let's talk about it! Television played this one last week, which they never did back in the day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSsXABdBNw
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSsXABdBNw
i really like that song. the clientele do a groovy version but it doesn't appear to be on youtube.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
Crazy, I've just seen these posts and I'm actually listening to 'The Fire' right now on my copy of Adventure! Great song, and absolutely wonderful guitar work as always. I can see why Adventure tends to get overlooked... it followed up a stone-cold classic in Marquee Moon, and its material is a touch more relaxed, maybe... but the more I listen to it, the more it gets its claws in me. There really isn't a song on Adventure I dislike, for what it's worth!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
I recall Adventure getting a two star review in UNCUT for the reissue, alone with MM's five stars. Seemed really OTT rather than standing on its own merits (which it has). It's not MM but it's not a two star album either (IMO).
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
Also surprised that, at that time (00s anyway), it seemed Adventure was getting quite a lot of credit on its own whilst keeping things realistic, rather than people dismissing it offhand just because it wasn't MM (and it isn't, but anyway..)
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's more than a bit OTT, IMO... I definitely don't think Adventure is a two star record!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 26 April 2013 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
finally watched the 1974 tape from ork's loft. verlaine is so animated, jumping around & smiling, kinda reminiscent of thurston moore circa 1983 & in fact the blurry untuned guitar sound resembled sonic youth to a startling degree. huh. too bad hell's mike didn't work but still a revelation.
― screen scraper (m coleman), Friday, 26 April 2013 11:10 (eleven years ago) link
I think my issue with Adventure is how it kinda fizzles out with the last track.
Now, it has the title track to 'end' it, which isn't exactly 'great' but it does what was needed.
C'mon! It has "Foxhole", "Careful" and "Aint that nothing". And "Glory", and and and....
― Mark G, Friday, 26 April 2013 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
Terry Ork's loft rehearsal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcGEcB5M4es
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
"Persia" is my new jam
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's great, total trance music. i have one version that's close to 20 minutes.
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
Get outta here, the solo is among the best guitar playing I've ever in my life
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
Ever heard that is. LOL. And believe me I've tried to play it.
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
I hate to say this, but Television could be the most underachieving band in the history of rock and roll. All that talent, the immortal debut, and that's pretty much it.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 27 April 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
xxp: i've always wished for a side-long version of The Dream's Dream
― nerve_pylon, Saturday, 27 April 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
"yeah it's great, total trance music. i have one version that's close to 20 minutes."
Ysi?
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
hate to say this, but Television could be the most underachieving band in the history of rock and roll. All that talent, the immortal debut, and that's pretty much it.
I'm a stan for the '92 album.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
Side 2 of Adventure is where I'm at.
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
that ork loft youtube is one of my most watched/listened to things of the past month, i think i saw it on tyler's blog
― flopson, Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f7baf4507ec5c13242a6354ed6219307/tumblr_moc9es222E1qzy30io1_500.png
― tylerw, Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
also i did look for that 20 minute version of "persia" and .... I must have imagined it? Maybe it just felt like 20 minutes.
― tylerw, Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
Ha, those Whisky photos are great. Peter Gabriel looks like he's 12.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/nyctaper/wilco-marquee-moon-televisionpretty much note perfect -- if anyone can out-verlaine verlaine, it's nels cline.
― tylerw, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
Tweedy is no Television-guitar slouch himself!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
hello richard, this is adam. i read that you gave jeff tweedy a guitar lesson and was wondering about some of the things you talked about, seeing as how i love both his and your playing. hopefully you can shed some light on this. i plan on checking out some of the lessons on your site and appreciate them very much!thanks, adam Hello Adam,Thank you for writing, and for your interest in Jeff Tweedy and myself. Unfortunately, private lessons are just that -- private. For that reason, I cannot answer your questions with respect to what might have taken place between us, but we are and have been friends for a rather longtime -- Wilco opened a number of shows for Matthew Sweet many years ago when I was on tour with Matthew. We all became warm friends then and remain so, even though Jeff lives in Chicago and I live in New York. His wife called me a couple of years ago because she wanted to get him a guitar lesson from me for his birthday. So I flew to Chicago and we spend the day together. And I just saw him a month or so ago in Brazil when we both played at the Tim Festival in Rio de Janeiro. Best regards,Richard Lloyd
thanks, adam
Hello Adam,Thank you for writing, and for your interest in Jeff Tweedy and myself. Unfortunately, private lessons are just that -- private. For that reason, I cannot answer your questions with respect to what might have taken place between us, but we are and have been friends for a rather longtime -- Wilco opened a number of shows for Matthew Sweet many years ago when I was on tour with Matthew. We all became warm friends then and remain so, even though Jeff lives in Chicago and I live in New York. His wife called me a couple of years ago because she wanted to get him a guitar lesson from me for his birthday. So I flew to Chicago and we spend the day together. And I just saw him a month or so ago in Brazil when we both played at the Tim Festival in Rio de Janeiro.
Best regards,Richard Lloyd
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/996165_10151512923682690_646880720_n.jpg
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link
tyler where was this?!
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link
you should post that stuff to tumblr or facebook so it's easier for me to repost it and get all kinds of cool points.
― dan selzer, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link
haha, it's on richard's facebook page - he says "This has been one of the posters I have used in the past. Still valid, I teach Guitar and Music theory without recourse to music notation clefs or any reading, which does not suit Guitarists. My student learn to view the Guitar from a new perspective that can completely change the way you look at music itself. PM if interested, --Richard Lloyd."https://www.facebook.com/richard.lloyd1
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link
tbh i'm sort of interested! i wonder what his rates are.
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
the text reminds me of those Dr. Bronner's soap labels.
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 28 June 2013 04:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah! i was thinking it seemed kinda turn of the 20th century. i am fascinated by this sort of thing -- i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link
I thought about that once years ago. It was intimidating though. I actually asked Bob Bannister if he'd be interesting in giving lessons but he passed.
― dan selzer, Friday, 28 June 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link
i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.
His name's not Robbie Basho is it?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 28 June 2013 09:11 (ten years ago) link
ha, i actually asked him about basho and he said "who?"
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
Man, would actually be interested in hearing Richard lay this all out. Where does he teach?
― grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
he's in nyc afaik, i think he's said he does skype lessons though.
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
Think skype lesson would be a little too crazy for me, but will keep that NYC thought in mind when I get up there. I just bet that it is pretty fun and wild hearing him talk about what he does and getting to ask him questions.
― grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNmEq-cP9Oo
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSifKZ80H4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjWFqz1Sjps
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
Hah, thanks man. A window into the experience.
― grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
My buddy Alex took lessons with him for a couple of years here (NYC). I think he was p affordable.
He was living in mpls-stpl last I heard though?
― Thelema & Louise (Jon Lewis), Friday, 28 June 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
I think I watched those videos before but all I remember from them is Richard playing while being like "1 2 5 6 4 1 5 3 5 2 1 4 4 4 5 6 3 5 2 1 6" for about ten minutes.
― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 28 June 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
That's about what I remember
― Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 June 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
a friend took a lesson or two from him. apparently he's very touchy about tv questions or requests to learn tv songs.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 29 June 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah i can see how that would be boring for him -- obviously he's deeply into the theory of the guitar... not how you play "see no evil" but how you come up with the riff to "see no evil" yourself.
― tylerw, Saturday, 29 June 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
... or using the guitar to see BEYOND evil
― nerve_pylon, Saturday, 29 June 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
He was advertising for new students pretty recently on Facebook too, not sure if he still is.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 29 June 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link