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Bland pop punk + bad imitation of Geddy Lee shrill = AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH MAKE IT GO AWAY NOOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I hate their sound, I hate their aesthetic, but most of all, I hate that guy's hair.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I couldn't tell who the band was in the video, because they had all these far scarier looking actor types lip-syncing the video instead

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i made all my friends listen to this to show them what never to do with music.

chaki_burger (chaki), Sunday, 23 May 2004 19:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I, er, um, uh... I rather like em.

adam (adam), Sunday, 23 May 2004 19:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The only band i can stand with a close enough vocal timbre like that is the Toy Dolls. But they're the Toy Dolls!

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 23 May 2004 20:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

when did all the "punk" and "hardcore" bands switch to this awful photoshopped, grainy, puke green/brown/red, sans serif design scheme?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 23 May 2004 20:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sans serif is great fool! Fuck a serif!

adam (adam), Sunday, 23 May 2004 20:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I only practice serif. I don't want to put myself in risk of catching anything.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 23 May 2004 20:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I HATE

David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 23 May 2004 22:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They're about as "punk" as Night Ranger.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 23 May 2004 22:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And about as prog of Styx (or Rush).

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 24 May 2004 14:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I say I hate them now but I have some weird-ass Law of Averages thing that will probably make me end up liking them FOR NO REASON. In the meantime, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 24 May 2004 19:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The guy who DJ's the friendly neighborhood Sunday night local & indie show loves these guys and I can't figure out why. I don't find them particularly off-putting, but, at the same time, I don't hear much to be excited about.

But then again, this is 30-something guy who also loves Bright Eyes. If you can't see through that schtick once you reach your mid-twenties, you may be a lost cause.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 24 May 2004 20:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
"A Flavor House Atlantic" (their big single) is seriously my best song this summer. I can understand that a lot of people would be put off by this kind of thing, but I would have imagined that some of the people on this website would love this song. I had heard it many times on my MP3 before seeing the video, which was a disappointment. The rest of the album is painfully disappointing too, but that single! This and the Yellowcard "Ocean Avenue" are seriously IT and I'm genuinely shocked that ILMERS don't mention this stuff more (i guess it has been a few months, but there's a new Usher Raymond 'Burn' thread) Well, hopefully this will spark some discussion of that particular single...are you in or are you out?

Aaron Spelling (AaronSpelling), Sunday, 1 August 2004 11:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I hate their sound, I hate their aesthetic, but most of all, I hate that guy's hair.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), May 23rd, 2004.

OTM.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 1 August 2004 12:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

good eye, sniper...

Aaron Spelling (AaronSpelling), Sunday, 1 August 2004 12:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

you ARE a satanist.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 1 August 2004 13:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
It's really neat that Journey got Geddy Lee to sing for them.
oh wait...

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yikes. This song is fucking atrocious, I can't believe that someone would call it the best song this summer.

And this is coming from someone who will have "Ocean Avenue" in their top 25 singles of the year.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Wanker House Autistic

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I know a guy in a frat-pop band who likes them because they're "objectivist".

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'd rather listen to this than read The Fountainhead again.

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've never heard them but I can't get past the fact that the band name sounds like something out of a Pottery Barn catalog.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Download A Flavor House Atlantic, it almost rocks as much as "Don't Stop Believin".

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"I've never heard them but I can't get past the fact that the band name sounds like something out of a Pottery Barn catalog."

...or a Scott Herren side project.

earlnash, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Crimson and Clover, over and over

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

how dare you besmirch "Dont Stop Believin"

dontyouever stop, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A Fever Louse Epileptic has better lyrics?:
your eyes tell the stories of a day you wish you could
recall the moments that once have
retract the footsteps that brought us to this favor
i wouldn't ask this of you

good eye sniper
i'll shoot you run

the words you scribbled on the walls
the loss of friends, you didn't have
i'll call you when the time is right
are you in or are you out
for them all to know the end of us all

run quick they're behind us
didn't think we'd ever make it
this close to safety in one piece
now you want to kill me
in the act of what could maybe
save us from sleep and what we are

good eye sniper
i'll shoot you run

the words you scribbled on the walls
the loss of friends, you didn't have
i'll call you when the time is right
are you in or are you out
for them all to know the end of us all

bye, bye beautiful
don't bother to write
disturbed by your words and they're calling all cars
face step let down, face step...step down

the words you scribbled on the walls
the loss of friends, you didn't have
i'll call you when the time is right
are you in or are you out
for them all to know

bye, bye beautiful
don't bother to write
disturbed by your words and they're calling all cars
face step let down, face step...step down

bye, bye beautiful
don't bother to write
disturbed by your words and they're calling all cars
face step let down, face step...step down

VS

Just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world
She took the midnight train goin' anywhere
Just a city boy, born and raised in south Detroit
He took the midnight train goin' anywhere

A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on

Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searching in the night
Streetlights people, living just to find emotion
Hiding, somewhere in the night

Working hard to get my fill,
everybody wants a thrill
Payin' anything to roll the dice,
just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on

(chorus)

Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlight people

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Nah.

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This Coheed guy has kinda got that Alanis Morissette/high school poetry fucked up syntax in a transparent attempt to sound deeper than you really are thing going on.

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I know a guy in a frat-pop band who likes them because they're "objectivist".

I hope you punch him in the kidneys a lot and laugh as he writhes in pain.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You know, I think "A Favor House Atlantic" sounds more like Placebo than anything else.
God help me, I'm starting to like it. I'm NOT saying it doesn't suck, I just like bad music sometimes.

SOMEONE TRIED TO DO ME ACHE!

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They're nothing to be proud about enjoying, which I don't entirely, but I don't hate them nearly as much as Simple Plan, New Found Glory, Good Charlotte, etc. On one of those late Sunday night radio shows, I heard a song that is apparently titled "The Velourium Camper III: Al The Killer" according to the program's website, which I thought was surprisingly decent.

I give them a 5 out of 10.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't hate them nearly as much as Simple Plan, New Found Glory, Good Charlotte, etc.

OTM, but the funny thing is I think if they looked more like those Good Charlotte or New Found Glory fucking mallpunk tards even if the song was exactly the same I would hate him just as much.

Or something like that...

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I actually like "A Favour House Atlantic", but I really don't want to hear that voice for more than a few minutes at a time.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That's the thing...though the single has grown on me there's no way IN HELL I'm buying the CD.

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That's the thing...though the single has grown on me there's no way IN HELL I'm buying the CD.

Yeah, screechy pop-punk in prog clothing is still screechy pop-punk.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

Richard Christy turned me on to these guys. They have some really good moments.

calstars, Friday, 13 February 2009 21:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

do you wear a diaper when you listen to them

charleston chain (jeff), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol

i saw this kid wearing a Scary Kids Scaring Kids t-shirt just a while ago in my dorm and it reminded me how much i positively loathe warped tour bands and anything associated therewith

some black dude (k3vin k.), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

coheed was dope when i saw them at warped back when i was a freshman in hs

other awesome bands that day:

rufio
billy talent
yellowcard (i fronted)
new found glory (MY FRIENDS OVER YOU)
international noise conspiracy (lol wtf)

that's all i remember - it was really fun tho

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

My gf's little brother was really into these guys a few years ago and played a few tracks for me. I couldn't think of one single polite thing to say to him about their music.

It is not enough to love mankind – you must be able to stand (Michael White), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

C&C was great! Second Stage Turbine Blade and In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth 3 are both kickass albums. I kinda fell off with their new stuff, but those two are great.

Mordy, Friday, 13 February 2009 21:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

*deep breath*

OK, I'm being forced to see these guys - and these guys alone (we're parachuting in and out) - at Sonisphere tomorrow. I have never knowingly heard a note of their music and by christ I'm not exactly looking forward to doing so having read this thread.

I'm staring at their Spotify page and it scares me. Where do I start? Do I have a chance of appreciating them on any level if my "standard" taste leans towards Pulp, Cornelius, The Cure, Belle & Sebastian and The Flaming Lips?

God I'm such an indie cliche...

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Friday, 31 July 2009 09:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

They are like the emo version of Rush. If you like emo music and/or Rush, then you may have a chance at liking it.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 31 July 2009 14:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

The voice is the biggest stumbling block, to be sure. If you can get past that, or find some way to ignore it, I think they do have some pretty interesting instrumental compositions. Just don't try to follow the lyrics or try to work out any narrative, you'll just drive yourself effing crazy.

3 mods 1 banhammer (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 31 July 2009 14:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think they toured with the Cure a few years ago.

akm, Friday, 31 July 2009 14:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

based on the few songs i heard when this band was getting big, the voice was the only worthwhile part imo

SNaKaTTaK (goole), Friday, 31 July 2009 14:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Woooow this thread is full on pretentiousness by people who came to the party almost a decade late (they peaked in '02, '04 ish), then continue to slam them when only hearing a sample of their work.

Second stage turbine blade is a great 'emo' album. And when these kids grow up having nostalgia for New Found Glory, Good Charolotte etc. you will all be hoping Coheed and Cambria were on the radio instead.

Dreamland, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 01:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Not talking about the latest comments btw

Dreamland, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 01:12 (four years ago) Permalink

i still rate second stage turbine + in keeping secrets of silent earth

yep, second stage is a lost sunny day real estate album. i like year of the black rainbow more than most but both of the recent afterman records are better and probably their best since keeping secrets

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 02:28 (four years ago) Permalink

afterman also contains a fake thin lizzy song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHF43aE4yog

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 02:29 (four years ago) Permalink

also think this is the most gorgeous song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXSyatjWo1E

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 02:33 (four years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

New song from their first NON-concept album? I don't know how I feel about it yet, especially because I came to really love Afterman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydkfdq0Xggo

hourspass, Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:26 (three years ago) Permalink

lyrics stink, song is fun. they'll never top "good eye, sniper. here I'll shoot, you run."

Mordy, Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:28 (three years ago) Permalink

been listening to 'IV' a lot recently ..
(i know its not the real album title, but thats all i can recall)
no idea re the rest of their catalogue, but i cannot deny i like their new prog thing.
however, do i need more ?
i suspect not.

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:49 (three years ago) Permalink

Which IV? From Fear or No World? I was really into Vol. 1 when I was younger and only recently started to appreciate Vol. 2.

hourspass, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:02 (three years ago) Permalink

ooh .. ok .. hang on :

'Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV : From Fear Through The Eyes of Madness'

the cardboard sleeve just has a massive 'IV'on it, so just assumed that was what the album had become known as ..

(still no idea as to how that answers your question !)

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:10 (three years ago) Permalink

Just curious. I've been starting to appreciate all the stuff that I didn't care about before (except for Year of the Black Rainbow, which I can't get into).

This is the most cursing I've ever heard in a Coheed song, and I wonder if it is indicative of what we should expect from this album.

hourspass, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:14 (three years ago) Permalink

oh lol i was going to rep the afterman and then saw i did upthread. i think it's kind of their best record after second stage turbine blade at this point

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:18 (three years ago) Permalink

excited for the new record, doubly excited that the new song kinda sounds like boston/the cult

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:18 (three years ago) Permalink

these answers tell me nothing re the album i have !

(and whether it is representative of their groove .. )

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:28 (three years ago) Permalink

i mean, is mine part of a 'story', or a one off !!?

i get very confused re this lot.

something that never happens re black veiled brides ..

ahem.

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:29 (three years ago) Permalink

oh lol

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:30 (three years ago) Permalink

you have the first volume of good apollo i'm burning star iv, which is the fourth chapter of the series

the second half of iv is called no world for tomorrow. it is less good but still pretty ok

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:31 (three years ago) Permalink

if you want more songs in line with the record you're digging, i recommend in keeping secrets of silent earth:3 and also the afterman

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:32 (three years ago) Permalink

but yeah it's a very representative record, even though the last four tracks on good apollo i'm burning star iv from fear through the eyes of madness (christ) are the proggiest they ever get

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:33 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh, sorry. Yeah, pretty much everything ^^ has said.
I think that Vol. 1 might have been their most popular album? It's pretty good, and he's totally right about In Keeping Secrets.
As far as the story, I think it's the end of that story arc with Claudio? It's either the end or close to the end. Year of the Black Rainbow is a sort of prequel and Afterman is Sirius Amory.

I think I just outed myself as a giant CoCa nerd.

hourspass, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:42 (three years ago) Permalink

lol right i think once you write a prequel to a prequel it's prob time to stop

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:58 (three years ago) Permalink

ta people.

i'm still confused.

and people laff at my love of 70s prog !

so, in summary, i would be best buying more black veil brides albums.

(i really really like 'wretched and divine' )

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:56 (three years ago) Permalink

one thing i really dislike about good apollo iv vol 1 is uh how misogynistic it is? and it is literally the only coheed record like that

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:57 (three years ago) Permalink

ahh .. i need to listen more closely then.

or then again, perhaps not ..

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:59 (three years ago) Permalink

never been one to listen to lyrics that closely (unless its jim foetus.. )

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:59 (three years ago) Permalink

i mean i didn't even realize it until i revisited it last week

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:01 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

never has a band fluctuated in quality more between albums but i'm psyched they're getting back down to prog tacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zm1_JSPOQ

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 14:11 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

huh this is the most emo they've sounded since good apollo 1???????? also this song is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsoD6RVulcQ

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 14:12 (three months ago) Permalink

idk imago and simon h. to thread??

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 14:36 (three months ago) Permalink

coheed was dope when i saw them at warped back when i was a freshman in hs

other awesome bands that day:

rufio
billy talent
yellowcard (i fronted)
new found glory (MY FRIENDS OVER YOU)
international noise conspiracy (lol wtf)

that's all i remember - it was really fun tho

― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 13, 2009 2:08 PM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good post

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 14:37 (three months ago) Permalink

woah @ that song. Black Parade vibes with the guitar arrangement

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 18 August 2018 18:18 (three months ago) Permalink

Simon otm. The guitar on the chorus is my favourite thing they've done in ages.

tangenttangent, Saturday, 18 August 2018 20:05 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm trying to avoid hyperbole but I think "The Gutter" might be my new fave song of theirs, though I skipped the last couple releases

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Sunday, 19 August 2018 17:49 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6Dz0JRifU

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:22 (two months ago) Permalink

this is sounding like the record I always wanted them to make

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:29 (two months ago) Permalink

i'm listening to it now and i think it might be!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:37 (two months ago) Permalink

"toys" is incredible

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

sigh, I want to love this but the ludicrous length + lack of variation are brutal to me, idk why I'm surprised cause it's their whole thing much of the time but it still bugs me. once I figure out a ten-track edit I'll probably love it.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 October 2018 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah the length really sucks

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink

i mean the songs are all really good but this album doesn't breathe at all

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink

"toys" is still the fucking best

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 22:10 (two months ago) Permalink

this is basically a power metal album

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 23:38 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIF2a0eEUiI

this song rules so much

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 October 2018 00:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Brad I'm gonna let you finish but this is emphatically not power metal

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 6 October 2018 00:33 (two months ago) Permalink

nb I am enjoying it though I like my C&C proggier

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 6 October 2018 00:33 (two months ago) Permalink

oh i just meant in the density of hooks and the unnecessary length! also, same

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 October 2018 00:41 (two months ago) Permalink

should’ve made my re-coheedwagon joke instead

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 October 2018 01:22 (two months ago) Permalink

a nice side effect of this record is it made me revisit no world for tomorrow which is way more awesome than i remembered it being especially this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGpqtO6Vd_k

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 23:34 (two months ago) Permalink

every time i hear "time consumer" i get impressed all over again that it is basically a mid-'90s emo song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1eAdCEvdv4

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 12 October 2018 13:07 (two months ago) Permalink

this is probably the only band i love where i think the debut towers over everything else

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 12 October 2018 13:08 (two months ago) Permalink


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