Pearl Jam - C or D?

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Even though they are guilty of serious crimes (like being the main influence for two whole generations of crap bands), I still find myself buying their records. Always a few gems to be found in there, especially in their latter work. So yes, I'm coming out as a sympathiser who can indeed spell the word 'pedestrian'. Anyone else?

Alacrán, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I used to write "Kill Eddie Vedder" on things in high school. Dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud. When the kids on a given afterschool special start up a rock band and the guy rips into his really wailing guitar solo that's what Pearl Jam's solos sound like. Godawful 'soulful' toilet-seat voice. I only like hard rock singers who sing like women. And Ian Gillan.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Surprisingly to my own damn self I become to like certain Pearl Jam songs. I wish I was the christmas tree... The stuff I hear lately, their recentish stuff, is good and completely different from the stuff I remember from when they were all over the media, which I hated. I still think Eddie Vedder's a phony baloney, though and I still own nothing by them.

Nude Spock, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I have a friend who swears by Vedder and his ethos. It remains rather mysterious to me.

turner, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

beautiful man and beautiful s inger done damage by crap quality of fans, slef included. no code = most brilliant LP

Geoff, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i don't worship them like I did when i was, jeez, 11 years old, but I maintain that there are strains of greatness throughout, from "Porch" to "Grievance". they've only gotten better, if still very inconsistent. and I do hold a big candle for the Jack Irons era, No Code was amazing in spots. but I wouldn't hold it against anyone for still hating them with a passion all these years since Ten... i'm sure some people will never get over being soured by some of the stunts they pulled early on. but i'm happy with them making better and better records with less and less sales each time

al, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

No tunes! No proper tunes! That has always been my problem with the horrible PJ. The complete absence of melody, the bad guitar sound, Vedder's out of it gr(h)owl. Their songs seem patched together. Highly unappealing. Krusty fans, as suggested above. Or those regular guys who lift their fists when Rage Against the Machine is on. Pearl Jam makes me want to discriminate against people and turn into a musical fascist of the purist kind. Bad thing. I'm not like that. Pearl Jam should sack the Ved and start rehearsing funk covers, hire a black girl like Martina on vocals and put out a soul record. Maybe that would make them interesting.

Simon, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. Their albums the last few years have been spotty, but as you said, there always seems to be gems worked in. Regardless, their live shows are legendary which is precisely why they usually sell out 2 nights in most metropolitan cities when they tour, despite poor album sales. I hadn't paid much attention to them for years, (although I always wound up hearing the newer stuff thanks to friends or the public library)until I bought their live Seattle show (11/6/00) which is stunning. I picked up the Vegas show too (10/22/00) which is also very good.

Mark M, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

More of a charcoal-on-fax-paper drawing of a band than a band. And they don't even know it themselves.

dave q, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Rod McKuen and Savoy Brown would've been a terrible combination even in 1973.

dave q, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, I'll be the one to say it: Ten is an excellent Rock album. I wonder where my cassette is.

Jordan, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Do their songs rhyme yet?

Kris, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

"turn into," Simon?

Josh, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

What kind of crap egomania would possess a group to release a half- zillion live CDs? Since I don't give a rat's ass about PJ or their music, and I think that Beddie Wetter is a twat, I haven't actually been sussed to listen to any of these CDs. Nor do I think I have to, if their previous output is at all indicative -- I can't imagine that a Pearl Jam show in, say, Warsaw is all that different from one in Philadelphia, save from Beddie Wetter's tedious on-stage patter.

I mean, what kind of fucking egomania would possess a group to pull such a stunt, other than to fleece its fans? It isn't as if Beddie Wedder were Frank Zappa, whose boots from different shows one would want to hear (alright, I confess, I would want to hear). Or that PJ is the Grateful Dead, with an exceedingly loyal and devoted fan-base (any valid criticisms of the band's actual music and the fanbase notwithstanding). I mean, it's as if Foreigner or Foghat decided to dump a shitload of live CDs on the market during their respective heights of popularity. And that's just what Pearl Jam is -- the Foreigner or the Foghat of the Nineties.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 18 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Right on mate. The Tad said it all. I watched "Almost Famous" earlier on, and I love this (extremely rockist) film, however I could never understand why the band is so fucking disgustingly bad. The film's Stillwater actually sounds like Pearl Jam, but even more amateurish- sounding. An incomprehensible choice.

Simon, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and I repeat, Josh, I'm not like that (trying to sound like a Strokes record, haha).

Simon, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

It's funny, the instant I saw this subject the only thing I could think was "Dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud dud." Couldn't even think of a suitably hateful adjective to describe them. And then that turned out to be the first response...

Justyn Dillingham, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh come on, Pearl Jam? You're just taking the piss now people.

OK, honestly? I've never heard them. Twenty ghastly seconds of "Jeremy" and then the whole of that same song on a jukebox and that is knowingly it. I feel rather proud of that. Why did anyone like grunge, can someone remind me?

Tom, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Crikey, Pearl Jam eh? (what were we thinking of etc etc) I have friends who like Pearl Jam, and to be totally honest despite them being my friends I can't help but take the piss, I mean, Pearl Jam, for God's sake...

DG, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Pearl Jam are of zero interest, but I quite like Vedder's singing on 'Against The Seventies' from the Mike Watt alb.

Andrew L, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Yawn.

If I want to listen to Blackfoot, I'll go straight to the source.

Dave225, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

OK, OK, I yield.

Sorry for the pun. I see a lot of folks here sticking to the first impression 'Ten' gave them, which turned them off to the band. I can fully understand that, because I for one can't listen to that record anymore without cringing. But, and I stress this, even as my musical tastes evolved (and I, like many of you I'd bet, must thank the grunge-hype for pointing me in that direction in the first place) I found Pearl Jam to remain interesting, both for their music (evolving from archaic bluesrock - yes, high krustyvalue indeed! - to a more substantial indie-oriented sound that wouldn't look too bad on a GBV or Superchunk) as well as their ethos (quite a popular word here, but you gotta appreciate what they do as a major-label act).

As for the bootleg issue. I think one of the reasons why they did it (apart from making obscene amounts of cash at the cost of about $300 per recording) is that, as Pearl Jam always condoned people taping their shows, there were tons of shit quality recordings going around at high prices. So why the hell not help folks out get a decent recording of a show they were at (or missed, after all these years I still never got to actually see them play live because shows still get sold out within minutes) AND make some cash? Makes sense to me.

Alacrán, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

What exactly is a "toilet seat voice," Sundar? Does it sound like the grunts one makes on the can when one is constipated? If it is, I agree that that's a pretty apt description of Mr. Vedder's singing.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

"toilet seat voice" = voice your toilet seat makes when it talks to you. What? Your toilet seat doesn't talk to you?

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Before this all becomes totally silly, let me chime in that Pearl Jam are an excellent rock band. The players has a great chemistry, most of the albums are packed full of classics, and Vedder's pipes are quite versatile, though I wish he'd do a bit more yelling these days; both he and Chris Cornell have really softened with age, haven't they.

In conclusion: classic, classic, classic.

Jack Redelfs, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
What is it that people like about Pearl Jam? The rock beat? That "grungy" guitaur? Or the heartfelt lyrics? Why does PJ irritate me like my place of employment? Is it because they are bland like khakis? Where is the beef?

Worker Drone, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Their best song to date is "Black". That's the only song of theirs that I would actively seek out.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
...wait! I just got it! "Pearl Jam"! Eeeeew. hahahaha!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

No tunes! No proper tunes! That has always been my problem with the horrible PJ. The complete absence of melody,

Love them or hate them, this is totally untrue. From their first record on up through the most recent, they've always written lots of highly melodic pop tunes. In terms of music science, you just can't fucking dispute that.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

but...their name! It means jism!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"Oceans" is a good song. I thought "Vs." was a good album for its time. I haven't heard anything since "Vitalogy".

I was actually talking to somebody at the TV On the Radio show this past Friday who was wearing a Pearl Jam t-shirt. He was a big fan and said they still put on a good show (not that I'd ever seen them live anyway).

I guess I'll go with classic.

kickitcricket, Monday, 3 May 2004 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

So...did everybody else get the joke 15 years ago?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't trip over the flannel shirt on your way out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Vitalogy is their best record - it has the highest ratio of great songs (Corduroy, Not For You, Tremor Christ, Whipping, Satan's Bed, Better Man) to dross (Nothingman, Stupid Mop, Aye Davanita). No Code is pretty good too, about the same level of quality as the best stuff from Vitalogy, but with less cohesion as an album. There's pretty good music scattered throughout their catalog, but they've recorded a lot of clunkers over the years. They've been experiencing a bad case of diminishing returns from Yield onwards - for every good pop song they write now, they do about five or six songs which just drag along and sound very rote and formulaic.

I'll always have a big soft spot for them, and I revisit them every so often with some fondness.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I was actually talking to somebody at the TV On the Radio show this past Friday who was wearing a Pearl Jam t-shirt. He was a big fan and said they still put on a good show

tvotr and pj are not so far away from each other. except pj have more memorable songs. so far.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I had no problem with Sundar's "toilet seat voice" catchphrase. I'm not sure why, but that description made perfect sense the first time I read it.
tvotr and pj are not so far away from each other. except pj have more memorable songs. so far.

xpost - I see little similarity between tvotr and pj. I'm with you on the second sentence, though.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't explain it, but I think that there is some aesthetic crossover between TV On The Radio and Pearl Jam. I think it's easy to imagine them being fans of one another, of there being significant crossover in their fanbases. They should tour together.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

they both have a somewhat drone-y style of songwriting, they're both jammy onstage (or so i've been told about tvotr, whom i've never seen), but in general i'm with matthew: can't quite explain it, but the aesthetic crossover is def. there.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

tvotr and pj are not so far away from each other. except pj have more memorable songs. so far.

That's for sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Eh, I don't know - there's a lot of PJ songs which rely on vocal drone, but those are mostly songs from their first record or two. They have a lot of songs which are just straight-out melodic, like catchy boomer rock stuff.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, Pearl Jam was the only grunge band I didn't really like. Maybe its Vedder's growing desire to be just like BONO

Cacaman Flores, Monday, 3 May 2004 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

"I think that there is some aesthetic crossover between TV On The Radio and Pearl Jam"

I suppose you could say that about a lot of "rock" bands, though.

I don't know, I think the guy just likes Pearl Jam, amongst many other types of bands and genres of music. We only discussed Pearl Jam when I noticed his t-shirt. The rest of the time, we talked about any number of other bands.

kickitcricket, Monday, 3 May 2004 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw that Madison Square Garden show that they released on DVD when it was on the Pay Per View freeview thing on my parents' satellite cable, and it was one of the most static performances I've ever seen. It wasn't just the way it was shot - I think that they (and Vedder in particular) just stopped being visually dynamic a long, long time ago. They play lots of songs and play generally strong performances, but the stage show is just non-existant. In that sense, there is absolutely nothing about Eddie Vedder (in terms of being a musician and a performer) which is at all like Bono. Bono is the biggest ham in the world!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

If Vedder wants to be just like anyone, I suspect that it is post-Clash Joe Strummer, or Pete Townshend.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

But you know what Pearl Jam really is?

The Gen-X Bruce Springsteen.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Weirdly I don't mind them so much now. I sometimes have fond memories of "Glorified G" and "Rearview Mirror".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

classic.

uh (eetface), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

c-l-a-s-s-i-c. "No Code" is the most underrated album of the 90s.

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Toilet-seat voice = voice like you're straining to squeeze one out?

Anyway, Ten has its moments, the best of which, you're right Dan, is "Black." I didn't really follow them much after that.

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw them for the first time at Lollapalooza's Miami date. Vedder came up to the mike, saw the size of the crowd, and cracked, "Wow. Guess there's a real hurricane in Miami after all." The crowd roared, not having a clue.

Two days later Hurricane Andrew happened.

Never underestimate Vedder's knowledge of Florida meterology.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 May 2021 19:05 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

I guess Eddie Vedder has a new solo album? Single is fine, but I was intrigued by the band he got together for a live show recently.

The Earthlings are formed by former Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist Josh Klinghoffer (now a Pearl Jam touring band member) and producer Andrew Watt on guitars, Pino Palladino from the Who on bass, Glen Hansard on guitars and backing vocals and RHCP’s Chad Smith on drums .

Pino! And I did a double take at the news that Klinghoffer is yet another new touring member of Pearl Jam:

Josh made his live debut with Pearl Jam during the band’s concert at the Sea.Hear.Now. Festival, where he played keyboards, guitars, percussion, tambourine and also contributed backing vocals, especially on the new songs from Gigaton.

At last someone is finally handling all that extra tambourine that Vedder has struggled with.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 02:14 (six months ago) link

he doesnt struggle w tambourines as much as he routinely beats the living shit out of them (especially if he gets his hands on two at once)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXIOPlerkok

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 November 2021 02:27 (six months ago) link

So is that Boom guy who you could never actually hear apart from the one cover song still in the touring band?

Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 10:46 (six months ago) link

I think he's still there, too! Maybe they can all play tambourines together.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:08 (six months ago) link

lol and that's totally otm, btw. the last time I saw Pearl Jam, two nights, I literally forgot he was there until his showcase.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:09 (six months ago) link

He and the guy from Foo Fighters should team up and make minimal, isolationist ambient records.

Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:14 (six months ago) link

Time to repost this channel of heroic YT PJ fan-nerdery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BetterThanN

Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:15 (six months ago) link

Oh dear.. let's try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos

Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:15 (six months ago) link

*sigh* jfc, okay it's a channel called BetterThanNothing that syncs up the PJ live bootleg series to concert fan footage w/ very high standards.

Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:17 (six months ago) link

I often imagine when long-term v successful bands like PJ start adding extra touring members it's more about the mood and vibes they bring on the road/backstage than anything musical

I can believe that. Just to shake things up a bit, allow for some fresh faces.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:36 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

saw them live for the first time last night. Matt Cameron has COVID so they had drum duties split between josh klinghoffer and some local drum teacher. And this high school kid who’s in some viral band came out and drummed for a song too.

It was fucking amazing. I wasn’t a huge fan or anything before but I’m kind of in love with Eddie Vedder right now.

Also mike mccready looked exactly like Gary numan looks like now.. hair and wardrobe

brimstead, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:42 (one week ago) link

they closed with a cover of “baba o Riley” in honor of The Who playing Cincinnati for the first time since 79

brimstead, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:42 (one week ago) link

haaha, I was there too. I'd only seen Pearl Jam once before, opening for the Stones (in Oakland, which Eddie mentioned last night too) and this blew that out of the water. So fun with the different drummers.

I couldn't believe how old Mccready and Gossard look (Gossard looks like a project manager for Microsoft now). Granted I haven't really paid attention to what these guys look like in a hundred years but Mccready is only six years older than me and looks like John Slattery.

Pearl Jam was in Oakland last night and their drummer tested positive for COVID but the show went on and they invited a local kid to sit in with them and it looks like he did an amazing job pic.twitter.com/0ifIek4Iwj

— Wu-Tang Is For The Children (@WUTangKids) May 14, 2022

akm, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:46 (one week ago) link

this was also the largest collecton of drunk meatheads I've been around in many years. Heading to BART a woman had pissed herself and was holding up her husband who was so drunk I honestly thought at first he had a disability or something.

akm, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:48 (one week ago) link

we were at the 1st oakland show the night before, which was more of a greatest hits playlist - incredible how they just threw everything at the wall to try & do the show anyway - and the crowd was so happy to have them back that it went over like gangbusters. definitely once in a lifetime show.

that 2nd night setlist gave me serious FOMO though lol

the local drum teacher = richard stuverud who has played in all of Ament’s sideprojects, played drums on the ‘nothingman’ demo for Vitalogy; i think he was in the Fastbacks for a couple of years (?). seems like a cool guy + total mensch <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:51 (one week ago) link

also watching Eddie doing more “host” duties to fill the lulls between all the constant changeovers was kinda funny to see, lots of stories & interaction with the crowd, they must have all been so stressed out <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 19:09 (one week ago) link

A pal of mine is friends w/klinghoffer and went to a recent show to support him; he didn’t really know what to expect from the band (he only knows the first few PJ albums) but said they were really great.

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:14 (one week ago) link

you never really know what you're going to get.

one week I went to two different cities to see them over a span of three days. one night I got a cover of "Sonic Reducer" and a bunch of mid-to-late era stuff, the other night it was basically Ten-Vitalogy material for the most part.

I feel like I got two great distinct shows.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:20 (one week ago) link

yeah there’s pretty much nothing they can’t do as a band, especially with Cameron on the kit. fans are kinda spoiled with the richness in their setlists

every show i see makes me want to see 5 more

but $150 face value (!) for the Sacto show means i will not be seeing them in my hometown which sucks

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:27 (one week ago) link

I really wish they didn't look so middle management. I've assumed for a while their "aging rock star" aesthetic is influenced by The Who in the 80s/90s but imo it does not look cool at all. But yea I love them dearly.

billstevejim, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:11 (one week ago) link

a total noob observation here but I LOVE Eddie’s move where he smoothly flips the mike stand back up with his foot after knocking it down

brimstead, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:59 (one week ago) link

what’s wrong w their look? they look like old skater dads. i like it.

the mike kick trick gets funnier as he gets drunker - at our show he was a wine bottle deep, tried the kick flip twice & eventually had to bend down & stand it up lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2022 19:40 (one week ago) link

haha that's good

never listen to pj at home but have seen them live 3 or 4 times, they rock

so cool for that drummer kid sitting in!

corrs unplugged, Monday, 16 May 2022 07:16 (six days ago) link

oof Ament tested positive now too, so cancelling some shows.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:59 (four days ago) link

I saw them back in 2000, the tour when they were releasing CDs of every show. They were good, not great, but tbf I had shitty seats.

I was working in Tower Records when Ten came out. Total classic. They've shown flashes of brilliance since then, but imho the only album that comes close as an entire album to their debut is Yield. So, on balance, one classic album, the rest good to great. Near classic?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:07 (four days ago) link

so bummed about Jeff

we rolled the dice on keeping our Oakland tix vs swapping for Sacramento, which we decided not to do in the end. kinda lucky we got to see them

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:28 (four days ago) link

xpost also OMG jimbeaux i disagree on so many levels! Avocado, No Code, Gigaton, all qualify as legit great albums. in this TED talk I will…

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:31 (four days ago) link

LOL No Code is pretty solid.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:32 (four days ago) link

Ten isn't even in my top three lol

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:34 (four days ago) link

As a debut, it was smashing. In 1991-92, I played it more than I played Nevermind.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:35 (four days ago) link

well sure, in the absence of other pj albums i played it all the time too lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:23 (four days ago) link

vitalogy >>>>>>

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:24 (four days ago) link

vitalogy is great, i love all the full length songs so much but man those interlude songs still annoy the fuck out of me. HAYFOXYMOPHANDLEMAMA is still very triggering

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:29 (four days ago) link

It has its moments--"Better Man" and "Corduroy" are stone classics--but a lot of it is just self-indulgent wankery (literally, if you read the liner notes).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:33 (four days ago) link

no way dude - besides which corduroy is the most lyrically self indulgent song on there lol (it’s great too, i agree)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:41 (four days ago) link

Stupid Mop

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:42 (four days ago) link

vitalogy >>>>>>

alpine static, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:49 (four days ago) link

Looking back at the playlist for that 2000 show, I gotta say it was incredibly good.

Release
Corduroy
Insignificance
Animal
Hail Hail
Nothing as It Seems
Rival
Given to Fly
Light Years
Do the Evolution
Even Flow
In Hiding
Daughter
Better Man
Nothingman
Leatherman
Grievance
Rearviewmirror

Encore:
Once
Breakerfall
Immortality
Crazy Mary
(Victoria Williams cover)
Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
Porch
Fuckin' Up
(Neil Young & Crazy Horse cover)

Encore 2:
Yellow Ledbetter

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:55 (four days ago) link

Sonic Youth opened.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:08 (four days ago) link

lol I saw that tour too, in Tampa FL. my first Pearl Jam show.

we got State of Love and Trust and Soldier of Love.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:36 (four days ago) link

also registered to vote at that show. so I could waste my vote on Nader months later.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:36 (four days ago) link

i like those 00’s shows, the binaural tracks sound so great live esp Insignificance

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:37 (four days ago) link

I was working in Tower Records when Ten came out. Total classic. They've shown flashes of brilliance since then, but imho the only album that comes close as an entire album to their debut is Yield. So, on balance, one classic album, the rest good to great. Near classic?

I'd say No Code is their best, and is an incredible record, and that Yield, Vs and Vitalogy are just behind it. Gigaton is excellent, too, and I don't think they've put out a bad or even average album, though I wasn't sold on Lightning Bolt.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, 19 May 2022 08:21 (three days ago) link

love it when they play Fuckin' Up

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 19 May 2022 08:45 (three days ago) link

Binaural is a great album; I'm a Tchad Blake fan though so the weird flange and reverb effects on the drums are like a warm blanket to me. I'm sure some people hate it the way people hate Froom.

akm, Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:54 (three days ago) link

I thought Binaural was their weakest album up to that point.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:47 (three days ago) link

i didnt take to it at first, and it was one i didnt play much for a long time, but it has held up so well, there’s really not a bad song on the whole thing, and wuite a few tracks are faves now. Thin Air is so good, and i love Sleight of Hand

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:39 (three days ago) link

I went back and listened to the show I attended. It sounds much better than I remembered. I really did have shitty seats.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:41 (three days ago) link


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