Pearl Jam - C or D?

I mean, what kind of fucking egomania would possess a group to pull such a stunt, other than to fleece its fans? It isn't as if Beddie Wedder were Frank Zappa, whose boots from different shows one would want to hear (alright, I confess, I would want to hear). Or that PJ is the Grateful Dead, with an exceedingly loyal and devoted fan-base (any valid criticisms of the band's actual music and the fanbase notwithstanding). I mean, it's as if Foreigner or Foghat decided to dump a shitload of live CDs on the market during their respective heights of popularity. And that's just what Pearl Jam is -- the Foreigner or the Foghat of the Nineties.

OK, honestly? I've never heard them. Twenty ghastly seconds of "Jeremy" and then the whole of that same song on a jukebox and that is knowingly it. I feel rather proud of that. Why did anyone like grunge, can someone remind me?

If I want to listen to Blackfoot, I'll go straight to the source.

Sorry for the pun. I see a lot of folks here sticking to the first impression 'Ten' gave them, which turned them off to the band. I can fully understand that, because I for one can't listen to that record anymore without cringing. But, and I stress this, even as my musical tastes evolved (and I, like many of you I'd bet, must thank the grunge-hype for pointing me in that direction in the first place) I found Pearl Jam to remain interesting, both for their music (evolving from archaic bluesrock - yes, high krustyvalue indeed! - to a more substantial indie-oriented sound that wouldn't look too bad on a GBV or Superchunk) as well as their ethos (quite a popular word here, but you gotta appreciate what they do as a major-label act).

As for the bootleg issue. I think one of the reasons why they did it (apart from making obscene amounts of cash at the cost of about $300 per recording) is that, as Pearl Jam always condoned people taping their shows, there were tons of shit quality recordings going around at high prices. So why the hell not help folks out get a decent recording of a show they were at (or missed, after all these years I still never got to actually see them play live because shows still get sold out within minutes) AND make some cash? Makes sense to me.

In conclusion: classic, classic, classic.

Love them or hate them, this is totally untrue. From their first record on up through the most recent, they've always written lots of highly melodic pop tunes. In terms of music science, you just can't fucking dispute that.

I was actually talking to somebody at the TV On the Radio show this past Friday who was wearing a Pearl Jam t-shirt. He was a big fan and said they still put on a good show (not that I'd ever seen them live anyway).

I guess I'll go with classic.

I'll always have a big soft spot for them, and I revisit them every so often with some fondness.

tvotr and pj are not so far away from each other. except pj have more memorable songs. so far.

xpost - I see little similarity between tvotr and pj. I'm with you on the second sentence, though.

That's for sure.

I suppose you could say that about a lot of "rock" bands, though.

I don't know, I think the guy just likes Pearl Jam, amongst many other types of bands and genres of music. We only discussed Pearl Jam when I noticed his t-shirt. The rest of the time, we talked about any number of other bands.

The Gen-X Bruce Springsteen.

Anyway, Ten has its moments, the best of which, you're right Dan, is "Black." I didn't really follow them much after that.

If anybody is interested, this bod has a really good YT channel in which they sync the soundboard recordings of full gigs to crowd digicam footage, I know there's a lot of this stuff to be found out there but this guy/girl is especially good at putting them together.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn-WEUogXBFbwfm3nmGN3rw

Getting a little too into the rhythms of even flow at the bar ...will bring it down a notch

Nah, take it up a notch buddy

Looks like I get to see them at Wrigley Field, pretty psyched. I've seen the band a bunch but not for a long while, and even though I never put on their records I've always been impressed by them live.

Unrelated, I heard "Hard to Handle" by the Black Crowes today, and parts of it sort of reminded me of a slower, major key version of "Even Flow."

my friend is going to the Home shows in Seattle & i am crazy jealous

They were fine last night but not their best. A friend in the know told me that Seattle - the planning, the playing, the organization - took a lot out of them.

really? My FB page was full of friends in all. Was that the show at which he used Tom Petty's guitar or some shit?

Yeah, among other stunts. Dennis Rodman was there babbling, Vedder played a Petty guitar, Cubs World Series trophy on stage, they covered "Rebel Rebel," etc. I've seen them before and they've been better. They just never gathered momentum. Bolstering my position, I know they had permission to blow past the curfew, which was 11pm, but they stopped more or less right there.

I mean, it wasn't bad! They're a good live act. But this was not the keeper among the sets I've seen them play.

And indeed, band was significantly better tonight, rain delay and all.

Looks like a great setlist both nights, with some fun songs thrown in. Got the itch to attack the PJ DVD collection tonight.

2020 European tour announced - got my London tickets and hopefully grab Krakow ones on Saturday. Merry Christmas to me.

those london ticket prices though :-(
might do amsterdam and might be able to blag stockholm lollapalooza... definitely want to catch a few if i can anyway

they havent had a US tour in SIX YEARS wtf are they doing a european tour :( why do they hate me

Warming up for a US tour?

^^ My guess. Rumor has it a new album will be out next year, so it makes sense. Still leaves time for an appearance at Lolla in August, otherwise maybe Summer 2021 for their big North American tour?

Damn, I haven't seen them since the Backspacer tour in 2010!

ok kneejerk reaction set aside...
i just talked to a fanclub friend, scuttlebutt is that they will ~hopefully~ also announce US tour as well
so i am crossing fingers & toes

🚨NEW ALBUM MARCH 27 🚨
🚨🚨🚨🚨US TOUR🚨🚨🚨🚨

https://pearljam.com

Snagged tix for Oakland on April 18 woooop
Excited!!!

Feel free to commence cynically distancing yrself from my excitement since this is ilm after all

single is called "Dance of the Clairvoyants" so I guess they're finally going prog

Vedder is so cute these days.

“these days”

cute in all decades imo

Album cover is very Rush!

it def is

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Pearl_Jam_-_Gigaton.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Rush_Grace_Under_Pressure.jpg

I follow the nature photographer who shot the PJ cover on Instagram. He has a lot of amazing shots of Arctic wildlife.

https://www.instagram.com/paulnicklen/

would be a pretty cool cover without the heartbeat gimmick

Ottawa, Quebec City and fucking Hamilton? but no Montreal date.

Eh, there will be more. I mean, I could have sworn there was no Chicago date, either.

"US Tour"

***skips everyplace between NY and Nashville

>:(

so they've finally done their "Eminence Front"

https://youtu.be/hdietlvGkds

Well, that was unexpected.

Weird, for some reason I thought Brendan O'Brien had produced every PJ album (except "Binaural"), but no, just most of them. But not this one.

I dig it.

Kind of Muse-y, tbh. But I like it, too.

lol i love this

cameron sounds like he's having a blast

I dig the many-Vedders coda

wow this was unexpected to say the least

I dig it

that was fun! they might as well stretch out a bit at this point

this is so good wtf

when does the prins thomas discomiks drop

Weird and exhilarating to hear Vedder imitate David Byrne singing atop a Sleater-Kinney track from the last album.

oh man i loooove this!

You know, that album cover made me think of "Grace Under Pressure," but the red wave at the top is actually reminiscent of "Permanent Waves."

I've already cooled on this song after a handful of listens, but still intrigued by the idea of a curveball PJ album in 2020. I'm not sure I ever listened to Lightning Bolt more than one time, if that.

i liked Lightning Bolt a lot
(not as much as avocado tho)

Backspacer got a lot of plays from me, but even that one I haven't spun in years.

No Code/Yield is their real sweet spot imo.

00’s highlight is def Avocado, there’s literally not a bad song on the whole album

weird to realize Eddie Vedder is older than Mick Jagger was when the Stones released Bridges to Babylon.