little richard - C or D?

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or brilliant one trick pony?

thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Brilliant 1-trick pony = Classic

noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what? no answer required. he's LITTLE RICHARD

this question should not be asked. ever. ever. ever. look at him. oh man.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Long Distance Moderator, please change the title to 'let us now praise little richard'

de, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i want to praise little richard as much as anyone, hes my fucking hero, (and david bowies) but i wanted the ilxor consensus. cos yknow, i cant sleep without it.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i always think about how i wish old artists should listen to new music and try to stay up to date with whats going on. little richard should only listen to little richard.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i think more new artists should listen to old ones (and i mean pre-1965). not to sound like them but to discretely borrow and learn from.

did you read richard's self analysis in the rolling stone shittiest ever list of greatest rock icons or whatever? noones entry came close to richards. even in chart rundown entries, the man towers over all others.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yes, i read that. thats exactly when i formed that idea. what a wonderful wonderful man.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, his piece was funny. the rest was worthless. (please note I only read RS on the toilet cuz my fiancee's mom inexplicably forwards the issue from her subscription to us)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

if anyone has ever watched joe boyd's posthumous film on hendrix, they will no doubt have witnessed richard in tight fitting decorative blue catsuit talking about hendrix, yet at the same time, continously fixing his hair and preening himself to brilliant king of peacock-rock (n roll) effect. the man is a god.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

His '60s gospel and r&b is good too. And he did "Little Richard's Testimony," which is the greatest pro- and anti-drug sermon ever. C.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 3 June 2004 00:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

as far as Richard being a one-trick pony, seek out 'I Don't Know What You Got (But Its Got Me).' It'll bust your head in two.

rumple, Thursday, 3 June 2004 01:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Esquerita's better.

Vic Funk, Thursday, 3 June 2004 01:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

jesus! thank you for alerting me to Esquerita!

why didnt i know????

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 3 June 2004 02:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Little Richard, C or D?

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also worth seeking out is LR's performance on 33 1/3 Revolutions Per Monkee. His singing/playing are nothing astonishing, but after about 15 seconds, he suddenly jumps up on his piano and starts shimmying. It looked as if he'd been waiting his whole life to do that.

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic x a million

officer pupp, Friday, 4 June 2004 07:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

omg "I Don't Know What You've Got"! "He comes to me on my job and says, 'Richardyoudon'tknowwhat'sgoingon! RICHARD, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!'"

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 4 June 2004 08:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

anyone who thinks dud can die now please, thank you.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 4 June 2004 08:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what kind of thing did he write in rolling stone?

what is that famous talk show appearance where he started interrupting people and declaring himself to be the greatest of all time etc.?

have you guys ever heard his (relatively tame) early singles?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 4 June 2004 08:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one of the greatest. and yes, let's start listen more 50's rock n roll - the best productions ever.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 4 June 2004 08:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what is that famous talk show appearance where he started interrupting people and declaring himself to be the greatest of all time etc.?

well, i think LR has done that every time he's appeared on TV ever. but the one you're thinking of is probably the dick cavett show, as recounted so hilariously in greil marcus's "mystery train."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 4 June 2004 08:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"50's rock n roll - the best productions ever"

yep. incidentally, chuck berry's LPs from the 50s sound better and more alive than the cd-remasters.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Friday, 4 June 2004 09:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the chess in-house productions don't really sound that great to my ears, lots of good music came out of that place *in spite* of it.

cossimo's studio, on the other hand...

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 4 June 2004 09:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

i adore this man.

i only have comps of the speciality years but theyre so great. everyone talks about his screaming (deservedly) but richard had some really lovely, more delicate vocal performances too that were just as brill.

i keep wanting to check out more of what he did later (even the remakes of the early hits), more of the gospel stuff too, but am worried ill buy something and itll be average.

there was an okayish docu on r2 a few weeks ago but it was pretty much the same ol same ol stuff about race, the 50s, etc etc. all of which is valid but it just seemed reheated old socio-hagios. he deserves much better.

p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 2 February 2009 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

footage of him chillin with bo on the hail chuck berry film is pretty good. he mainly crafts stories in which it will at some point be necessary to go WAAAAAAAA~A~A~AIIIH!, but good watching nonetheless. i've just read this thread and it's way satisfying to see people bringing out i don't know what you've got. so classic! i heard a slightly different take a while ago on some comp which made me wonder whether the version i'd heard before was the famous one.

schlump, Monday, 2 February 2009 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Just realized that the Little Richard songs I grew up with weren't the original Specialty records, but re-recordings done with Vee-Jay in the mid-60s. Though they're generally dismissed by critics, but I actually prefer these later versions -- faster, odder, slightly hoarser vocals, some sort of James Brown-style horn section. Anyone else heard them?

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 16:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

always been curious about those but everyone seems to say theyre not as good as the original versions. but then they prob would say that wouldnt they?

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 16:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

They're just a little punkier and cheaper-sounding -- clearly they're "worse" than the originals, but I like the aesthetic in this context.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 16:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lucille's a good example -- the faster tempo, horns, and slightly unhinged clumsiness of it all just seems to work better: (Re-recording) (Original)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 16:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I suppose I'd agree with you if I'd grown up with the more echoey, hoarse versions, but I didn't so I don't.

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink


m0stlyClean, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

whoah never realized Bonham's opening drumfill in Rock n Roll is a quote of the opening drumfill of Keep a Knockin

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

anyway OMG Little Richard

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, done by the drummer for Richard's live band, The Upsetters, a guy named Charles Connor.

The Great Rick Roll Swindle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

amazing dude - totally loving the drumming on this early stuff

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:37 (seven years ago) Permalink


Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

yes OMG Little Richard! It amazes me continually how we mourn the passing of greats but giants like this still walk among us: I mean, this guy did wild shit with Buddy Holly, and he's still here to tell us about it. And Jerry Lee Lewis too! Elvis has been dead for 30+ years but Little Richard persists, and he was rocking when Elvis was just getting started. Shouldn't there be some way to make good on this while he's still around

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Architect!

Brad C., Wednesday, 24 February 2010 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Shouldn't there be some way to make good on this while he's still around

― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

so otm
unfortunately this felt true of bo diddley and i don't know that there's some dramatic change after death

Norman Mail (schlump), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

amazing dude - totally loving the drumming on this early stuff

sometimes that's his road drummer, but more often than not it's the great earl palmer.

little richard's specialty recordings are totally deathless.

what's the deal with the man hisself? his autobio not only has him coming out, but discusses certain things in, um, graphic detail. but in other contexts he just plays dumb or even offended when asked about his sexuality.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

obviously a complicated man lolz

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hard to summarize his crazy career, but I tried.

Brad C., Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

classic and classic

whatever, Saturday, 18 June 2011 00:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I've got the "Georgia Peach" comp and it's frickin' perfect from start to finish.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 18 June 2011 00:42 (six years ago) Permalink

"Georgia Peach" is brilliant, but volume 2 of the (two-part) series, "Shag On Down By The Union Hall" is even a little better. If you can believe that!

crustaceanrebel, Saturday, 18 June 2011 00:44 (six years ago) Permalink

the vhs wobble on the clip above sounds like some awesome pedal effect

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:01 (six years ago) Permalink

damn the stories about this guy (including those he told)

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:57 (six years ago) Permalink


a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 18 June 2011 02:10 (six years ago) Permalink

You won't do your sister's will

James & Bobby Quantify (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 June 2011 09:49 (six years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

crüt, Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:56 (five years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

80 today. Probably still insane.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:43 (five years ago) Permalink

love him, his nearly unhingedness is just reet.
HAve him popping up on my walkman quite frequently and love it each time.

Also got Esquerita popping up quite a bit, the cd version of his 1st lp. Lovely stuff in places a bit straighter but he's still got that wail which is something else.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:03 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Watch the whole thing. You will not regret.

How I Wrote Matchstick Men (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 04:20 (two years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Hope he had a nice 83rd birthday despite his hip pain since the flawed surgery

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 18:43 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

i cant really listen to prince today but richard is my replacement.

this is a great programme.

id love to hear richard on the radio every week.

also feels fitting as without little richard, im not sure there would be a prince, though princes eventual disavowal of his gender-questioning work/image was one of the things that most dissappointed me about his later career.

StillAdvance, Friday, 22 April 2016 10:23 (one year ago) Permalink

also feels fitting as without little richard, im not sure there would be a prince

Who would have thought he'd outlive him?

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2016 10:52 (one year ago) Permalink

The beauty is still on duty.

Freakshow At The Barn Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2016 11:00 (one year ago) Permalink

i ADORE little richard. why there is no

no richard = no hendrix, prince, and actually, no james brown, cos JB started out as a LR imitator

StillAdvance, Friday, 22 April 2016 11:04 (one year ago) Permalink did Otis Redding.

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:15 (one year ago) Permalink

How dare you revive this thread right now, scared the hell out of me. Jerk.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I did wonder.

Mark G, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm going to start reviving random old musician threads just to freak everyone out. Jerry Lee Lewis c/d. Chuck Berry c/d. George Clinton c/d ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:19 (one year ago) Permalink

RIP Justin Bieber

Mark G, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:21 (one year ago) Permalink

I have wondered if the manic energy translates to modern ears. Have loved him since i first heard him and do hear echoes of him in the Stooges etc etc.
I remember hearing him being played by a DJ at a bnightclub around 20 years ago and thinking it was healthy but did wonder what the teens in the club thought of it since it was just an alterantive club not a specialist place.

BUt yeah that early Specialty stuff is right off the wall and you can see how it would have been revelatory to those hearing it for the first time as near contemporaries back in the mid 50s on both sides of teh Atlantic. Seems to have been an artist that a lot of the people who go onto the moddish beat stuff in the mid 60s and then possibly the harder rock of the 70s cite quite frequently.
The 60s soully stuff is also good.

As is Esquerita his possibly more outrageous contemporary. Worth checking out anyway.

Stevolende, Friday, 22 April 2016 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink

as far as the early rock guys go - Elvis, Chuck, Buddy, Jerry - I rank Little Richard's early singles over all of them just because they *really* rock, in contemporary sonic terms, in the way the others don't. I mean "Keep a Knockin'" is such a beast, it is so frenetic and loud and raucous. The smaller combo-oriented stuff of the other guys, great as they are, doesn't have the same level of propulsion and volume. Like I have a little bit of a hard time picking out which instruments are doing what in that recording, the piano/horns/guitar all kind of smear together in this jumbling orgiastic rhythm. and that voice! goddamn.

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 20:11 (one year ago) Permalink

i love all of those guys but i love richard most of all, he really feels like the one early-rock guy who completely transcends his era and will always sound amazing. oddly i feel like he gets much less attention than some of the others, i don't think i've ever seen anyone discuss his early stuff at length the way ppl will dissect elvis's sun singles or a single chuck berry lyric. that said i've never really delved into any of his post-50s work apart from a few singles -- curious if there's any overlooked classics.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 22 April 2016 21:34 (one year ago) Permalink

More or less agree with last two posts.

Watching the Dortmund 88 video and at 4:20 Prince totally does a Little Richard "shut up," albeit not in Richard's voice.

PiL Communication (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 April 2016 12:10 (one year ago) Permalink

He says it a little around 8:30 too. Maybe it is more common than I thought, although the only two entertainers I have heard say it a lot are Little Richard and Milton Berle.

PiL Communication (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 April 2016 12:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Watched the mtv special on the purple rain premiere and Richard is there, saying 'Prince is this generation's version of me'. There's an interview wuote from Prince saying he wouldn't be bought by a label like they might have bought Richard with a new car or whatever. I've seen Richard interviewed about Prince several times. But never known if they met or performed ever. I fantasized secretly about Prince covering something by him on piano. But can't remember if it ever happened.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 24 April 2016 12:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Just saw some intranetz story on a webboard about Prince snubbing Richard at a Purple Rain afterparty, but not sure of the validity of it.

PiL Communication (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 April 2016 12:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe he gets less attention because his biggest songs (Tutti Frutti, Long Tall Sally, Good Golly Miss Molly) are not necessarily the truly frantic shit (Jenny Jenny, Keep a Knockin', Rip It Up). Part of that might be overexposure and part might be due to many different versions of these songs he recorded. It's like explaining to people who only know I Feel Good that James Brown is the deepest, rawest music ever.

simmel, Sunday, 24 April 2016 13:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Hearing 'I don't know what you've got but it's got a hold on me' a few years ago sent me on a huge Little Richard kick.
Of the early guys, I don't really want to pick one, but I do think Little Richard kind of mops the floor with all of them vocally.

campreverb, Sunday, 24 April 2016 18:15 (one year ago) Permalink

the "You! And You! And You! .... Not You!" at the beginning of Hound Dog cracks me up

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 April 2016 21:35 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Happy 84th!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:23 (one year ago) Permalink

The beauty is *still* on duty!

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Or as Chuck Berry calls him, "Youngster".

pplains, Monday, 5 December 2016 14:48 (one year ago) Permalink

When I saw this thread got revived I had feared 2016 had one last kick in the teeth for us. Long live Little Richard!

DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 5 December 2016 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Happy birthday to the Quasar of Rock

Brad C., Monday, 5 December 2016 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

85 today. Last man standing?

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Well there's the guy standing next to him there....

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:58 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm not sure either of them stand much these days.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:04 (one week ago) Permalink

Bendy--that's what I meant, which one? (You're probably right, Josh.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:11 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah gotcha. Lewis has Satan on his side, unfortunately.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:22 (one week ago) Permalink

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