Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young: C/D, S/D

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First of all: do we obey ALA style and include a comma after "Nash" or no?

Second: the particular harmonies these guys perfected, used to signify a certain strain of "the sixties" for me--the strain I was repulsed by. It's a complicated issue, but I guess their songs seemed to epitomize to me the most banal aspects of the counterculture, the least meaningfully self-reflective, etc. And I guess I always took the music--distinctive as it may be--as a kind of correlative to that. But I'm starting to think again. I doubt I could ever come around to *loving* them but I willing to give it a try.

So either recommend me some good CSN(Y) songs or sound forth with your eminent disapproval. Etc.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I follow Strunk and White..."in the names of business firms the last comma is usually omitted."

Only CSNY song I like is "Pre-Road Downs" from that first album, with just the three of them. Otherwise, I can't stand 'em. Smug, and those harmonies bore into my brain like a dentist's drill.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:29 (sixteen years ago) link

no comma.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:30 (sixteen years ago) link

i recently heard "teach yer children" at a starbuck's near work, and was repulsed by the smugness of it. not a good sign, since i used to kinda like that one.

i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link

the thing is, what is "teach yer children" ABOUT? what is "for what it's worth" about either?

they seem like songs that want to appear "relevant" without actually saying anything at all (see also "ball of confusion" by the temptations).

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:39 (sixteen years ago) link

the CSN harmonies KILL "helpless," BTW. it's just TOO MUCH for what is really a gentle, reflective neil young song. it's like pouring tabasco sauce on a souffle. and i think that CSN realize that, too -- cf the first go-round w/ the last, where CSN tone down the harmonizing a LOT. which leads me to wonder about just whose decision it was to NOT edit out the first go-round of harmonies and if this was one of the things that lead to those legendary and infamous CSNY fights.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Dud baby. They sorta represent 60s mediocrity to me. Anytime I hear them I think of frumpy NPR middle-of-the-road liberals trying to recapture their idealistic, pre-tenured/professional youth.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:44 (sixteen years ago) link

"the CSN harmonies KILL "helpless," BTW. "

no, that recording is utterly beautiful in every respect.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link

the context of "for what it's worth" is actually pretty clear w/n the song -- some sort of street hastling b/w LA youth and LA cops. it may be obscure now b/c it happened almost 40 years ago (and wasn't really all that big a deal compared to other youth/cop dust-ups from that time).

"teach yer children," OTOH, was just hippy sermonizing.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

All I can say is I dare any of you to play 'Looking Forward' in its entirety. A whopper of a stinker, even given the rest of their anemic output. On promo copies the NY closer 'Queen of Them All' was mislabelled 'Queen of The Mall' which just about sums it up for me.

rumple, Monday, 24 May 2004 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

no, that recording is utterly beautiful in every respect.

well, it would be if not for CSN harmonies. i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here ... :-)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

the context of "for what it's worth" is actually pretty clear w/n the song -- some sort of street hastling b/w LA youth and LA cops. it may be obscure now b/c it happened almost 40 years ago (and wasn't really all that big a deal compared to other youth/cop dust-ups from that time).


yeah i know the context, but the song still seems hopelessly equivocal and sometimes incoherent.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

What's that one, later on, that tells what happens when you see the southern cross for the first time? Is that CSN(Y)?

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link

No (Y) on that one.

jim wentworth (wench), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Cs = N/(Y)

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I really dislike "Wasted on the Way."

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 24 May 2004 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

as long as we're discussing "for what it's worth," it's worth pointing out that that one isn't a CSNY song.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 24 May 2004 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link

My boyfriend likes them. They nauseate me. To counterattack he hates the Smiths.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Monday, 24 May 2004 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...
how about the albums these guys released as various duos? any of those worthwhile?

gear (gear), Thursday, 6 July 2006 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link

No but 'If I Could Only Remember My Name' by David Crosby is so brilliantly fucked up just listening to it makes my teeth go numb.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Thursday, 6 July 2006 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't remember which album it is off the top of my head, but one of the Crosby/Nash albums has some amazing material on it. super spaced out stuff like on the "If I Could Only Remember My Name" album.

the reason i can't remember which one it is is because they look identical.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf300/f330/f33067crhvi.jpg http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd900/d947/d94749sn54p.jpg

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Thursday, 6 July 2006 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

here's the deal. all of these albums combined won't cost you more than like 10-20$ in the used vinyl racks. if you like the general sound these guys make (which i LOVE) you're gonna find something worthwhile on almost all of them.

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Thursday, 6 July 2006 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i like all this stuff. i was listening to csn's debut album last night, windows open, drinking a beer. good times.

what else would you recommend along these lines that isn't related to csn or y?

gear (gear), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Bobby Brown "Enlightening Beam Of Axonda"

I found $41 on the ground today, so let's talk about Psychedelic Country!

and all the byrds related projects (even though that is related to c)

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Thursday, 6 July 2006 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"Almost Cut My Hair" (the long version) and "Deja Vu" — when The Croz was on, he was boss.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

the s/t is a classic. it's got that sky-high 70's M*A*S*H* theme tune vibe.

ZOT! (davidcorp), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

(yeah, the record came out in the sixties. but mash didn't. I think....)

ZOT! (davidcorp), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I never owned anything but I've always liked them (long before I ever got into solo Neil Young) and never understood the hate. "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" sounded magical when I was a kid.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Early Little Feat

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" sounded magical when I was a kid.

Still does, to me.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

The Fantastic Expedition of Dillard and Clark is kinda ground zero for the late-60s and early-70s fusion of West Coast rock, pop, country, and bluegrass. I think more so than any other record from the Byrds/Buffalo Springfield axis. It's just perfect.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 6 July 2006 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll second that Little Feat recommendation. If you are so inclined, I *highly* recommend that you head over to the Live Music Archive and download this September 19, 1974 Little Feat show. Here's the setlist:

1. Rock and Roll Doctor
2. Two Trains
3. The Fan
4. On Your Way Down
5. Spanish Moon >
6. Skin It Back >
7. Fat Man In The Bath Tub
8. Oh Atlanta
9. Willin'

It's a really, really excellent quality Pre-FM broadcast recording. Out of my entire bootleg collection, this is the one show I keep coming back to the most. It's just so fuckin' good. Better than the studio recordings, even (IMHO). They're on fire, I tells ya! Now go get it! *pant pant pant* ;)

Mama Roux (Mama Roux), Thursday, 6 July 2006 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

more threads of stuff like this Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Friday, 7 July 2006 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

and i'm listening to the self titled crosby/nash and there have been moments where i've literally had to stop writing/reading and just listen because they're so beautiful

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre300/e349/e34945e0x9d.jpg

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Friday, 7 July 2006 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for that outtakes link...holy fuck indeed.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 7 July 2006 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

those crosby files on that page are awesome! how the hell do i save them to my computer? : (

gear (gear), Saturday, 8 July 2006 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

right click save to desktop, d00d (or should i say n00b?)

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Saturday, 8 July 2006 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

n00b : (

gear (gear), Saturday, 8 July 2006 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm definitely a fan of CSNY. Harmonies are fantastic imho.

shorty (shorty), Saturday, 8 July 2006 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

David Crosby is obviously a guy with some problems, but he wrote a handful of really amazing melodic songs. Deja Vu has a great arrangement, that last part is almost if Steve Reich was writing a pop song. Wooden Ships is also a really lovely tune and it has pretty morbid lyrics for such a good melody.

I got to see them on a free ticket a few years ago and I was really amazed by how well they can hit those harmonies live.

Hating on CSNY is like making fun of your ex-hippy uncle that teaches middle school.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 9 July 2006 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Bobby Brown "Enlightening Beam Of Axonda"

thats really good then? i always look at it in the store but am suspicious of it. maybe its the book cover packaging

CSNY is pretty great and I've been wanting to check out "If I Could Only Remember My Name" for awhile now

XD (eman), Sunday, 9 July 2006 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I've only ever heard their half-dozen most familiar songs; and of those, "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" is the only one I really like. But that's a good one indeed, with the highly rhythmic rockin' acoustics and the "Doo doo doo"s riding the song out to the finish. And that's about all there is. (Never even liked "Helpless" either.)

Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Sunday, 9 July 2006 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link

All I can say is I dare any of you to play 'Looking Forward' in its entirety. A whopper of a stinker, even given the rest of their anemic output

People be saying crazy things.

marc h. (marc h.), Sunday, 9 July 2006 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I would say they are classic for those two first albums (including the CSN one). Of course, the rest are dud.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 July 2006 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

but of course

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Sunday, 9 July 2006 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i picked up the nash/crosby album last night and it's pretty ace. between immersing myself in that and those crosby mp3's and what not it's been a pretty awesome weekend.

gear (gear), Sunday, 9 July 2006 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

No thread just on Graham Nash, so I thought I'd just revive this instead.

I'm listening to Songs For Beginners and it's gorgeous. I can't get enough of the group of musicians surrounding CSNY around 1970, including Garcia, Lesh, Grace Slick, and so on; the PERRO thing. This record is part of this group. "I Used To Be A King" is a highlight.

Evidently Nash has a retrospective box set coming out later this year. Does anyone know anything else about this?

And did any of you pick up the Crosby box last year? And was it any good? I love the outtakes from "If I Could Only Remember My Name" (linked to earlier in this thread), but evidently these didn't come out on the box. I'd love a box of just the PERRO stuff.

Euler, Friday, 25 July 2008 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

and i'm listening to the self titled crosby/nash and there have been moments where i've literally had to stop writing/reading and just listen because they're so beautiful

Yes - this is a really really good record and I don't know anything at all about the rest of the CSNY universe. Search "Immigration Man" if nothing else.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 26 July 2008 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

*liked

birdistheword, Thursday, 25 March 2021 09:51 (three weeks ago) link

Holy shit, I've never seen that. Where's the rest of the song?

righteous oxide (PBKR), Thursday, 25 March 2021 12:16 (three weeks ago) link

It's not just dutiful loyalty to Stills, I think he genuinely feels a flash of that 1966 feeling when they play together, even if no-one else can feel it anymore.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:26 (three weeks ago) link

And most important of all, he didn’t need them artistically or commercially a fraction as much as they needed him.

Is this true, commercially speaking? I would have thought the CS&N sold more records and was a bigger concert draw than Neil.

mizzell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:37 (three weeks ago) link

I think you can make the case that in 1988 Neil’s commercial fortunes were not what they were or would be. And I believe that documentary said, though I may have been nodding off, that while the 1974 tour sold a boatload of tickets it wasn’t nearly as profitable as it should’ve been. So while not the slam dunk it was artistically after 1970, I think the commercial case for playing with them was mixed at best.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:48 (three weeks ago) link

The simple answer to the OP: Young likes working with them in drib and drab.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:04 (three weeks ago) link

Also, CSNY at least early in their tenure looked like the rare group whose members genuinely liked playing on each other's songs.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:05 (three weeks ago) link

Holy shit, I've never seen that. Where's the rest of the song?

It's from a short-lived TV show called Music Scene, which had a unique 45-minute runtime (w/commercials!) that CSNY had to share with like six or seven acts, so they couldn't jam out completely.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:32 (three weeks ago) link

one thing Neil claims at the beginning of waging heavy peace is that whenever he gets “a lot of money” he throws it into investments/projects with varying levels of success. Biodiesel, model trains, the bridge school probably... can’t remember specifics

brimstead, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:44 (three weeks ago) link

Doghouses, iirc.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:52 (three weeks ago) link

all the real heads know that the real shit is Crosby Still Nash Young & Jones.

(crosby's face in this, and his eyes....)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIDzA0YDso8

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:53 (three weeks ago) link

Damn Stephen with some high notes on that

calstars, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:45 (three weeks ago) link

I think you can make the case that in 1988 Neil’s commercial fortunes were not what they were or would be.

Part of the real tension in "Muddy Track" of the fractious 87 Euro tour is shows are getting cancelled and it is pretty clear Neil was a pretty low-ebb and to be fair to that stone cold piece of garbage American Dream (the cassette of which my dad had in his car and played when he would drive me to school, it is amazing I ever gave Neil a chance after that) is he did promise to make it if CROZ got his shit together, though of all the promises Neil has made over the yrs it does seem strange that is the ONE he decided to keep

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:56 (three weeks ago) link

Just listen to Crosby's "Cowboy Movie" and you'll see why these four are bonded for life.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:06 (three weeks ago) link

Didn't realize that Music Scene clip upthread is edited. Here's the whole thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5icrWZnl_1w

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:13 (three weeks ago) link

is Coz playing that electric rhythm guitar or is it the coke

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:14 (three weeks ago) link

rereading shakey right now and just read about how embarrassed neil was at doing the tom jones show, ha

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:34 (three weeks ago) link

The thing that always kind of surprises me about all their fractious bullshit is that these guys were never building the Sistine Chapel. From the jump, their best stuff was mostly comprised of simple pleasures. Yes, Neil added some grit and substance but it was largely catchy acoustic ditties, slightly dippy lyrics, a little bit of light jamming, and those sumptuous harmonies.

I get that they all came from big time bands and the expectations that they maybe should’ve been more than that. But no one who goes to a CSN or CSNY concert or listens to one their albums is totally bummed if they don’t blow our minds with next level political statements or mindbending song structures. I mean, all they had to do was remake the first two records a few times over with the help of some outside writers and no one would’ve really complained.

And yet, there is a portentousness to almost everything they did after those records—the fights, tours, celebrated reunions, and blowouts—that suggests they were always on the cusp of ... something. All of which contrasts rather strikingly to the reality of their actual output, which ranges from intermittently satisfactory at best to uniformly pitiful post-1982.

I mean, drugs + money + ego. I get it. But still.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:29 (three weeks ago) link

Dear Stephen, etc.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 March 2021 12:50 (three weeks ago) link

Pristine upload of Webley show during said gross 1974 tour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3To8bmGLA-0

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 29 March 2021 04:44 (three weeks ago) link

(Wembley)

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 29 March 2021 04:45 (three weeks ago) link

As gross as that tour was, it was still a high-water mark of Rock'n'Roll Mutton Chops.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 March 2021 06:04 (three weeks ago) link

Been watching this in piecemeal form the past few days. Just got into the acoustic portion and on one of Croz's numbers (whatever the one is after "The Lee Shore") Still is singing WHILE HOLDING A BABY.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 April 2021 21:11 (two weeks ago) link

It's not a baby, fool: it's a doll stuffed with coke.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 April 2021 21:25 (two weeks ago) link

STILLS: We were the first band to do coke babies on-stage. I got the idea during some downtime in a little bar in Da Nang back in my special ops days. It took a little while to realize it though; Neil kept saying they didn't look and sound real enough. Crosby tried to eat one.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 April 2021 21:42 (two weeks ago) link

Well, yeah.

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 23:11 (two weeks ago) link

Surprisingly, they manage a convincing version of "Johnny's Garden", which is pretty delicate.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 3 April 2021 00:42 (two weeks ago) link

I want to know a tally and ranking of how much blow was done when the members were off stage. Somehow I think Nash comes in last

calstars, Saturday, 3 April 2021 01:21 (two weeks ago) link

Back At It: Holy Shit, the second song in the second electric set IS A STILLS BONGO JAM.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 01:21 (one week ago) link

IIRC,Santana was one of openers on the tour, more or less the same lineup that's on Lotus (ie, a bunch of pedigreed Jazz dudes). Having visions of Stills walking up to one of those guys and saying, "Outta the way! This is how we play drums...".

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 01:31 (one week ago) link

Back At It: Holy Shit, the second song in the second electric set IS A STILLS BONGO JAM.

Same ones he plays on You Should Be Dancing by The Bee Gees?

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 01:38 (one week ago) link

Possibly!

Finished it up today, and mainly right now want to point out that "Pushed It Over The End" was completely cut out of the version linked here. There's another, longer upload of the same show that was added a week later, but for some reason there's less than a minute of the track before an awkward cut to the next song.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:57 (one week ago) link

it seems a fairly obscure point to make now, but CSN/CSNY would have been considered the dominant American rock group in the early 70s up to 74. Pre Eagles, pre Mac, pre the rise of Aerosmith/Kiss/Nugent and the american hesher/butt rock/hard rock cohort; they had a certain gravitas, in that they emblemized the post hippie tropes and behavior that everyone understood was the way rock stars were supposed to comport themselves, against the war, shit tons of drugs, Cros getting a blow jobs from two women before a show while he was screaming orders at someone (per this Barney Hoskyns book from 2012); malcontents like the Stooges and the Dolls hated them, as did those bands acolytes who would soon emerge out of the CBs scene and then onwards…the mainstream rock band ideal was to be huge, and despite not making recordings past Deja Vu that many people were crazy about (although I suppose '77s CSN was pretty popular, generating radio fare that stood head to toe with the Eagles and Mac), they were the hugest american rock band. Before the developments I mentioned prior, who else was bigger than they? Dylan & the Band? The Dead? the Allmans? Doobies? James Taylor or any other singer-songwriters (which they more or less were part of)?…

Stills and Cros in particular appear to be utterly loathsome to me; Cros is fond of blaming Napster through streaming for his present financial woes, whereas anyone who was as successful as he was for as long as he was has not one single solitary person or activity to blame other than himself and the deeply stupid, selfish, heedless and blinkered behavior —not just drugs— that he has perpetrated for 55 fucking years.

veronica moser, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 22:25 (one week ago) link

yeah croz rebranding as a stoner gramps not one of the sleaziest l.a. predators is really grating

McDonough's Young bio alerted to me to just how huge CSN and CSNY were, and, yeah, they were, no question, the biggest rock band in the world after Zep but with the generational gravitas.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 22:44 (one week ago) link

I think my introduction to Crosby was through the merciless shellacking he got as a '60s burnout who barely made it to rehab. When I finally looked into the Byrds, I was surprised that he not only was a member but that he did indeed have a substantial musical legacy. (I thought CSN was the only band he was associated with, and I don't remember anyone in school listening, much less liking, their music.) I can't emphasize enough how much of a surprise that was. The first time I saw his cameo on The Simpsons, the joke with Barney had NO set-up to me - like why on earth would he be a hero to anyone for his music? I never heard anyone talk about anything he's made, just his drug intake. Well, I did know "Turn! Turn! Turn!" (which was featured in an earlier episode), but it was made by a faceless band for all I knew.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 22:59 (one week ago) link

he was way third banana to mcguinn and clark songwriting wise tho

TRUE. Docked another notch for fucking "Mind Gardens."

birdistheword, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:29 (one week ago) link

definite case of lost potential. the solo debut and the box set covering all the rest are really all you could need:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_(David_Crosby_album)

i like the debut far far more than any solo stills (inc manassas) or nash and probably better than the majority of Neil solo lps. a shame it's so solitary.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 09:39 (one week ago) link

saying that, his recent few jazzy things with his son in the band are not terrible listens. not strong songs but he still sounds nice.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 09:39 (one week ago) link

Crosby gave a free show at Lincoln Center two summers ago. The first and only time I've gone to any of his solo shows - I mean, it was FREE, and by the end, I was standing more or less right in front of the stage. Anyway, it was surprisingly good - not only was the band good, but his voice held up really well and the setlist hit all of the high points from the Byrds and CSN&Y ("Long Time Gone" and especially a pissed off "Ohio" that closed the show). The one disappointment was "Eight Miles High," which had a poor arrangement. Coincidentally, Roger McGuinn played a show a few months earlier - his first solo show in NYC in quite a while (his only other recent show was the Sweetheart of the Rodeo 50th anniversary tour stop), and it was at a venue that was within walking distance of Lincoln Center. The highlight of that show was "Eight Miles High," and even with just McGuinn on acoustic with no backing, it was amazing to hear as he turned it into an extended improvisation. No surprise, his guitar playing always made that record.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 14:27 (one week ago) link

it seems a fairly obscure point to make now, but CSN/CSNY would have been considered the dominant American rock group in the early 70s up to 74

Their main competition for that honor would have been Grand Funk Railroad, who amazingly scored five platinum and two gold albums during that time frame plus broke all kinds of live attendance records, though seemingly without accumulating any gravitas along the way. It's kind of a mystery where all the Grand Funk fans went, and why they're a non-entity to younger generations. Contrastingly, it appears that the CSN(Y) catalog has had a long commercial afterlife.

Josefa, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:07 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKmsvRXE4A

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:12 (one week ago) link

I'm not a fan, but Dez Dickerson was, so they did influence some of my absolute favorite music. Maybe not the primary influence, but Dez had some great guitar solos ("Little Red Corvette" in particular).

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:14 (one week ago) link

OMG

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 06:19 (three days ago) link

'No Nukes: Muse Concert For a Non-Nuclear Future' publicity shot, NYC, 1979 (with David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Jackson Browne, Graham Nash, Jesse Colin Young, John Hall, Phoebe Snow, Carly Simon, Michael McDonald, James Taylor and Bonnie Raitt) pic.twitter.com/WpqJ7l7VXJ

— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) April 18, 2021



The gang in 79

calstars, Sunday, 18 April 2021 22:16 (yesterday) link

Nuclear weapons: bad!
Now let’s party

calstars, Sunday, 18 April 2021 22:17 (yesterday) link

JT not sure which one is his wife.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 April 2021 22:20 (yesterday) link

Carly's plaid jumpsuit is quite something.

Jurassic parkour (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 April 2021 22:52 (yesterday) link


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