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I just listened to both sides of "Burning from the Inside" last night after a many-year hiatus from the days when it was on CONSTANT rotation in my life, and it sounds sensational. So many different worlds colliding, but it's all of a piece somehow. It sounds like a variety-show cabaret, like a document of some decadent and just-vanished rock club in an unspecified European country. It's got so many moods. Pure pastoral optimism, jaded clattery trashcan funk, disco sleazerock. There's what sounds like a pagan ritual, building patiently from a single delicate guitar to an aggrieved crescendo of flame. Maybe everything else by them sucks. I don't know and I don't really care. Burning From the Inside sounds like the perfect record to me.

Dear readers I'm turning to you for a reality check. Is it as good as all that you think? (NB first time i typed it was 'drear readers' haha)

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes yes yes yes yes. Can I say yes again? Yes yes. Oh god, never mind, just go here -- while I think it could have been even better with a bit of editing, it's still a great album, they were a great band, I don't care what anyone thinks, your complaints will not move me, la la la I don't hear you la la la...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I had this and a few other Bauhaus albums in the early 80's... if memory serves this was a little better than some of the others, but still complete, pretentious crap. Even back then I didn't like them that much. Ok, some of their singles were fine, that's all I'll allow. The band was ok, but Peter Murphy is one of rock's worst vocalists, and all that agonized spooky garbage should be played for comedy (see: Cramps) or not at all.

Sean, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i kind of liked bauhaus back when I was a "punker" in high school, I wasn't into goth, but a lot of the chix I hung out were...
so a while ago I remembered how good burning from the inside was and decided to buy it again. It still sounded good so I decided to get the rest of their albums also. I discovered they are a great glam/art rock band. Their flaws are being a bit pretentious and sometimes extremely cheesy horror film lyrics, and the fact that they inspired a lot of awful followers. But they were a good rock band, and built upon their influences (the most obvious being t-rex & bowie) rather than just imitating. Some of the Love & Rockets % solo P. Murphy stuff is decent as well.

g, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with Sean - but I still love 'em. Their live shows were about as funny/pathetic as Spinal Tap. (I think that "Cape" that Peter wore was really a bathrobe.) And they really weren't that original. But I don't think they took themselves as seriously as "Ezriel, prince of the dark" took them. I think they viewed themselves as a punk/theatrical Bowie/T-Rex thing. (And Love & Rockets was way better.)

But they're what I'm listening to in the car these days... I still find their music to be great listening.

Dave225, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

What 'up g?

Seems like you and me were typin' at the same time....

Dave225, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

b-b-but Honeymoon Croon is a straight up rocker! and ANOTHER song sounds exactly like Shriekback. they get thoroughly RUBBIDGED all time but when you actually listen to it, it sounds exactly like what everybody SAYS they like. hnph. the song where Peter Murphy just talks instead of sings is annoying. but i love his fey-menace stance, voice just dripping with mock evil. there's a spot in rock for that i think.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

my timing is awful. gah. but yeah, i really respond to the glam/trash elements in them, cause they're complicated by other genres and instincts, unlike say the New York Dolls or whatevs.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I have their volume 2 best of...but I always end up listening to their cover of Ziggy Stardust and then turning it off. I'm bad. I shall give it a proper listen one day.

james, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

you should always deliberately mispronounce their name as 'Borehorse'.

duane, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that song, what's it, Stigma Martyr? See, that band is an example of something really "evil" sounding that fucks me up in the head. You know, it disorients me, makes me feel spazzy and unhappy. Venom's classic albums on the other hand are evil in a good way that makes me happy.

Nude Spock, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Bauhaus has always been slaughtered by critics for the same reason hololow bombastic bands like Muse, the obvious neo-bauhaus (vocals! but without the specific murphy &co qualities) nowadays are getting raving reviews.

Oh, how I hate Muse now.

erik, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I have In the Flat Field, which is pretty classic, though I haven't played in a while. The title track especially is brilliant. Daniel Ash was actually quite an inventive guitarist in the way he incorporated noise into the glam-funk-punk, though you never hear about it. They incorporated a wide variety of influences and ideas. I thought the lyrics were humorous and unpretentious. Press the Eject and Give Me the Tape was also really good and diverse. The version of "Bela Lugosi's Dead" is great. It's been a long time since I heard Burning From the Inside. I don't remember particularly liking it at the time. Was "Departure" on that? I liked that song.

"Yin and yang, lumber punch/Go taste a tart then eat my lunch."

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Bauhaus. I love them so much. I was even wearing a Bauhaus t- shirt yesterday before I changed into my 1930s German Cabaret Art School Lesbian costume for the neo-Weimar club.

My reasons for loving Bauhaus have already been elucidated on this forum, tho strangely on a thread about sax solos. (Because Bauhaus's fantastic sax squalls were such a brilliant pisstake of the sax solos discolouring everything from Bowie to Spandau Ballet in the 80s.) Bombastic, over the top, overblown art school freaky-weirness, stylistic genre-sluts (Gothic was only one of their many moods). The best BASS of any record in the 80s that wasn't made by Joy Division. And, as Suzy would say, they came with a SYLLABUS!!! They introduced me to many wonderful things, from Bill Burroughs to Lautremont to Joe Orton to German Expressionist silent cinema. (That's Conrad Veidt on the single cover, not Bela Lugosi, for trainspotters...)

And you wouldn't have Suede without them. Oh no.

So you are not wrong, they are very very brilliant. Oh dear, it's winter, my musical taste is about to take a turn for the goth again.

kate, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

And you wouldn't have Suede without them. Oh no.

Peter Murphy said as much once. Suede themselves have carefully steered clear of any admissions. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I always kind of thought Burning was meant to be their more 'accessible' album, but as it turns out it is the only one I still have besides the picture disc hits cd. I've always been more partial to In the flat field, but lost it a while back. Peter Murphy's solo work--pretentious crap.

Ian M, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Bauhaus. Their rekords are great, esp "burning from the inside" I think I must get them on CD (NB excellent reissues, w/ all b-sides, & v.cheap IIRC) I saw them live, and all four ov them were ROWR also, yeah verily even danny ash in his silly fishnets. When I was at tech college there was this rowr goth grrrl who obviously took her entire look from DA. Poss nearest band conceptuall & musically Jane's Addiction. They were great as well.

NormanPhay, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Kate and I were talking about this the other day when I outed her as a Former Goth (she tries to return the favour but I have never had even singly pierced ears and therefore escape classification). My best friend at college was a total Bauhaus obsessive and I would accompany Ashley (the friend) on missions to get such things as The March Of The Sinister Ducks single - the girl was really completist. So I learnt Bauhaus by osmosis, right down to the most obscure B-sides which Ashley hunted down with a passion. A few weeks ago I was sitting around on a rainy Saturday, watching Daria, and suddenly this operaGoth voice started in over the end credits with 'take a fish/and a po-ta-a-a-a-a- TO' and I wanted to call up several friends and squeal, "It's '1-2-3- 4'! Wa-hey!" Ashley made up for never seeing her second-favourite band play by seeing EVERY Love and Rockets and Peter Murphy show in New York during term-time and in LA in vacations, including a Valentine's Day Peter Murphy show at the Ritz where she made everyone hang out until she had successfully met him.

Another hilarious incident involves the usual after-school trip downtown to buy records (affordable) and drool over/try on the designer clothes at Dayton's ("Waaah! The 'smoking' in the YSL Rive Gauche section NOT ON SALE!'). Catherine Deneuve was doing an instore appearance to promote her fragrance and was SURROUNDED by skinny Goth boys in leather jackets with Bela Lugosi's Dead sleeves painted on the back. She looked a little bit bemused (but the opening to The Hunger still gets my vote as a fast, cool piece of cinema, even if the rest of it is a total perfume commercial and it makes me do my thing of filling up with tears when Bad Things Happen To David Bowie)

Funny that people mention Jane's Addiction; way back in 1987 Ashley and I went to see Love and Rockets play the old fleapit theatre in Port Chester. My college friends from LA had been raving about the support band, which was Jane's when they were still putting out records on Triple X. They'd been specially selected by the headliners so there was an element of patronage there.

And - oh! - what about Tones On Tail? I still have the red 12" for 'Go' in a big record box in Minneapolis. Loved it. At college just outside NYC, as regular posters may know, our Saturday dances were enlivened by our friend Margaret's ex-boyfriend from Greenwich, Moby Hall, our DJ. He played that CONSTANTLY and of course it became the backbone sample for his first single, also 'Go'.

suzy, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Suffice to say Suzy has made me jealous. And yes, Jane's = rad, and Love and Rockets always loved 'em. At the final ever L&R show, Steven Perkins joined them for a rip through "Yin and Yang The Flowerpot Men"

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...
REVIVE!

I bought my first Bauhaus album today...well, it's the Volume 1 best of (79-83), because I wanted to see what I was getting into before I started in on the albums.

I can't believe it took me this long to get around to listening to them, because they're EXCELLENT. Way more punky than i expected, for some reason I pictured the music differently because of all the Goth assosciations. I like Peter Murphy's voice. That's the other thing I like about the music, not only punky but theatrical as well, which I always dig.

Double Dare is my favorite song so far. I've got the album on repeat while I'm cleaning the bathroom, and I'm very very pleased with myself that I've discovered a 'new' band for me to play with.

So after everyone finishes beating me up for being such a stupid latecomer, I'd love to hear stories about people seeing them live, albums to buy, etc.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

:-D

Well your timing was good in ways since of course they just did a one-off at Coachella which by all accounts essentially slaughtered Coldplay's attempts to follow as the headliners. (Then again this couldn't have been too hard, but I digress.)

No beration, people find them as they do. Check the AMG for my various rantings on them. Since you have Vol. 1, might as well go for V. 2, and from there search out the four albums -- work in order: In the Flat Field, Mask, The Sky's Gone Out, Burning From the Inside. You audibly hear the band accidentally found a style through fusion, kick against it desperately while still perfecting it, try a variety of digressions, and then finally wrap up on a 'let's just get it over with even as we're clearly trying eight million things at once' note. There's also the amazing must-get live album Press the Eject and Give Me the Tape. In *all* cases search out the Beggars Banquet pressings with the bonus cuts (in the case of In the Flat Field, 4AD) -- in America, Sky's and Burning were only issued in lame A&M versions on disc, so ignore those and get the imports. The rest have surfaced domestically.

The Peel Session collection, Swing the Heartache, is the other must have in terms of albums. Some great alternate versions, total rarities ("Poison Pen," a cover of "Nighttime") etc. I am however not sure of its in-print status. Rest in Peace, the full recording from the 'final' show when the band first wrapped up its existence, is an interesting curio (among other things you get Peter's vocals on songs that he didn't sing on Burning due to an illness that almost killed him) but suffers from a murky, low-volume mix. Gotham, the live album from the 1998 reunion, is a treat but less essential unless you are me. Finally there's the original "Bela Lugosi's Dead"/"Boys" single, out of print on Small Wonder but find it if you can -- I believe the single disc comp Crackle has both, and it's kinda essential you get those songs. The live "Bela" on Volume 1 is enjoyable, but you simply MUST hear the original if you've not. It is among other things one of the best dub singles ever recorded and anyone who disagrees can get bent.

There are three videos out there -- Gotham was also on DVD and is good to see what they were like in 1998 for the reunion shows (saw them four times on that tour and I was so glad I did, excellent performances each time and they seemed to keep getting better as they went, concluding with one mother of a show at UC Irvine that wrapped up the American tour). But if you can find them, Shadow of Light -- a compilation of the studio videos plus some live cuts -- and Archive (all live cuts) are both equally necessary. I could be wrong but I still think they are not on DVD, and frankly that pisses me off -- but I treasure the VHS copies I still have.

My words from an AMG review of In the Flat Field sum up what I think was core about the band, really:

Few debut albums ever arrived so nearly perfectly formed; that In the Flat Field practically single-handedly invented what remains for many as the stereotype of goth music -- wracked, at times spindly vocals about despair and desolation of many kinds, sung over mysterious and moody music -- demonstrates the sui generis power of both the band and its work. This said, perhaps the best thing about the album isn't what it's supposed to sound like, but what it actually does -- an awesomely powerful, glam-inspired rock band firing on all fours, capable of restraint and complete overdrive both, fronted by a charismatic, storming frontman.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 01:54 (fourteen years ago) link

why aren't they touring again if they played coachella?

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 May 2005 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, I just bought Crackle today - it's great! (wish it had "Telegram Sam" though)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

A very good friend of mine works for Peter M. and could say more but hasn't, and I've not pressed her. Suffice to say that a solo tour had been planned first for Peter (and in fact is underway right now, I'll be seeing him on the 27th) -- the one-off reunion was kept very much in the dark (well, two-off, there was a small rehearsal show the night before, which I wouldn't have minded seeing but alas) until Coachella was announced, and even my friend was surprised, she thought the Coachella people were on crack! My guess is that some sort of weird offer was made, the four of them figured, "Eh, what the hell" and went for it. Had I not seen those great 1998 shows I would have been there like a shot; as it was I admittedly thought, "Jeez, this is sorta eh," and stuck with other plans that came up -- friend's birthday party, etc. Sounds like I missed out on one mother of a show, though -- I should have known they would still know how to bring the goods!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, Crackle is definitely the best if still incomplete starting point for the group compwise these days thanks to "Bela" but Vol. 1/2 is how I got into them after being a Love and Rockets fan, so I will not deny. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

They were really amazing. I will admit that my purchase was a direct result of the show. Also, all the used New Order stuff is gone at Amoeba!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I done listened to "Hollow Hills" a lot the last week. I think what rises Bauhaus above the risibility of their followers is:

a) TREEmendous rhythm section
b) Murphy not so much histrionic as phoning it in from a distant galaxy
c) This kind of skeletal reigned-in economy in the deployment of their weapons - less is more
d) Mr Raggett got two good ears and explains this better than me
e) Did I mention the rhythm section?

TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Ned, you rock. Once again, you've gone above & beyond the call of duty, and I'm most appreciative!!

Hey you might be able to help me, because the clerk at Virgin couldn't help me in the slightest. (We stopped by on our way out of the cinemaplex to get NIN With Teeth while it was on sale). While my husband & I were poking around in the Bauhaus section, we found a Japanese import of what looked like Volume 1 greatest hits. But it had a black cover & gold cover, like Volume 2, but the whole thing was a very thin cardboard sleeve. It also contained what looked like 2 discs and a vastly different track listing to the Volume 1 we ended up buying. Husband mused that perhaps it was v1 & 2 together, but there wasn't enough detail on the cd sleeve to decipher it. Clerk didn't know, computer didn't pull up any useful information & we were left wondering.

Thoughts?


VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Ooh wait I just found it on amazon. CRAP! It was v1 & 2 together. Goddammit.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link

One final official Bauhaus rarity is the book Beneath the Mask, a collection of articles in the press plus color reproductions of all the album and single covers put together by the group's old soundman Peter Plug Edwards, who also released Rest in Peace. The book is fun but the kicker is the inclusion of a bonus disc which contains the full contents of a group performance live-in-studio from 1979 -- seven songs plus a fragment of an eighth, all done before the band had released anything. Pretty cool, if one for the obsessives!

Speaking of obsessive, there is one official track that was never released on CD and apparently will never be -- when the band broke up, they released a final single via their fan club, "The Sanity Assassin." This song did surface later on V. 2 and the Burning CD, but the B-side never did -- a cover of Norman Greenbaum's irregularly revived/recovered early seventies Jesus-hippie-rock hit "Spirit in the Sky." Funny stuff! There's also a one-off studio track from the late nineties reunion that surfaced on the Heavy Metal 2000 soundtrack, "The Dog's a Vapour," while Gotham includes the other studio track the reunited band did, a cover of Dead Can Dance's "Severance," which was covered to absolutely brilliant effect on the tour (there's a live version on the disc as well).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

They were really amazing. I will admit that my purchase was a direct result of the show.

Excellent! I will pass that on to my friend Hina, she will be pleased. :-) Come see Peter's solo show! It'll be much different in intensity but he does the occasional Bauhaus number and is still a riveting performer on his own.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Ned, you rock. Once again, you've gone above & beyond the call of duty, and I'm most appreciative!!

:-D

And a pity about the V.1/V.2 confusion! But this might help -- the only track on V.2 that isn't on the studio album CD versions is "Paranoia Paranoia," which is a great song but is essentially a tweaked dub version of Sky's Gone Out's "Silent Hedges," so not quite as necessary. It is however a fine instance of the ability of the band to pulverize their own work as needed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Noodle of course nails the real killer thing -- that rhythm section. Absolutely nothing against Peter or Daniel of course, the whole band is essential as a combination, but the sheer ability, stop-on-a-dime mania as well as careful restraint of David J doing his King Tubby-meets-Can imitations and Kevin Haskins essentially doing similar is mind-bogglingly great.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

To give an example, meanwhile, of Peter and Daniel getting their due...there's the audio on Press the Eject but the video on Shadow of Light during the performance of John Cale's "Rosegarden Funeral of Sores" when Peter is half-draped over Daniel yelping "SCREAMING WHORES!!!!" while Daniel, playing along without a hitch, is delivering these rhythmic agonized yelps is pure transgressive violence as art project. And oh I love it I love it I love it.

Peter once said that Daniel could take three notes, play it on his guitar and make it sound like the end of the world. This is in fact perfectly accurate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll probably get the 1 & 2 combined edition, and sell off the standard v.1 as used.

When will the solo tour start? How big of a tour is it? Actually the reason I went & bought Bauhaus in the first place was because of what I was reading about their performance at Coachella. Even having never heard them, they sounded like something to look into a little more. I'm glad I did!!

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Well here's Peter's site:

http://www.petermurphy.info/

And here's the tour info -- got it slightly wrong, the tour isn't beginning until next week:

UNSHATTERED TOUR ITINERARY
click on individual show dates for venue and ticket information

MAY

12 Lake Buena Vista, Florida - House of Blues
13 Atlanta, Georgia - The Masquerade
15 Washington DC - 9.30 Club
16 New York, New York - B.B. King's Blues Club & Grill
17 Cleveland, Ohio - Odeon Concert Club
18 Chicago, Illinois - Metro
20 Denver, Colorado - Ogden Theatre
22 Portland, Oregon - Roseland Theatre
23 Seattle, Washington - The Showbox
24 San Francisco, California - The Fillmore
26 San Diego, California - House of Blues
27 Los Angeles, California - Henry Fonda Theatre
28 Anaheim, California - House of Blues
30 Mexico City, Mexico - Salon 21

Go for the SF show! You'll really like it, I predict. :-) I've seen Peter now solo and in Bauhaus a total of...*thinks*...ten times. He has never once failed to seriously put on an excellent show -- a committed performer, he doesn't take his audience for granted, while he never seems to lose his sense of humor either.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

(I should note that solo Peter is certainly a different beast than Bauhaus, though by no means not entirely -- over the course of seven studio albums (plus an EP and a live album) he's tackled everything from Japan-derived ambience to brittle rock to, on his 2002 album Dust, a truly astonishing combination of his pop/rock instincts with Turkish music -- his wife is Turkish [and he himself converted to Islam many years previously], he has lived in the country for many years, and the resultant album was my fave of the year, the tour stop I saw him do an exquisite event. You will not get Bauhaus, you'd need all four of them there -- but you will get someone who, dogged as he was with all sorts of Bowie-knockoff comparisons over the years, ended up carving out his own, strong path.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I've hinted to my husband that we should go. He used to be into Bauhaus, not a huge fan but enjoyed them. We shall see...I hope to go though. Sounds like it would be an interesting night, to say the least.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

At the least. :-)

Keep in mind that there's also the wonderful music by everyone else in the band -- Love and Rockets of course, but Tones on Tail, the solo stuff by Daniel Ash and David J...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I should say that I've always been a fan (if somewhat standoff-ish because of the whole goth thing which I'm wary of for a number of reasons), but the show was great and I realized that I only had "Bela Lugosi's Dead" on vinyl and never get to listen to it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't know Love & Rockets was Bauhaus-members, I was a big fan of the single 'So Alive' but I never really followed through with any albums, and I've never heard of Tones On Tail.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link

As you doubtless sense, Spencer, the goth thing was something that was ladled onto them rather than them embracing it -- that they played around with imagery that would become common/stereotypical is hardly their fault given that they weren't exactly setting out to actually be a goth band, such an idea just didn't exist! Think of it this way -- they are no more a goth band than MBV is a shoegaze band, easy and vaguely handy as the label might be as shorthand in many cases. (And like MBV, they rock the fuck out -- one of Daniel's favorite ever bands is the JAMC, so there ya go. ;-))

Love and Rockets IS Bauhaus, just without Peter. :-) They didn't immediately become L&R, though -- Tones on Tail was the project that Daniel and Kevin started a bit while Bauhaus was still going, with Glenn Campling on bass, and they continued that for a while after the Bauhaus collapse. There's a double disc, Everything, which I highly recommend -- it's just as enjoyable schizophrenic as Bauhaus. "Go!" was their most famous song, which you might have heard here or there. David's solo career was in full swing around the same time, he recorded two solo albums and enough singles to warrant a rarities collection. AND he was performing with the Jazz Butcher at the same time, which is a whole other story! And then he has released a number of solo discs off and on over time since -- David's solo stuff is generally calmer, lower-key, witty and warm folk/rock/blues, he's a prince of a feller. Daniel's solo stuff is his 'rock never dies!' dream impulse and he often does a good job with it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

And then yes, Love and Rockets in general. Just a fantastic band on their own, as distinct and wonderful as Peter is solo, in different veins. Their Hot Trip to Heaven album from 1994 is as adventurous and unique an effort -- exploring lush ambient techno/drone -- as Dust was for Peter. Aside from the slightly half-hearted final album Lift nearly everything of theirs is worth investigating; the first four albums have all been rereleased/spiffed up on Beggars.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link

(And yes, this thread has prompted me to dig out stuff. Just finished listening to Beneath the Mask and the "Bela"/"Boys" single. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

My Volume 1 cd is now on its fourth go-round. Yay Bauhaus! Lately I've been digging out all my Nick Cave stuff since the B-Sides & Rarites release, and I'm finding Bauhaus dovetails nicely with ole Nick.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

They were labelmates by a hair in 1980/81 -- 4AD originally existed as a farm team label for Beggars, flush as they were with Numan cash and able to indulge Ivo in his art project idea for a record company. After In the Flat Field Bauhaus 'graduated' to Beggars, turning out to be the only band to actually follow that specific course (unless you count Tones on Tail's similar path but that's not much of a difference in personnel), while Nick and crew merrily stuck around on 4AD and drank Ivo's beer before Daniel Miller said, "Dudes, I have all this Depeche money and I gotta spend it on someone, so you'll do. Have you met this Blixa guy, BTW?" (This might be a lie.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Heheh, am listening to the radio sessions disc and good ol' "Double Dare" is rampaging away. They opened the first full-on 1998 reunion show with this mother -- the moment when the lights went out at the Palladium and that opening guitar GROWOWOWOWOWWOW ripped out of the amps I think the entire place pretty much died in explosive delight and screaming.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

All post and solo stuff aside...

Bauhaus were on the best post-punk bands around. It is just too bad they are mostly remembered as thee GAWTH godfathers instead one of the better of the post-punk canon instead. Nothing wrong with the former, but the latter is often grossly overlooked.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw the second reunion show at the Palladium and it was great.. they ended their 1998 tours at my alma mater.. U.C. Irvine Bren Events center.. that show blew away the initial Palladium show by miles. The main set ender at the Irvine show, "Dark Entries", remains probably one of my favorite live show moments ever... I really did feel like I was transported back in 1980 in the UK.. except maybe even better.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Bauhaus were on the best post-punk bands around.

As much as I love this typo, I really meant to say: Bauhaus were one of the best post-punk bands around.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link

fish cakes

does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Friday, 13 April 2012 04:09 (seven years ago) link

stamp on the fish

does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Friday, 13 April 2012 04:09 (seven years ago) link

THROW IT AGAINST THE WALL!

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Friday, 13 April 2012 08:42 (seven years ago) link

A la carte!

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Friday, 13 April 2012 08:42 (seven years ago) link

Do you always keep your drumsticks in the piano?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:40 (seven years ago) link

Take it easy

Avoid risks and if possible, stay at home.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:01 (seven years ago) link

I remember thinking "The case continues" was just some romantic conclusion for that section and not standard Brit crime journo conclusion for a mid-trial report.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:37 (seven years ago) link

this song made me fall in love with Bauhaus btw

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:42 (seven years ago) link

Haha wow of all things! But it is an inspired idea, more bands should do similar.

What is Ash saying in his bit, anyway? Some sort of backward-masked love of spiky hair?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:48 (seven years ago) link

It's the same idea as 5% for Nothing and all those wacky one-band-member bits on Fragile but obv p different in execution

does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:30 (seven years ago) link

I loved when they split up their songs into bits and worked on them like an exquisite corpse, it was so Surrealist, I love it. Spot the art school band, I win.

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Friday, 13 April 2012 15:42 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Hahah thank you, I'd linked that upthread a bit but the URL died.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:05 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

No rush. Take your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOBe--9NqLU

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:35 (six years ago) link

Hahahaha... the fuck!? :D

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:05 (six years ago) link

Just...let it flow.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:51 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

My latest Quietus piece -- on the 30th anniversary of Burning From the Inside:

http://thequietus.com/articles/12708-bauhaus-burning-from-the-inside

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 16:59 (six years ago) link

MAKE THE MOST OF A MILLION TIMES... yes?

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:57 (six years ago) link

Great article! I still listen to "Hope" regularly to this day.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 22:19 (six years ago) link

one month passes...
two months pass...
three months pass...

Kick in the EEEYYYYYYEEEEE! Oh! Oh! Oh!

ooooooo-OOOOOOOH-oooooooh ooooooooh-OOOOOOOH-oooooh...

(I thought there was another Bauhaus thread that was longer and had Bimble bimbling with love all over it, but I should read behind the cut of this one, I guess.)

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Monday, 10 February 2014 10:48 (five years ago) link

Ned Raggett from days of yore...

Noodle of course nails the real killer thing -- that rhythm section. Absolutely nothing against Peter or Daniel of course, the whole band is essential as a combination, but the sheer ability, stop-on-a-dime mania as well as careful restraint of David J doing his King Tubby-meets-Can imitations and Kevin Haskins essentially doing similar is mind-bogglingly great.

...

To give an example, meanwhile, of Peter and Daniel getting their due...there's the audio on Press the Eject but the video on Shadow of Light during the performance of John Cale's "Rosegarden Funeral of Sores" when Peter is half-draped over Daniel yelping "SCREAMING WHORES!!!!" while Daniel, playing along without a hitch, is delivering these rhythmic agonized yelps is pure transgressive violence as art project. And oh I love it I love it I love it.

As fucking brilliant as that particular scene is, it isn't even the best part of that video. Which is when Peter goes over to the other side of the stage and attempts to drape himself in a similar fashion over the besuited and dark sunglassed David J. Who pulls a slightly pained expression, raising one ginger eyebrow, dislodges him with a faintly reptilian shrug which somehow seems about a billion times *weirder* and more outre than all of Daniel's fishnets and alien-sex-god antics, then, as Peter walks away... HIS FISHNET TUNIC THING CATCHES ON THE TUNING PEGS OF DAVID'S BASS. David, with the same reptilian cool, tilts his bass neck - without ever losing track: not a beat dropped, not a pitch even slightly faffed - of the insanely complicated line he is playing on a fretless fucking bass - and casually unhooks him as if tossing an unwanted minnow back into the sea.

I love Daniel and all, but seriously, in a band as weird and insane and hilariously out there as Bauhaus were, the most *freakish* and bizarre thing was actually turning up to work every day in a suit. David J always was the coolest member of that band, against stiff competition.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Monday, 10 February 2014 11:04 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Time to revive this thread I think! In that I interviewed David J for Bandcamp.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2016/07/07/david-j-interview/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:29 (three years ago) link

nice interview Ned.

we did have a artist poll this year in case you missed it: We POLL Our Audience: You, The Night and The Music - BAUHAUS - Love and Rockets, Tones on Tail, Peter Murphy etcetera - ILM artist poll number 73 - results thread

Bee OK, Friday, 8 July 2016 01:51 (three years ago) link

david's doing a house show in SF this weekend. not sure where.

akm, Friday, 8 July 2016 05:03 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

NOT a reunion...but:

http://www.post-punk.com/david-j-haskins-and-peter-murphy-are-set-to-reunite-to-perform-bauhaus-songs-together-for-the-first-time-in-over-a-decade/

Like I muttered on the Peter solo thread, of all the intertangled relationships between the core four, theirs has to be the weirdest.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 September 2017 18:36 (one year ago) link

tell us more...

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 21 September 2017 19:09 (one year ago) link

Well just based on their clear moments of evident disdain/anger towards each other -- Peter's public comments on the ending of the last full Bauhaus reunion (resulting in the song "I Spit Roses" as well) followed by David's hardly less flattering ones in response in his book, etc. Money talks, whatever, but all four of them are clearly intertwined for life one way or another, and I think their evident chalk-and-cheese approach over decades is one reason why it can never fully work, or only does so for bursts at a time. (Just happened that the first burst was, well, THAT big, subculturally.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 September 2017 19:14 (one year ago) link

I'm actually beyond surprised that this is happening.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 21 September 2017 19:45 (one year ago) link

since this thread got bumped. i ran a Bauhaus poll awhile back and never linked to this thread. my least popular artist poll but i still had fun.

We POLL Our Audience: You, The Night and The Music - BAUHAUS - Love and Rockets, Tones on Tail, Peter Murphy etcetera - ILM artist poll number 73 - results thread

Bee OK, Friday, 22 September 2017 01:52 (one year ago) link

missed that i actually already posted that link in this thread, sorry. going too fast.

Bee OK, Friday, 22 September 2017 02:38 (one year ago) link

Meanwhile, Daniel Ash, Kevin Haskins and his daugther Diva will be playing in my city soon as Poptone. The ad says they play a mix of Bauhaus, Tones On Tails and Love & Rockets songs! Has anybody here seen them?

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 22 September 2017 03:55 (one year ago) link

^ damn I just scheduled a camping trip for when they're coming to Atlanta :[

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:59 (one year ago) link

xp my friend saw them in Portland and LOVED it, he is a huge fan

sleeve, Friday, 22 September 2017 04:02 (one year ago) link

Yeah saw the show here in June, really great -- totally scratches the itch for anyone bummed that they never saw Tones on Tail (which, since they only toured here the once in 1984, is pretty damn near everyone). Quite honestly the only song they didn't perform which I wish they had was "Real Life" but I'm not surprised that didn't make the cut -- otherwise, every ToT cut you could want (even "Heartbreak Hotel"!) plus a couple of other covers, "Slice of Life" and a clutch of L&R songs. Between that and this Peter/David combination -- well, I've seen the reunited Bauhaus about six different times but I'll take this as an addendum.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 September 2017 04:07 (one year ago) link

I saw Bauhaus in 2005 and they were excellent. Ferocious even. I'm really excited to hear Tones On Tails songs live now!

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 22 September 2017 04:20 (one year ago) link

I haven't listened to any Bauhaus for ages, but these thread revivals have got me wanting to hear Mask ...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:53 (one year ago) link

The two singles/Best Ofs are my goto Bauhaus. Never felt the need to own the albums.

Peel Sessions are great, too, but then they almost always are.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 23 September 2017 14:42 (one year ago) link

i picked up one of those 5cd box sets on amazon for £16 in 2013. still available - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Albums-Box-Set-Burning-Singles/dp/B00FE1XIBS

that's actually cheaper than a single one of those white or black best-ofs (which might be out of print looking at the prices on amazon)

koogs, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:40 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

A last little trick up their sleeve:

https://bauhaus.bandcamp.com/album/the-bela-session

The Bela Session is a full release of Bauhaus' first studio session from January 26 1979, where the iconic "Bela Lugosi's Dead" was recorded. This is the first and only official reissue of "Bela Lugosi's Dead" on vinyl, and the first time 3 of the 5 tracks have been released. This EP has been produced directly by the band with Leaving Records, in advance of the band's 40th anniversary.

Tracklisting:

1. Bela Lugosi's Dead (Official Version) 09:36
2. Some Faces
3. Bite My Hip
4. Harry
5. Boys (Original)

"Harry" saw release as a B-side in 1982; the rest as indicated haven't officially surfaced, though "Bite My Hip" was eventually recorded and entitled "Lagartija Nick" well down the road of their original existence. This is also different from the Live in the Studio 1979 EP that surfaced with Behind the Mask.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:44 (one year ago) link

wow!

crüt, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:51 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

"Last night Peter Murphy had a meltdown at the gig in Stockholm (Nalen).

Annoyed at a small sector of the crowd ignoring his show he was apparently throwing bottles at the audience one of which landed on the mixing desk which broke it and ended the concert after 2/3 of the gig. Following this there was an altercation with the security at the venue which saw him thrown out of the venue."

Duke, Saturday, 15 December 2018 10:24 (nine months ago) link

Fucking hell. Is he still on the crystal meth?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:17 (nine months ago) link

eight months pass...

Well, here we go once more.

BAUHAUS announces HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM SHOW

Bauhaus, featuring Peter Murphy, Daniel Ash, Kevin Haskins, and David J, will play the Hollywood Palladium in Los Angeles on November 3.
Tickets on sale Friday, September… https://t.co/d4or2gN9NE

— Peter Murphy (@petermurphyinfo) September 10, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:22 (one week ago) link

There's something...weird in realizing they're announcing this reunion to take place in the spot where they played the first reunion shows in 1998. Double nostalgia.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:22 (one week ago) link

Double nostalgia excitement!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:31 (one week ago) link

Crazy to think that more time elapsed since that first reunion than between that and their initial split

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:45 (one week ago) link

More and more I appreciate the sweet innocence of this being called what it is when it was released in 1992:

https://www.discogs.com/Bauhaus-Rest-In-Peace-The-Final-Concert/master/324249

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:45 (one week ago) link


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