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I'm looking for some gospel recommendations. Not particularly croony stuff, more upbeat things with a ton of people clapping and stomping along. You always hear about it, but its not so easy to find. Looking for something like the first couple Blind Boys of Alabama things. "I'll fly away", particularly.

tyler (tyler), Thursday, 6 May 2004 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd suggest getting the catalogue sent to you. It is bootiful and ideal for reading in the toilet.

hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 6 May 2004 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Check out Dorothy Love Coates ("That's Enough"), the Swan Silvertones and the Sensational Nightingales for starters.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 6 May 2004 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Brother Joe May

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

New Burying Ground/ Standing on the Judgement, Sensational Nightingales
When God Dips His Pen Of Love In My Heart, Five Blind Boys of Miss

rumple., Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

all this week i've been using a live recording of the harlem gospel choir performing oh happy day for my wake-up alarm music. it's not old-timey but def upbeat, lots of clapping.

are they (the hgc) considered inheritors of the gospel mantle or are they frowned on by purists (and why)? are distinctions like this even made in gospel?

common_person (common_person), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

If you can afford this...

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

No stomping and clapping, but the Golden Gate Quartet were one the swingin'-est combos of any kind of all time, and with no rhythm section in sight. Just sayin'.

See also The Ladykillers soundtrack and work outward from there.

Lee G (Lee G), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard an amazing track from this on Steve Cushing's show last Saturday. Or wait, maybe it was the blues show that comes on before Steve's show. ANyway, I need to get a copy of this record tout suite. How did I miss it?

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha I was going to say "OOOH OOH BLIND BOYS OF ALABAMA". Clearly I am useless.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know much about gospel, but whilst making a CDR in honour of my friend's young daughter I dl'ed "Lily in the Valley" by John P. Kee which is Righteous indeed.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Here is the massive gospel section at the Louisiana Music Factory website.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

The Mighty Walker Brothers - "God Been Good To Me" is fucking awesome

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Interesting Geoff Himes article in the Sunday August 5th NY Times even if I'm not wowed by the secular release material by retro-soul singer Ryan Shaw and steel guitar player Robert Randolph that I have heard.

“It’s that Catch-22,” he explained backstage at Artscape. “The traditions of the church allow it to preserve musical styles that might otherwise be lost, but it can also make for stagnation. Things are always changing in youth culture, especially in black music, and young people want to hear those changes in church.

“If the church gives in too easily to those changes, gospel music will lose its identity,” he said, “but if it resists those changes too much, it will alienate the youth. That’s why you have all these battles about what is gospel music and what God wants to hear.”

It’s funny, Mr. Shaw said, what churches will and won’t accept. “When R&B started using jazzy chords like 7ths, 9ths and 13ths, you couldn’t use them in church because that was ‘the devil’s music,’ ” he said. “But as soon as R&B moved on to something else, suddenly it was O.K. to use those chords because the devil wasn’t using them anymore.

“Just like in the clothes world, where some stores will sell last year’s fashions, the church often ends up using the last decade’s R&B fashions.”

Thus stars like Kirk Franklin and Da’ T.R.U.T.H. might bring funk and old-school rap to the gospel charts, but there’s still a time lag between the sounds on urban radio and those on gospel radio. And in more conservative churches you’ll find the styles of ’60s soul, ’50s doo-wop or ’40s quartets perfectly preserved. If you want to learn the craft of those genres, the church is the place to study.

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 August 2007 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

mentioned this in a blues thread but it really belongs here more than anything: Elder Curry - "Memphis Flu." Stomping, handclaps, shouting, barrelhouse piano, fire and brimstone, the whole nine yards. Also features the awesome couplet "Yes, He killed the rich and poor / and He's going to kill more".

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Lula Collins, The Delta Gospel Queen, this is amazing gospel music.

oscar, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

never gave much thought to gospel, but this mix is great:

sanskrit, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

sweet. gospel funk like this and that numero group mix is great and all, but i still haven't found a record exactly like the original poster is looking for. two-beat stuff, choir, tambourines, etc. i've only really heard it live, but there have to be some decent records out there!

Jordan, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

okay, this mix is pretty sick. wish i could download!

Jordan, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

the new Cece Winans is really something

J0hn D., Friday, 4 April 2008 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Interesting Washington Post feature on Kirk Franklin, the top-selling modern gospel artist. He's still not happy.

curmudgeon, Friday, 4 April 2008 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

that is a good article curmudgeon thanks for it!

J0hn D., Friday, 4 April 2008 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"Leaning on the Everlasting Arm" by Iris DeMent. Will Paypal you a buck if you don't like it.

felicity, Friday, 4 April 2008 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

(a but croony but in a different way)

felicity, Friday, 4 April 2008 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

she's good but I'm listening to people who really love Jesus right now

J0hn D., Friday, 4 April 2008 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

like, really REALLY

J0hn D., Friday, 4 April 2008 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I just got Memphis Flu.

felicity, Friday, 4 April 2008 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Jordan, Friday, 4 April 2008 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Jordan, Friday, 4 April 2008 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Jordan, Friday, 4 April 2008 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

this doesn't really do it justice, but i love that neko case version of 'this little light' that's on her live album.

Jordan, Friday, 4 April 2008 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Irma Thomas, will be featured on the season finale of ABC’s Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. In the episode, the Extreme Makeover project is Noah’s Ark Missionary Baptist Church, which was destroyed by the flood waters of Hurricane Katrina. After the completion of the church, Thomas performs the gospel song “Singing Hallelujah” in its new sanctuary. She is accompanied by Hammond B-3 organist Dwight Franklin and pianist Diane Peterson, from the historic New Orleans First African Baptist Church. The episode airs Sunday, May 18 at 8 PM EST/7 PM CST.

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 May 2008 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Wow. Just saw the Original Soul Invaders from Industry, Texas do an incredible show at the Smithsonian Folklife Festival down between the Washington Monument and the Capitol in DC. Guitar, bass, drums, keyboard and a number of vocalists. They mix classic gospel soul quartet wailing vocals with soul and funk rhythms. Reverend Green plays electric guitar and he jumped off the stage onto the Texas Dancehall tent dance floor and played Texas blues meets Bo Diddley meets Chuck Berry meets Curtis Mayfield stylings. The singer also ended up on the dance floor doing soul shouting and dancing and clapping. The singer was chanting at one point something that sounded like "Got to be a Holy Ghost Party, cuz a holy ghost party don't stop." They had no cds for sale and I've yet to find anything about them on the internet other than a photo on Flickr that does not convey the excitement of the show I saw. Below is their bio from the Smithsonian Folkife Fest website:

The Original Soul Invaders, Industry, Texas
Roy Green
Danny Davis
Demontreal Edmond
David Scott
Chadwick Turner
Chris Washington
The Original Soul Invaders draw on the amplified quartet tradition popular with African American gospel groups in Texas. Founder and leader Roy Green, who pastors the Mars Hill Deliverance Tabernacle Church in Fayetteville, Texas, started the group in the late 1970s.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 6 July 2008 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe M. McGonigal (sp.?)of Yeti publishing can track them down and release something.

curmudgeon, Monday, 7 July 2008 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

yes you spelled my name right, thanks.

and i *am* starting my own sub-label of mississippi records this year. would certainly love to hear that group based on your description. any way i can hear 'em perhaps?

i love folklife fests 'cause i always go to them thinking "bah humbug" and emerge super psyched about something.

it's hard for me to add to this thread 'cause i don't know really what kind of gospel people are looking for -- there's so much variety to this music, from so many eras, and a lot of what people are digging to me personally is friggin crony but i do not want to belittle what they're digging, you know?

when getting into this stuff, there's so much golden age era gospel music that is just amazing. be careful that the music you're getting is that group at their height, however -- you'll never see worse attention paid to release dates/ personnel than you will with gospel.

Mike McGooney-gal, Monday, 7 July 2008 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

CORNY not crony

Mike McGooney-gal, Monday, 7 July 2008 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I never did find a contact address.

Has anybody seen this American Idol like tv show involving US church gospel choirs? There are apparently competitions in 14 cities that people can attend.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

i really want to see that.

arby's, Friday, 3 September 2010 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

i never tire of this particular video:

by the time time the halfway mark hits i have trouble sitting still

arby's, Friday, 3 September 2010 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

anyone heard this gospel comp? samples sound good.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 3 September 2010 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

Sherman Washington died this week. Mr. Washington was really the heart and soul of the Gospel Tent at the Jazz Fest, and was instrumental in taking gospel music outside of its church roots to a more mainstream audience with his group, the Zion Harmonizers, who won OffBeat's Best of The Beat award repeatedly for Best Gospel Group. He passed away after a lengthy illness at the age of 85. Reportedly there will be a tribute to Mr. Washington at this year's Jazz Fest.

From the website of New Orleans magazine Offbeat

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 March 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

I watched Singsation this morning. Normally I'm sleeping or doing something else. I have to remember to watch this more often!

Die, Foghat, Die (Mount Cleaners), Sunday, 25 September 2011 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
Vintage Atlanta soul i found in a thrift shop years ago. I did this vinyl rip but warning it may have a skip or two...

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

man, those Mike McGooney-gal gospel comps on tompkins sq. are the gifts that keep on giving.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:57 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

probably the best $4 you'll spend today
says ian nagoski: "When the Moon Goes Down in the Valley of Time: African-American Gospel, 1939-51 is a compilation I worked on sporadically over the past year dealing with prayers, promises, and visions of death and the apocalypse in the proto-Civil Rights era. When it became clear that there was no publisher for it, I abandoned it with the sound restoration only 80% done and without notes. It’s now available as 18 tracks (48 minutes) for $4."

tylerw, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:41 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

heard this a couple weeks ago while flipping thru radio on a sunday morning, have had it in my head off and on since

goole, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

VA [2014] Say Amen!: Gospel Funk From Jewel Records

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 20 June 2014 22:26 (eight years ago) link

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 20 June 2014 22:57 (eight years ago) link

I need to see what Youtube videos have been added for The Original Soul Invaders, of Industry, Texas, since I raved about them upthread in 2008

curmudgeon, Saturday, 21 June 2014 15:04 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

His song "Total Praise" that has been covered by Destiny's Child, other gospel singers, and synagogue choirs as well, continues to get covered. The article focusses on his rebound from depression.

Still, he has watched RCA Inspiration’s younger artists, such as Donnie McClurkin and Fred Hammond, register platinum sales, while he has yet to have a single album sell more than 500,000 copies to reach gold status. Smallwood says that before his diagnosis, he felt his depression was brought on by comparing his success to others’. “I have always been very insecure about my gift,” he says.

But longtime gospel publicist Bil Carpenter says: “Richard is not for the masses. He’s for a more sophisticated, smaller group of people. He’s a thinking man’s gospel. It’s the chitlin’ circuit versus the Kennedy Center. Richard is the Kennedy Center.”


Some gospel artists, such as multiplatinum Kirk Franklin, have achieved wider commercial success by mixing in hip-hop. But Smallwood has remained with his classical sound.

Jacquie Gales Webb, who for more than 20 years has hosted a popular gospel segment on Washington’s WHUR radio, says Smallwood’s songs are distinctive because of the importance of the piano — not electric piano or keyboard playing, but a grand-piano style.

“No matter what genre he’s playing, in his music the piano is the prominent feature,” Webb says. “That’s how you know it’s a Richard Smallwood song.”

Valerie Simpson, who helped create the Motown sound as part of the husband-and-wife songwriting duo Ashford & Simpson, likens Smallwood to Stevie Wonder, because his lyrics, she says, “transcend a moment” and capture a sound of a generation that lasts for decades.

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 July 2015 13:11 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...
This Mahalia comp from '91 has some awesome songs on it, fuck me - such a voice.

calzino, Friday, 22 January 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Saw a 10 act classic gospel marathon show Saturday. Blind Boys of Mississippi and Swanee Quintet were great. Spencer Taylor and the Highway QCs were good, as were many of the other acts.

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:51 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

This 2017 Film doc “How I Got Over” about pioneering gospel acts including Highway QCs and others looks good.

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

one year passes...
one year passes...

Gospel star Rance Allen, whose Rance Allen Group drew upon contemporary sounds for such 1970s hits as “Ain’t No Need of Crying” and “I Belong To You” and anticipated such crossover gospel artists as The Winans and Amy Grant, has died at age 71.

Allen’s wife, Ellen Allen, and manager Toby Jackson announced in a joint statement that Allen died early Saturday (Oct. 31) while recovering from a “medical procedure” at Heartland ProMedica in Sylvania, Ohio. Allen was a longtime Toledo, Ohio resident and most recently bishop for Church of God in Christ for the Michigan Northwestern Harvest Jurisdiction.

I need to post some of the videos I saw on twitter. What a voice and range-- from deep lows to falsetto highs.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 1 November 2020 18:11 (two years ago) link

I popped into the gospel tent to see him when I went to Jazzfest last year, he was raising the roof. Glad now that I did, RIP.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 1 November 2020 18:44 (two years ago) link

His performance in Wattstax is so great. I assumed for years he was a Memphis/southern guy, didn’t discover until years later he was from Michigan.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 1 November 2020 19:16 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

various recent live gospel videos

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:38 (eleven months ago) link

Oops, well subscribe to the right Christopher Klug youtube and you will find gospel

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

I've started getting into the Pilgrim Travelers lately, just impeccable, electrifying music

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 March 2023 03:21 (three weeks ago) link

that’s really cool. I’ve been getting into some Golden Gate Quartet, around the same time I think. the interplay of their voices is not infrequently astounding

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 6 March 2023 03:32 (three weeks ago) link

yeah it looks like that's 1939 and the tune I posted is 1947. Def some stylistic similarities. And you can really hear a lot of boogie and pre-rock and roll in the rhythm

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 March 2023 03:38 (three weeks ago) link

RIP falsetto singer Paul Beasley who was in Mighty Clouds of Joy and other groups

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:15 (two weeks ago) link

Oops I think it was just the anniversary of his death recently

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:21 (two weeks ago) link

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