Obama has repeatedly voted for more war funding. So yeah, he's a terrorist, albeit state-sponsored.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 23 June 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 June 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link


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