Def Leppard 'Hysteria': C/D?

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Releasing a ballad as the first single off an album is generally considered a bad move in the biz unless you want to establish yourself as a balladeer. "Love Bites" is obviously a strong song, but Def Leppard were mainly for "rock" audiences, and "Love Bites" might have put way too many of them off the album.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Sure, but there were more memeorable rockers on the lp than "Women."

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

No, I meant that if the #3 single was going to be a ballad, why release "Hysteria" instead of "Love Bites"?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Hysteria's the best song on the album, and Love Bites is one of the more grating power ballads ever

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 5 October 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Today I saw a video for "Pour Some Sugar On Me" that I'd never seen before. The band is playing in what looks like somebody's living room. As they play, a wrecking ball begins destroying the building, and the room starts crumbling around them presumably due to a combination of the demolition crew and the strength of the band's own rocking.

I'd never seen this vid before -- the one that always used to air featured the band playing on a huge concert stage (IIRC, the same one as the video for "Armageddon It"). The "living room" video looks a bit amateurish, so did they simply film a new one once the album went mega?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Probably. That does sound interesting/weird.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Good ol' Youtube

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"Animal" is my favorite.

Animal>Hysteria>everything else on Hysteria

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

dud. dud.

dud. dud. dud.

dud. dud. dud. dud. dud. dud. dud. dud.

god, no. def leppard? you've got to be kidding me...potentially the worst band of all time. and I speak from a position of assumed hometown loyalty.

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Have I mentioned how great they are recently? Let me say so again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

mister the guanoman (if that is your real name), you, sir, are bringing on the heartbreak.

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: sure, if you pay no attention to the words ;-)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: Listening to music for the words vs watching porn for the dialog

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Whenever I listen to "Hysteria" I'm shocked at the sheer drop-off beyond the singles.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

mister the guanoman (if that is your real name), you, sir, are bringing on the heartbreak.

it is my birth name, yes. and although I was brain-baffled by an excess of red wine last night, which led to some overly vicuperative spouting off, I stand by my statement. horrible band. the kenny G of rock.

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 12 October 2006 06:57 (seventeen years ago) link

hysteria is pure ear candy

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

this was a great thread! cut n pasted emails from the angry samoans!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to the title track on repeat for weeks--I can't think of a more perfect song.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i actually made a little def leppard playlist the other day

1. photograph
2. animal
3. now
4. armageddon it
5. hysteria

all of those songs are catchy, melodic, and even get me nostalgic

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
can't stop listening to deluxe edition.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

How are the extra tracks on it?

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I had never heard any of the b-sides so I'm still getting into them. Of the live tracks, there's a cool Alice Cooper cover and there's a bit on Rock of Ages where Joe starts singing lyrics to all kinds of shit - Not Fade Away, My Generation, Radar Love, Come Together, Whole Lotta Love...
The remixes are weird - mostly dicking around with the vocals - but fun to listen to.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and "Release Me" is completely insane.

Stumpus Maximus is, in fact, the band's tour manager Malvin Mortimer, and "The Good Ol' Boys" are Def Leppard. It's not a regular version of the old Engelbert Humperdinck song. With every verse, Stumpus is singing higher, until the end when he does nothing but screaming. It was meant as a joke, and was released as the B-side of the "Rocket" single and other singles.

Malvin became somewhat of a celebrity in '88 when some DJ's in Greece began playing the b-side instead of the usual A-side.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Beautiful. I need to get this, keep forgetting it's out now! Maybe this weekend...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

funny... i just listened to this the other night (the original not the re-issue).
the only thing I could think of was how much they sounded like New Kids on the Block (esp. the background vox).

tk (tk), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

uh

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
can't stop listening to deluxe edition.

Yes. (Now that I finally have it too.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

And "Gods of War" still remains unnervingly prescient.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

It's still crap, peoples. LIFT YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SOMA-TROUGH YOU'VE BEEN CHAINED TO AND SMELL THE BURNING FLESH OF YOUR FORMER OPPRESSORS!! IT'S OKAY NOT TO ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG! HYSTERIA DOES NOT ROCK!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahahaah....in my ridiculous rush to reclaim my title as needlessly hostile hyperbole-spewer, I managed to completely fuck that up. It's okay not to admit?

I'm an idiot.

Whatever. Hysteria doesn't hold a candle to Pyromania. That is all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I still like High 'N' Dry best, though I would agree with Alex that Pyromania is a better album. There is something about the sound of High 'N' Dry - Mutt Lange hadn't quite nailed the glossy formula for the guitars, and it is much more reminiscent of the Highway To Hell production style than the boomy processing that overwhelms the songs on Hysteria. Plus it sounds like actual drums dammit! The horrible drums on Pyromania and Hysteria still grate on me, twenty years on.

So Hysteria: dud for production, classic for the actual songs, and doesn't vaguely measure up to the preceding two albums.

EZ Snappin (EZSnappin), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Alex in NYC OTM. I have never understood the appeal of this record. I was as much into heavy and lite metal as any teenaged boy in the late 1980's, but I even knew then how soapy Hysteria was. With all respect due to Dan Perry, who knows more about the intricacies of music and voice than I, but when someone says something like "This is one of the few albums from the hair-metal era that I like," that should tell you something about how tepid this rock record is.

And all these weird CoolEdited, Pro-Tooled, compressed rock records from Nickelback and P.O.D. that get released these days can all trace their family tree back to this record. God bless Rick Allen for having heart in the face of adversity, but a one-armed man does not belong on the drummer's stool for a rock record. I've got factory preset drumtracks on my cheap four-track at home that have more soul than Rick Allen's drumming.

And keep in mind that I LIKE Def Leppard.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

EMBRACE THE CYBORG.

The fact that, as is noted above, the design theme of the album appears to have been Tron just makes it all the cooler.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Shoulda been called Hysterical.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever. Hysteria doesn't hold a candle to Pyromania. That is all.

alex totes OTM....pyromania is a better pop record AND a better hard rock record than hysteria. better singles, mo' rockin' jointz.

high n' dry is hella underrated too.

i've never heard on thru the night, but i'm afraid it can't live up to that huge guitar haulin' big rig cover.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt, PP, Alex OTM.

Pyromania is the only good reason to love Def Leppard. Maybe High 'n' Dry. I can see the kitsch/horror appeal of Hysteria (and the appeal is VAST, don't get me wrong), but I'm perfectly happy to let other people enjoy those terrible laffs.

Plus the associations are bad. When people who annoy me sober get drunk, they seem to LOVE THE SHIT out of Hysteria. Bro slapping, titty-shaking purgatory. Makes it hard to join the hug circle.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

You people.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

you not?

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Me cyborg, as noted.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not saying hysteria is bad, but to me pyromania is the bomp.

rock of ages, photograph, foolin', too late for love, etc etc

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

haha the BOMB, but maybe "the bomp" is better actually.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it's kinda too bad they didn't save bringing on the heartache for pyromania though, that was the amazing powerballad that one was missing.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I maintain that (for me) the main prob with Hysteria is the utter lack of any actual honest-to-Angus Young RIFFS. If it indeed was, as rumoured, created entirely in the studio by samplers etc., I'd appreciate it more - "in theory" anyways, as an interesting experiment. (I've honestly never devoted any thought to how much different it would've sounded if Rick Allen had still had all his limbs. That's probably worth pondering.)

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

If it indeed was, as rumoured, created entirely in the studio by samplers etc., I'd appreciate it more - "in theory" anyways, as an interesting experiment.

Specifically addressing that, David Fricke's liner notes for the reissue indicate that nearly all the songs were not only written well in advance of the final recording but had been gone through live in studio at least a few times. (I have to say I actually think he did a great job on these liner notes in particular -- it's the best accounting of the album I've read yet.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

GOT THE REISSUE HOLY SHIT

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 February 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Considering that myself. But the original sounded pretty good (was a digital recording after all) and they should have reissued "Pyromania" at first.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 08:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I heard...or, rather, saw the video, for "Animal" recently, and it completely cemented my argument. Hysteria is poop (and no amount of re-mastering/re-tweaking will save it).

Alex in NYC, Friday, 1 February 2008 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"Animal" is nowhere near the best song on Hysteria, you madman.

HI DERE, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

It's my favorite, but "Gods of War" (which, holy christ, after the remix sounds like Front 242) and "Rocket" nip at its heels.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"Animal" is nowhere near the best song on Hysteria, you madman.

That's akin to saying that it's not the stinkiest turd in the septic tank. POOP IS POOP.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 1 February 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link


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