john peel - 'grime' night - live comment and analysis

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on radio 1 right now people! so far so good.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

john had to get some bloke from 1extra to introduce everyone ha!

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

so far so heavy. - so carrying on from the hype thread do you think that this session will help 'blow grime up'? interpret that as you will.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

said this on the other thread but still:
hahaha john peel compared last nights show to elvis first ever gig or something. ive got soem time for peel really, at least he just didnt phone up rephlex and ask them what it was all about, who should he get into play "well, mark one is really good!". cameo sorted it out for him, and it was poretty good. it went a bit shit when the renegade boys (?! thats yr amsterdam people) started bragging about their conscious lyrics and how bush was a wnaker, but apart from that there were some decent tunes, if not entirely new (saying that, what is new out there?), and it was pretty slick. good to hear a radio show not covered in hiss and crackle and classic fm not drifting in half way thru anyway.

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been listening to 1Xtra on my Freeview box a bit lately. What do other people think of it?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i will try and check this out via the weekly archive if poss. cheers

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:28 (nineteen years ago) link

yes isn't it terrible peel broadcasting a grime session and he had to get someone else to introduce it? he shouldn't have bothered should he?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't have much to say about this other than that I thought it was really good. Got a bit annoyed that Eastwood kept flipping tracks ever thirty seconds, but the MCing was mostly great.

I wonder why Peel's producers have gone for the slightly lower-key West London stuff, as opposed to the Roll Deep/Ruff Sqwad/NASTY stuff or the Rephlex comp that's been getting all the press recently. Maybe it's just because they're Maida Vale locals?

Jason J, Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Marcello - constructive as ever.

___ (___), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i fell asleep halfway through it. when i woke up it was gilles peterson playing his usual '70s cop show themes and not liking the streets.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link

N. I only get snatches of 1xtra via my parent's computer but it's my grime (and dancehall!) lifeline. I have a particular fondness for the Femme Fatale line in "Get Out Of My House" because i've always been bemused by the idea of this blonde bombshell who loves grime and says stuff like "this tune's heavy!" If I was straight I'd probably think she was fit (and fitter than you anyway etc.) too.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 27 May 2004 10:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"Got a bit annoyed that Eastwood kept flipping tracks ever thirty seconds"


hey this is the best thing ever!

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 27 May 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"i fell asleep halfway through it"

this is sort of the best way to listen i reckon. like, you cant (can you?) concentrate all the way thru so just listen to bursts, tune in and out, or do something else, like drive or do the ironing. i love the idea of missing out on loads of things, but hearing snatches of tune, or weird lyrics every so often. this is why music is better in a club, because you hear things you hear just that once, and you know will will probably never hear again. frustrating, but so sweet!!!

gilles peterson, on the other hand, is best to fall asleep the entire way through. and waker up for those weird programmes on bbc world.

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Grime from outsiders/ my perspective

proto sound influences/ inspirations...

A Homboy a Hippie A Funkydread: Total confusion
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Unique 3
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Ruthless Rap Assassins
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Dub
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Techstep Jungle
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Dubstep from a few years back
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MCs on Pirate Radio

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

(xpost to ambrose)

well yes indeed.

"blue jam" i always contrived to listen to when i was sort of dozing off (i assume that was kind of the point of broadcasting it that time at night); it sounded about ten trillion times as frightening and dislocating as when you listen to it fully awake.

a few saturdays ago i dozed off to radio 4. when i awoke they were broadcasting what sounded like an audio-only version of the previous night's TOTP (it was the World Service). it was eerie. it reminded me of being in intensive care after my accident. i didn't have the energy even to switch on a TV, never mind watch one, but i had headphones in which I was able to listen to TV channels in sound only as well as radio channels. that was really weird. that oddly blissful vegetative state of being a totally incapacitated inpatient. i suppose it's the relief of not having to do anything for yourself anymore...even with the pain (which you always blot out in retrospect).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

agreed with blue jam. that was how i heard it when i first tuned in, and it sounded unbelievable, unsure whether you were still listening to radio1, whether you were hearing right, what was going on, etc etc.

also, re wth world service when radio 4 ends. hearing emma someone doing the charts is pretty weird when 30 mins later you have been listening to today in parliament or something. john peels show gets put on there too on some days. its like listening to all of bbc radio refracted through some broken glass.

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I wonder why Peel's producers have gone for the slightly lower-key West London stuff... Maybe it's just because they're Maida Vale locals?

You mean, like, there are different genres of grime for different parts of London, and there are people who can tell the difference?

I have never felt more like a past-it Fifty Quid Bloke in my life.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i liked listening to Worldwide for a while, i thought about picking up GP's new Brazil comp. tho i have no idea what's on it...oop sorry back to the grime

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

ha

"50 Quid Bloke"
http://www.50quid.org/
reads Word magazine

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"You mean, like, there are different genres of grime for different parts of London, and there are people who can tell the difference?"

Hmm, when I said low-key I guess I more meant under-exposed... but I'm sure there's people out there who can argue genre sounds by post-codes.

Jason J, Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I can and I don't even live in London anymore. There is an obvious sonic divide there. Who are the other North London MCs besides Social Circles?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 27 May 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

North London MCs...

J.Me, Big-H, Dan - 'Meridian'

Dimples, Frisco, Cell 22 - 'T.M.T'

General L.O.K - 'Total Package'

Orange - 'Venom Empire'

Dimples, Random Impulse, Method, Ruxspin 'Gunja Fam / Rattle Pack'

I fear there are many more I'm not aware of, but there seems to be a lot going on - Skepta, P Jam, Marsta and Hindzy D are all big producers/djs also from north london.

tinman, Thursday, 27 May 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

social circles are west shurely?!?!

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha West London grime!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:28 (nineteen years ago) link

There are some big crews/MCs in West/North West too.

Flirta D and Ribz from Slaughter Kids (SLK)

NJ Fever and Marciephonix from Dynasty.

Plenty more besides.

tinman, Friday, 28 May 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Donae'o = Kilburn/Harlesden?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"You're not original / Fakes we hunt them" ha GA~!

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 29 May 2004 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

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