Jean Michel-Jarre

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Tangerine dream wannabe wanker or messianic post-Carlos synth wizard?

Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Snoozeworthy, but in a really pleasant way.

Dan Perry, Sunday, 4 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i;ve posted theis on other pages for no good reason, but side 2 of "equinoxe" - it's so aphex twin! (maybe somehow better as it lacks the "my programming is more complicated than yours" impetus that can make his stuff tiresome).

bob snoom, Sunday, 4 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I wonder if he uses a sequencer...I hear constant sisxteenth notes.

Mike Hanle y, Sunday, 4 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I bought "Equinoxe" about 15 years ago under the influence of some European classmates, and kinda liked it then. Don't remember playing it al all in the last ten years at least. Maybe I will if it's like Aphex Twin... I'll feel so modern!

Sean, Sunday, 4 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Erm...parts of 'Concerts in China' are ace (and I checked about a year ago ;)

Omar, Sunday, 4 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

wouldn't it be "Aphex Twins sounds like JMJ? " I mean, he did come first.

Mike Hanle y, Sunday, 4 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

his first two LPs (Oxygene, 76? and Equinoxe, 77?) are amazing, and you can hear the synth sounds, filter sweeps etc still being an influence to producers today. i hear a lot of JMJ style bits in some Andrew Weatherall tracks, for example. i think his later stuff, and the Docklands laser extravaganza type concerts lose him cred points in the 'publicly admitable influences' stakes, but he should be up there with Kraftwerk, i reckon

m jemmeson, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i love jean michel jarre. remember that docklands concert with the laser harps. fuck he was cool.

ambrose, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the point i was trying to make was that he was never 'cool', which is why his music never gets the same respect as other synth pioneers, like Kraftwerk, Walter Carlos, JJ Perrey, etc

m jemmeson, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

TOMITA! now he really fucking rocks!

bob snoom, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes Tomita is cool but I was disapointed by his version of Rhapsody in Blue. I far prefer the Kingsley version.

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Electronica-lite, what used to impress me (Zoolook, Oxygen) sounds like Muzak now, bland and contrived. Nothing wrong with that, but there's just no room for him in my life. File under - What-have-you- done-for-me-lately - along with Mike Oldfield, Michael Jackson and... er..... Uri Geller.

K-reg, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

tomita's pictures at an exhibition and the space album and night on bare mountain. wow! is there anyone else who has conquered the realm of "planetarium music" to quite the extent that tomita has??? what's he up to these days. v. popular at firework displays, also.

bob snoom, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bhMgD_W9UY

if only the rest of zoolook was so great...

, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

oh man that is hilariously 80's damaged, self-inflicted humor, it really is no wonder

you need a certain kind of hat on to enjoy the rest of zoolook maybe, but I love that whole record. even the slap-bass samples.

everything Jarre did 76 through 84 is fine by me.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 19:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R04P4h2cwo&mode=related&search=

video for 'zoolook' actually pretty dr.-calgari-good! directed by Marc Caro years before 'delicatessen' / 'city of lost children'

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 19:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

So... I'm off to see him on Friday - bought the tickets in a rush of i-spy/tick off the artist nostalgia and now regretting it a bit. Especially as I've roped in a friend who really isnt into any electronic music, and I suspect my tastes have moved on from the late 80s (last time I really listened to JMJ). Plus what was promised as a "spectacular" just seems to be a load of lasers from the Youtube clips I seen

Feel free to rip the piss out of me now...

But - um - anyone else going?

Ant, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

So he's releasing (or re-releasing, who cares?) an Essentials/Rarities compilation soon... Time for a revival (or just a vival in many cases?)

I always think of him as the Gypsy Kings of electronic music.

broodje kroket (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

That statement is as wacky as just about everything posted on this thread with the exception of Milton Parker's posts. That Essentials comp is great and I'm kinda stoked that the pre-Oxygene stuff is finally getting a proper release. I have heard those first two albums and they are cool if you are interested in odd-sounding electronic library music.

everything, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

EYE from boredoms remixed 'equinoxe part 5' a few years back. i thought that might get jarre some love from the hipsters, but most people just thought it was a new and radical EYE thing

beautiful cover, though: http://www.oogaboogastore.com/shop/music/detail/LiftBoys12.html

geeta, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

I said it in the Zombi thread and I'll say it here: people getting really excited about this new generation of synth-heavy instrumental rock really need to check out some JMJ - that new Zombi is pretty much a tribute to Magnetic Fields with rockier drums.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

imo Oxygene, Equinox, and Magnetic Fields are all classic, and Zoolook is some kind of uber-classic once in a lifetime achievement in unique sound. I should give another listen to the live one. Never heard of the EYE remix!

I have MP3s of that early stuff but have never really clicked with it, "library music" sounds accurate to me.

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

I have just now this minute realized that Zombi the band has entirely nothing to do with Zomby the grimey UK dude. I think I need to hear that album now.

The live one you're talking about is the Concerts In China? I used to cane that one continually when I was a youngster (in fact my one shoplifting incident was getting caught trying to steal a cassette of this from Woolworths) but the vibe is a bit weird in retrospect. It's kind of like when James Last does rock'n'noll numbers - easy listening trying to rock out. The track selection is good obviously, since it's from his golden period but it lacks the shiny pop ambience of the studio albums.

everything, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

eg. Used to love this. Now :-S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQo9niQEr4w

everything, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

>people getting really excited about this new generation of synth-heavy instrumental rock really need to check out some JMJ

seriously true!

'Concerts in China' is fair, his cheesiest tendencies come to the fore when he takes extended solos over the studio versions. And yeah it's got 'Orient Express' which has always been bad roller-disco, but it's got Arpeggiator which is better than most of the ninth-rate obscurities getting reissued and heralded that are nowhere close to the same league as 'Magnetic Fields' and 'Zoolook' are.

I still pull out 'Zoolook' occasionally for road trips, if it was good enough for Arthur C. Clarke it's good enough for me

Interested in the 'Rarities' disc -- the early 71/73 home studio stuff I'd agree have very modest arrangements, but the 68/69 GRM Studios stuff is actually pretty zonked in much the same way as Henry's 'Psyche Rock' or those Perrey-Kingsley records - when he had the resources, he wasn't a slacker

the first track on Rarities is undeniably good

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

word to the wise: don't fall asleep while listening to 'Zoolook'. weirdest dreams ever.

geeta, Monday, 27 June 2011 16:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

kind of surprised that I'm finding Magnetic Fields and Zoolook better than his first two albums

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Magnetic Fields is great...have been listening to this on Rdio and on vinyl recently! (Had mad love for Zoolook at the time but not sure it holds up for me all these years later...it seems to be much more of its time.)

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

It definitely is but besides some Harry Hosono records I don't know of anyone who abused the digital sampler of the 80's like that.

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I bought the Live In Your Living Room DVD not too long ago -- which is Oxygene live with a couple of other guys on what must be about three-quarters of s millions dollars in vintage gear. It's actually kind of amazing and wonderful. This isn't an "update" the way Oxygene 7-13 was -- but absolutely spot on renditions of music recorded 35 years ago.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:18 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i've watched that "live" dvd.
i even sat there with the 3d glasses on. old school blue/red glasses as opposed to the modern 3d visuals which does little other than make the weird lampshades stick out a little.
sounds the same as the original, only more upfront.
the live recording must have taken some setting up.
can well imagine its synth pr0n for people who like that kind of thing.

mark e, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I like that kind of thing. It's a really good performance.

+1 on Zoolook, which Milton and I have expounded on over various threads (tho curiously not this one). Some really sophisticated sound design and even a catchy tune or two.

Does the rarities comp have the 12"s from that? 12" of Equinoxe Part 5 (I think) is also pretty great.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Laurie Anderson on "Diva"!

fear itself (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Does the rarities comp have the 12"s from that?

No, that only contains some of his pre-Oxygene stuff. Deliciously weird material, that.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I was actually able to track down those early albums. The soundtrack is crap (same theme, over and over again) but Deserted Palace is kinda neat, for 1972 electronica. Only one track really worked for me (Pogo Rock?) but it's a werid exercise and there aren't many albums like it.

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that new rarities comp also contains too many tracks of that soundtrack - which has been released separately on CD already. But it is nice to have Eros Machine, La Cage, and the like in good quality remaster.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

"Fourth Rendez-Vous" is really good. Sooner or later I'm gonna have to make a disc with all of Jarre's great 3-5 minute pop tunes - this, Oxygene 4, Equinoxe 5, Magnetic Fields 2, Zoolook, Zoolookologie, and whatever else

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 15:42 (six years ago) Permalink

oh dear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ebMlcxMoDUQ#!

geeta, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:38 (six years ago) Permalink

let's try that again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebMlcxMoDUQ

geeta, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

1) The Time Machine (JMJ & Boys Noize)
2) Glory (JMJ & M83)
3) Close your eyes (JMJ & AIR)
4) Automatic (part 1) (JMJ & Vince Clarke)
5) Automatic (part 2) (JMJ & Vince Clarke)
6) If..! (JMJ & Little Boots)
7) Immortals (JMJ & Fuck Buttons)
8) Suns have gone (JMJ & Moby)
9) Conquistador (JMJ & Gesaffelstein)
10) Travelator (part 2) (JMJ & Pete Townshend)
11) Zero Gravity (JMJ & Tangerine Dream)
12) Rely on me (JMJ & Laurie Anderson)
13) Stardust (JMJ & Armin van Buuren)
14) Watching you (JMJ & 3D (Massive Attack))
15) A question of blood (JMJ & John Carpenter)
16) The train & the river (JMJ & Lang Lang)

Matt DC, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:37 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Excellent new interview (in French). Gets really in depth about his past, working methods, the "industry". Very cool. http://www.liberation.fr/apps/2015/10/jmjarre/

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 9 October 2015 13:38 (two years ago) Permalink

I know Oxygene and Equinoxe are considered to be his classics, but I read more about the former than I ever do the latter. It's strange, even though Equinoxe is considered to be one of his best works, it still seldom seems to get talked about, especially in comparison to Oxygene. I see it as a far more upbeat work, too.

Turrican, Friday, 9 October 2015 13:55 (two years ago) Permalink

his first 4 records all deserve to be considered classics, if Oxygene is at least. there's a later album called Chronologie that's also very good.

frogbs, Friday, 9 October 2015 14:10 (two years ago) Permalink

He mentions in that interview that when he was mixing Equinoxe he had to lock the studio doors in order to prevent record company execs from barging in and taking his tapes. They were in such a frenzy to release the album they wouldn't let JMJ finish his work!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 9 October 2015 14:44 (two years ago) Permalink

xpost He says good things about Chronologie here. Says he feels it didn't age poorly for a 90s album. He's not a fan of his last one - Teo & Tea

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 9 October 2015 14:46 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah I didn't read a single positive review of that one. I think the idea behind his newest release is cool, especially from such a veteran as Jarre, though I'm not expecting much honestly

frogbs, Friday, 9 October 2015 15:06 (two years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

*faaarrrrtttttt*

brimstead, Saturday, 31 October 2015 02:54 (two years ago) Permalink

house nation has some words for you

brimstead, Saturday, 31 October 2015 02:54 (two years ago) Permalink

oh man, that Pet Shop Boys track could be very good

frogbs, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:56 (two years ago) Permalink

I gave the last one a go but his melodic sense is just so corny I couldn't get with it at all.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:59 (two years ago) Permalink

I kinda like his corny stuff...the long floaty bits are what usually do me in

frogbs, Friday, 19 February 2016 19:01 (two years ago) Permalink

The best tracks on the last one were with collaborators who do the long floaty bits well. ie, Air. On this one the Orb, Rone and Hans Zimmer tracks are my guess as the standouts.

everything, Friday, 19 February 2016 20:04 (two years ago) Permalink

The collaboration with Tangerine Dream on the last one was like prime Froese as well.

I don't get "corny." His melodies aren't exactly sophisticated but neither are they especially hokey. Which tracks are you referring to?

For me, Jarre's strength is as a sound designer – "Ethnocolour" from Zoolook is perhaps the best example but over most of his career the guy has always had a great feel for the interrelationship of different sounds and how to position them across the stereo spectrum.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 19 February 2016 20:36 (two years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

huh

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/jean-michel-jarre/oxygene-3/

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2016 14:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I know :/ I thought that the second Oxygene record was a bad idea itself, as pleasant as it is, it doesn't (and was never going to) come close to the original. I'm curious to hear the new one, but dreading it at the same time. Still, it's nice in a way that all three volumes were released roughly 20 years apart from each other.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 4 November 2016 20:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Might have to listen to the Oxygene II again b/c I remember it being quite decent. If nothing else it's cool that he brought all the old synths back. Maybe I'm wrong but I remember a lot of his 90's stuff being quite...good, actually?

either way Jarre is in the same phase of his career that Sylvester Stallone is in now, he can keep jamming out sequels and superstar collab albums till the end of time if he wants

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Underrated moment on Oxygene: Part III, all of it. Wish it was longer!

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Part 17 (!) is actually pretty good. I also like Electronica, Vol.2 a lot. He's having his best year in eons.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:54 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm just glad he's back - was afraid he'd end his career on the rather abysmal Téo & Téa

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Electronica was extremely uneven though, 2 more so than 1. I guess that's inevitable with collabs, but I'm not holding my breath for another Oxygene. He's still able to be really good, but quality control is not his forte.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Listening to Heart of Noise/Vol. 2 now – I probably prefer the first volume but with both of these records I enjoy how Jarre's innate sense of style peeks through the various styles of the collaborators and genres.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 25 November 2016 16:17 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

This guy's music is only as strong as his everloving chord choices, more than anything it just sounds like he'd do better putting together This Melody and That Chord Progression with a little more attention than he often does

He always suddenly shifts gears into a diminished chord and holds it with a raised eyebrow like "you like that? do you like it when I do that?" and just holds it too long as if a sudden diminished chord is some magical key to building suspense, like an over-confident lover who insists on circling your left nipple with a single finger for far too long

But having listened to Oxygene thru Oxygene 7-13 today, for the first time in 20 years, I can confidently say that I think his oeuvre is better, to my ears, than Kraftwerk's

And to place a challop upon challop, here is my ranking of his "golden era" records, from best to worst-- live albums excluded-- because I find them confusing--

1. Les Chants Magnetiques (best track: the whole thing, but pt. 1 because it's large scale actually works)

2. Chronologie (digital soup, yes, but his best melody writing, best track is easily pt. 4, best track Vangelis never wrote, best track never in an early 90s Future Crew Demoscene nerd demo-- that said my favourite track will forever be pt. 1)

3. Oxygène (best track: pt. 4 obv)

4. Zoolook (best track: as wild and amazing Ethnicolor is, it's the title track; Medulla could never)

5. Rendez-Vous (pt. ?, this was a personal favourite as a kid but I need to re-listen to really decide)

6. Oxygène pt. 7-13 (gorgeously conceived and gorgeously mixed, rather undistinguished but superior to hundreds of present-day throwback analog-synth-noodle-bar projects)

7. Equinoxe (beautiful in tone and colour but insipid in composition, to my ears-- never understood why it was cited as a classic over Les Chants Magnetiques-- I do like the Kraut-y b-side though, pt. 6 is my favourite track here)

8. Revolutions (don't really fuck with this album much but I like London Kid)

9. En Attendant Cousteau (album is drab and sucky, I like Calypso pt. 1 a lot tho, because of its hilarious appearance in Olympic figure skating from time to time)

The fact that this man was married to Charlotte Rampling, dated Isabelle Adjani, and is currently dating Gong Li just makes me feel weird and good

Like this nerd did good for himself, good work sexy French man, you will always be to me what Serge Gainsbourg was to so many others

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:40 (six months ago) Permalink

Kraftwerk never really allow themselves to break out of their deadpan shtick, Jarre otoh really embraces his goofiness, I do like that.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:08 (six months ago) Permalink

Your description of Jarre switching to dim chord made me irl lol

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:40 (six months ago) Permalink

I think I'd agree with a lot of this. I do really like the title track of Waiting For Cousteau - his only real foray into any kind of Roach/Eno-like drone ambience.

Revolutions is just a demo-reel for the Roland D50, but Tokyo Kid is wonderful.

I periodically think that Zoolook is going to get the widespread rediscovery is deserves, but I guess "Jean Michel Jarre's fourth album" is a tag it may never overcome.

Completely agree on how Oxy7-13 slays a lot of modern analogue synth revivalism.

I'd extend the golden age by a couple of years, because Metamorphoses (1999) is wonderful, and well up there with his best work.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:30 (six months ago) Permalink

Revolutions was the first Jarre album I bought, back when it came out. It sounds a bit muffled and that's mainly the fault of the D50 I think. Also a lot of the tracks on side one sound like he was writing them intentionally with an eye to performing them Houston/Docklands style. They just sound very 'far away' if that makes sense.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:33 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I tend to find pseudo-orchestral stuff to be a very dull look for electronica in general. Side A of Revolutions is definitely meant to be a bit of pomp for the lasers'n'fireworks.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:41 (six months ago) Permalink

yea that's a really good write up. when I first heard Les Chants Magnetiques I had to keep checking the date. 1981? Crazy.

glad you recognize Chronologie as a top JMJ album - I think it's understandable to want to toss out stuff after Zoolook, but that one really is a return to form. I think it'll go down as one of his best.

I still have not heard the two Electronica albums (the concept of which I loved, but the bad reviews kind of broke my heart), nor the latest Oxygene. Maybe now is the time...

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:43 (six months ago) Permalink

Zoolook was my first JMJ album, my never-met-until-age-10-much-older-brother-from-a-previous-marriage dubbed it onto tape for me and I listened to it constantly, and didn't realize until adulthood that this resulted in a very early exposure to Laurie Anderson's voice which I now associate with the jouissance and carelessness of childhood

I'm listening to Ethnicolor again now and like I remember all the silly vocalizations like nothing: "eye-suh! eye-suh!" "dye-yuh-yuh" "welp-me! welp-me!"

Oh shit there's that diminished chord again lol

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:44 (six months ago) Permalink

I just remember one of the hilarious vocal samples is literally a guy saying "where are my liquorice allsorts"

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:45 (six months ago) Permalink

yea for all his accomplishments making a legitimately great Fairlight album has got to be up there

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:47 (six months ago) Permalink

The Electronica albums and Oxygene 3 are all better than the various odds and ends that limped out post-Metamorphoses and all have their moments, but suffer from a lack of focus. The Electronica albums quite often slip into a sort of neon 80s dance-pop that's a bit undistiguished, and O3 doesn't have any of the teeming, organic busyness of the previous two Oxygene albums. He's on the right track though; they're by and large better than a lot of the stuff his contemporaries have been making lately, and it would be nice to see him keep up this rate of productivity as I suspect he may still have another great record in him one day.

Having checked, I think Metamorphoses might be the only one of his albums that's not readily available on streaming / DL services. Such a pity, it's terrific.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:49 (six months ago) Permalink

What is interesting to me about Jean-Michel Jarre was that he essentially invented a genre of music, this kind of polished French pop sci-fi ridiculousness that seems completely unattached to other genres, the way that Vangelis was attached to New Age, or Giorgio to disco-- he reminds me of Richard James in this regard

I guess the closest reference point I can think of for his music is "composition exercises?" So many of his tracks are like "baby's first experiment with polyphony"

I'm listening to "Second Rendez-Vous" right now and it is so amazing and lol

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:09 (six months ago) Permalink

I love the idea of JMJ stacking up the minor-thirds while raising an eyebrow and saying in a saucy frainche accent 'Oh you like that, do you? Of course you do, you minx...'

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:29 (six months ago) Permalink

He truly is Franch Dressing

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:44 (six months ago) Permalink

A+ revive, thank u fgti for that great writeup

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:54 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that list will be extremely helpful. When Oxygene 3 came out, there was a package with remasters of the first two albums, so I bought the whole thing, but I've never listened to anything else, so now I need to dig around. I doubt he'll ever fully replace Klaus Schulze as my go-to guy for long train rides, but you never know.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:05 (six months ago) Permalink

one advantage to Jean Michel Jarre is that he never released a 70-CD boxset

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:07 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I tend to find pseudo-orchestral stuff to be a very dull look for electronica in general.

― bamboohouses, Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:41 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM as hell-- this is why the Vangelisaurus was extincted

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:29 (six months ago) Permalink

JMJ honking on diminished chords is a feature, not a bug. Augmented chords too.

Xpost… I don’t think of Revolutions as a dull sounding record at all. What I like about it is how stupidly on the nose the whole Indutrial Revolutions suite is: grim slog of agrilabour -> building tempo of indutrialistaion -> white heat of techno capitalism –> post capitalism eco disaster/blues keytar solo. Like Koyannisqaatsi reduced to 16 minutes.

29 facepalms, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:51 (six months ago) Permalink

Has anyone heard Musique pour Supermarché? Is it true it's quite experimental and difficult?

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:05 (six months ago) Permalink

there is a copy floating around the internet, I think. I heard it once - the sound quality is quite poor - I remember thinking it was like an early version of Zoolook

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:07 (six months ago) Permalink

One of the tracks from Musique made it on to Zoolook, at least: Blah Blah Café

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:54 (six months ago) Permalink

Music for Supermarkets is here and is great - very much a halfway house between Magnetic Fields and Zoolook. (It got a single radio broadcast before it was sold, hence the horrible FM sound quality).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvFK9-2Jmtw

About half of it turns up on later albums - mainly Zoolook, but also Rendezvous. The versions here are completely identical, which does rather cast doubt on Jarre's claims to have destroyed the masters. (Wouldn't be the only time something like this has happened to him either - see also the "30th anniversary re-recording" of Oxygene, which quite reasonably prompted a lawsuit from his former label because it's quite self-evidently from the original master tapes.)

bamboohouses, Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:50 (six months ago) Permalink

How big a celebrity is Jarre in France? Is he say John Tesh famous or maybe Bob Seger famous or perhaps national treasure famous?

earlnash, Thursday, 15 March 2018 16:45 (six months ago) Permalink

National treasure famous, but he toured 15-20,000-seaters last year in both France and the UK, if that's any indication.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 March 2018 17:26 (six months ago) Permalink

there are now 2 'classic albums' boxsets for JMJ, second set just released.
however, they have properly messed things around.
box 1 starts at Magnetic Fields,
box 2 has Oxygene.
neither box has Equinox.
surely they should have just done them in chrono order!?

mark e, Thursday, 15 March 2018 17:58 (six months ago) Permalink

hats off fgti, that is one of the most dedicated and forgiving rankings of jarre I have seen! putting Chronologie at #2 is definitely an alternate-wormhole act of love I can only admire

moving 'moon machine' back onto main shuffle playlist now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3XRbYLTOWI

Milton Parker, Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:48 (six months ago) Permalink

Thanks Milton!

Interestingly enough, my stanning for "Chronologie", like my stanning for "Outside", was largely borne out of being in a position of ignorance-of-canon when I got into both Jarre and Bowie. I was 14 and 15 when I got into both artists, respectively, and bought all their stuff all at once. I was, much later, amazed to read that BowieNet ranked, say, "Aladdin Sane" so highly, but didn't give a fuck about "Outside"-- "are Bowie fans deaf?" I thought, "his vocals on Ziggy Stardust sound so nasal and whiny..."-- and I'd blast "I'm Deranged" with my middle finger raised

But yeah same goes for Jarre. I get that the synths got chintzier, the mood became closer to "Les Miserables", but I just had so much more of a teenage emotional response to "Chronologie" (and "Les Chants Magnetiques") than the widely-beloved "Oxygene". We watched Gallipoli in Grade 10 English class, and being the only Jarre fan in town (probably), I told friends "yeah that's not even close to his best song though" and lent them my "Chronologie" cassette

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 15 March 2018 22:34 (six months ago) Permalink

Judging from the comments on RYM, you're not the only one.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 March 2018 23:20 (six months ago) Permalink

Chronologie has always been a favourite with the hardcore Jarre fans (I used to be on the discussion lists back in the day).

Interesting that Metamorphoses is in that new Classics box (with new art, oddly). I wonder if that means it'll finally get a digital release.

bamboohouses, Friday, 16 March 2018 13:49 (six months ago) Permalink

i still think AERO is the best way to experience JMJ.
all the best bits in massive wall shaking stereo.

mark e, Friday, 16 March 2018 23:14 (six months ago) Permalink

(the "30th anniversary re-recording" of Oxygene, which quite reasonably prompted a lawsuit from his former label because it's quite self-evidently from the original master tapes.)

I just told this anecdote and Kathryn said “putting the G back in Gallic”

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 17 March 2018 03:59 (six months ago) Permalink

this LP is my favorite Oxygene pastiche:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBAk6NnFOL8

had (crüt), Saturday, 17 March 2018 04:30 (six months ago) Permalink

Do hardcore Jarre fans call themselves JarreHeads? (don't look at me, I'm a Philip K. Dick fan)

StanM, Saturday, 17 March 2018 08:18 (six months ago) Permalink

I am not the first to mention it but Oxygene Pt. 17 should not be overlooked in the trilogy. It very much belongs with it’s forbears.

As noted upthread, the Electronica albums have their moments – I rep for the T. Dream collaboration as it is the last thing Froese released (or first posthumous release I can’t remember). The Air collaboration is also very much everything you would hope it would be given their ancestry.

Also, while it’s amusing that Jarre was sued about the Oxygene re-recording—it does sound awfully close—was that actually proven? Jarre did an extensive interview with Sound on Sound to discuss how he (re-)made that record – and the live DVD (“Live In Your Living Room”) also sounds very, very close (and is quite good). Interview is here: https://www.soundonsound.com/people/jean-michel-jarre

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 17 March 2018 17:37 (six months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

The new Planet Jarre comp looks like it's shaping up to be a bit more interesting than these things usually are. Some unreleased rarities (including one of the tracks from Music For Supermarkets that didn't later turn up on Zoolook or Rendez-Vous), some new bits (Herbalizer is a fun/silly breaks/EDM workout thing), and some new versions of old bits (a studio recording of Magnetic Fields 2 based on the Concerts in China live version, nice new remix of Oxygene 8).

Also, Oxygene 7-13, Metamorphoses and Geometry of Love all popped up on Spotify (and presumably other streaming services) today, so now when I bang the drum for Metamorphoses people can actually go and listen to it.

bamboohouses, Friday, 24 August 2018 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

There's going to be an Equinoxe sequel - Equinoxe Infinity - in November. There's a preview track up on Spotify, it's an OTT bit of sci-fi bombast that doesn't really give much away about the rest of the record. Two different sleeves, which both continue his recent losing streak on the design front, but are magnificently proggy.

Also, Planet Jarre's out today. Track choice and sequencing are excellent - I love the divisions into Soundscapes, Themes, Sequences, Explorations & Early Works which seem designed to add weight to the idea of Jarre as someone with an interesting and varied body of work. But most of the tracks are just faded excerpts - seems a shame that they weren't properly blended or mixed, especially given that there's a bunch of new reworks/remixes on here.

The revised Chronologie 4 has an absolutely dire new MIDI electric guitar solo at the end, btw.

bamboohouses, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:06 (one week ago) Permalink


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