Pearl Jam - C or D?

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That cover is awful. For fuck's sake.

MikoMcha, Friday, 12 July 2013 11:07 (ten years ago) link

nov 26 Oracle Arena, Oakland - reserved fanclub tickets purchased :D :D

I have been whining for soooooooooo long about when am I going to get a real concert when are they going to tour when when when and now I am v happy

albums are nice but the live show is where it's at for me with these guys

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

Did anyone else call them "Pearl Cream" when they first came out? Oh that was just me and my gang? Ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaD_fvehAaU

how's life, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

I am beyond pissed that they're doing Pittsburgh but not Cleveland.

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

more like hurl spam

ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

^such a joy

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

Loving all the grunge discussion on ILM these days, both here and in the Soundgarden album poll-threads. Tuning in for a proper revival.

Plus, finally got around to check out the O'Brien-remix of "Ten". Packs a good punch.

Mule, Thursday, 18 July 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link

Wow, didn't go last night, but I guess the Pearl Jam show - like Pitchfork and Phish - got screwed up by the thunderstorms. The band played 7 songs, then Wrigley Field was evacuated. But PJ tweeted that it planned to play a full set, and indeed went on at midnight for another two hours. Show ended at 2am, 32-songs and three hours past curfew.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 July 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link

Haha awesome.

I looked at their London setlist from the other night, it was so close to my ideal PJ set. Really hope I get to see the Baltimore show on this tour.

Tavis Emoji (some dude), Saturday, 20 July 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link

some dude, my blood ran cold until i realised the pj show was in london ontario and not london england.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Saturday, 20 July 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

lol sorry, the PJ twitter was just listing off the setlist with #PJLondon so it didn't even occur to me which London it might be

Tavis Emoji (some dude), Saturday, 20 July 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

New track from Lightning Bolt, "Sirens"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXP6TDtW0w

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

Ok, I unabashedly love "Sirens" and it has me really excited for the album. I mean, I know it's Pearl Jam ballad by numbers, but it's the best one they've pulled off in a long time.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 22 September 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

it gets good by the end but the beginning is pretty corny. will prob need to appreciate in the context of the album. kinda love "Mind Your Manners" now, though.

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Sunday, 22 September 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link

first few times i listened to sirens i thought it was crazy corny, but after playing it a bunch of times i gave in and love it now. the album has a number of moments like that - it's their most 'accessible' album in a long time, in my opinion, but it's good.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Sunday, 22 September 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

they've been making "their most 'accessible' album in a long time" for so long that i kinda wish they'd go back to being a little weird again tbh. but i love them, i'm still excited to hear this.

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Sunday, 22 September 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link

this is definitely a not-remotely-weird album. and i was disappointed at first. but it's a grower.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Sunday, 22 September 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link

i like the big chorus & mikey's short guitar solo...verses might take a bit to grown on me, they feel kinda wordy & clunky somehow atm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 September 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

new album streaming on itunes now fyi

'infallible' my favorite track right now -- something faintly 'tremor christ' about it, dunno if it's the bassline or just the beat or something, but it's hooked me!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my but aren't there a lot of pearl jam threads…I suppose this one will do, but if there is another one more suitable, my bad…

from the instant I heard them — opening for RHCP in 1991— I despised this band. Have never ever heard a song by them that did not make my skin crawl. Wrote a takedown of them in 1996 called "pearl Sham" which was, pre-innuhnet, the most controversial thing I ever scribbled.

Awful awful rhythm section. entire band is predicated on a rigorous, almost anti-pleasure foundation, as if rock and roll is serious business, no friviolity, like the Who if they never had a past as fun, hormonally-jacked up teenage hooligans …plus they looked really fucking stupid when they came out…

So this is just to say that while I think the band is dreadful, like many acts I don't like, I find them interesting. So when I turned on VH1 Classic and saw they were playing the cameron Crowe doc on the band (perhaps some reading these words has also been on the mega-Eagles thread where CC's annotations on each song have been reproduced)…I watched most of it. and what I might share from having watched it?

1. Eddie vedder seems kinda stupid. like, other acts I viscerally dislike that approach the altitude of iconic success seem to have a frontperson or a creative axis that appears to be bright. but he seems to be a dopey surfer who thinks he's smart…

2. did not address that they got rid of Dave abrrusezze cuz he was a happy rock drummer who could have found himself playing with Pretty Boy Floyd but hit the fuckin lottery, but had the gall to do an interview with Modern Drummer. How dare he!

3. again, the other guys seem to be nice, super-fuckin' lucky dudes…but yikes! mother love bone? was that andy wood guy any good? seems. from my limited understanding, to be a guy who had his eye on Trixter or Warrant and then got into Jane's addiction or some shit…

veronica moser, Saturday, 26 October 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link

Pearl Jam are one of those bands that I used to love when I was 12-14 or so and now when I hear them I simply cannot believe I used to like them.

mirostones, Sunday, 27 October 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

I'm what Christgau used to say about Elvis Costello: an admiring non-fan. So everything you said except for the part about the bleh rhythm section is wrong, veronica. Sorry.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

and they've written at least a dozen songs that top the Eagles. Now HERE'S a band with good album tracks worth rediscovering.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

definitely

stylings (Matt P), Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link

now that is a gauntlet thrown down! I am truly interested as to which 12 songs by PJ that Herr Sotosyn, a contributor of some note on this forum, are better than the cream of the Henley frey and co.

please enlighten me as I think anyone who believes that is truly fucked and must also be a "PJ is vaguely tethered to some nebulous notion of indie rock/ seattle realness that is intrinsically better than post-Laurel canyon navel-gazing" dead-ender. both paradigms are smug and self-satisfied.

put 'em up! which 12 PJ are better than the bloody corpus of the eagles!

also: does Vedder not seem kinda dumb?

veronica moser, Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link

just as I was writing this, my wife is watching the Portlandia bit where carrie brownstein can't deal with the prospective boyfriend who has an eddie V. tattoo…

Carrie brownstein: a great great comic actress who was in a truly shitty rock band that inexplicably many people thought was the savior of music in the 90s, etc etc…

veronica moser, Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link

ok now we're getting crazy wrong, A DISSUHDENT IS HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

balls, Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link

I don't care whether Vedder is dumb -- that's biographical info. He's a good singer, often the best part of his band.

Faithfull
Wishlist
Sometimes
Worldwide Suicide
Unemployable
Yellow Moon
In My Tree
Given to Fly
Dissident
In Hiding
Last Kiss
The Fixer

There's twelve.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

from my tree of smug self-satisfaction

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link

when albini prank called evan dando and eddie vedder, it was vedder who figured it out.

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 27 October 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link

i love a few of those, but for the most part that list is a pretty bizarre highlight reel imo. soto taste is a wild unpredictable beast as ever.

some dude, Sunday, 27 October 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link

I avoided the first-three-albums-are-awesome line.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

hey i love No Code and Yield, i'd just never single out "Faithfull" or "Sometimes"

some dude, Sunday, 27 October 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

Sometimes might make my top 20. I love it.

Also Veronica I can't fight you with words but let's meet in the parking lot & sort this out :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 October 2013 06:55 (ten years ago) link

hang on you call eddie vedder dumb and yet you're proud of a feature you titled 'pearl Sham'? WE ARE THRU THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Sunday, 27 October 2013 08:03 (ten years ago) link

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some dude, Sunday, 27 October 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link

how about mother love BONE? wait, no. fuck. hmmm.

how's life, Sunday, 27 October 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

was that andy wood guy any good? seems. from my limited understanding, to be a guy who had his eye on Trixter or Warrant and then got into Jane's addiction or some shit…

iirc his idols were freddie mercury and david lee roth.

how's life, Sunday, 27 October 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

I personally don't have much time for MLB beyond Chloe Dancer/Crown Of Thorns tbh.

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Sunday, 27 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link

yeah, other than that they were basically trixter/warrant.

how's life, Sunday, 27 October 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link

but like, talking about stardogs and shit.

how's life, Sunday, 27 October 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link

Im quite disappointed with the new one

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

It's like the two most recent predecessors...a few great barnburners, maybe one good ballad, and totally disposable. I can't figure out if it's disappointing that they've settled into a comfort zone or if it's nice that they've earned the right to do that.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

I prefer its predecessors but I've spun "Getaway" and "Sirens" a fuckton the last two weeks.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link

wtf at this sirens love

da croupier, Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link

oh who am i kidding sirens may well be great for people who's grown and evolved with pearl jam, i don't think i've heard a full-length since no code

da croupier, Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

"Sirens" sounded awful on first listen but has grown on me a lil in the context of both the album and hearing it on the radio. And I've mostly not thought much of downtempo tracks from their later albums.

some dude, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

^^^pretty much exactly how I felt/feel about it

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link


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