Dub / Reggae: An Idiot's Guide

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I need help.

The Sly & Robbie mix of "Fu-Gee-La" is amazing. Lee Perry gets ridiculous amounts of praise heaped on his immaculately stone shoulders. Yet, the only Jamaican music I know well is (duh) Bob Marley, and I had enough of that to last me through two collegiate tours of duty AND another high-school go around. So, where should I go? What should I do?

And is it fair to smack reggae & dub together like I did in the Subject Line? Or are they two tastes that just happened to taste great together?

Like I said, I need help.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

buy the following:

lee perry - arkology

the congos - heart of the congos

augustus pablo - king tubby meets rockers uptown

king tubby - dub gone crazy, foundation of dub

big youth - natty universal dread

junior murvin - police and theives

jimmy cliff - the harder they come

bunny wailer - black heart man

burning spear - marcus garvey/garvey's ghost

v/a - tougher than tough: the story of jamaican music

v/a - the 100% (200%, etc.) dynamite series

dub is a process. reggae is a music. (dub reggae = process music?) at least that's my take.

jess, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd add some Linton Kwesi Johnson -- Dread Beat an' Blood, LKJ in Dub or the Independant Intavenshan anthology. Also some of the cheapo Trojan box sets. Um... drawing blank...

Andy, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: Keith Hudson - Pick A Dub. Awesome lp.

RW, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

But for a starting point (without spending hundreds of dollars on the above, all of which are good), you really can't go too far wrong with _Tougher Than Tough_, a kick-ass 4-CD survey that goes from proto-ska all the way up to dancehall and will at least give you some idea of what artists/styles/periods you'll want to explore more.

Beyond that, a personal semi-obscuro favorite of mine is Junior Byles' retrospective _Curlylocks_, on Heartbeat.

Douglas Wolk, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

SEARCH along w/Jess's picks
Culture, Two Sevens Clash--my favorite reggae album proper, one of the best albums of all time, period; International Herb is also spectacular
Profile did a series of four Dancehall Stylee: Best of Reggae Dancehall comps that you can generally find used as a box set; the killers there are the first and fourth
Lee Perry, The Upsetter Collection, Some of the Best, Open the Gate--killer comps, all of which trash Arkology in form and concept and as music
Linton Kwesi Johnson, Indapendant Intavenshan and Tings an' Times--forward over the dub tracks, which really are distracting, and the former is his first three albums; the latter is from '91 and is endlessly playable
Buju Banton, 'Til Shiloh
Dub Chill Out--naff title but mighty good nevertheless; track 11, King Tubby's "Dark Destroyer Dub," is a moment of Zen perfection scored by guitar, bass, drums, organ
The Rough Guide to the Music of Jamaica and The Rough Guide to Reggae--nowhere near as essential as the Tougher Than Tough box, but pretty good overviews nevertheless, especially if you avoid the last couple tracks on each
Intensified! and More Intensified!--definitive mid-60s ska comps
Toots & the Maytals, Time Tough: The Anthology--Jamaica's greatest-ever singer on two solid CDs
The Power of the Trinity--superb comp of Jamaican harmony-trio groups
Augustus Pablo, Original Rockers--the wildest dub album ever; many of the same basic tracks as on King Tubby's Meets Rockers Uptown (my favorite Jamaican album of all time), but given even more disorienting treatments

And finally: a few months back I put together tracklists for Even Tougher Than Tough: Jamaican Classics 1962-95, my own self-styled sequel to the Island box mentioned above. (Tracklists are available here.) If anyone's got suggestions for improvement, let's have 'em.

M. Matos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

jess's list is all essential, dead-on correct. From that list, I'd start with The Harder They Come soundtrack or Tougher Than Tough if you can afford it. For some earlier rocksteady stuff, pick up a "Best of Desmond Dekker" or one of the Trojan or Tresure Isle comps.

fritz, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know about dub being just a process anymore. It has gone beyond being a verb. Sure, King Tubby's dubs were versions of original songs and "dubbing it up" could be words used to describe his process--the process of remixing, dropping out vocals, adding the trademark echoy delay, but with stuff like Twilight Circus, I'd say that "dub" becomes a type of music.

However, this being said, I think that you could say that everyone who likes dub likes reggae, and everyone who likes reggae would probably like dub, if they knew what it was.

Want some good stuff?

I agree with everything that has been said, but I'd also recommend:

If Deejay was your trade - Various (Blood and Fire) Mad Professor vs. Massive Attack - No Protection Horace Andy - In the Light and In the Light Dub Prince Alla - Only Love Can Conquer Sizzla - Reggae Max

Some of my favourites, not not exactly a comprehensive selection.

Pick up the Rough Guide 100 Essential Reggae CDS. It makes for great reading and is a lovely conversation starter.

cybele, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

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Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Pressure Sounds comps are great too. I'd reccommend "Riding The Roots Chariot" and "Sounds and Pressure: Vol 1 to start.

fritz, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever happened to Dubstar?

dave q, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Also search: King Tubby's collaborations with Harry Mudie. Great Tubby dub sound meets Mudie's funked out breaks. Check it: "King Tubby meets Harry Mudie's in dub Conference vol 1-3".

turner, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard a very nice set of dancehall on the in-flight system coming back from Jamaica a few years ago, surprisingly enough, and wanted to buy some good samplers. What would people recommend in this area?

nickn, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always wondered where Dubstar got the name...I'm mean, I like them and all, but Dubstar??

cybele, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I do have the Rhino dancehall comp, and it has good moments but didn't really grab me the way the in-flight set did.

nickn, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread has been very strong so far on the late seventies (and bits later), though I'm surprised no-one's mentioned "Best Dressed Chicken In Town" yet.

There's lots of great earlier reggae too: I'm particularly fond of Clancy Eccles's productions, Amalgamated-era Joe Gibbs, a lot of Bunny Lee stuff and Winston 'Niney' Holness, probably the heaviest of the early reggae fellows.

A step back a little further to rocksteady can't do any harm, either: the golden age of Treasure Isle.

The other thing I think should be mentioned in this thread is Studio 1. The greatest body of work in Jamaican music bar none. You can never go wrong with the series of "Best of Studio 1" compilations which Heartbeat put out which span early reggae to roots stuff. LPs? I's start with "Bob Andy's Songbook", Cedric 'IM' Brooks's "Flash Forward", "The Wailing Souls" and "Bobby Bobylon" by Freddie Macgregor. But there's loads more to be found.

My other *real* thing at the moment is 70s Gregory Isaacs. More Gregory. Gregory, Horace Andy and Junior Byles are three of my top 10 voices ever.

Tim, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone want any reggae mixtapes? primarily RockSteady, Reggae, Roots, and Dub, but also some Ska and early 80s Dancehall. i have a lot of vinyl only stuff, e.g. loads of 7" represses, which doesn't often turn up on the CD comps.

'Reggae' as a specific style refers to stuff around 68-72 i guess, but is more commonly used to refer to all JA music

Books:
Lloyd Bradley - Bass Culture
Norman K Stoltzkoff (sp?) - Wake the Town and Tell the People [on dancehall]
David Katz - People Funny Boy [on Lee Scratch Perry]
Guy Kennaway - One People [fiction]

other good stuff/people:
Max Romeo - Revelation Time LP (reissued with bonus tracks as 'Open the Iron Gate')
Prince Far I
Gregory Isaacs - Night Nurse LP (essential!)
Sizzla - Bobo Ashanti

my brane is dead though at the moment - will think of more later

m jemmeson, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah! Forgot to add Prince Far-I... "Under Heavy Manners" was the first reggae LP I ever truly loved.

The first version I had of that LP (which was a taped version of a Jamaican pressing on Joe Gibbs with the primarily yellow sleeve and a colour version of the photo) had a little reprise / dub of the last track on the second side. Just about 45 seconds of wild dubbing on "Under Heavy Manners". I've heard vinyl and CD reissues on Gibbs and never found another version with that little coda, and it upsets me a little. Anyone have any versions which do have the little end bit? (BTW, it's not the same as the various dub versions I have of the rhythm).

mj, do you have "Prophecy Reveal" by Bo Jangles? I know it was re- pressed a while back but I've never found it. Is it on the "Money In My Pocket" rhythm?

Tim, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

almost forgot: VP put out two vols. of Dancehall 101 last year; both are superb

M. Matos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Just because someone mentioned books...

I work for a publishing company and we will be reissuing Beth Lesser's "King Jammy" - it is the definitive book on 80s dancehall. Beth is also a photographer--her work has appeared in the Rough Guide, among other publications.

Just for interest sake, is anyone on this thread (or any dub/reggae fans) intrigued?

cybele, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

There are a few dancehall recommendations (most of which I still haven't followed up unfortunately) on this thread.

Ian, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

count me in as intrigued - anything we can see on the web yet?

fritz, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Film recommendations: The Harder They Come, Rockers, Heartland Reggae, Countryman & Dancehall Queen.

fritz, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Prince Far I! Any of the 'Cry Tuff Dub Encounter' albs are wicked. Plus U Roy's 'Dread In A Babylon' is full of great songs and has the dubbingest front cover photo of all time!

Andrew L, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

A few more roots classics: The Wailing Souls 'Wild Suspense', The Abyssinians 'Satta Massa Gana', Hugh Mundell 'Africa Must Be Free By 1983' + Dub version, The Gladiators 'TrenchTown Mix Up', Mighty Diamonds 'Go Seek Your Rights'. Also some Dennis Brown is essential - the recent Trojan anthology is a good place to start.

Bim Sherman's 'Miracle', while not exactly Reggae, is still utterly wonderful.

Johnathan, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Lee Scratch Perry--Blackboard Jungle Dub

The first dub album? I forget, but one of them. One of the craziest too. Mad loping grooves, everything and the kitchen sink samples before there were samples.

Lee Scratch Perry--Super Ape

Primo mid-70s Scratch. Smooth, rootsical, deep, hypnotic...

Ben Williams, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

It's inconceivable to imagine someone hearing Prince Far I's "Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Chapter 3" and not absolutely freaking out over dub, hard.

Andy, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Blood& Fire Sampler series is also a very good starting point for the novice. The second one is particularly good. A word of warning however: a glut of sub standard toss has ben reissued in the last few years and the reggae shelves in Tower records are so stuffed now that it's become difficult to differentiate between the good and crap. Any B&F stuff with Steve Barrow sleevenotes is usually a safe bet. Those mini Trojan box sets will also get you off the blocks into the right direction.

David Gunnip, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Add Scientist 'Meets Space Invaders'. Forget Heart of the Congo's, overrated.

Omar, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

My favourite Scientist LP is "Dub Landing", really very fine. Impossible to find, of course (in fact, even my copied copy is impossible to find since it's on a long term lend to a sometime contributor here). Why doesn't someone reissue that, eh?

Tim, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Omar is sooo wrong over Heart of the Congos... mind you, unless you like shrill falsetto vocals it might not be a wise choice.

m jemmeson, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Are there any labels to avoid - I'd heard the reggae CD market was flooded with shoddy product.

Dr. C, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm - JA vinyl is notoriously poor quality, e.g. reground stuff, with badly photocopied sleeves. if you're buying 7"s try and listen to them first, because the mastering can be dreadful besides all the pops etc

there's also loads of dodgy Lee Perry and King Tubby stuff - i.e. CDs put out claiming to be produced by them, or, when they're not lying, they're doing it illegally, and not paying the copyright owner. if you stick to Blood and Fire, Pressure Sounds, On-U, Trojan etc at first you should avoid the real stinkers, although all these labels have been guilty of barrel-scraping with certain releases.

m jemmeson, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

In answer to your original question, can we put reggae and dub together, sure we can, they are utterly, inextricably linked and it's often hard to draw a line between them. If you want to learn more about the origins of reggae and dub, read Bass Culture by Lloyd Bradley. If I were to pick one album to set you on your way I'd the Studio One Rockers compil on SOULJAZZ. It's got a bit of everything and doesn't contain a weak track.

Daniel, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Addendum: Lee Perry is playing in New Haven this evening (with the Mad Professor). Should I go?

David Raposa, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmmm... Mad Professor is ok live, Lee Perry variable - he can be absolutely terrible. Reggae and dub aren't really 'live' musics, they're better on record or via DJ, IMO.

m jemmeson, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

That is the push I needed to save myself $25. Much obliged.

David Raposa, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

spend the money on reggae records - you won't regret it. live concerts are a nice way to see your heroes, but for a music which is all about skilful production and beautiful voices, live music venues don't really cut it. i think selective CD purchasing is more likely to turn someone on to reggae than a concert

m jemmeson, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Then again, sometimes Mad Professor can be killer.

cybele, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope. Mind made up. There's also the risk that my brand new company car could have an illicit rendevous with a cement brick. I like M's idea better - save the money, buy some discs, and acquaint myself with the music that way. I wouldn't mind going, but for TWENTY FIVE bucks?

David Raposa, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

we've talked about this before, david i'm sure. NO show is worth $25 bucks. not even miles davis' corpse in a daishiki.

jess, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Bullshit. I saw Lee Perry a few years ago with Mad Professor. He played for four hours, smoking giant spliffs that would have felled a lesser man in seconds the whole time. You have to see him just to see him prance around. (Great nude photo in Vanity Fair this month).

Ben Williams, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, dub IS a live music. You can't get the true physical impact of the music without hearing it booming out of enormous bass bins. Just go and hear a really kickass sound system and be transported to another dimension. I don't know if Abu Shanti still plays in London, but he's great.

Ben Williams, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to change the subject, but I think paying $32 to see Mission of Burma is pretty fair. Sort of. Maybe. Well, if they dedicate the set to me. And make "Einstein's Day" into "Raposa's Day". And change their name to Dave Is All Good. Yeah, then it'd be worth it.

But never mind me and my minor griping. Have I thanked you all for your recommendations yet? I haven't gone out and bought anything, mind you, but when I do, you'll be the 10th or 11th to know.

David Raposa, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

weed smokers in tha hay-ouse!!!! :)

fuckin contrary: Towers of Dub is better than Yabby U

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

To whoever said that dub needs to be experienced on a giant sound system: word.

You just can't get it loud enough at home. It's gotta be so heavy that you can feel the bass from your fingers through to your toes. I'd pay $25 for that--then again, I'm Canadian. Don't know whether I'd pay $25 US.

cybele, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Live Dub soundsystems are the best way to hear dub, unless you've got a 200k rig in your front room, seeing Jah shaka live the physicality of the bass is sickening, especially mixed with some weed, perfect!

jk, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Lee Perry recently and it was dross. Having said that, dub can work live. Dennis Bovell and the Dub Band, for example, with DB making special effects with his voice. Staggering.

Daniel, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

People with serious knowledge have joined since the last time we covered this territory. I'm sure I'll be returning to this thread before my next trip to the record store. Nice work.

Mark, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i was talking about live reggae concerts, i.e. with a band, singers etc, which *usually* wouldn't be a great introduction to reggae.

dub sound-systems play a variety of *records*, and are a safer bet as an introduction (as well as getting the impact of the bass. Jah Shaka is very good, another big UK name is Aba Shanti. most JA sound systems will play dancehall.

m jemmeson, Friday, 2 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't sure which thread to revive! Anyway...

Warding off the end of summer listening to a) lots of Blood and Fire (Horace Andy In The Light/In the Light Dub, Darker than Blue, Glen Brown, Impact All Stars) and, most recently, the Noel Ellis album, which is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxXRQgCoz9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptW6foThQrw&start_radio=1&list=RDptW6foThQrw

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 August 2018 09:50 (one year ago) link

Last embed: Noel Ellis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbjizpAR6QM

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 August 2018 09:50 (one year ago) link

Noel Ellis is dope, that one's new to me!

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:42 (one year ago) link

yea that noel ellis tune really is. he had that reissue release on light in the attic a while back, maybe 10 or 12 years ago? it's all good but that one is probably the best on it. iirc he was a toronto dude?

marcos, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:54 (one year ago) link

Alton Ellis' son? Was previously unaware of him.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:01 (one year ago) link

Yes. Really good LP, a highpoint of Canadian reggae!

I've been listening obsessively to side 2 of "Bobby Bobylon" as usual.

Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:05 (one year ago) link

xp yea his son!

marcos, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:16 (one year ago) link

Bobby Bobylon is so good! Maybe it just fell thru the cracks for me personally, but I wasn't even aware of it until like after 10+ yrs of heavy digging into reggae. It should get more mentions as one of the best.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:16 (one year ago) link

wait which Noel Ellis album are we talking about?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

is there more than one?

https://www.discogs.com/Noel-Ellis-Pre-Release/master/175484

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:19 (one year ago) link

yeah I couple others came up when I searched. But I just dl'd that one cause the others had more "modern" production.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:31 (one year ago) link

huh I don't have that McGregor album either, although I do have some "Showcase" LP of his from around the same time.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:32 (one year ago) link

I'm only aware of the one Noel Ellis album - recorded in 1983 but has a 70s roots thing, Agree that's probably the best track. Killer. Quite the line up on there, too: Jackie Mittoo, Willie Williams, Johnnie Osbourne.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

Bobby Bobylon is a stone classic! It's worth finding a reissue with the extended version of "Rastaman Camp" imo, one of my all-time favorite tunes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMwwTZ1QW0

rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:13 (one year ago) link

I don't need much convincing, love that era of Niney productions

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:16 (one year ago) link

this one's Studio One so no Niney, but it sounds amazing: about as deep roots they ever got

rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:24 (one year ago) link

ah. yeah well Coxsone Dodd, I guess he's okay too :)

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:27 (one year ago) link

xp Yeah I love the Niney cut on “Rastaman Camp” as well. Would not like to choose between that one and the Studio 1 version.

Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:28 (one year ago) link

oh is the extended version a Niney mix? my liner notes don't make that clear at all (my apologies, Οὖτις), but that makes sense

rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:31 (one year ago) link

What a song indeed, rob (rastaman camp), didn't know it.
Reggae has some fascinating periods of transition between its subgenres. One I love is the meeting of roots, dub and deejay, that has produced incredibly deep music, often in 12'' singles. Where the song just posted absolutely belongs. We're pretty far from an idiot's guide, but it's also the style the first poster was sort of asking for.
Some favorites I have in that vein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsE5ZhPmh74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBKG4ORSJWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8xzqekt6eY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-ALyrY1Zk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyP8bzhP6Y0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUBHkMQmzpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_kldLmm2mo
and someone mentioned fancy dub vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IvAQRu17YY

For an idiot: Rhythm & Sound Showcase and the Basic Replay compilation.

Nabozo, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

lol I only know two of those (the Ras Michael and Prince Far I tracks)

sometimes it's comforting to think that I will never hear all the amazing reggae from the 70s and 80s, that it isn't humanly possible

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

No there are two very different Freddie McGregor cost on "Rastaman Camp": the Studio1 cut off "Bobby Bobylon" and remixed into avery murky brilliance in the youtube above, and a militant horn-driven Niney produced cut a few years later (that version's on a decidedly not-awful-but-not-amazing Observers LP called "Mr McGregor fwiw).

Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

Cuts, not cost

Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss4TNbDZeQg

Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:52 (one year ago) link

ah thanks Tim. that's quite nice; the muted trumpet is a nice touch, don't think I've heard that much in reggae (maybe? cue 10 amazing tracks I've never heard lol)

that Ijahman Levi song is a trip and of course "Plant Up" is a modernist masterpiece. I'll have to come back to Nabozo's others! Οὖτις otm regarding the bottomless volume of this stuff

rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:00 (one year ago) link

bottomless volume from a poor country of 2 million people! (in 1975)
and it was pretty much like, what, 25 musicians and 10 producers

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

then the amount of truly great singers, sheeeesh

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:16 (one year ago) link

Most of that lot new to me! This mix of Rastaman Camp is magnificent.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:54 (one year ago) link

Christ, this Silvertones track is immense. The first half is almost proto-Jungle!

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 September 2018 09:22 (one year ago) link

I had found a lot of those tracks while searching for this Hitrun label, and following a few raters on RYM, most notably TheRevivalist.
A few more if you don't mind, in the vaguely defined deep roots / soulful vocals / spaced out prods.

Gregory Isaacs - Report to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkUY8jZFYNk

Broggs / Prince Far I - Higher Field Marshall / I and I the Chosen Ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWtrEJvqaQ

Dr Alimantado - Born for a Purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6pIONWxTbs

Rhythm & Sound - Mash Down Babylon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Wkjy3UCIs

Danny Henry - African Gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMg2taR8fLs

Love Joys - All I can say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nL_hx0Gezk

Ranking Dread - Shut me Mouth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zceiA35_seY

And yes, it's endless. If we could also talk of early digital dancehall... another forgotten space diamond mine.
Just one very famous one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSVWJjDfUCI

Nabozo, Saturday, 1 September 2018 10:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah Hitrun is always worth looking for - I have a copy of this CD comp (it’s an ahem “unofficial release” but the fellow who does them takes great pride in his remastering and does a good job):

https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Hit-Run-Singles-Collection-1978-79-Volume-1/release/7709902

Tim, Saturday, 1 September 2018 10:34 (one year ago) link

My favourite Chosen Brothers/Rhythm & Sound is this monster (also featuring Bullwackie's All Stars):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVHPDuGtFTo

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:18 (one year ago) link

i have the basic channel reissue of that record and i have literally never played that side of it

but i have played the other side too many times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ytax95DanA

the late great, Saturday, 1 September 2018 19:11 (one year ago) link

listening to joe higgs' "life of contradiction" right now and it's very good.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 September 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

https://imgur.com/a/OeYFlie

Was behind this work of genius the other morning. Caption needed. Current thinking 'under heavy spanners' or 'call Jah for joists and joints'.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 November 2018 18:31 (eleven months ago) link

Well, that's irritating.

https://imgur.com/a/OeYFlie

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 November 2018 18:35 (eleven months ago) link

Reminds me of a thread I’ve been meaning to start.

Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 November 2018 21:42 (eleven months ago) link

For the record, I was behind a van on the way to work that bore the magnificent name 'I and I Carpentry'.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 November 2018 23:04 (eleven months ago) link

If I and I were a carpenter

Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 November 2018 13:07 (eleven months ago) link

Should have capitalized the last word

Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 November 2018 13:19 (eleven months ago) link

eight months pass...

starting to think Prince Far I never made a bad record

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:01 (two months ago) link

I haven't heard a bad one, but they are fairly homogenous. I have 5 or so, but I really only listen to the Cry Tuff compilations and Voice of Thunder.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:24 (two months ago) link

Cry Tuff volumes are all topshelf, but sometimes I just wanna hear him read some bible psalms, you know?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 August 2019 19:51 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Just a quick revive to praise jah once more for the Silvertones 'Cheating and Lying' track upthread. Fire.

And I don't suppose this is new to anyone but was listening to Don Carlos on Friday night and this is just immense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8m2gMvpA8

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:32 (one week ago) link

so good

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:05 (one week ago) link

I'm feeling this atm

https://youtu.be/FM9AGbJgTSI

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:25 (one week ago) link

Pass me the lazer beam

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:57 (one week ago) link

Cornell Campbell on the same backing track as that Don (Mc?)Carlos track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67xXlDQTKU

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 22:30 (one week ago) link

Decent looking show on BBC4 tonight: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00095ky

A treasure trove of tapes from the golden age of reggae has been salvaged and provides the soundtrack to the compelling story of the family behind the legendary Randy's Studio 17.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:32 (one week ago) link

This "Sound of Macka Dub" (apparently the only album credited solely to Carleton and Family Man) is dope as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaxpkW5WHYg

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 October 2019 16:32 (two days ago) link


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