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what is Princes nw album called. thankyou

christine robertshaw, Monday, 21 June 2004 12:18 (sixteen years ago) link

sgt. pepper's lonely hearts club band

RJG (RJG), Monday, 21 June 2004 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Musicology. You're welcome.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 21 June 2004 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Yo, while me and Q-Tip were performing 'Vivrant Thing' in Vegas last night...this n-a Prince walked out on the stage, took the guitar from our guitar player and just started rocking! None of us knew he was there until he popped up on the stage...then the n-a vanished like Batman, LOL!

The sound crew said Prince was in the balcony watching the show from the very beginning (The balcony was closed off). Then when 'Vivrant Thing' came out, he just came backstage and walked out on stage.

None of us knew what was happening, then when we finished the show he was gone LOL!

cutty, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

that is awesome

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

that is Prince!

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

i guess when prince takes a guitar from you, you let him

cutty, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

this n-a

eman, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

this n/a

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

i wonder what would happen if somebody refused to give prince his guitar.

some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

no one's seen tevin campbell in years.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

any excuse to post this:

some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Just another relaxed day at home:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/08/prince_ann_500.jpg

And he talks a bit.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

nice. i am anticipating MPLSOUND.

also watch 'em while you can:

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 9 January 2009 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ the pains taken to avoid his purple majesty's bare cheeks

Et tu, Crut? (The Reverend), Friday, 9 January 2009 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

I'm very curious about what he does with ProTools. Could be really interesting.

Matos W.K., Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

not like it's the first time, he's been using it since 3121 at least

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

earlier i had a crossword clue that was "part of TAFKAP" and even after i had filled in "ARTIST" it still didn't register for a minute

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Utterly of non-interest to anyone anywhere. Unless you are, you know, alive and breathing:

http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/watch-while-you-can-prince-rehearsal-videos-1984/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 February 2010 19:25 (ten years ago) link

Is Matos sittin' down?

iago g., Monday, 15 February 2010 19:50 (ten years ago) link

Cool. Extended "When Does Cry" and "Erotic City" sound good.

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:52 (ten years ago) link

http://twitter.com/PRINCE_OFFICIAL/status/8476096110

kshighway (ksh), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:55 (ten years ago) link

Shhhh, don't tell Prince about the Youtube videos

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:04 (ten years ago) link

Like his little routine in "17 Days."

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2010 22:05 (ten years ago) link

His James Brown rooted and updated moves were/are always fun to watch plus the extra little hopping and running around stuff here

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:29 (ten years ago) link

Cave17 Matt C should be checking these videos out also

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 03:12 (ten years ago) link

Matos, what do you think?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:06 (ten years ago) link

oh dear lord. this is fantastic.

I love how he goes through his moves, knowing they're already mastered, and keeps a more critical eye on the band. what a fun loving task master!

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 03:46 (ten years ago) link

......aaaaand they're gone

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:19 (ten years ago) link

got to see 5 of them, haha. oh well. hopefully someone capped 'em while they were up

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:20 (ten years ago) link

Damn, I only got to watch "When Doves Cry". I hope these can make their way onto Dailymotion or something.

otto günne (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:34 (ten years ago) link

.....and it's awful:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/the_current/features/2010/02/prince-cause-and-effect/index.shtml

man he has so completely and totally lost it.

for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:17 (ten years ago) link

bad wrong false prince

Fetchboy, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:22 (ten years ago) link

wow yeah that is bad

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:31 (ten years ago) link

WTF is Prince using MS Songsmith now?

might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:35 (ten years ago) link

i want to say "nothing can ever erase the work he did in the 80s" but i somehow wonder if this song is actually capable of erasing the master tape to "if i was your girlfriend"

for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:39 (ten years ago) link

With the amount of stuff going on in the background it sounds like he recorded over the top of something. In case anyone is wondering what the reverse bit at ~3:30 is, it's Prince saying "contracts just make you smaller".

might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:41 (ten years ago) link

the problem with all of prince's stuff from the 90s on is that i think he fundamentally misunderstands what made him great at one time.

he's a great minimalist that thinks he's a maximalist.

for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:44 (ten years ago) link

eh he's done some good minimalist stuff since the 90s - Black Sweat, for ex.

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:44 (ten years ago) link

but yeah I agree that in general he's better when he's doing less

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:44 (ten years ago) link

Am I crazy or has Prince benn listening to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=CXCiS2FpmIc&feature=related

mottdeterre, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:47 (ten years ago) link

eh he's done some good minimalist stuff since the 90s - Black Sweat, for ex.

― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 26, 2010 5:44 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

black sweat....and....black sweat...and..um...black sweat ; )

j.k. but yeah that's the only song i've heard in years i thought was GOOD good not just "hey this is pretty good for prince now, i guess"

for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:52 (ten years ago) link

i can't listen to this at work but it's probably for the best.

it's funny, i just listened to mplsound again and thought it wasn't that bad (if you have no expectations except for dad-prince).

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:58 (ten years ago) link

oh what the fuck

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:05 (ten years ago) link

like I could put up with the verse and I could put up with the chorus, but not both together in the same song; that is exactly the wrong thing to do, dude

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:06 (ten years ago) link

i should do a poll, this song versus his vikings playoff song, which sounded like the work of a slightly deranged lutheran church choir director

for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:07 (ten years ago) link

at least the Vikings playoff song was awesome in its insanity; this is boring, mild-mannered shit that thinks it's shit-hot

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:08 (ten years ago) link

replace lutheran w/ witness and you just about summarized prince 2010

I'm so 3000-and-8080 (The Reverend), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:08 (ten years ago) link

j.k. but yeah that's the only song i've heard in years i thought was GOOD good not just "hey this is pretty good for prince now, i guess"

title tracks of musicology and 3121 were pretty good and stripped down imho. there was some other track on musicology that I liked but I'm blanking on it at the moment... but yeah his hit-to-miss ratio is pretty sad.

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:09 (ten years ago) link

The distinctive horn arrangement/hook was written by Eric Leeds years earlier. It was part of his song called Pacemaker. This Pacemaker part was often played live as a horn interpolation in both I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man and It’s Gonna Be A Beautiful Night, in the latter cued by Prince shouting 'Kick some ass' and then accumulating in the hook from Duke Ellington’s Take The ‘A’ Train.

http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Rockhard_In_A_Funky_Place

Take The "A" Train / Pacemaker / I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Live In Utrecht) *****

Milton Parker, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:12 (yesterday) link

Corrected! Dolphy not Monk

"Prince wanted this line for 'Rockhard in a Funky Place,' and I think I had it half done. He wanted something that was really out there. So I kind of completed the line for that."

Leeds says he was inspired by the '60s avant-garde jazz pioneer Eric Dolphy. "This cat was, like, really out there. He was an early influence on me. So I said, 'OK, I'm gonna try to be Eric Dolphy for a minute. It was very angular, almost a mathematical kind of thing. For every time the line went up, I wanted to turn it around and have it come down in a similar fashion, interval-wise."

sorry, just obsessed with that riff! worked it out on keyboard once. quality construction

https://diffuser.fm/prince-rockhard-in-a-funky-place/

Milton Parker, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:21 (yesterday) link

the long mix of "I Wish U Heaven" excepted

part iii of this is top ten Prince for me

sleeve, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:26 (yesterday) link

i think not liking "alphabet st." is incorrect

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:35 (yesterday) link

All the lovesexy singles are top notch

Finally got my sott SDE. Very weird to have it and then to hear these songs I've only known from iffy quality audio for years. Very strange and weirdly I feel guilty, even though I bet prince losyebrd to every jb or Hendrix note he could find out there. Both astonishing to have all this, so accessible now, and a bit sad, as I doubt it would ever have happened if prince was still around. Not everything, in fact a lot of this, isnt going to blow me away, but its just great to hear these dorothy parker horns, even if they are totally unnecessary lol

candyman, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:46 (yesterday) link

Such great horns, just not at all needed here!

candyman, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:47 (yesterday) link

lol yes agreed

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:48 (yesterday) link

what is revelatory is plenty tbh

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:48 (yesterday) link

cf. "when the dawn of the morning comes"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:49 (yesterday) link

I just started listening to it. Skimmed the main album a bit to see if it sounded different, realised I wasn't actually bothered, then went straight to the vault discs

candyman, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:51 (yesterday) link

I'm listening to witness, thinking prince was such a studio rat, the ultimate studio rat maybe, then thinking fuck, he recorded all THIS, maybe out of fear it might not come to him in such volume again, or whatever, and he died in his own studio, which by that point, was also his house. He deserved better.

candyman, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:54 (yesterday) link

Lol never mind that. Thank god this 60s version of big tall wall never came out. Wendy and lisa were often good influences, but sometimes they deserve blame.

candyman, Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:53 (yesterday) link

i am not really a "big tall wall" fan in general

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 September 2020 23:48 (yesterday) link

thinking fuck, he recorded all THIS, maybe out of fear it might not come to him in such volume again, or whatever

not news to anyone obv, but I've been retagging this into the various albums he intended to release, for a listening exercise (downloading "missing" tracks for Camille and from the Crystal Ball compilation, etc) and:

basically between March -> July 1986 he wrote & recorded three versions of the Dream Factory album, ending up with a 1hr 24 double LP
and 30 minutes of songs dropped from early cuts of the album

in six weeks from mid-September 1986, but mostly in a few days, he conceived & recorded the 42min Camille album
(and wrote and recorded most of The Black Album)

across a few sessions, in five months of late '86, he writes and records another 44min of new stuff for the Crystal Ball triple LP (inc. one song for Sign O' The Times when Warners reject the triple)

from less than 13 months across December 1985 to Jan '87, there's two hours of unreleased songs* written and recorded (I'm quarantining the alt. Big Tall Wall and Dorothy Parker here for listening btw)

the box also includes a CDs-worth of worthwhile alternate takes and mixes (I'm adding the Mavis Staples Train and subscription club live Rebirth and Strange Relationship to push this to 81 mins)

...and the box generously remasters half an hour of unnecessary 7" edits for posterity's sake too.



*plus another hour or so of finished songs that the archivist & team whittled away as being lesser!

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 00:54 (twelve hours ago) link

it's exhausting just thinking of listening to all this in album context, let alone writing and recording it

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 00:56 (twelve hours ago) link

tl;dr

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 00:59 (twelve hours ago) link

Or more like tl;dl amirite

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:00 (twelve hours ago) link

Feel like I read the story of the three other unfinished albums a few times after he died and sort of grasped it for a while but now my head is exploding like a Paisley Piñata.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:34 (eleven hours ago) link

fucking hell

his output even crazier than i thought it was when it’s put into context like that

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:34 (eleven hours ago) link

(looks like his only writing for other artists in 1986 was three songs for/with Brownmark's band Mazarati, plus the Bangles recording 1984-written Manic Monday)

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:38 (eleven hours ago) link

and Miles Davis, no? "Can I Play with U?"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:44 (eleven hours ago) link

there was a lot of writing intended for other artists. "emotional pump" is, hilariously, a song for joni mitchell to sing. most of the songs he reportedly wrote for bonnie raitt are here xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:45 (eleven hours ago) link

yeah, iirc four of the unreleased songs on the box were for Bonnie Raitt, and mostly rejected for being too horny

true that Can I Play With U was for/with Miles, I was just looking for any stuff additional to this release

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:49 (eleven hours ago) link

and Miles Davis, no? "Can I Play with U?"

Just read that that was supposed to be on Tutu but Prince and Miles were not happy with it so Prince asked Warner Bros. to take it off.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:51 (eleven hours ago) link

I thought Mitchell had made up "Emotional Pump." I wish she had sung, say, "Power Fantastic," arranged and written in her style.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:52 (eleven hours ago) link

Then after Miles died they requested Prince sweeten it up along with some other tracks for Doo-Bop but he turned them down.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:53 (eleven hours ago) link

i love "emotional pump" so so so much tbh, it's so slinky

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:55 (eleven hours ago) link

yep

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:56 (eleven hours ago) link

sharhp horn arrangement too

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:56 (eleven hours ago) link

*sharp

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:56 (eleven hours ago) link

four of the tracks were recorded for Bonnie Raitt in these versions, but had all been written for other acts:

I Need A Man and Jealous Girl were recorded in 1981 as The Hookers, and not overdubbed with Vanity vocals when that band turned into Vanity 6

Jealous Girl was re-recorded in 1985 for, and rejected by, The Bangles - this version was spruced and saxed up for Bonnie Raitt

There's Something I Like About Being Your Fool was also recorded in 1981, and mixed in the Controversy mix sessions but not used. He also offered it to Jill Jones in 1985

Promise To Be True was recorded in 1983 for Vanity 6's non--existent second album.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 02:02 (eleven hours ago) link

All those tracks feature first-person female protagonist too.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 02:03 (eleven hours ago) link

lol yes they all have alternate lives in the prince catalog xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 28 September 2020 02:03 (eleven hours ago) link

Just read that that was supposed to be on Tutu but Prince and Miles were not happy with it so Prince asked Warner Bros. to take it off.

It sounds a lot like what Miles did on Amandla. So clearly even if the track didn't work, the general aesthetic absolutely did.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 28 September 2020 02:55 (ten hours ago) link

Was the jill jones album recorded in 86?

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Monday, 28 September 2020 04:11 (nine hours ago) link

Yep, but more of it in 1985: http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=Album:_Jill_Jones
So I'll be the jerk: what would you cut from SoTT? For me, a few easy choices: "It", "Hot Thing" and "U Got the Look" (I know, but it grates).

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 28 September 2020 04:33 (eight hours ago) link

Delete from SOTT or the crystal ball triple?

Sott I think is a brilliant set of songs but not a great album (the triple I think would have been even more unwieldy). It doesn't really hang that well (better to listen in vinyl sides, in short 3 song sequences) That's an issue with a lot of prince albums, as he used multiple aesthetics, didnt care much for cohesion, just song quality, but its more pronounced here. I like the camille album as a concept and just as a tight, super funky album so I'd delete all those songs from sott.

candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 06:37 (six hours ago) link

Good point, I have to make myself a playlist of that. All the tracks are out now, right?

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 28 September 2020 07:02 (six hours ago) link

Most of it's on the box - for my compiled version I nicked the full-length Feel U Up ("Long Stroke") from the Partyman single, the original Good Love from Bright Lights, Big City OST, Rockhard In A Funky Place from The Black Album, and used the full-length ("Extended," but actually the original) Shockadelica.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 07:23 (five hours ago) link

Thinking of princes funk out put in this period, I think 87 is a cut off point for his funkiest songs. Housequake, rebirth..., not only did these songs kinda mark and end his 80s funk style (chicken scratch rhythm guitar mainly), but he started channelling JB or more traditional funk lyrics on say, rebirth, or housequake, that p funk ish sort of self reflexive lyric writing I think, writing about being the baddest rather than anything else. Then he would get more openly JB derivative on sexy mf of course, then the work, and musicology (all lousy IMO). Theres also the use of horns. I mean, his horns during this period were generally great, but it does seem like he was inching towards a more traditional, or more expansive setup compared to say, head or lady cab driver. Then again, he was still using drum machines so obv he wasnt going retro, but it was obv more drawing from earlier influences.

candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 07:23 (five hours ago) link

Those little passages of funky guitar at the start of the raspberry beret and u got the look videos are two of his all time funkiest teasers

candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 07:25 (five hours ago) link

Going back to the box set, why is Dave Chappelle in this thing? Did they think Chappelle show fans would buy it?! The book is more notable for being so huge and heavy than what's really in it (not to downplay the essays, they're good, but I dont much like essays in my box sets, I just like liner notes like what Alan Leeds did in the hits compilations). A nice paperback would have been more practical.

candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 07:36 (five hours ago) link

Also I wonder how many units these re releases sell....

candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 07:49 (five hours ago) link

Also - the horn charts alone on Lovesexy make that album a constantly fascinating listen. Incredible considering the short gestation time for the album. It's the peak for me of Prince's musical interplay with his horn players.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 28 September 2020 10:09 (three hours ago) link

The drum machine rework of big tall wall is stone cold classic.

candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 10:11 (three hours ago) link

If you like creepy, obsessive prince that is. Which this era is lacking.

candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 10:14 (three hours ago) link

Lovesexy has always felt like Prince's most blatantly funky album. I mean, you mention chicken scratch guitars and instantly I think of Alphabet Street.

Just a few slices of apple, Servant. Thank you. How delicious. (stevie), Monday, 28 September 2020 10:31 (two hours ago) link

uh, Controversy would like a word

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 28 September 2020 12:56 (twenty minutes ago) link

https://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=Can_I_Play_With_U%3F
This also lists the other three songs that Prince wrote for Miles and what became of them.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 13:02 (fifteen minutes ago) link


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