Aphex Twin's _Selected Ambient Works Volume II_ is ten years old

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And this more than Kurt Cobain being dead gives me a sense of the passage of a decade. In a far more positive way too.

I listened to the album for the first time in a long while the other day, and I realized how utterly fantastic it was all over again. Scrape away all the dull as ditchwater clot accrued to it over the years thanks to so many indifferent IDM releases and it's all the more lovely to appreciate, a glorious one-off from him in that nothing (much) was spiked with the humor or freneticism or any of that from elsewhere.

There was a taking sides thread involving this versus SAW 85-92, but let's just talk about SAW II instead here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

wow i feel old

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

mine is so old that their are holes appearing in the silver coating of the discs!

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

i listened to this religiously at night for so long that i don't know if i ever need to hear it again.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:49 (twenty years ago) link

I remember vague concerns on the actual IDM list itself at the time that the vinyl version was not what it could have been cracked up to be. I just bought the US CD release and played Disc 1 Track 3 first and goddamn if that wasn't and isn't still something genius.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:49 (twenty years ago) link

mine is so old that their are holes appearing in the silver coating of the discs!
-- mullygrubber

Mine too!!

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

that's a beautiful piece of music. richard james really is a genius, all things considered.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

I think the only times I've actually listened to this thing (without doing anything else) I have been on drugs.

Lil' Fancy Pants (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

He probably celebrated the anniversary (if he did) last month with cackling, eight million friends and lots of beer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

i do believe strongo has well and truly started in on that cider stash

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

oh i'm a going concern now

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

This is an insane coincidence -- I just burned both discs of these tonight for a friend who is driving cross-country (he likes driving to ambient electronic music.) I looked at the back cover and thought, "This was released ten years ago, same year Cobain killed himself." Then I see this thread.

For whatever reason, SAW II has never done much for me. I've always been puzzled by how underwhelming I've found it, considering how much music in this vein I listen to, and how much this record means to people whose taste overlaps with mine. I think SAW II sounds better scuffed up by majic markers and run through the ovalprocess.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:01 (twenty years ago) link

i think thats what mine sounds like now

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

btw i am listening to prince right now, fuck aphex twin

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

Is it a smoker's delight kind of record? Cos I haven't really listened to it since I stopped smoking several years ago.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

I bought this the day it came out, also went to sleep every night to it for ages. It makes me want to be a solitary night watchman in a giant empty electronics warehouse in some godforsaken London suburb. My copy is actually on double cassette (!) somewhere at my parents' house, but I got it off slsk about a month ago and have been listening to it a lot recently. I wonder if that Orb live thing would sound any good...?

I've been listening to Black Dog too!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago) link

Its not really a smokers delight, more like eno on land but with a little less melody and more space.

Beautiful but so ephemeral that it slips my notice most times when I am looking for something like this to listen to.

hector (hector), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

i listened to this religiously at night for so long that i don't know if i ever need to hear it again.
Oh fuck, nights drifting off to sleep for about two years of my life to thread, stat.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

He should play it live in its entirety, while millions stand still in response.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

When I hear this album, I always recall Aphex's comments in Select about the album feeling like standing alone in a power station on acid.
The "on acid" descriptor was well overplayed, but the power station motif -- the whirring, humming, and mechanical noises that drown out all other noises -- is something I always come back to.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:14 (twenty years ago) link

I never even heard it until November! But, yeah, it's really good. I like the use of microtonality.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago) link

Even though I don't really do pyschedelics anymore, I swear I can still hear very distant dixie big band-type jazz behind a lot of the tracks if I snuggle right up to the speaker and lay still for fve minutes or so.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

Greatest Album Ever!

By Aphex, I mean.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

I've been noticing things like this lately -- Janes Addiction launched almost 20 years ago! Kurt Cobain died for the 60s, if not in the 60s.

This album is so good I don't think 10 years matters much. Vol. 1 sounds dated, this one doesn't and probably won't.

My selected coincidence is yesterday being puzzled by this Allmusic synopsis -- now you take a look:

Despite James' appearance on the pop charts, his following album Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2 appeared to be a joke on the ambient-techno community. So minimal as to be barely conscious, the quadruple-album left most of the beats behind, with only tape loops of unsettling ambient noise remaining. The album mostly struck out with critics, but hit number 11 on the British charts and earned James a major-label American contract with Sire soon after.

I'd say joke on the pop chart community, home run with critics, and WTF to tape loops? This ain't Strafe F.R.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:52 (twenty years ago) link

My own take a few years back.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

What's more alarming to me is that Eno's Another Green World is almost 30 years old.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 05:36 (twenty years ago) link

I just bought the US CD release and played Disc 1 Track 3 first and goddamn if that wasn't and isn't still something genius

i can't overstate how much i love this piece. (as a side note cddb now calls it "rhubarb," which seems a bit odd...are these the unofficial titles people puzzled out from the pics in the liner notes?) it marks the only time i've ever used a repeat function on a cd player. i wanted to listen to it a few times and accidentally left it on for at least an hour or two late at night. it must be tapped into my personal resonant frequency or something.

it seems strange to me that this and nirvana were happening coincidentally, on virtually opposite sides of the world. i experienced them sequentially but they've coincidentally both drifted back into my life- i just added saw II to itunes finally, and it and nevermind keep cropping up on random play.

rgeary (rgeary), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 05:37 (twenty years ago) link

does one really need any ambient beyond another green world and saw II?

rgeary (rgeary), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 05:38 (twenty years ago) link

maybe music for airports.

rgeary (rgeary), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 05:38 (twenty years ago) link

disc 2, track 2 (us cd): the bits of distortion that creep into this carry more emotional weight than they have any right to.

rgeary (rgeary), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 05:42 (twenty years ago) link

i haven't heard this yet but i love SAW 85-92
i found it used once for $5.00 but as i picked it up some assface got mad cause he "put it on hold". so after a couple minutes of arguing i got fed up and threw the CD at him. is it better than 85-92?

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 05:51 (twenty years ago) link

It's better but completely different. It's very atmospheric, truly "ambient".

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 06:13 (twenty years ago) link

I Care wipes SAWII away.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 06:42 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know if my memory's playing with me, but I swear I was listening to SAW II when I heard that Cobain was dead.

I've managed to lose about 4 copies of the thing during the last 10 years, and I've always gone straight back out and replaced it. Much as I love Richard's later stuff, SAW II is a unique thing of wonder.

And where would BBC2 documentary Producers be without it?

noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:43 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't heard it for years; I'll have to dig out my original double cassette copy sometime today.

I remember listening to it a lot and being thoroughly terrified by a couple of tracks. I found it as scary as Rosemary's baby.

Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:45 (twenty years ago) link

Other albums that are ten years old...

Dummy
Second Coming
Vulvaland
Protection
Hex
D.I. Go Pop
Snivilisation
Ill Communication
Grace
Amber
Parklife
Music For The Gilted Generation
Crooked Rain Crooked Crooked Rain
Definitely Maybe
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Independancy
Weezer
Illmatic

1994 seems like a very ILM-friendly year.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

Artificial Intelligence II
Kate's favourite Primal Scream album

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago) link

heh, I bought SAW II on vinyl shortly after its release date and i'm pretty sure i've only played it the once. this doesn't mean i didn't like it, just that i've never once been in the mood to give it another listen. the album has sat there on successive shelves mocking me. has it really been ten years? good grief.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago) link

(mind you, the pressing wasn't great, sounded very crackly even on first play - so there's a bit of "don't want to damage the vinyl even more" going on in my head here as well)

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:02 (twenty years ago) link

"does one really need any ambient beyond another green world and saw II?"

yes.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:15 (twenty years ago) link

I don't have this but I've heard it and I like what I've heard. In contrast I have SAW 85-92 and it's dire - not dire so much as just boring, in-one-ear-out-the-other wallpaper music.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:22 (twenty years ago) link

but this is a great album. the first two tracks on disc 2 do it for me in a big way - but i'm going to agree with ned and say that disc 1 tr 3 is something special. quite an impressive range of moods - especially bearing in mind that there is very little movement or really much happening at all across the two discs. it's creepy and sad and mysterious - most of my favourite qualities in recorded music (not just ambient) are present. i remember marcello said he loved it and would write about it for his blog, did he get round to it? i would like to read, if so.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago) link

does one really need any ambient beyond another green world and saw II?

what a fubny questoin. does one need anny rock beynod white ligt white heat and in teh court of the crismon king?

:|, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:35 (twenty years ago) link

Kilian, you need to get hold of Aether by The Necks.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:38 (twenty years ago) link

Even though I don't really do pyschedelics anymore, I swear I can still hear very distant dixie big band-type jazz behind a lot of the tracks if I snuggle right up to the speaker and lay still for fve minutes or so.

That is the funniest thing I've read in a while. I want to try that some day.

Jay Kid (Jay K), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:50 (twenty years ago) link

and i think that i am going to put on the album right now, as i prepare my lunch.

Jay Kid (Jay K), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:51 (twenty years ago) link

i have never heard all of this :(

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

Chalk me up to a member of the "saw ii um so what" party. I couldn't sleep to it, couldn't concentrate on it, couldn't keep it on as background noise, and ended up selling it within a year.

We had a fine thread on recommended ambient records a while back. I'd add me some fine releases from the Improvised Music from Japan label and the Necks' Drive-By.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

it's very distinct. didn't actually listen to it at the time, but i see what it's gor. very minimalistic, not just in structure, bul also in texture. nice. supposedly, he got the inspiration for it from standing inside a transformer station somewhere in the midlands.

Jay Kid (Jay K), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 11:26 (twenty years ago) link

april 1994 was when 'supersonic' first came out as was on the chart show, marking the definitive 10 years of a degenerative obsession with music which has prevented me from getting anything nearly useful done. fuck me.

matthew james (matthew james), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 11:35 (twenty years ago) link

Time to play the long game!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 March 2024 21:39 (seven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ALBJbdy.png

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:52 (seven months ago) link

It's not April 5th yet!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 March 2024 23:02 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

so warp’s instagram has been posting some cryptic SAW II things and people are speculating that maybe it will be getting an anniversary reissue of some kind

brimstead, Monday, 17 June 2024 16:39 (three months ago) link

!

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 17 June 2024 17:12 (three months ago) link

Can we get a damn SAW III to follow it up too? Is that too much to ask for, Richard?!

octobeard, Monday, 17 June 2024 18:36 (three months ago) link

you were right

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:15 (three months ago) link

Expanded edition coming in October. 3 CDs, 4 LPs, a super fancy box version.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:22 (three months ago) link

dammit 2xCassette sold out! Great medium for this tbh

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:22 (three months ago) link

sadly i dont have £299 for an oak box

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:24 (three months ago) link

any indication of the regular vinyl getting wide release?

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:25 (three months ago) link

I'm confused, are there really only two bonus tracks?

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:57 (three months ago) link

you can preorder the regular 4xLP for $50, pretty good deal imo. I was on the fence about preordering since the Aphex vinyl that's in print is fairly available but SAW II has always been a pretty special/sought after thing so who knows. hopefully this means a drukqs reissue is in the works someday too

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 15:05 (three months ago) link

xp Looks like,yeah. And one of them is the 2017 digital bonus track. Plus #19 being available across formats finally (previously UK vinyl - and web digital - only). These would necessitate the extra CD but be a bit skimpy for an extra LP. Sides on the original are a bit long though so it looks to be rejigged, shown by the "tracklist" (several circles now have three images - before, every side had at least 4).

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:32 (three months ago) link

thanks, that was what I thought but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:40 (three months ago) link

pitchfork all "check out the track list below"

said track list:


01 #1
02 #2
03 #3
04 #4
05 #5
06 #6
07 #7
08 #8
...

koogs, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:54 (three months ago) link

(it gets more interesting later but...)

koogs, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:55 (three months ago) link

my original cd has the rot and the outer tracks won't play (luckily i took a copy before it got bad). i meant to buy another copy when it came out in that fancy case (super jewel it appears to be called) but never did... perhaps now is the time...

koogs, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:09 (three months ago) link

Minidisc copy, I hope.

Keith, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:08 (three months ago) link

Wow $300 for the boxset. The normal vinyl at $50 is a good offer. I still don’t know if I’d buy… used to listen to this one fairly frequently and I think only about 1/3 would be of any use to me nowadays.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 21:36 (three months ago) link

If it's only 3 tracks the bonus CD should be one of those 3" ones.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 21:55 (three months ago) link

I burned a 3CD-R that follows the vinyl track list awhile back…I will buy this on CD

brimstead, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 22:07 (three months ago) link

still have my cds, but if i didn't, lugging out a giant wooden box and then flipping all of those lps every 20mins or so seems like a uniquely awful way to experience this particular album

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 22:34 (three months ago) link

otm, this was made for long CDs

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 22:36 (three months ago) link

Check this:

https://www.oakfurnituresuperstore.co.uk/products/york-150cm-solid-oak-dining-table?gad_source=1

300 quid, and REAL SOLID OAK! I may get this to put my laptop on so as I can stream it.

Keith, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 22:38 (three months ago) link

I preordered it. I actually bought the repressing years ago, but heard some distortion and it was likely my turntable or stylus so I returned it (oops).

Now it goes for bloody ~$200 on discogs. And that version lacked Stone in Focus, which this will have (yay!)

octobeard, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 23:04 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uho04jJzxjs

Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 23:11 (three months ago) link

I did the pre order on CD, as I’d never owned this before!

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 12:36 (three months ago) link

No bonus tracks we haven’t heard before? Lame.

Can’t believe they still haven’t adopted the fan-made names as the official song titles after all these years. I still think the album is better listened to with the songs in alphabetical order from “Blue Calx” to “Z-Twig”.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 20 June 2024 00:02 (three months ago) link

What a great record.

ian, Thursday, 20 June 2024 00:14 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzuygQd3do

scott seward, Thursday, 20 June 2024 03:14 (three months ago) link

Thanks, I just matched this sample!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyCRiyMg2ik

mmmm, Thursday, 20 June 2024 07:59 (three months ago) link

“Blue Calx” is the ultimate

brimstead, Thursday, 20 June 2024 15:57 (three months ago) link

The CD of SAW II I bought in a charity shop years ago was bronzed. It has somehow persevered but now you can see actual rot on the outer edges. Time to buy it again I think.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 20 June 2024 19:19 (three months ago) link

Exactly what koogs said

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 20 June 2024 19:19 (three months ago) link

yeah, it didn't help that they were long CDs and the data went right to the edges

koogs, Thursday, 20 June 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link

I bought SAW II on CD back in 2004 and didn’t know stone in focus existed until last year, was a bit of a trip to discover one of the best songs by one of your favourite artists just hiding in a cupboard. It’s probably the closest I’ve come to realizing my recurring dream where I’m watching TV and a season 4/5 Simpsons episode I’ve never seen suddenly comes on.

ed.b, Friday, 21 June 2024 18:27 (three months ago) link

have you looked into the soundcloud dump?

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 21 June 2024 18:29 (three months ago) link

they should color the new release cds bronze just to fuck with people

(Saw 2 was one of the releases misprinted by Philips / Dupont in the UK. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc_bronzing )

master of the pan (abanana), Friday, 21 June 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link

tha1 (slo) is a bonus track right? that was part of the SoundCloud dump

brimstead, Friday, 21 June 2024 19:23 (three months ago) link

yep, th1, th1 (slo) and this one, which is still online : https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/th1-evnslower
(he has been adding to that dump every now and then ever since, btw, most recent track was 10 months ago)

StanM, Friday, 21 June 2024 19:32 (three months ago) link

Right th1, not tha1, my bad

brimstead, Friday, 21 June 2024 19:35 (three months ago) link

xp whoa, thanks

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 21 June 2024 19:42 (three months ago) link

nice, I am 1 hour 45 mins behind on these tracks, listening now

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 21 June 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link

i only just realized his soundcloud username is not just a random string of numbers

paul mccartney and wigs (diamonddave85), Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:30 (three months ago) link

ohhhhhhh

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:39 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Dispatched: 1 October 2024, 14:53 UTC

Aphex Twin
Selected Ambient Works Volume II (Expanded Edition)
CD (3×CD)

brimstead, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 17:47 (two weeks ago) link

I got that email earlier today too!

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 17:48 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Ii9Q5YMeM

worth clicking through for the top couple comments

default damager (lukas), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 18:11 (two weeks ago) link

Despite owning this on multiple formats over the years, I'm still waiting-by-the-mailbox eager to receive my copy of the 3xCD reissue. Few albums from my youth have the kind of enduring power over me that this one does. And I say that despite still preferring SAW 1!

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 18:29 (two weeks ago) link


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