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very polar reaction to these guys, as to be expected. lots of gossip abounds but at any rate what's your take? kinda of a chameleonic career: early shoegaze roots gave forth to ambient-prog then sraight-up indie rock (only lasting for an EP) to british invasion and then finally bent psych-folk.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Search:
Better Can't Make Your Life Better (either LP version)
A Brief History Of Amazing Letdowns EP

More later when I'm more awake... sorry.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

my friend is always lameting why the shins are so big and the lilys aren't. I don't have a good answer for that. search eccsame the photon band, though. Destroy the 3 Way.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, "the 3 way" was kinda where he hit the wall a bit. i haven't heard "precollection" or the new self-titled one though so he may have picked up the ball again. my favourite is still the mbv-flavoured debut and "better can't make your life better", but all the other records have their excellent moment. "february fourteenth" literally changed my musical landscape permanently.

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

moments

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link

ECCSAME = BLISS

That is all.

Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link

"Elevator Is Temporary" from "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is one of my all-time faves.
Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

mzui, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

What was their proto-Neu album like? The Darla Bliss Out series?

(that's probably the wrong word, but you know what I mean, anyway)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

it was probably the best bliss out release, which is to say it was still duller than dishwater (actually it was ok but nothing special)

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

The album came out in the US with the original mix, but after Nanny In Manhattan appeared in a UK commercial there was enough of a buzz that Kurt was able to remix and beef up some of the tracks. The two versions also have slightly different tracklistings.

Precollection sounds utterly forgettable (and almost like mixing was never finished) on first listen, but it's a real (albeit slow) grower.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

This band is one of my top 5 favorites, but it is real work being such a fan. Everything through Better Can't Make Your Life Better is untouchable, especially Brief History of Amazing Letdowns. I still haven't been able to get my bearings on Precollections after having it for about a year, but I am sure in time I'll get around to liking it. Why oh why can't Kurt just go back and give us something amazing again like Eccsame? Woe is (nerdy) me.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I adore--absolutely adore--the first half of Lilys' career. From that period, absolutely search:

"February 14th"
"Claire Hates Me"
"Periscope"
"Touch the Water"
"Elizabeth Color Wheel"
"Threw a Day"
all of Brief History of Amazing Letdowns
all of Eccsame the Photon Band

"Ginger" and "Claire Hates Me" are two of my favorite songs ever. Several others of theirs aren't far behind.

But, much to my guilt, I simply don't much like Lilys' second half. The Kinks thing just really doesn't do it for me--I liked them so much better even when they were just ripping off MBV. So I guess destroy everything post-Eccsame, except:

"You Win"
"A Nanny in Manhattan"
"The Perception Room"
"Precollection"

maybe one or two others. This band breaks my heart.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

ARgahargafdadazzzzzz...

Sorta my take on them, really. Yeah, the MBV knockoff is bemusing and all but otherwise, no. I forget the exact nature of the withering comment I delivered after their yawnsome set at Terrastock V, but whatever it was was sufficiently cold and dismissive enough (and involved a negative comparison to Richard Ashcroft's solo work...which I hate) to surprise even Elvis Telecom. Kurt Wossname is a fine and excellent fan of many good records and sounds who should never be allowed near a recording studio.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Nanny in Manhattan, esp. running out your front door in the morning, late for work.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay Dr. Bill -- "Clair hates me" is my favorite song.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Awesome. For some reason, no one ever talks about that song when discussing Lilys. It's the one that really made me love the band.

If only it ended better!

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anybody have the "Send In The Subs" bootleg of unreleased material? I have a few MP3s off of file-sharing but never the complete album. What I've heard is pretty great.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to have it...if I'm remembering correctly some of it came out (as finished songs) on the Aspera Ad Astra split. It was mostly instrumental, right? (I love the lilys, and I remember very little of Subs, which makes me think I didn't like it.) A gazillion live tracks here:

http://www.diamond.ssl.physics.ncsu.edu/lilys/

dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

haven't listened to 'eccsame' in years, but i used to quite love it. (in fact, i haven't SEEN it for year, i wonder if i haven't lost it.)(the album, that is.)

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got a copy of Send in the Subs. It was mostly outtakes from Eccsame, alternate mixes and instrumental takes. Interesting to listen to, fer sure. It might have the stuff from the Tigerstyle split; I can't remember. I'll have to go home and look at it.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i think a lot of the lilys success [or lack thereof] is due to heasley being unable to keep his band situations on an even keel.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

there is a new record called 'the lilys'?
i think precollection is great, adds some xtc to his kinks worship. the shoegaze stuff was a bore. i remember when i lived in DC an ex-lily was working the cash register at vinyl ink and got very upset at me for buying in the presence of nothing, told me it was crap, he was right.

they are a thousand times better than the shins. but pas/cal is making the songs i wish the lilys would make now.

the manual blissout is better than the lilys blissout.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link

new on rainbow quartz: lilys "s/t"

http://www.rainbowquartz.com/albtnails/rqtz102.jpg

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

i stopped paying attention to blissouts after the lilys one

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Is the actual cover that Edward Gorey drawing? That I'll grant as spiff.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

this is a weird release, huh

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I hit the link and can't tell if this is some sort of re-treaded Precollections with 3 or 5 new songs (depending on which part of the web site you read). Of course the label hype makes it sound super. I guess we'll see. Doesn't look like it is generally available yet. Maybe someone here has their mitts on it?

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh and about the the second version of Better Can't Make Your Life Better... mostly it's a handful of quick edits and a whole lot of string and brass arrangements added. Some vocals were brought up. "Elevator Is Temporary" is made even more dramatic which is the real winner... also "Returns Every Morning" has this epic crescendo before the coda.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Right on Gygax & dlp, thanks very much for the info..!

mzui, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I finally got to hear the "The Lilys" album. The three new songs are very good. Not *incredible*. Not average. Kurt seems to be looking for a way to combine several of his band's sounds: there's still the 60's thing (with his voice sometimes sounding like Robert Pollard, which doesn't thrill me so much) but he's starting to fill in all the space in the mix as in the older days. It's actually a pretty nice sound, though I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola. I still think he's got the best chord changes around, at least since Scott Miller stopped recording.

I hadn't heard the original album in a while, so I can't tell the difference w/the remixes...whatever the changes are, they don't smack you in the face. The sequencing is better than on Precollection.

dlp9001, Saturday, 31 July 2004 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola

Glad I stuck with Lenola, then!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
If you've wandered over to the Returns Every Morning fan site the discography mentions a lot of recordings between 1990 and 1992, as well as some video of the band from that period. Any one ever come across the audio or video? Any helpful hints for tracking it down? I'm within spitting distance of owning all of their commercially available material, and I've got Send In the Subs and the other fairly available boots. But this early stuff, both audio and video, doesn't seem to want to reveal itself to me.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i remember NME giving better... a 9 on its initial release but then they quickly soured on them after the nanny in manhattan commercial and decided to give the reissue a 2. the reissue has the nice b-side from nanny in manhattan on it, i forget what it was called. i remember having the sub-pop single and i taped it and for some reason it played slightly too fast and after i fixed it i realized it sounded better sped up slightly but i had already taped over the songs. he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing but i imagine his ego is too out of control for that.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the Nanny b-side is "More Than That is Deserved."

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

weird, i woke up this morning and put on history of amazing letdowns just to hear "ginger".

if you've got a moment, folks should check out this philly band called THE A-SIDES [http://www.a-sides.net/]. they started off as this rudimentary garage / 60's throwback on their first single but their recently released full length is as close as you're going to get to the second coming of classic lilys. and the thing is, when i listen to the record, there's no blatant ripping off of heasley's style -- its just got a similar vibe to the classic records. best local release of the year, hands down.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Purchased and eagerly awaited. Thanks for the tip.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing

he certainly does. actually a lot of people do. he's the twee nigel godrich.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

it's true. man he'd be perfect for the radio dept. too.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
hay guyz i dont know anything about these dudes but i think this record is amazing
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd200/d235/d23508ecxm8.jpg

and what, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link

no foolin'

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

this is still true (except i like the shins less now)

electricsound, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I have every Lilys record on my iPod at ALL TIMES.

Maybe I am insane.

I think "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is my favorite.

I still wear cords...

Saxby D. Elder, Monday, 14 May 2007 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

the last lilys record was not good.

keythkeyth, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"ginger" from A Brief History of Amazing Letdowns" is catchy as hell. I can see Ned's complaints about their more-MBV sounding stuff. They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?). As dlp9001 sorta points out above, trying to do too much in some songs, not enough in others. When their songs are pop-y, they're quite fun.

john. a resident of chicago., Saturday, 3 May 2008 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i would listen to 'in the presence of nothing' before either mbv album any day of the week

electricsound, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Eccsame The Photon Band is an excellent album.
That split with a Aspera Ad Astra is smart too.

Moving away from the MBVisms to the Kinks - I thought that 'Better Can't Make....' was wholly listenable for want of a less boring description.

I love me some Lilys. Talented geezer.

Fer Ark, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?).

I honestly can't remember. We're talking six years ago now!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Def. The Three Way, which is the most Zombie-like. "Socs Hip." I don't have that record anymore and can't find it anywhere.

Kate, Sunday, 4 May 2008 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I still listen to Zero Population Growth on occasion, but now I honestly can't remember much of their other albums.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of the through-composition on The 3-Way is ridiculously impressive; I think it let itself get written off as a pastiche record, but it had that great pastiche-record quality where having heavy inspiration lets you make something a million times more complex and ornate and ambitious than a lot of the stuff you're drawing on.

There's a song on Eccsame called "The Hermit Crab," which I listened to once on a listening station in 1996 or so. I didn't buy the record, but the song stuck with me enough that I spent years afterward trying to re-write it myself, a bit, from bad memory: I'd try and write a song something like this great song whose details I couldn't begin to remember. I dug the song up, recently, and it was a bit weird to listen to: every other hook, riff, or melody has some distorted misremembered cousin in songs I've written since then. (Even one three-word snippet of lyrics!) I suppose a decent amount of the original wound up embedded deep in my head, and kept coming out without my realizing it.

nabisco, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

[This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.]

I love Kurt!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 29 January 2021 16:54 (one year ago) link

2021 is the year of the homepage!

http://l-i-l-y-s.com/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 29 January 2021 17:37 (one year ago) link

A Brief History Of Amazing Letdowns is so good! Sounds even better now than it did back then.

tylerw, Friday, 29 January 2021 21:05 (one year ago) link

Evil Knievel no longer canon!!!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:35 (one year ago) link

See upthread a little ;)

I might have been the first one to order the vinyl when it went up honestly! Been excited about this.

Evan, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:46 (one year ago) link

lol, sorry, shows where's my mind's at.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:33 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

"I was listening to Eccsame the Photon Band again (I've never stopped) this time really loud. It really hasn't aged at all. It could have come out yesterday. I was thinking of giving it a C or D thread just to see if anyone also felt that it was really special or at least very unique. Thoughts?"

Hi evan,I remember commenting under an YouTube video of Radiotricity,saying that turn up the volume to the highest you can take and be overwhelmed with it...I don't remember exactly how I said it and the video is now gone...I now feel that my phrases are really cliche and sentimental..

nancy stein, Monday, 8 March 2021 11:53 (one year ago) link

https://www.tablyricfm.com/artist-Lilys-tab-Lyric-fm

Does anybody have the resources for these unreleased songs:give a little distance,lire,imagination... etc?This site names many,but the songs are all unavailable.(or is it just my phone's problem?)
I see upthread but I don't have access to any of them😔

nancy stein, Monday, 8 March 2021 12:05 (one year ago) link

Hey Nancy,

You might like this, 'Send In The Subs' an unofficial CDR of unreleased tunes, much-discussed upthread.

https://www.discogs.com/Lilys-Send-In-The-Subs/release/12907117

D/L - https://www.fromsmash.com/bzqYTVCAan-bt

Maresn3st, Monday, 8 March 2021 12:21 (one year ago) link

Thanks,Maresn3st,but send in the sub doesn't have the songs I talked about. I also wanna get the information on some untitled tracks from the only 1994 live show on YouTube,like what their names are.. :)

nancy stein, Monday, 8 March 2021 14:50 (one year ago) link

Hi Nancy! I forgot I made that post. I still feel that way! In a perfect world it would be looked back on as something way ahead of its time. It has since been reissued and despite my 2014 wishes it did not generate the mass revaluation I was hoping for. Maybe if it got a "Best New Reissue" treatment on Pitchfork or something. The existing cult remains. Oh, I did somehow get some friends to indulge it. That was a win, as our tastes are mostly growing further apart.

Thanks for bringing it up. Love talking about one of my favorite records of all time.

Evan, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:20 (one year ago) link

Eccsame might be the most underrated Lilys record, at times it's my favorite as well.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 8 March 2021 18:36 (one year ago) link

It's the only one that's really hard to describe and sounds the least of its time. All the others can be mostly boiled down to a short description because they are straightforward exercises regardless of how you rate them. The shoegaze one, the indie rock circa 94 one, Eccsame The Photon Band, the Kinks-y rebirth, the REALLY Kinks-y one, the indie rock circa 03 one, the poor man's Spoon one. Guess you could say "the space rock one" or something but it'll be the hardest to prepare a new listener for with that kind of simple label.

Evan, Monday, 8 March 2021 18:54 (one year ago) link

Funny, I've been listening to Eccsame (again) and Better Can't Make Your Life Better (for the first time) recently, both incredible. Can hardly believe the same person made them both, so close together. I was definitely having those "ahead of their time" feelings, too. Would they be considered a major band if they'd arrived 5-10 years later? Well, they were major.

A Brief History... and The 3-Way were both reissued last month, the former with some extra '94 era tracks, plus one never released called "G. Cobalt Franklin." Maybe that's one of the unnamed songs? I'll check it out later.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Monday, 8 March 2021 18:58 (one year ago) link

That song was previously one of the instrumentals on Send In The Subs along with the others that were instrumentals of the 4 songs from the Aspera Ad Astra split. With that, I think there is still one instrumental left on Subs that doesn't have vocals tied to it elsewhere.

Evan, Monday, 8 March 2021 19:03 (one year ago) link

All the others can be mostly boiled down to a short description because they are straightforward exercises regardless of how you rate them.

Haha, to me it's the "Talk Talk/David Sylvian/Japan" album.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 8 March 2021 20:31 (one year ago) link

That one instrumental left on send in the subs,I fight my urges to listen to it cause I wanna experience the otherworldly feel that I fail to describe when it was paired with vocals.

nancy stein, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 01:56 (one year ago) link

Do you guys know lilys fansite has an YouTube account?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCBizgeb6e7

nancy stein, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:00 (one year ago) link

it's "returns everymorning". no space between every morning.

nancy stein, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:01 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_MpvIGlcOc
one of its videos

nancy stein, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:03 (one year ago) link

^^^That was a good tour. It was The Beachwood Sparks full band backing Kurt (which at that point in time shared a couple common members).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 March 2021 16:32 (one year ago) link

omg,I did not know that. I'd love to see live videos at this point in time. I find myself liking these band members' projects as well,beachwood sparks,the photon band...I remember once I was listening to a compilation and the only two songs I liked belonged to Beachwood Sparks which I only find out later was in connection with lilys.

nancy stein, Friday, 12 March 2021 13:49 (one year ago) link

Photon Band is very underrated! I like them

Evan, Friday, 12 March 2021 19:32 (one year ago) link

I need to revisit Beachwood Sparks... I have always been a HUGE Further fan, massive- but mostly for the California sun warped Dinosaur Jr tape vibes unique to that stuff in particular.

Evan, Friday, 12 March 2021 22:02 (one year ago) link

I love the photon band very much!It's my favorite side band.

nancy stein, Saturday, 13 March 2021 02:59 (one year ago) link

I like peas

intrusive dobro, shoeless guest (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 March 2021 03:03 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

I don't know if this is common but it popped up on D1me@d0zen today, so I thought I'd share:

Lilys - 1991 xx xx Washington DC

Show note:
Very early Lilys show, featuring many unknown tracks. Any ideas?

1 Tra-La La-la
2 Elizabeth Colour Wheel (early)
3 Any Several Sundays
4 Unknown Track 1
5 Unknown Track 2
6 Salad Bar
7 Unknown Track 2
8 Unknown Track 3

https://www.fromsmash.com/aRZlCy5Wqf-bt

Maresn3st, Thursday, 17 June 2021 18:14 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

im kinda gobsmacked, this band ticks every little tickbox on my chart, even with all the variations, even the kraut techno, and i know beachwood sparks, and apples quite well and i thought i knew all the shoegaze erwhere, and like...all that shit. but i've never listened to lilys once. or was even aware of how obviously perfectly i am made for their stuff. i will say my first listen, thanks to ilm threads was bcmylb, and my initial reaction was 'this good,' and my second was 'this is kevin barnes singing the kinks. it's kevin barnes, right'? since then i'm just mainlining every rabbit hole. huh.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Thursday, 30 December 2021 04:57 (seven months ago) link

That’s great! What’s your thought on the period just before the kinks transformation? Namely Eccsame The Photon Band

Evan, Thursday, 30 December 2021 11:29 (seven months ago) link

i really like eccsame, but i've listened only like 2 times. i will update once i've listened more. i DLed like some rarities collection from thread, and that any several sundays track is awesome. there's so much to hear. it's great. my buddy who's a huge bjm fan hit me with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwvysOIk9U and now i'm just convinced i like whatever this guy does pretty much.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Thursday, 30 December 2021 22:37 (seven months ago) link

Eccsame still hasn’t soaked in next-level enough for me to comment, but the bcmylb and 3 way stuff is so in my head all the time for now…i’m like obsessed with trying to know all the things in a fanboy way.

first time i’ve ever seen heasley interviewed, and i at least get his charisma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCm94bDG_FU

(Getting obsessed with great great talented almost-stars is def my style, prev jason falkner, where I end buying japan only releases and shit, or bid and monochrome set, in which i’m like, “i’m gonna have to go to UK to see this legend, but how? 🤷🏻‍♂️)

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:45 (seven months ago) link

I DLed the import Precollection from above. this is fucking great. Bits of eatb (esp guitar attack) and teardrop explodes and VU, all with his usual shit and great memorable melodies. the songs, the songs.

idg the dislike on it i’ve read at all. I dont think its ever pastiche, it’s just…everything, while it sounds fantastic. To me. This guy blows my mind on merit, and also by having escaped my notice.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Friday, 7 January 2022 23:27 (seven months ago) link

BCMYLB at its best (e.g. Tennis System) is like the song-form equivalent of babbling. Verbose lyrics that never come up for air, chord changes on every other beat that sometimes aren't repeated, and no dynamic range, with only vertical leaps in the melody to break up the monotony. I admire the audacity of disguising this super weird songwriting style as a British Invasion throwback record.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 8 January 2022 01:22 (seven months ago) link

“never come up for air” 🤷🏻‍♂️

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Saturday, 8 January 2022 01:25 (seven months ago) link

Heya Hunt3r, so good to read about your enthusiasm for Lilys, have you heard this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ITut57JiA

Maresn3st, Saturday, 8 January 2022 13:04 (seven months ago) link

Timely thread revive

all aboard pic.twitter.com/oUFNpdYHf6

— l i l y s (@theLILYS) January 7, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 8 January 2022 13:16 (seven months ago) link

I thought that's why the thread was revived!

Anyway, count me among the people that missed out on the band more or less entirely. In my case I think I was always confused by comparisons to both the Kinks *and* shoegaze. At the time my brain could just not make that compute.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 January 2022 14:38 (seven months ago) link

They have covered a lot of ground, even the differences between BCMYLB and The 3 Way (arguably in the same stylistic genre) are noticeable.

It definitely started off very beholden to MBV, before that 1966 feel crept in.

But even ETPB, which came before, is the most wonderfully unusual, soporific gaze record, slowly edging toward those 1960s elements.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 8 January 2022 14:51 (seven months ago) link

I think I always got them mixed up with the Swirlies, too.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 January 2022 17:14 (seven months ago) link

maresn3st, thanks. i had not heard that, i like it a lot-- edgy retropsych, sounds like from bcmylb era

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Sunday, 9 January 2022 02:44 (seven months ago) link

I like peas

Ssäm Sauce | Martha Stewart (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 9 January 2022 03:37 (seven months ago) link

"I think I was always confused by comparisons to both the Kinks *and* shoegaze. At the time my brain could just not make that compute."

after listening to two alt takes of Any Several Sundays, then just now hearing the version off the Selected ep for the first time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOKeNxAxzfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxuJUDCykGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R4NdGAIE0U

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:33 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Lilys
2022-01-20
Starlet Lounge at Harlow's
Sacramento CA

Setlist

00 intro [7:48]
01 The Hermit Crab [4:01]
02 Threw A Day [4:10]
03 There's No Such Thing as Black Horchids [5:40]
04 Coby [6:04]
05 High Writer at Home [6:57]
06 Ginger [6:01]
07 Overlit Canyon (The Obscured Wingtip Memoir) [4:53]
08 Claire Hates Me [4:43]
09 Tone Bender [3:28]
10 Day of the Monkey [4:49]
11 Elizabeth Colour Wheel [7:34]
12 Radiotricity [3:33]
13 Your Guest and Host [4:58]
14 Dandy [7:40]

15 Will My Lord Be Gardening [3:48]
16 Elevator Is Temporary [2:48]

https://www.fromsmash.com/6x42yu76ZN-bt

Maresn3st, Sunday, 23 January 2022 17:52 (six months ago) link

Hunt3r sorry I’ve not been engaging more with your Lilys dive I think it’s awesome though and glad you’re enjoying all of the phases!

Evan, Sunday, 23 January 2022 18:25 (six months ago) link

Wow that’s a very overwhelmingly 1995 era setlist. Cool!

Evan, Sunday, 23 January 2022 18:27 (six months ago) link

No worry at all— also, this thread has enough volume and depth that the education available is pretty nice.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Sunday, 23 January 2022 19:28 (six months ago) link

three months pass...

Nice, the Harlow's recording was done by me. Used Zoom H1n with built-in mics.

Here's a more permanent link to the lossless version:
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZuhJrXZu2sel87QYNJcd9moKYsap7QYUiay

thehappyone, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:49 (three months ago) link

TY!

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Thursday, 12 May 2022 02:37 (two months ago) link


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