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very polar reaction to these guys, as to be expected. lots of gossip abounds but at any rate what's your take? kinda of a chameleonic career: early shoegaze roots gave forth to ambient-prog then sraight-up indie rock (only lasting for an EP) to british invasion and then finally bent psych-folk.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Search:
Better Can't Make Your Life Better (either LP version)
A Brief History Of Amazing Letdowns EP

More later when I'm more awake... sorry.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link

my friend is always lameting why the shins are so big and the lilys aren't. I don't have a good answer for that. search eccsame the photon band, though. Destroy the 3 Way.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, "the 3 way" was kinda where he hit the wall a bit. i haven't heard "precollection" or the new self-titled one though so he may have picked up the ball again. my favourite is still the mbv-flavoured debut and "better can't make your life better", but all the other records have their excellent moment. "february fourteenth" literally changed my musical landscape permanently.

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

moments

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

ECCSAME = BLISS

That is all.

Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"Elevator Is Temporary" from "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is one of my all-time faves.
Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

mzui, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

What was their proto-Neu album like? The Darla Bliss Out series?

(that's probably the wrong word, but you know what I mean, anyway)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link

it was probably the best bliss out release, which is to say it was still duller than dishwater (actually it was ok but nothing special)

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

The album came out in the US with the original mix, but after Nanny In Manhattan appeared in a UK commercial there was enough of a buzz that Kurt was able to remix and beef up some of the tracks. The two versions also have slightly different tracklistings.

Precollection sounds utterly forgettable (and almost like mixing was never finished) on first listen, but it's a real (albeit slow) grower.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

This band is one of my top 5 favorites, but it is real work being such a fan. Everything through Better Can't Make Your Life Better is untouchable, especially Brief History of Amazing Letdowns. I still haven't been able to get my bearings on Precollections after having it for about a year, but I am sure in time I'll get around to liking it. Why oh why can't Kurt just go back and give us something amazing again like Eccsame? Woe is (nerdy) me.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I adore--absolutely adore--the first half of Lilys' career. From that period, absolutely search:

"February 14th"
"Claire Hates Me"
"Periscope"
"Touch the Water"
"Elizabeth Color Wheel"
"Threw a Day"
all of Brief History of Amazing Letdowns
all of Eccsame the Photon Band

"Ginger" and "Claire Hates Me" are two of my favorite songs ever. Several others of theirs aren't far behind.

But, much to my guilt, I simply don't much like Lilys' second half. The Kinks thing just really doesn't do it for me--I liked them so much better even when they were just ripping off MBV. So I guess destroy everything post-Eccsame, except:

"You Win"
"A Nanny in Manhattan"
"The Perception Room"
"Precollection"

maybe one or two others. This band breaks my heart.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link

ARgahargafdadazzzzzz...

Sorta my take on them, really. Yeah, the MBV knockoff is bemusing and all but otherwise, no. I forget the exact nature of the withering comment I delivered after their yawnsome set at Terrastock V, but whatever it was was sufficiently cold and dismissive enough (and involved a negative comparison to Richard Ashcroft's solo work...which I hate) to surprise even Elvis Telecom. Kurt Wossname is a fine and excellent fan of many good records and sounds who should never be allowed near a recording studio.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Nanny in Manhattan, esp. running out your front door in the morning, late for work.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Yay Dr. Bill -- "Clair hates me" is my favorite song.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Awesome. For some reason, no one ever talks about that song when discussing Lilys. It's the one that really made me love the band.

If only it ended better!

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anybody have the "Send In The Subs" bootleg of unreleased material? I have a few MP3s off of file-sharing but never the complete album. What I've heard is pretty great.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to have it...if I'm remembering correctly some of it came out (as finished songs) on the Aspera Ad Astra split. It was mostly instrumental, right? (I love the lilys, and I remember very little of Subs, which makes me think I didn't like it.) A gazillion live tracks here:

http://www.diamond.ssl.physics.ncsu.edu/lilys/

dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

haven't listened to 'eccsame' in years, but i used to quite love it. (in fact, i haven't SEEN it for year, i wonder if i haven't lost it.)(the album, that is.)

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I've got a copy of Send in the Subs. It was mostly outtakes from Eccsame, alternate mixes and instrumental takes. Interesting to listen to, fer sure. It might have the stuff from the Tigerstyle split; I can't remember. I'll have to go home and look at it.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i think a lot of the lilys success [or lack thereof] is due to heasley being unable to keep his band situations on an even keel.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a new record called 'the lilys'?
i think precollection is great, adds some xtc to his kinks worship. the shoegaze stuff was a bore. i remember when i lived in DC an ex-lily was working the cash register at vinyl ink and got very upset at me for buying in the presence of nothing, told me it was crap, he was right.

they are a thousand times better than the shins. but pas/cal is making the songs i wish the lilys would make now.

the manual blissout is better than the lilys blissout.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

new on rainbow quartz: lilys "s/t"

http://www.rainbowquartz.com/albtnails/rqtz102.jpg

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i stopped paying attention to blissouts after the lilys one

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Is the actual cover that Edward Gorey drawing? That I'll grant as spiff.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link

this is a weird release, huh

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I hit the link and can't tell if this is some sort of re-treaded Precollections with 3 or 5 new songs (depending on which part of the web site you read). Of course the label hype makes it sound super. I guess we'll see. Doesn't look like it is generally available yet. Maybe someone here has their mitts on it?

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh and about the the second version of Better Can't Make Your Life Better... mostly it's a handful of quick edits and a whole lot of string and brass arrangements added. Some vocals were brought up. "Elevator Is Temporary" is made even more dramatic which is the real winner... also "Returns Every Morning" has this epic crescendo before the coda.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Right on Gygax & dlp, thanks very much for the info..!

mzui, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I finally got to hear the "The Lilys" album. The three new songs are very good. Not *incredible*. Not average. Kurt seems to be looking for a way to combine several of his band's sounds: there's still the 60's thing (with his voice sometimes sounding like Robert Pollard, which doesn't thrill me so much) but he's starting to fill in all the space in the mix as in the older days. It's actually a pretty nice sound, though I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola. I still think he's got the best chord changes around, at least since Scott Miller stopped recording.

I hadn't heard the original album in a while, so I can't tell the difference w/the remixes...whatever the changes are, they don't smack you in the face. The sequencing is better than on Precollection.

dlp9001, Saturday, 31 July 2004 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola

Glad I stuck with Lenola, then!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
If you've wandered over to the Returns Every Morning fan site the discography mentions a lot of recordings between 1990 and 1992, as well as some video of the band from that period. Any one ever come across the audio or video? Any helpful hints for tracking it down? I'm within spitting distance of owning all of their commercially available material, and I've got Send In the Subs and the other fairly available boots. But this early stuff, both audio and video, doesn't seem to want to reveal itself to me.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i remember NME giving better... a 9 on its initial release but then they quickly soured on them after the nanny in manhattan commercial and decided to give the reissue a 2. the reissue has the nice b-side from nanny in manhattan on it, i forget what it was called. i remember having the sub-pop single and i taped it and for some reason it played slightly too fast and after i fixed it i realized it sounded better sped up slightly but i had already taped over the songs. he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing but i imagine his ego is too out of control for that.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the Nanny b-side is "More Than That is Deserved."

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

weird, i woke up this morning and put on history of amazing letdowns just to hear "ginger".

if you've got a moment, folks should check out this philly band called THE A-SIDES [http://www.a-sides.net/]. they started off as this rudimentary garage / 60's throwback on their first single but their recently released full length is as close as you're going to get to the second coming of classic lilys. and the thing is, when i listen to the record, there's no blatant ripping off of heasley's style -- its just got a similar vibe to the classic records. best local release of the year, hands down.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Purchased and eagerly awaited. Thanks for the tip.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link

he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing

he certainly does. actually a lot of people do. he's the twee nigel godrich.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

it's true. man he'd be perfect for the radio dept. too.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...
hay guyz i dont know anything about these dudes but i think this record is amazing
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd200/d235/d23508ecxm8.jpg

and what, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

no foolin'

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

this is still true (except i like the shins less now)

electricsound, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

I have every Lilys record on my iPod at ALL TIMES.

Maybe I am insane.

I think "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is my favorite.

I still wear cords...

Saxby D. Elder, Monday, 14 May 2007 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

the last lilys record was not good.

keythkeyth, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"ginger" from A Brief History of Amazing Letdowns" is catchy as hell. I can see Ned's complaints about their more-MBV sounding stuff. They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?). As dlp9001 sorta points out above, trying to do too much in some songs, not enough in others. When their songs are pop-y, they're quite fun.

john. a resident of chicago., Saturday, 3 May 2008 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

i would listen to 'in the presence of nothing' before either mbv album any day of the week

electricsound, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

Eccsame The Photon Band is an excellent album.
That split with a Aspera Ad Astra is smart too.

Moving away from the MBVisms to the Kinks - I thought that 'Better Can't Make....' was wholly listenable for want of a less boring description.

I love me some Lilys. Talented geezer.

Fer Ark, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?).

I honestly can't remember. We're talking six years ago now!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Def. The Three Way, which is the most Zombie-like. "Socs Hip." I don't have that record anymore and can't find it anywhere.

Kate, Sunday, 4 May 2008 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I still listen to Zero Population Growth on occasion, but now I honestly can't remember much of their other albums.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Some of the through-composition on The 3-Way is ridiculously impressive; I think it let itself get written off as a pastiche record, but it had that great pastiche-record quality where having heavy inspiration lets you make something a million times more complex and ornate and ambitious than a lot of the stuff you're drawing on.

There's a song on Eccsame called "The Hermit Crab," which I listened to once on a listening station in 1996 or so. I didn't buy the record, but the song stuck with me enough that I spent years afterward trying to re-write it myself, a bit, from bad memory: I'd try and write a song something like this great song whose details I couldn't begin to remember. I dug the song up, recently, and it was a bit weird to listen to: every other hook, riff, or melody has some distorted misremembered cousin in songs I've written since then. (Even one three-word snippet of lyrics!) I suppose a decent amount of the original wound up embedded deep in my head, and kept coming out without my realizing it.

nabisco, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

Thank you both! I would love a higher quality rip than 128kbps, the search goes on! Maybe I should try and ask Kurt :)

MaresNest, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 17:25 (eight months ago) link

He's pretty active on twitter...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 22:49 (eight months ago) link

Thank you both! I would love a higher quality rip than 128kbps, the search goes on! Maybe I should try and ask Kurt :)

320kbps rip on slsk right now.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:16 (eight months ago) link

YSI?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 February 2019 04:04 (eight months ago) link

I did a search on slsk yesterday and have just done one now with no results, whoever they are we don't keep the same hours I guess :)

MaresNest, Thursday, 28 February 2019 10:50 (eight months ago) link

there's a user now ("f**d*ngb*ck") who has most of it in 192

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:18 (eight months ago) link

Not seeing it... :-( Hopefully MaresNest can find it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:37 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/ubQgRrF.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 October 2019 06:38 (three weeks ago) link

Grunge album coming soon?

I did eventually track down Send in The Subs in 192kbps, still hoping for a copy of it, I also grabbed a great VPRO session from that same person.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 19 October 2019 20:12 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuqlLpXJyag

verse melody was knicked for "leo ryan"? and maybe another track?

trying to figure out how involved KH is with Lodge 49... seems kinda deep but maybe some contractual shit is keeping him incognito.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 October 2019 20:29 (two weeks ago) link

xpost

noooooooooooo...

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:54 (two weeks ago) link

the only time I saw them live was in '99? when Delta 72, Olivia Tremor Control and Elf Power were also on the bill (macrock).

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:57 (two weeks ago) link

That was a good era... maybe the peak.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 October 2019 21:03 (two weeks ago) link

I dunno, that recently unbraided hair seems peak.

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 21:05 (two weeks ago) link

I appreciate his two sizes of tamis (tamises?) on the wall.

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 21:09 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l84s3v4wzsy5eb5/Lilys%20-%20Miscellaneous%20Rarities%20HQ%20MP3.zip?dl=0

Lilys - Send In The Subs vol. 2

Right Thing to Do (prev. unrel.)
Dreams Never End (New Order cover)
Coby (backing track, no vocal)
Excelsior Plainside (prev. unrel.)
Any Several Sundays (early unrel. version)
Hark, The Open Energy Channel Is Icy Water, Water Everywhere (B-side)
Baby's a Dealer (radio session version)
Touch the Water (prev. unrel. 45 version)
Any Several Sundays (Station Tapes version)
Baby's a Dealer (B-side version)
Welfare Murder Plot (B-side)
Overlit Canyon - Live 2016-07-03 - performed by Kurt Heasley (Lilys frontman) in celebration of the life of Thomas Fekete

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

(Mares, can you reup vol 1 pls?)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:33 (two weeks ago) link

Holy crap gotta get on the computer and download that!

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 01:07 (two weeks ago) link

XP - Thanks so much Albert R!

Here is a link to Vol.1, I threw the Dutch VPRO Radio Session in also.

VPRO Session, 08/11/96

Touch The Water
Who Is Moving
Paz En El Hogar
A Nanny In Manhattan (take one)
A Nanny In Manhattan (take two)
A Nanny In Manhattan (take three)
Better Can't Make Your Life Better
Ginger
Shovel Into Spade Kit
Cambridge California (take one)
Cambridge California (take two)
Elevator Is Temporary
Baby's A Dealer

https://fromsmash.com/fZcmEnYnYk-c0

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:34 (two weeks ago) link

<3

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 14:44 (two weeks ago) link

Hey Albert looks like

Hark, The Open Energy Channel Is Icy Water, Water Everywhere (B-side)

wasn't in the link

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

Damn... I'll see if I can rescrape it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:30 (two weeks ago) link

That track and the others from the Services For The Soon To Be Departed EP are so damn great.

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:53 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I verified run-times it's the same track as the lead track on Services. Which I have... somewhere lol

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:47 (two weeks ago) link

iirc they just bunged the whole EP, or most of it, on the CD Single for Nanny (in the UK at least)

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:58 (two weeks ago) link

Well, I was wrong, it was just the first three tracks

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:59 (two weeks ago) link

Really want the mystery tracks in this performance identified (don't have the time to comb through again at the moment to identify any timestamps):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGBX75Z3Ubo

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:03 (two weeks ago) link

In The Presence Of Nothing promo photos, DC 1992

https://i.imgur.com/qCoGZhL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MsOXC0k.jpg

Mike Hammel (The Ropers), Archie Moore (Velocity Girl), KH

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:16 (two weeks ago) link

Overlit Canyon - Live 2016-07-03

It's funny to hear him sing the songs of this era with that weird british/stoner surfer accent he sort of fell into since then.

Radiotricity 2016: "Oiyce Cahps Male-ting!"

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:28 (two weeks ago) link

Thanks again for the uploads, these early tracks are making me really nostaglic for Eccsame era stuff: "The Turtle Which..." etc.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:50 (one week ago) link

Man, Eccsame is such an amazing record, it's just so low key that it's almost designed to be passed over, but if you spend a bit of time with it, it'll bury itself deep into you.

Maresn3st, Friday, 8 November 2019 08:32 (one week ago) link

Maybe I've been losing my shit over no one, for some time.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 10 November 2019 06:44 (five days ago) link

It's weird how markedly different those first...idk five? albums are, like five different bands.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 10 November 2019 11:33 (five days ago) link

YES!

good citizens will receive https://t.co/kkNIKMCyLi

— LILYS THE LILYS (@theLILYS) November 11, 2019

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:29 (four days ago) link

Maresnest can you please re-up the VPRO link? Looks like I forgot to click...

Also wondering if Albert was ever able to track down the missing file for Hark, The Open Energy Channel Is Icy Water, Water Everywhere (B-side)?

Evan, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:53 (three days ago) link

It is not a rarity per se, it's just the first track of Services For The Soon To Be Departed tacked on as a b-side to an import single.

That said, I do "own" it. Where it is, or my impending access to such is a big question.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:34 (three days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J68mSrE9CmE

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:35 (three days ago) link

No worries Evan, do you have the 'Services...' EP? I can include that also.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:39 (three days ago) link

It is amazing actually, every bit as great as BCMYLB

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:40 (three days ago) link

When I say "the first track" it's like the first 3 tracks of the EP which are seamless. It's a little more free/frenetic than BCMYLB imho.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:42 (three days ago) link

Thanks! And I do have Services so no worries there! I figured the "b-side" version would have been a little different.

Evan, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:46 (three days ago) link

It was tacked on as a b-side to the "Nanny" 1998 re-release as that EP didn't get UK distro.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:49 (three days ago) link

Here 'tis - https://fromsmash.com/yM4a4N.Yyg-c0

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:37 (three days ago) link

thanks you're the best!

Evan, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:44 (three days ago) link

wait that is not the Services EP

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:50 (three days ago) link

guess I should've read up a few posts lol, n/m

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:53 (three days ago) link

Lol, I can upload that too if you like?

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:14 (three days ago) link

ooh yes plz

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:17 (three days ago) link

Here y'go - https://fromsmash.com/NXGJsUgsK5-c0

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:23 (three days ago) link

thx yr the best

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:24 (three days ago) link


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