― Alacrán, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Nude Spock, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― turner, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Geoff, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― al, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Simon, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark M, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Kris, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Josh, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
I mean, what kind of fucking egomania would possess a group to pull such a stunt, other than to fleece its fans? It isn't as if Beddie Wedder were Frank Zappa, whose boots from different shows one would want to hear (alright, I confess, I would want to hear). Or that PJ is the Grateful Dead, with an exceedingly loyal and devoted fan-base (any valid criticisms of the band's actual music and the fanbase notwithstanding). I mean, it's as if Foreigner or Foghat decided to dump a shitload of live CDs on the market during their respective heights of popularity. And that's just what Pearl Jam is -- the Foreigner or the Foghat of the Nineties.
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 18 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Simon, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
OK, honestly? I've never heard them. Twenty ghastly seconds of "Jeremy" and then the whole of that same song on a jukebox and that is knowingly it. I feel rather proud of that. Why did anyone like grunge, can someone remind me?
― Tom, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― DG, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew L, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
If I want to listen to Blackfoot, I'll go straight to the source.
― Dave225, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
Sorry for the pun. I see a lot of folks here sticking to the first impression 'Ten' gave them, which turned them off to the band. I can fully understand that, because I for one can't listen to that record anymore without cringing. But, and I stress this, even as my musical tastes evolved (and I, like many of you I'd bet, must thank the grunge-hype for pointing me in that direction in the first place) I found Pearl Jam to remain interesting, both for their music (evolving from archaic bluesrock - yes, high krustyvalue indeed! - to a more substantial indie-oriented sound that wouldn't look too bad on a GBV or Superchunk) as well as their ethos (quite a popular word here, but you gotta appreciate what they do as a major-label act).
As for the bootleg issue. I think one of the reasons why they did it (apart from making obscene amounts of cash at the cost of about $300 per recording) is that, as Pearl Jam always condoned people taping their shows, there were tons of shit quality recordings going around at high prices. So why the hell not help folks out get a decent recording of a show they were at (or missed, after all these years I still never got to actually see them play live because shows still get sold out within minutes) AND make some cash? Makes sense to me.
― Alacrán, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
In conclusion: classic, classic, classic.
― Jack Redelfs, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Worker Drone, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Love them or hate them, this is totally untrue. From their first record on up through the most recent, they've always written lots of highly melodic pop tunes. In terms of music science, you just can't fucking dispute that.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
I was actually talking to somebody at the TV On the Radio show this past Friday who was wearing a Pearl Jam t-shirt. He was a big fan and said they still put on a good show (not that I'd ever seen them live anyway).
I guess I'll go with classic.
― kickitcricket, Monday, 3 May 2004 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I'll always have a big soft spot for them, and I revisit them every so often with some fondness.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link
tvotr and pj are not so far away from each other. except pj have more memorable songs. so far.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost - I see little similarity between tvotr and pj. I'm with you on the second sentence, though.
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
That's for sure.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cacaman Flores, Monday, 3 May 2004 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
I suppose you could say that about a lot of "rock" bands, though.
I don't know, I think the guy just likes Pearl Jam, amongst many other types of bands and genres of music. We only discussed Pearl Jam when I noticed his t-shirt. The rest of the time, we talked about any number of other bands.
― kickitcricket, Monday, 3 May 2004 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
The Gen-X Bruce Springsteen.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― uh (eetface), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, Ten has its moments, the best of which, you're right Dan, is "Black." I didn't really follow them much after that.
― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I saw them for the first time at Lollapalooza's Miami date. Vedder came up to the mike, saw the size of the crowd, and cracked, "Wow. Guess there's a real hurricane in Miami after all." The crowd roared, not having a clue.
Two days later Hurricane Andrew happened.
Never underestimate Vedder's knowledge of Florida meterology.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 May 2021 19:05 (one year ago) link
I guess Eddie Vedder has a new solo album? Single is fine, but I was intrigued by the band he got together for a live show recently.
The Earthlings are formed by former Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist Josh Klinghoffer (now a Pearl Jam touring band member) and producer Andrew Watt on guitars, Pino Palladino from the Who on bass, Glen Hansard on guitars and backing vocals and RHCP’s Chad Smith on drums .
Pino! And I did a double take at the news that Klinghoffer is yet another new touring member of Pearl Jam:
Josh made his live debut with Pearl Jam during the band’s concert at the Sea.Hear.Now. Festival, where he played keyboards, guitars, percussion, tambourine and also contributed backing vocals, especially on the new songs from Gigaton.
At last someone is finally handling all that extra tambourine that Vedder has struggled with.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 02:14 (six months ago) link
he doesnt struggle w tambourines as much as he routinely beats the living shit out of them (especially if he gets his hands on two at once)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXIOPlerkok
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 November 2021 02:27 (six months ago) link
So is that Boom guy who you could never actually hear apart from the one cover song still in the touring band?
― Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 10:46 (six months ago) link
I think he's still there, too! Maybe they can all play tambourines together.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:08 (six months ago) link
lol and that's totally otm, btw. the last time I saw Pearl Jam, two nights, I literally forgot he was there until his showcase.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:09 (six months ago) link
He and the guy from Foo Fighters should team up and make minimal, isolationist ambient records.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:14 (six months ago) link
Time to repost this channel of heroic YT PJ fan-nerdery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BetterThanN
― Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:15 (six months ago) link
Oh dear.. let's try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos
*sigh* jfc, okay it's a channel called BetterThanNothing that syncs up the PJ live bootleg series to concert fan footage w/ very high standards.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:17 (six months ago) link
I often imagine when long-term v successful bands like PJ start adding extra touring members it's more about the mood and vibes they bring on the road/backstage than anything musical
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Friday, 5 November 2021 12:23 (six months ago) link
I can believe that. Just to shake things up a bit, allow for some fresh faces.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:36 (six months ago) link
saw them live for the first time last night. Matt Cameron has COVID so they had drum duties split between josh klinghoffer and some local drum teacher. And this high school kid who’s in some viral band came out and drummed for a song too. It was fucking amazing. I wasn’t a huge fan or anything before but I’m kind of in love with Eddie Vedder right now.Also mike mccready looked exactly like Gary numan looks like now.. hair and wardrobe
― brimstead, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:42 (one week ago) link
they closed with a cover of “baba o Riley” in honor of The Who playing Cincinnati for the first time since 79
haaha, I was there too. I'd only seen Pearl Jam once before, opening for the Stones (in Oakland, which Eddie mentioned last night too) and this blew that out of the water. So fun with the different drummers.
I couldn't believe how old Mccready and Gossard look (Gossard looks like a project manager for Microsoft now). Granted I haven't really paid attention to what these guys look like in a hundred years but Mccready is only six years older than me and looks like John Slattery.
Pearl Jam was in Oakland last night and their drummer tested positive for COVID but the show went on and they invited a local kid to sit in with them and it looks like he did an amazing job pic.twitter.com/0ifIek4Iwj— Wu-Tang Is For The Children (@WUTangKids) May 14, 2022
― akm, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:46 (one week ago) link
this was also the largest collecton of drunk meatheads I've been around in many years. Heading to BART a woman had pissed herself and was holding up her husband who was so drunk I honestly thought at first he had a disability or something.
― akm, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:48 (one week ago) link
we were at the 1st oakland show the night before, which was more of a greatest hits playlist - incredible how they just threw everything at the wall to try & do the show anyway - and the crowd was so happy to have them back that it went over like gangbusters. definitely once in a lifetime show. that 2nd night setlist gave me serious FOMO though lol the local drum teacher = richard stuverud who has played in all of Ament’s sideprojects, played drums on the ‘nothingman’ demo for Vitalogy; i think he was in the Fastbacks for a couple of years (?). seems like a cool guy + total mensch <3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:51 (one week ago) link
also watching Eddie doing more “host” duties to fill the lulls between all the constant changeovers was kinda funny to see, lots of stories & interaction with the crowd, they must have all been so stressed out <3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 19:09 (one week ago) link
A pal of mine is friends w/klinghoffer and went to a recent show to support him; he didn’t really know what to expect from the band (he only knows the first few PJ albums) but said they were really great.
― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:14 (one week ago) link
you never really know what you're going to get.
one week I went to two different cities to see them over a span of three days. one night I got a cover of "Sonic Reducer" and a bunch of mid-to-late era stuff, the other night it was basically Ten-Vitalogy material for the most part.
I feel like I got two great distinct shows.
― Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:20 (one week ago) link
yeah there’s pretty much nothing they can’t do as a band, especially with Cameron on the kit. fans are kinda spoiled with the richness in their setlistsevery show i see makes me want to see 5 morebut $150 face value (!) for the Sacto show means i will not be seeing them in my hometown which sucks
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:27 (one week ago) link
I really wish they didn't look so middle management. I've assumed for a while their "aging rock star" aesthetic is influenced by The Who in the 80s/90s but imo it does not look cool at all. But yea I love them dearly.
― billstevejim, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:11 (one week ago) link
a total noob observation here but I LOVE Eddie’s move where he smoothly flips the mike stand back up with his foot after knocking it down
― brimstead, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:59 (one week ago) link
what’s wrong w their look? they look like old skater dads. i like it. the mike kick trick gets funnier as he gets drunker - at our show he was a wine bottle deep, tried the kick flip twice & eventually had to bend down & stand it up lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2022 19:40 (one week ago) link
haha that's good
never listen to pj at home but have seen them live 3 or 4 times, they rock
so cool for that drummer kid sitting in!
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 16 May 2022 07:16 (six days ago) link
oof Ament tested positive now too, so cancelling some shows.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:59 (four days ago) link
I saw them back in 2000, the tour when they were releasing CDs of every show. They were good, not great, but tbf I had shitty seats.
I was working in Tower Records when Ten came out. Total classic. They've shown flashes of brilliance since then, but imho the only album that comes close as an entire album to their debut is Yield. So, on balance, one classic album, the rest good to great. Near classic?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:07 (four days ago) link
so bummed about Jeffwe rolled the dice on keeping our Oakland tix vs swapping for Sacramento, which we decided not to do in the end. kinda lucky we got to see them
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:28 (four days ago) link
xpost also OMG jimbeaux i disagree on so many levels! Avocado, No Code, Gigaton, all qualify as legit great albums. in this TED talk I will…
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:31 (four days ago) link
LOL No Code is pretty solid.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:32 (four days ago) link
Ten isn't even in my top three lol
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:34 (four days ago) link
As a debut, it was smashing. In 1991-92, I played it more than I played Nevermind.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:35 (four days ago) link
well sure, in the absence of other pj albums i played it all the time too lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:23 (four days ago) link
vitalogy >>>>>>
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:24 (four days ago) link
vitalogy is great, i love all the full length songs so much but man those interlude songs still annoy the fuck out of me. HAYFOXYMOPHANDLEMAMA is still very triggering
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:29 (four days ago) link
It has its moments--"Better Man" and "Corduroy" are stone classics--but a lot of it is just self-indulgent wankery (literally, if you read the liner notes).
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:33 (four days ago) link
no way dude - besides which corduroy is the most lyrically self indulgent song on there lol (it’s great too, i agree)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:41 (four days ago) link
Stupid Mop
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:42 (four days ago) link
― alpine static, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:49 (four days ago) link
Looking back at the playlist for that 2000 show, I gotta say it was incredibly good.
ReleaseCorduroyInsignificanceAnimalHail HailNothing as It SeemsRivalGiven to FlyLight YearsDo the EvolutionEven FlowIn HidingDaughterBetter ManNothingmanLeathermanGrievanceRearviewmirror
Encore:OnceBreakerfallImmortalityCrazy Mary(Victoria Williams cover)Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small TownPorchFuckin' Up(Neil Young & Crazy Horse cover)
Encore 2:Yellow Ledbetter
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:55 (four days ago) link
Sonic Youth opened.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:08 (four days ago) link
lol I saw that tour too, in Tampa FL. my first Pearl Jam show.
we got State of Love and Trust and Soldier of Love.
― Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:36 (four days ago) link
also registered to vote at that show. so I could waste my vote on Nader months later.
i like those 00’s shows, the binaural tracks sound so great live esp Insignificance
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:37 (four days ago) link
I'd say No Code is their best, and is an incredible record, and that Yield, Vs and Vitalogy are just behind it. Gigaton is excellent, too, and I don't think they've put out a bad or even average album, though I wasn't sold on Lightning Bolt.
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, 19 May 2022 08:21 (three days ago) link
love it when they play Fuckin' Up
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 19 May 2022 08:45 (three days ago) link
Binaural is a great album; I'm a Tchad Blake fan though so the weird flange and reverb effects on the drums are like a warm blanket to me. I'm sure some people hate it the way people hate Froom.
― akm, Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:54 (three days ago) link
I thought Binaural was their weakest album up to that point.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:47 (three days ago) link
i didnt take to it at first, and it was one i didnt play much for a long time, but it has held up so well, there’s really not a bad song on the whole thing, and wuite a few tracks are faves now. Thin Air is so good, and i love Sleight of Hand
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:39 (three days ago) link
I went back and listened to the show I attended. It sounds much better than I remembered. I really did have shitty seats.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:41 (three days ago) link