Dub / Reggae: An Idiot's Guide

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Then there's a treat in store for you, I hope.

Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

outic pick up termination dub you will love it

http://www.allmusic.com/album/termination-dub-mw0000180942
http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/album_detail.php?id=bafcd015

marcos, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

veal book is really great btw, it is definitely an academic text and the writing can be pretty dry but it goes into incredible depth

marcos, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

xp Yes, and the Brown-produced Sylford Walker LP "Lamb's Bread" (think Blood and Fire did an expanded version of that also). I never owned the trio of Greensleeves LPs I mention above, but my brother owned two of them and I always wanted them, thought they were great.

Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

sounds promising! d/ling now

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

wow shit how had I not heard of this before

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 January 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link

Blood & Fire features the less inspiring Welton Irie deejay version of the same riddims. Termination Dub is amazing.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 January 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link

Blood & Fire version of Lamb's Bread that is.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 January 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link

Yeah. The Greensleeves version is the thing, I think - I have both and it's the LP that makes it out of the pile most often.

Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLkRK7jQmkc

a recent favorite

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 5 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

finished the Veal book (well, the parts of it I was interested in anyway - I don't need to read academic essays on how dub has impacted IDM or whatever). Something that really struck me that I hadn't thought about before was how Jamaica's musical culture totally skipped the whole sheet music/publishing/copyright establishment era of music, and without that there was never any kind of environment for questions of authorship to be raised or resolved. Going straight from an oral culture to a recording culture meant that they approached recording in a completely different way than the Americans or the British did.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 March 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link

book did make me want to hear that Lee Perry-produced George Faith album, is that actually as good as he says it is?

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 March 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link

It's a good record, but I think it's probably one of my least favorite Black Ark full length. Of course considering the competition that's still pretty high praise.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 March 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hhYw_OothY

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

xp that George Faith is a special album, the Hip-O-Select edition totally worthy. It's strange though to see these kinds of questions anymore because https://open.spotify.com/album/5FQ0VOWxjl3Dsgz1O3jP2I

I'm afraid to read that Veal dub book because it might be very expensive. I've found most OOP stuff is available on shitty MP3s ripped from vinyl, and I get tempted to pay $$ for CDs.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 18 June 2016 12:34 (seven years ago) link

I dont do spotify

Οὖτις, Saturday, 18 June 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link

Okay then. Well it's out there.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 20 June 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

These are almost all top-notch, thanks:

Here are a few good'uns:

The Viceroys - Can't Stop Us Now
Black Uhuru - Plastic Smile
The Gladiators - Mix Up
Burning Spear - African Teacher
Ini Kamoze - World A Music
Steel Pulse - Handsworth Revolution

― mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:13 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wasn't so impressed with the Black Uhuru, they can be kind of hit and miss for me. But checking that out did lead me to Puff She Puff which is quality.

Been hanging out with some folks from other countries and it's funny that we all like reggae but our reference points are so disparate. Morgan Heritage? Never really heard of him but it ain't bad. I could also use some dancehall recommendations but I'm not sure if this is the place for that.

viborg, Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link

Just heard him for the first time today I think! I listen to the satellite radio reggae station and it plays a lot of stuff, especially more contemporary stuff, that I have never heard or heard of. Admittedly, some of it is relatively hard to identify as reggae, in that a lot of pop music borrows from reggae anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

hanging out with some folks from other countries and it's funny that we all like reggae

this has always been really interesting to me - how traveling anywhere in the world, reggae is a common musical currency, way more so than, say, rock or house or whatever.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

I found Veal's dub book much less dry than his book on Fela. I'm enjoying it.

"Basically what slow it down is that … a man like for a more relaxed stage of movement. The foot movement and the jigglin,’ it nice but it tired you out … you want to feel good and you and your queen just a move steady—you no want a whole heap of foot movement like you get on the dance floor and just create a mash. You just go there and lock and position yourself and rub-a-dub and sip your beer or your spliff or whatever. The whole mood of it—you just cool, you just mellow."

― Quote from reggae producer Clive Chin, who attributed the evolution from ska to rocksteady to the hot summer of 1966. It was simply too hot to dance to ska, so the musicians slowed it down! "Dub: Soundscapes and Shattered Songs in Jamaican Reggae"

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 24 June 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

i've listened to shakey's blood gonna run mixtape far more than any other album this year. it's so great. i've even come to love some of the toasters, and that's not normally my thing at all. the big-youth tracks crackle with revolutionary energy. i wish shakey would put together a vol. 2, if there's enough tracks to make it work.

Is there any chance anyone could put up these mixes again? The Dropbox links above don't work any more :-(

toby, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah I think I moved those awhile ago, will re-post if I can find them but I'm not sure

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

found 'em

Vol 1: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wlku2kpjjifbs7a/AACBeaEm8pyJhMVk4BJY2rM-a?dl=0
Vol 2: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/517kscvshytylke/AAAs2F_P5WUYzxgYQiyFHjl7a?dl=0

I could probably do a volume 3 if people are interested

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

Thanks! V much looking forward to these. Judging from the reaction upthread I'm sure a third volume would be popular...

toby, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

Message to the Ungodly: Dreader Than Dread Dub Sounds Vol 3

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

Tracklisting:

1. Dreada Dread - Jacob Miller (Tenement Yard)
2. Simpleton Badness - Tappa Zukie (Man ah Warrior)
3. Message to the Ungodly - Niney the Observer (Sing It Wicked Style)
4. Valley of Joeasephat - Smith and the Prophets (Yabby You: Deeper Roots)
5. Blackman Land - Prince Far I (Message from the King)
6. None of Jah Jah Children No Cry - Ras Michael & the Sons of Negus (Rastafari)
7. Holy Mount Zion - Wayne Jarrett (Showcase Vol. 1)
8. Free Black People - Burning Spear (Spear Burning 1975-1979)
9. The Great Psalms - U-Roy (Dread in a Babylon)
10. Sufferation - Tyrone Taylor (Sufferation: The Deeper Roots of Niney the Observer)
11. Revolution (Total Destruction) - The Heptones (Party Time Deluxe Edition)
12. Chant Down Babylon - Sylford Walker (Lamb's Bread)
13. Africa Must Be Free by 1983 - Hugh Mundell (Africa Must Be Free by 1983)
14. Lion Dub - Linval Thompson (Negrea Love Dub)
15. Open the Gate - Dennis Brown (So Long Rastafari)
16. Only Jah - Earl Zero (Only Jah Can Ease the Pressure)
17. I'm Gonna Hold On - Sugar Minott (Black Roots)
18. Oil in a Babylon - General Echo (Teacher Fi Di Class 1979-1980)
19. Robin Hood - Barrington Levy (Robin Hood)
20. Don't Touch I Dread - Barrington Spence (Yabby You: Deeper Roots)
21. Rastaman Dub - Horsemouth Wallace (Original Armageddon Dub)
22. On That Day - Philip Fullwood (Spear Burning 1975-1979)
23. Judgment On the Land - Tappa Zukie (The Man From Bozrah)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

sweet, thanks again outic

marcos, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

I'm a huge fan of these mixes

marcos, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

thx - my pleasure!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

awesome! thx for the links

moullet, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

full disclosure this mix is heavier on the roots and less so on the dub side, I wasn't too strict about style, was going more for consistent tone and content etc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

Love these mixes too. Thanks for sharing. Don't think I had Vol.3.

A few years back I made a little fade in/fade out mix of some dub/roots tunes. I may have posted it before but since folks are digging this vibe I thought I would toss it out again.

http://biznotic.com/music/badcompany.mp3

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 July 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link

Thanks Οὖτις and brotherlovesdub -- these mixes are great!

city worker, Thursday, 14 July 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

i have a mix from awhile back and accompanying dub version
mix
mix dub

am0n, Thursday, 14 July 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

huh did not know that Junior Ross & the Spears track/album thx amon!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

its from this comp

am0n, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

Both albums on that comp are amazing.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Add mine to the voices eagerly anticipating checking these mixes out. Thanks to both of you for those.

In the meantime just wanted to say I was really touched by Beres Hammond's Rockaway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj-E-YnyLK4

Maybe kind of corny but I feel like that message really resonates right now.

viborg, Sunday, 24 July 2016 02:14 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

my first reggae 45 purchase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW3mCOO83g4

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

a good one!

marcos, Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

love most of the jah stitch stuff ive heard

marcos, Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

I only have that single and Dread Inna Jamdown but yeah he seems p reliably great

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

meant to post this last week, i heard this eek a mouse tune during a reggae program on one of my local college radio stations, i was impressed esp not being very familiar w/ eek a mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dmxg3nEQIs

marcos, Thursday, 25 August 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

produced by linval thompson, roots radics are backing band

marcos, Thursday, 25 August 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

dude is a legend obviously but ... tbh that goofy name has always put me off

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 August 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

ha me too, then i heard this and in search of that starker, sparser post-roots early dancehall sound i started to get really intrigued

marcos, Thursday, 25 August 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

Wa Do Dem is a classic, especially of that particular sound. check out "Ganja Smuggling"

rob, Thursday, 25 August 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRb7mprbj54

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 January 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link

good footage! what's the year?

marcos, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link


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