Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young: C/D, S/D

http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/rolling-stone/168-1.jpg

"We got a lot of little teenage blue eyed groupies
Who do anything we say
We got a genu-wine Indian Guru
Who's teaching us a better way
We got all the friends that money can buy
So we never have to be alone
And we keep gettin' richer but we can't get our picture
On the cover of the Rollin' Stone"

Just remembered another weird thing--Taylor, seen below on the back cover of the CSN debut, was photoshopped off said cover when it was given the expanded remaster treatment in the mid-2000's.

http://www.lpvinylmusic.com/images/csn.jpg

I got this box for my dad for Xmas and after he burned it to his computer he gave the physical thing back to me and I listened to the whole thing over the long wknd and man...as much as I love Neil, I cannot hang with CSN.

And speaking of Stills ego-gems: I also rewatched the Neil "American Masters" ep (it is up on YouTube) and Stills is talking about "Ohio" as being "almost as good as "For It What's Worth", Neil basically tried to do the same thing I did...I always thought it needed another verse to be great but what do I know?"

"Almost as good"

what does he know indeed

There was a piece on CSN cover photographer Henry Diltz on TV yesterday where he told this story:

On the cover the members are, left to right, Nash, Stills, and Crosby, for no particular reason, the reverse of the order of the album title. The photo was taken by their friend and photographer Henry Diltz before they came up with a name for the group. They found an abandoned house at 815 Palm Avenue, West Hollywood, across from the Santa Palm car wash that they thought would be a perfect fit for their image. A few days later they decided on the name “Crosby, Stills, and Nash”. To prevent confusion, they went back to the house a day or so later to re-shoot the cover in the correct order, but when they got there they found the house had been reduced to a pile of timber.

but when they got there they found the house had been reduced to a pile of timber.

taylor had to be the prime suspect

Croz fell asleep with lit cigarette iirc

haha i love the idea that everyone's been listening to "Ohio" all these years and being like, man song's okay but you know another verse that would really put it over the top

"coulda used a bridge that was all nash n me going 'dee dee doo deeeeeee!'"

this is the dude who said McCartney should stop using the Hofner bass or some shit

think i said it elsewhere, but listening to some of that buffalo springfield stuff you can see why stills could get away with his insane braggadocio. though i don't think he actually delivered on it, at the time he must've seemed wildly talented -- guitar hero, versatile singer, skilled producer, songwriter, etc. not sure who else was quite the entire package -- maybe mccartney is the only real comparison!

In Stills world that's probably high praise!

"Hey Neil you did something that was almost as good as something I already did!"

as opposed to "Bob's no musician"

Xxpost, speaking of which you practically feel Stills thinking "man finally doing this song right!" when they do "Blackbird"

this is the dude who said McCartney should stop using the Hofner bass or some shit

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, July 6, 2015 11:46 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha yeah that's as great one, i think he said "we need to get you a real bass" or something lol

Internet killed Dallas Taylor again today.

think this is the first time he's died?

The rock drummer was a key sideman for Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. He played at Woodstock, appeared on seven top-selling albums and bought three Ferraris. He also stabbed himself in the stomach with a butcher knife and drank so heavily that he required a liver transplant in 1990, five years after becoming sober.

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-dallas-taylor-20150119-story.html

oh lol, you're right, 2015...

welp

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/graham-nash-i-dont-want-anything-to-do-with-david-crosby-20160308

"I don't like David Crosby right now. He's been awful for me the last two years, just fucking awful," Nash said. "I've been there and saved his fucking ass for 45 years, and he treated me like shit. You can't do that to me. You can do it for a day or so, until I think you're going to come around. When it goes on longer, and I keep getting nasty emails from him, I'm done. Fuck you. David has ripped the heart out of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young."

"The truth is, after being totally immersed in me and David and Stephen and Neil's music, I'm done. I've had 10 years of it. Leave me the fuck alone. I need to concentrate on me now."

...he said as he put on a robe and prepared himself for a House Hunters binge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOnZXeHRl40

sad

I'm sure he's had his moments given what a massive drama queen that band collectively is. But Nash seems like a genuinely good guy. Any sense of what he's mad at Crosby for? It sounds like the Croz did something directly to Nash.

According to Ultimate Classic Rock: "Passages that Crosby says were fabricated from Nash’s 2013 memoir Wild Tales: A Rock & Roll Life appear to have soured their relationship. “Graham’s book is full of inaccuracies and chock-full of misinformation,” Crosby said. “When he handed an advance copy to me, he said, ‘It’s too late to change anything, but here it is.’ I was very unhappy about it. It’s a very shallow, very self-serving book, and full of BS."

Apparently Nash was angry at Crosby's harsh words about Neil Young's relationship with Daryl Hannah, whom Crosby termed a gold-digger.

Well, he said that it was something personal beyond the Hannah stuff. But, over a memoir? I find that almost hard to believe. Yet at the same time, so very CSN(and sometimes Y).

He said something nasty? He did something nasty? He said something about something nasty he did?

It's Mr. Crosby if you're nasty...

Lol

Just heard "Carrie Anne" and was inspired to come back to thread to see if there were any new, just breaking developments.

One bar of "Carrie-Anne" or "Look through Any Window" is worth the entire run of CSN.

One note of "Bus Stop" or even "On a Carousel."

OTM

Bus Stop is all time. CSN are very much of a time.

although Scott Miller made me sort of respect Long Time Gone in that Music: What Happened? writeup.

Hey in this video Bobby Elliott is wearing a hat similar to one David Crosby might wear to upstage Roger and Chris in The Byrds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgA4-bLcoN8

Using male pattern baldness to upstage fellow band members, how low can someone sink?

I think Suite Judy is maybe the best thing they ever did
Who sings the high part on “how can you catch the SPARROW?”

And the advice “if you can’t be with the one you love, Love the one you’re with” is utter shit

haha yeah that never made sense to me

I remember hearing that suite for the first time and being very impressed with it, hadn't heard anything like it at the time

can't hang with all of "Deja Vu" but man do I love "Country Girl".

Do love the extended jamming bits of the electric sets. THought the big Sur Down By The River was pretty great when i saw the film, i think tht's 6 minutes there . it was often about 18 odd on the live sets I've heard. & I think the focu8s is a Bit different to Crazy Horse.

Have they made up yet? No? <checks notes> Well, at least we’ll always have this—their last performance—to remember them by:

https://youtu.be/-mLSMbKo-5w

"Country Girl" has always been one of my favourite Neil songs.

Have they made up yet? No? <checks notes> Well, at least we’ll always have this—their last performance—to remember them by:

https://youtu.be/-mLSMbKo-5w🕸

That "Silent Night" clip turns up in the Crosby documentary, but--I also checked another online version--a reaction shot of the Obamas, looking appropriately horrified, has evidently been edited out.

Wonder what’s in that Caitlín R. Kiernan book? Oh I see.

Aldiss is great when he is on though. Maybe somebody should do a POLL. I nominate you, Shakey.

Ha wrong thread.