Def Leppard 'Hysteria': C/D?

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This was one of my favourite records as a very young chap. Haven't listened to it in years. You guys all hate it, right?

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

GOOD LORD NO.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, this is pretty indisputably classic

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

man for a sec i thought gil meche started this thread

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

You'll find some general rambling on the band here but I'm content to turn this into a '50 reasons why Hysteria is so goddamn great' thread, so:

1) That weird-ass a capella bit at the start of the album version of "Rocket" -- and the way it's chopped up, reused, referred to and more throughout the song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I LOVE HYSTERIA.
It was my age 15 album.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Good thing, Ned.
My brother is still not able to hear someone say 'good times' with adding 'drums!' afterward. Apparently a line from that album.
My first ever MTV experience was watching the video to 'Pour some Sugar on Me.' I was/am from Canada. I actually would like to buy a copy of that album; it's probably really cheap now.

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

This is one of the few albums from the hair-metal era that I like.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

2) The main guitar melody on "Dogs of War" -- pure glam descend/power of command/inexpressible this-is-IT focus.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess this is all insisputably the beat Def Lepard album?

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link

3) ONE LUMP OR TWO?????

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link

4) Tying into Dan's reference, the fact that it's actually an industrial-pop album most of the time. Turn the vocals gutteral and make all the guitars ugly synth noises (instead of pretty synth noises) and HOLY MOTHER OF GOD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link

5) laughing your ass off like fucking crazy the first time you see the british version of the 'pour some sugar on me' video

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

6) WHAT'S THAT SMELL???

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

3) The intro to the same song: flanged drums!

(x-post -> now #5. I'm talking about "Gods of War".)

(Isn't it "Guitar! Drums!"?)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

7) the supersheen call and response "AND I WANT - AND I NEED" at the end of "animal"

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess this is all insisputably the beat Def Lepard album?

I'd have to say so, you'll find disagreements of course. But I dunno...

8) Goddamn is the start of "Love Bites" weird and queasy. It's a power ballad but it isn't.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

perhaps I'm showing my age, but I much prefer PYROMANIA. They didn't get much better than "Photograph" as far as hooks go.

steeve mcqueen (steeve mcqueen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

10) the way between "pour some sugar on me" and the crue's "home sweet home" you have like five years at number one on dial mtv.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:23 (eighteen years ago) link

11) The momentous intro to "Women"

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Right, "Gods of War," I goofed up there, d'oh!

Number 7 OTMFM.

12) the buildup to the chorus of "Run Riot" is so fucking great -- the missing fake-rebellion-as-anthemic-noise link between Sweet's "Teenage Rampage" and the Prodigy's "Firestarter."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

LADY MS LUREX TO THREAD DAMMIT

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:25 (eighteen years ago) link

12) That they all gave themselves titles like "Wing Commander"

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:25 (eighteen years ago) link

13) the way "pour some sugar on me" was kept outta the number one spot by a power ballad (cheap trick's "the flame") so the lep went "oh, so it's like that huh? DEPLOY POWER BALLAD" and next thing you know "love bites" is the number one single.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:26 (eighteen years ago) link

14) Mutt Lange. I mean, that goes without saying.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link

15. Great liner notes.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link

16) ARMAGEDDON IT.. ARE YOU GETTING IT?

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link

17) "ARE YOU EXCITABLE...ARE YOU EXCITABLE...AREYOUEXCITABLEAREYOUEXCITAREYOUAREYAREARAAAAAA..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link

17) All the saccharine-dripping fruitcake call-and-response pre-chorus shit in "Hysteria": the "I gotta know tonight/It's been a lonely night/ . . ." stuff as well as the "I'm just another guy/You're just another girl/It's just another night" stuff, always punctuated by Elliot's post-Alvin "Ooooh"s.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually we're up to number 19 with that last one, next one needs to be 20!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Lep's "Rocket" vs Smashing Pumpkins' "Rocket".
I know this is a Def Leppard appreciation thread, but I've got to side with Billy & Co. It's close, though.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

they're closer than you think!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

20) Speaking of "Rocket," how great is the video midsong break to T. Rex? Now that's a goddamn homage worthy of the name.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

AH NOOOOOOO FLASHBACKS FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL


and i hated the drum sound.

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link

21) The first low vocodered "She's so dangerous" in "Don't Shoot Shotgun".

TS: Lep's "Rocket" vs Smashing Pumpkins' "Rocket"

DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

22) YAY THAT DRUM SOUND! Rick Allen loses an arm, Lange gets millions in digital drum technology to fool around with = echoing domination from the heights.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

22) oh god that weird ass 'rooowww, Rooooow, ROOOOOW' backward (?) part of the guitar solo, such awesomeness

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link

23) might be one of the most over-produced albums EVERRR

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:36 (eighteen years ago) link

"I'm just another guy/You're just another girl/It's just another night" stuff

Oh wait, this one is actually in "Love and Affection".

24) "Hysteria" and "L&A" blend into one giant smeared-out falsetto ballad epic.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

It's taken 20 years for me to discern any melodies at all in the oceanic whooshing and wind-whipping of this record. As a Def Leppard album I dud it, but as a triumph of production over band it's classic.

High N' Dry for this teenybopper.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link

25) Hysteria:Ian::Loveless:Dr C

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link

26) haha better drum sound than Loveless

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

"All the saccharine-dripping fruitcake call-and-response pre-chorus shit in "Hysteria": the "I gotta know tonight/It's been a lonely night..."

It's actually, "I gotta know tonight/If your alone tonight"...;)

I memorized the lyrics from my brother's Hit Parader when I was in junior high. It doesn't get much better than "Hysteria" for power ballad goodness.

kickitcricket, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"If you're alone tonight"

kickitcricket, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Mutt Lange is a genius as I only recently realised/appreciated properly

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Dud. I'm as big a Chuck Eddy (and Ned Raggett!) fan as you'll find, but I just can't imagine why Chuck felt it deserved an entire book, because 90% of it absolutely refused to imprint itself on my memory. (Any one of their previous three, particularly Pyromania, is more worthy of praise.) Simply inferior to all its obvious sources of influence, and probably the single most lifeless "heavy metal" artifact I've ever tried to listen to (and once owned). Goes in one ear, and...nothing. I just don't get it.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

27) *Weird guitar noises* "AN-I-MAL"

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

28) I need to go buy this album on my lunch break now.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link

28) "Skin on skin ... let the love begin!"

Conor (Conor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm as big a Chuck Eddy (and Ned Raggett!) fan

! Why I'm flattered, but I don't think I've quite deserved to be spoken of in the same breath. ;-)

30) To perhaps answer Myonga's point -- as I said it's an industrial-pop album in ways, but more to the point it's a pop album straight up. A huge over-the-top one of course, but that's precisely its appeal for me at least, it's a place where x ALWAYS equals x. Literally half the album became singles that charted, and while that doesn't rival all but two songs off Thriller going top ten, say, it's still something. So it CAN catch, but I think thinking of it as a heavy metal album, quotes or no quotes, actually isn't the best or only way to regard it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

My fave recent thing about this - Elliott's high pitched backing vocals complimenting the main last chorus of "Gods Of War"

Master of Treacle, Monday, 20 July 2015 00:12 (seven years ago) link

The outro of 'Gods Of War' sounds absolutely amazing on headphones.

seven months pass...

Collen's work on "Animal" is so great. Such great tone and melodic as fuck

calstars, Saturday, 12 March 2016 01:35 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/LtzLrQc.jpg

calstars, Saturday, 12 March 2016 01:43 (six years ago) link

"Richard John Cyril "Rick" Allen (born 1 November 1963) is an English drummer who has played for the hard rock band Def Leppard since 1978. He overcame THE AMPUTATION OF HIS LEFT ARM in 1985 and continued to play with the band"

calstars, Saturday, 12 March 2016 02:05 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

DO YOU TAKE SUGAR
ONE LUMP OR TWO

calstars, Sunday, 21 August 2016 00:24 (six years ago) link

:D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 August 2016 01:11 (six years ago) link

LUMPS? RE: Pete Puma; oh, three or four...

candy-ass record; loved High 'n' Dry when i was 13, less-so for Pyro when i was 14. Down-hill since. The only thing i liked about Def Lep was akin to the first time i was inside a true Brit automobile: Curious. I'd easy pay twelve bucks to see them in a bowling alley show, but i just know that, even at 12 bones, i'd still be disappointed for the absence of tracks from their early, "Range Rover-type" days....

Check it: just like Dick Dale trying to surf a dust wave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Neuoqmqt1HE

...and lest we forget the 2-handed rummer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHNBxd4LnDs

bodacious ignoramus, Saturday, 3 September 2016 08:17 (six years ago) link

want to like this album.. just sounds like bad xtian rock or something to me. i admire the hugeness of "pour some sugar on me" but it's no "i love rock and roll"

brimstead, Saturday, 3 September 2016 08:40 (six years ago) link

fascinated with how they recorded the drums LAST

brimstead, Saturday, 3 September 2016 08:40 (six years ago) link

I just assumed a lot of the drums were sequenced, programmed or overdubbed in whatever order. Same thing for ABC's (much earlier) Lexicon of Love, which was a drum machine selectively doubled/replaced by real drums. Dave Grohl in Queens of the Stone Age recorded the drums and cymbals separately.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2016 13:51 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

Really interesting posthumous interview with Mike Shipley about mixing this and Pyromania in the latest Tape Op: http://tapeop.com/interviews/118/mike-shipley/

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:16 (five years ago) link

"Mutt's whole thing was, ‘Kids these days don't want to hear honky little snare drums. They're all out watching Star Wars and having visual experiences, so let's make records like that. Rather than going the natural route, let's make something larger than life!'"

Nothing could be more accurate.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 March 2017 21:26 (five years ago) link

I was gonna say, he certainly achieved that!

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:28 (five years ago) link

"There ain't gonna be heroes/There ain't gonna be anything"

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 27 March 2017 23:38 (five years ago) link

Cool interview

calstars, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:16 (five years ago) link

yeah but imagine how much realer these songs would be on acoustic guitars, man

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:20 (five years ago) link

^ Read the above comment and thought I was in the Paul McCartney thread for a second.

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:46 (five years ago) link

You can hear huge handclaps going on in "Pour Some Sugar on Me." Those are actually 100 tracks of handclaps detuned and EQ'd. That ended up sounding like ambience in a way, and definitely had a unique sound.

I can't unhear the handclaps now!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:09 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

I feel strongly now that "Animal" is the best song on this album

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 September 2017 22:12 (five years ago) link

Probably right. Has this alb not had a poll?

Spottie, Monday, 4 September 2017 22:16 (five years ago) link

I couldn't find it! seems weird if it doesn't

bought the 30th anniversary remaster CD when I was on a Target run on a whim

God's of War is the one that really floors me now more than then

Love & Affection is nice too seems like it should have been a hit but I guess there's a limit to how many hits you can have

Excitable is the only one that seems corny imo, were there any good period b sides they could have swapped it for?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 September 2017 22:32 (five years ago) link

Gods of War is a real jam. Damn I do love me an on-the-nose Reagan/Poppy Bush sample, gets me right in the nostalgia feels.

I feel like I remember a poll maybe titled "POLL some sugar on me"?

nomar, Monday, 4 September 2017 22:39 (five years ago) link

these songs were incredibly fun live last year too, even without the insane layered vocals that you get on the album

Neanderthal, Monday, 4 September 2017 22:44 (five years ago) link

xp 3rd Grade me needed "Excitable."

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 03:22 (five years ago) link

although outside of nostalgic context I guess I can hear it possessing some annoying qualities (foreshadowing "Let's Get Rocked")

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 03:25 (five years ago) link

AAAH AAAH!
OOOH OOOH!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 06:11 (five years ago) link

Easily my favourite band to come out of Sheffield, America.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 06:13 (five years ago) link

if "excitable" was just the intro stretch out to 5 minutes that would be a good song

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 07:15 (five years ago) link

The Killers nicked the guitar part from 'Women' and used it as the synth part in 'Smile Like You Mean It'

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:01 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

Now available on all your favourite streaming services

http://teamrock.com/news/2018-01-19/def-leppard-now-on-streaming-services-announce-hysteria-uk-and-ireland-tour

groovypanda, Friday, 19 January 2018 10:48 (four years ago) link

!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 19 January 2018 12:58 (four years ago) link

Great that finally worked out for them. (The band obv, screw the label.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 January 2018 14:59 (four years ago) link

yessssssssss

Spottie, Friday, 19 January 2018 16:39 (four years ago) link

I'm a HUGE Def Leppard fan ("Hysteria" is my favorite album), and I'm so glad their catalog is finally available digitally.

With that said, I've got to say the recent Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction news for Bon Jovi kinda bugged me, so I put together a detailed "face-off" comparing the 2 bands to show which one is REALLY more "worthy" of the honor.

I think you'll find it interesting...Feel free to share it!

"Bon Jovi, but not Def Leppard? For Shame Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!"
https://www.nostalgiclogic.com/bon-jovi-not-def-leppard-shame/

Nostalgic Logic, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:17 (four years ago) link

posting the same post on two different threads is about as necessary as a drummer having two arms

del griffith, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:12 (four years ago) link

MEAN

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:27 (four years ago) link

it can be frustrating dealing with dismissive co-workers, those who are very comfortable routinely doing the same inefficient thing over and over. These folks have simply “accepted” the way things are done, and the most effort you’ll get from them is when they challenge your new ideas.

i am a skinematographer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:31 (four years ago) link

Promo photo for the forthcoming tour is textbook 'men who look like old lesbians' tbh.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, 21 January 2018 13:09 (four years ago) link

Love bites, Animal & Hysteria are all still 10/10

i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 21 January 2018 15:53 (four years ago) link

Here in Greenville, as the second year of Trump dawned, Stormy Daniels spread out a taupe fleece blanket on stage, dropped to her knees, arched her back and began to squirt a bottle of lotion onto her chest to the sound of “Animal” by Def Leppard, as the president’s face flashed on video screens behind her.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:12 (four years ago) link

Love bites, Animal & Hysteria are all still 10/10

And Armageddon It too surely

groovypanda, Monday, 22 January 2018 09:13 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Euphoria hitting the spot this morning. Not as familiar with this album but it seems more of a successor to Hysteria than Adrenalize was

chonky floof (groovypanda), Friday, 7 August 2020 10:41 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

The way the first verse of Sugar is just these massive Tackhead Test Dept jackhammer beats and nothing else for 11 seconds

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 24 November 2022 17:58 (one week ago) link

I remember reading that the snare sound is this pile of sampled hand claps and just about everything but acoustic snare.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:00 (one week ago) link

Probably why it sounds like tissue paper

a blunt toothcomb (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:20 (one week ago) link

The way the first verse of Sugar is just these massive Tackhead Test Dept jackhammer beats and nothing else for 11 seconds


Yes. This album is incredible, I really fell for it hard the last couple of years.

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:52 (one week ago) link

I think if this album had failed commercially it would have inspired a hipster hair metal reevaluation in the 2010s

The album that came after Pyromania. Nothing else.

Part of this is personal; Pyromania was the soundtrack to my 8th Grade, the album that burned the brightest as I tried to learn about hard rock music without the benefit of a Kiss-loving older brother or sister, the biggest gateway for all that came afterwards.

But the thing about gateways is that you move onto other things from them, and by the time Hysteria came out I was past radio fare (actually was probably dealing with that familiar stupid adolescent rebellion towards what I once loved) and was into underground stuff and the burgeoning thrash scene was as "mainstream" as I was willing to go with. Hysteria was a blip on my radar.

But part of this is more objective, since Pyromania shits over Hysteria no matter what criteria one wishes to employ.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:20 (one week ago) link

"number of songs with puns in the lyrics"?

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:23 (one week ago) link


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