Top 50 Most Overrated Electronic Albums

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I thought this might have been covered, but I couldn't find a thread in the search.

"Electronic" here being the type carried in the "Electronic(a)", "Dance", "Techno", etc. section of typical record store. The likes of Kraftwerk (often carried in "Rock") are also applicable, but Kraftwerk itself is not, because they are not overrated. "All of it" is not applicable.

My choice:

#50 Aphex Twin "Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2" (I know this was covered elsewhere)

I used to listen to this constantly at school, but in retrospect, it's flat as a pancake and actually an easy Top 5, but placed at a higher # to avoid nasty backlash.....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

only 50?

Krankenhaus, Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Kraftwerk itself is not, because they are not overrated

COUGH!
http://valen.host.sk/discografia/resultado/discos/imagenes/radio-activity-(1975).gif

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

49? dieselboy-6ixth session

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

XPOST

Only 50 because these lists never seem to go on for 100.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Good point on Radio-Activity, but I stand my ground: Kraftwerk is NOT overrated!

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

48. plaid - mbuki mvuki

"legendary album, way ahead of its time ... complexity yet funkiness is almost unreal" - some boob on discogs.com

the complexity and funkiness = wholly imaginary, actually

legendary = yes, but so are crocodiles in the toilets

ahead of its time = maybe, in that the boring post-techno electronica glut wasn't scheduled to happen for at least seven or eight years.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

#50 is the first that pops into my mind. I can't even get beyond it to think of another one right now.

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i'm going to resist the urge to do "plaid - everything else" as #47 but only because i don't know how highly people rate the other plaid albums. the guys in plaid are fantastic when they're doing things as balil and tura and atypic and black dog, but it's like a magic curse, when they put on their plaid pants they start to suck almost immediately.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

47. Mouse on Mars, Idiology. I like that they're moving in new directions, and there's some really pretty stuff on here ("Paradical"), but between the vocal tracks, the super-glitch freakouts, and the more organic ambient numbers, this record feels disjointed. I end up skipping tracks a lot.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Four Tet, stand up and be counted.

Britney's breasts for Voltron (Barima), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Goldie - Timeless

tipustiger, Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh good God yes, Four Tet (who I like, but PLEASE).

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Does the Streets count?

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

First person to mention Orbital gets assassinated, yo.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oy. thats claerly the wrong seletced ambient works up there.

:|, Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'd rather hear what actual technocrats have to say as far as album placings, but along with Radio Activity I would like to suggest that Moby find some little nook in this list to live.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Moby's not overrated though, all I ever read are criticisms of him.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

XPOST

Yeah but Radio-Activity isn't really "overrated" because NOBODY brings that album up when talking about either classic electronic records or classic Kraftwerk records.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(I love that album)

(Jon L), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Simon Reynolds gave Radioactivity a 9 in the Spin Alternative Record Guide, which was it inspired me to get it. I'm bitter.

And Play was still included in the new issue of Spin's 25 Crucial Electronic Albums Ever.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah? Fucking hell.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

along with You've Come Along Way, Baby.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ironic, if you think about it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

radioactivity is my favourite kw album...

overrated 'super discount'

zappi (joni), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, ironic where ironic = disgusting.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

boards of canada - music has the right to bore you to death

metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

#43(?) Death In Vegas "Scorpio Rising"

I had to sneak this over to my record store's listening station (to preserve the rep). Utter crap.

Also brings to mind the last few Chemical Brothers records, which while not utter crap, are overrated all the same.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dig Your Own Hole is their apogee, really.

Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

42. autechre - tri repeate
41. autechre - lp5
40. autechre - ep7
39. autechre - confield
38. autechre - chiastic slide
37. autechre - draft 7:30
36. autechre - incunabulababapapaoomaumau

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I knew someone would do this! No, no, noooooooooo!!!!!!

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I have to assume the album that incorporates a "papaooomaumau" was kind of a step up.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You like Amber then, eh?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

35. new forms - roni size & reprazent

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

haha i knew i forgot one!!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ehehehe

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i will mention Leftfield now before anyone else does even tho i love both albums (first more than second of course)...naturally i like all the albums mentioned here so far (the ones i've heard at least)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

tho having said that i would agree about BOC's MHTRTC being over-rated. give me Twoism and Geogaddi over that easily (despite ROYGBIV being the best thing they've ever done)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

34. orbital - insides
33. leftfield - leftism
32. the orb - adventures beyond the blah blah
31. derrick may - innovator

haha xpost

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I kill strongo for 34.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

#32 The whole Kompakt "Pop Ambient" series

Case closed via review by Aquarius Records:

"At this rate by volume 6 or 7 there may not be any sound left at all, just gentle whispers and inaudible drones."

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, now that almost every "electronic" album I bought because of its esteem has now been discredited, I'm actually more curious what album's AREN'T overrated in this genre.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

30. pole - 1, 2, 3
29. masters at work - EVERYTHING EVER

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

28. felix da housecat - kittenz and thee glitz
27. most of the chain reaction records
26. the basic channel cd

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

About as much as isn't overrated in the rock canon, Anthony.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

not over-rated = 808 State's '90' and 'Ex:El', except by me maybe ;)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

25. the collected works of throbbing gristle
24. cabaret voltaire - 2X4

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No one really rates Confield and Draft. I'd have put Amber (and EP7) as my overrated choices.

Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Draft 7.30 was my favorite electronic album of 2003

(Jon L), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also: Their trick to stretch out a song for two or eight more minutes is to add an annoying flanger effect to the loop.

ha, all my failed 90s attempts to make music do this trick too

not sure if I got it from them or if it's just because (unlike many other effects) flanging a drum loop is easy and fun to play with in 90s tracker software

I still rep for Pole's 1/2/3 because I had surgery and was laid up for a week and mildly drugged up and I just sat around listening to all of them on a loop and staring at a textured wall and intermittently napping

this is a v good way to listen to records ime

(not electronic but) my maybe-favourite Oneida record "The Wedding" isn't anyone else's favourite Oneida record iirc, but it is the one that was on the 3-disc changer during my week off after surgery, drifting in and out of awakeness/awareness, dosed up with a big bag of synthetic opiates

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 17 May 2018 09:11 (one week ago) Permalink

even the good posts in this thread are marred by the premise of it. i feel like "overrated" is such a one-dimensional concept especially when applied to electronic music where the ratedness is so marginal and in-the-moment in the first place. when it arises it comes from a rock perspective which is just deeply lame. and the less serious variety is like cyclical revulsion/nostalgia, "what were people thinking from 2003-2007" or w/e.

― you bet, nancy (map)

like i said in the other thread, most of the stuff in this thread, including stuff i've contributed, is stuff i enjoy and think is good. when i talk about "overrated" i do talk about it from a rock perspective because, one, i come from a rock background, and two, most of the "overrating" does seem to come from a rock mindset - favoring albums, etc. you know what it reminds me of, actually? people who will insist with a straight face that frank zappa is the best 20th century composer. most of the people who say that haven't heard very many 20th century composers!

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:02 (one week ago) Permalink

But I will agree that this thread is an unproductive one. Most music could be construed "overrated" regardless of genre. Where's the "underrated" thread?

― octobeard

it's called "house and techno bobbins 2018", it's full of great stuff, check it out

there are others as well, techno/house bobbins of the past, basically anything saer posts

they're not called "underrated" but i think that's probably for the best

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:08 (one week ago) Permalink

you know what was good was snd's first album

― you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck yeah

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:19 (one week ago) Permalink

the worst thing about this thread is people shitting on whole artists for not producing albums that sound like Discovery or something

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:25 (one week ago) Permalink

the thread is for ALBUMS

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:25 (one week ago) Permalink

Clicks and Cuts was and still is great fuiud

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:28 (one week ago) Permalink

That reminds me: Discovery

frogbs, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I saw snd live and man sounded like sandpaper on wax

Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Mark Fell is God, afaic

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:16 (one week ago) Permalink

it makes me think of the pipecock era, or when i was just getting into dancier and blacker music and sort of trying to digest the history of it, when it was like there were these gradients of what is and isn't ok to like among different types of fans. i know a little bit more now and have a better sense of what kind of fan i am and i can think of a bunch of more rewarding ways to engage with what people think about electronic music from their past than "overrated" ffs.

― you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:43 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even tho i have participated itt in prob dumb ways i think u are otm

marcos, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:19 (one week ago) Permalink

also rush otm too when he said itt or maybe the other one that all these albums are worth listening to, imo nothing we are saying here really has to do w/ the music itself anyways. if you love those clark albums then i am ultimately very happy for you

marcos, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:20 (one week ago) Permalink

btw i love those pole albums

marcos, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:20 (one week ago) Permalink

def think a most underrated albums thread would be more useful

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:54 (one week ago) Permalink

or a "random old electronic music you're loving" one

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:54 (one week ago) Permalink

JIV that is some generic fast fashion bullshit house Herbert and you should know better

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:34 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

house music is good

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:57 (one week ago) Permalink

i made an album all of samples taken at a mcdonalds and it's a comment on capitalism is less good

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:58 (one week ago) Permalink

eh i like this thread lol even though its full of people being wrong

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:24 (one week ago) Permalink

don't get re albums that supposedly sound dated re electronica.
I mean, I still listen to Kraftwerk/Yello/Cabs/Pedro/Prefuse 73 etc a lot.
if its good upon release, then its good a few years later even if there are new generations of software that may be better now.

mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:46 (one week ago) Permalink

More about changing styles/aesthetics imo

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:58 (one week ago) Permalink

but that happens in every genre

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:58 (one week ago) Permalink

isolee 'wearemonster' got overrated imo, 'rest' was way better but critical attention was inversely proportionate


Rest still sounds so ahead of its time for being made in 98 or whatever. Great great unique and wonderful album.

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Though production techniques can factor in...some end up sounding 'timeless' or 'classic' because they keep getting re-used, others are popular for a minute and then not so much (like sidechain compressing everything to the kick drum, or glitchy Pro Tools sample chopping all over the place, or putting mid-tempo breakbeats through guitar pedals in a way that sounds very '90s, etc)

xp

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:01 (one week ago) Permalink

but that happens in every genre

Exactly?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:02 (one week ago) Permalink

ok thought we were saying electronic stuff gets pegged as dated more than other genres and positing theories as to why

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:27 (one week ago) Permalink

that was Moka's post i dont really agree w it either

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

100% agree w/r/t Isolee. Rest is much better than wearemonster, but perhaps the people who loved wearemonster were new to the genre and so they overvalued the album because they weren't around for the release of Rest.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

it's an obvious point but dance music can get just as caught up in roots and tradition as others musics, like deep house for ex

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:35 (one week ago) Permalink

it's not all "must generate new alien sounds"

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:36 (one week ago) Permalink

I think stuff that's using a brand new instrument or tool gets pegged to a time... until there's a revival a couple decades later and then people marvel about how "contemporary" something sounds

sometimes it's just revisiting older sounds, but other times it's enthusiasm for something new that's a different take

for instance, all the eurorack stuff now

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:36 (one week ago) Permalink

do I need to dig around and find out what eurorack is ?

mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:01 (one week ago) Permalink

it’s a modular synth system

chant down basildon (NickB), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:02 (one week ago) Permalink

someone had the genius idea to come up with a standard form factor/voltage/specified cable for modular synth units so you can put them all in a little box or cabinet and plug them all together using the same cables

you've heard a bunch of stuff in recent years made that way, trust me

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:05 (one week ago) Permalink

it's the thule roofbars of synth

chant down basildon (NickB), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:09 (one week ago) Permalink

you've heard a bunch of stuff in recent years made that way, trust me

I have no doubt that's true.
however, I have never heard that phrase before.
ta.

mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:32 (one week ago) Permalink

someone had the genius idea to come up with a standard form factor/voltage/specified cable for modular synth units so you can put them all in a little box or cabinet and plug them all together using the same cables

Robert Moog did that in 1964!

Vast Halo, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:14 (one week ago) Permalink

"today" is my jam off wearemonster, so so dope

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:14 (one week ago) Permalink

xp yeah, but someone had that genius idea again in the mid 90s

and thus the cycle of modular synth rises again

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Friday, 18 May 2018 14:03 (one week ago) Permalink

btw the coolest niche thing now is the vcv rack software, which in a recursive manner, emulates and gives people a way to build modular synths in software and wire them up. other software has done it but this is a pretty cool framework

link for a nice example https://www.facebook.com/groups/vcvrack/permalink/184204178906401/

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Mark Fell is God, afaic

― brimstead, Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:16 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^

like for all of the interviews he gives where he's just so anti-dancing (yawn), he sure has made some v. funky (and gorgeous) music

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Wearemonster generated a lot of buzz at the time but it doesn't seem to have lasted in the critical memory in the way that, say, Alcachofa has. Isolee in general now feels like one of those producers who made so many great, detail-packed records and now gets overlooked in the rush to lay hosannas on Villalobos as the crowning auterish genius of his era.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:49 (one week ago) Permalink

(Beau Mot Plage has lasted, obviously, but individual tracks rarely feel over or underrated in the way that albums do)

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I like a lot of early Bicep tracks and remixes but their album was just really formulaic and boring, not in a joyous and familiar way but in a predictable and unthrilling way

Yeah. I bought the album purely on the strength of seeing it appear several times in the ILM 'best of 2017' poll, not previously having heard a note of it. I was quite dismayed by how pedestrian it is. Probably the first time that the hivemind has let me down.

Vast Halo, Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:18 (one week ago) Permalink

"probably the first time that the hivemind has let me down"

If that was only your first time, you're in for a world of hurt

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:25 (one week ago) Permalink

challop: SAW 2 is 85% meh

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I have a bunch of Thomas Koner CDs that I picked up because The Wire was all over them, and I'm still not sure just what the hell I'm supposed to be hearing! (The Porter Ricks stuff is pretty good, though.)

henry s, Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:47 (one week ago) Permalink

Wearemonster generated a lot of buzz at the time but it doesn't seem to have lasted in the critical memory in the way that, say, Alcachofa has. Isolee in general now feels like one of those producers who made so many great, detail-packed records and now gets overlooked in the rush to lay hosannas on Villalobos as the crowning auterish genius of his era.

― Matt DC, Saturday, May 19, 2018 4:49 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this to me feels like a better example of 'overrated' than villalobos for that reason kinda? like, i also actually want to listen to achso but not wearemonster

that said 'rest' is pretty awesome to me still in the way that mid 00s villalobos is

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:20 (one week ago) Permalink

I've always felt that way about SAW2

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:50 (one week ago) Permalink

köner is awesome
thirded on the SAW2 "what gives?"

massaman gai, Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:40 (one week ago) Permalink

I agree with the post upthread to the effect that a lot of the excitement around Wearemonster was catch-up for people who missed Rest the first time around. The former is still a great record IMO, but Isolee's "auteur" period was really in the years leading up to and culminating with Rest (see also the early singles, many of which ended up on Western Stores, and stuff like the remix of Blaze's "Lovelee Dae").

There's still total classic tracks in the following years like the "Lent" and "Sweet Chat Rio" remixes from 2003, and especially the "Cardiology" and "Africa / Brazil" remixes from 2004, but they're more like superb dancefloor articulations of all of the producer's assembled tricks and tactics (no surprises that this stuff is often my favourite Isolee) (actually in retrospect Playhouse really missed a trick by not putting out a remixes collection at about that point).

The fact that Isolee was really an auteur in the years before the microhouse / minimal crossover means that, while Wearemonster arguably was overrated on release, Isolee as an artist is now underrated - perhaps because more people had the luxury of following the tail end of Villalobos' classic era in real time, it's easier to think of his work as "important" in a way that is less obvious for Isolee.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:17 (one week ago) Permalink


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