"New Age Music", search and destroy.

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I can remember this big thing about new age music, hearing about it in the radio, even seeing it on tv (rick wakeman plonking boringly on a piano on breakfast time tv, the presenter intoning, "that was rick wakeman playing an example of 'new age music'") I suppose I remember this vague vibe of ecm meets california hippie w/a serge synthesiser and a flute music (nb I really dig mike stearns, richard burmer, kevin braheny & stuff like that) but watered down somewhat that seemed to emanate from the whole thing, I can remember the look of the albums, plain white sleeve, with nice athena-poster-ish photog in the middle, ripped off ecm and ic records, plus I can remember the label names, or one anyway - windham hill, though there were others, incl a brit label w/thee words "new age actually embossed on the rekkid sleeve. I'm damned if I can actually remember a single piece of music though. not one bit. Possibly I have heard some, but bafflingly, I'm not sure!! What happened? where did it all go?? Was there ever a worse name for a music genre, shooting oneself in the foot style? Conversely, was there ever an easier target for thee UNFUNNIEST act-based-on-music style comedian? Surely some of this stuff must have been good? I mean, phil jupituss probably hates it, so it shd rock, er in an unobtrusive sort of way. I suppose it was a kind of proto-chill out concept thing perhaps... I also suppose thee idea of music that sounds nice, & "beautiful", & nature-ish goes against the whole r&r kick ass canonical thing, like one can't imagine an act on w hill shooting smack into their cock and mythologising it, but that kind of makes me want to like it. Who owns new age rekkids and likes them? Which ones? Why?

THX

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

George Winston to thread. Kitaro to thread! MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER NOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Matt Groening came up with the ultimate New Age album title back in the late eighties when in a Life in Hell panel about Binky being a swami for hire it was mentioned that Swami Binkatanda had an album for sale called Spacey Tinkles

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well some Popol Vuh albums ended up being released on "new age" labels - I can see why. Also Deuter ended up as a self-confessed new age musician and his first two albums are great, esp. the more new age one, "Aum".

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm sure I knew people who were REALLY into the whole thing, to the point where their rekkid collection was just this mass of white sleeves w/tasteful pics, but it was years ago, so probably I'm imagining it. It was surely "lifestyle" music, but did anyone actually live that lifestyle? Apart from the bosses of new age record compaines.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

...a lot of ageing hippies with money to burn

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

In California it was all too apt.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like the first Tri Atma record and the first Shadowfax record.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Of course. Yes, I have "tantric songs", and er "hosianna mantra" as a twofer, on a label called CELESTIAL HARMONIES!! A pretty nice package, as it happens. See, I'd like to say, pah, popol vuh is N0T NEW AGE, but what woule be better (and a very very long shot I fear) would be if there were loads of acts producing popol vuh ish music on new age labels that I've never heard of!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

search: ash ra tempel - new age of earth

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

New Age has it's own style guide at AMG

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=F0NUAGE

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

search: Harold Budd

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I remember buying in a load of kitaro on cassette at the used rekkid store, as it happens (stop me if you've heard this one more than twice before haha) when we had the policy of playtesting all the used CDs and tapes. Man that was an excerise in torture. It all sounded like a really really bad version of "shine on you crazy diamond part one", really plodding and leaden, and the snare drum sounded like someone hitting a box of rice crispies w/a 12" ruler. really quite unbelievably BAD. Shortly after that we dumped the policy, and just refunded faulty discs/tapes. I mean, the possibility of getting burned once in a while was as nothing compared w/the possibility of suffering thru more kitaro!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

search:

Robert Bearns & Ron Dexter - The Golden Voyage Vol.2 - A Galactic Exploration Through Celestial Harmonics


except you will never find it, so let me just say that it's a pretty cool record.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, harold budd I like, and didn't he actually appear on one of those labels? New age of earth good as well, though "Blackouts" is better, I think.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Search: David Hykes & The Harmonic Choir - Hearing Solar Winds

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

check this out:

http://www.cyndustries.com/synapse/synapse.cfm?pc=43&folder=march1977&pic=17

Will "stonewall" jackson from "ether ship" (!), playing his serge synthesiser to the whales, from greenpeace's ship, in 1977!

Awesome.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've got some Eckankar and Baha'i records that would blow yer mind. Cults make the best new age muzak. (England Dan & John Ford Coley after they went Baha'i rock!)

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

S: Michael Hedges for god's sake.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I googled one of the titles you mentioned above, scott, and got this list:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos242.htm

See, most of this stuff, I've actually owned, or own (all the edgar froese, klaus schultze, t dream, vangelis, eno, a r temple/tempel, paul horn in the pyramid) but to me, it's all kind of previous to the whole new age thing.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Other threads of interest.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Steve Roach and Robert Rich both make some pretty good music and they are usually consigned to the new age ghetto.

earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, severe pity -- they've both released many excellent albums.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

where is the line between "new age" and similar euro-electronic stuff (later tangerine dream, jarre, etc) drawn?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

downloaded this recently (vintage: 1978 italy) and am finding it unusually stylish and quite engaging for this sort of thing...

http://italianprog.interfree.it/automat.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

probably anything post-70's and of the windham hill/winston ilk is what most people think of now when they think of new age music.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

but that doesn't mean that i can't have my own definition and listen to the good stuff.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not a big Hassell fan. I love Jade Warrior. I've got 5 or 6 of their records. I really like the early Vertigo stuff too. It's not everyone's cup of tea.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ned, I kiss you for bringing up Kitaro! : )

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what's worth listening to of winston's?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

it all kinda sounds the same to me. but i'm not an expert. don't know anything about liz story either.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

btw, thank you jeanne, i was beginning to feel self-conscious being the only girl posting on this thread.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Winston is interesting b/c he comes from the acoustic side of New Age, which at one time included people like John Fahey, Robbie Basho, and Leo Kotke. If I am remembering right guitarist William Ackerman started Windham Hill and at one time was quite tight with Fahey. Been a long time since I listened to George Winston -- not sure if any of it would interest me now! But back in the 80s I used to like Autumn.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Autumn was a huge seller for Windham Hill. He helped put them on the map.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Here is something I wrote on New Age a couple years ago.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think the popular new agey stuff now is all worldbeat-infused. those hybrid records of african/electronic/trancey things. My wife's father has all those cd's at his new age retreat in massachusetts. some of it is pretty psyched-out and droney and some of it is just kinda, i don't know, lame.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I bought a CD at a yard sale for $0.50 called Afrobeat Lounge. That title says it all.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

By some definition, it seems that I already have a bunch of "new age". Multiple x-post, b/c omg wtf I actually had a couple of customers to-day, but I got robert rich' album "bestiary" sent to me by the fellow who runs synthesis technology whose modular synthesiser I pwn. Rich has a similar synthesiser, though his has about 4 x more modules, and he is about 100000000 times better at using it. It is a very, very good album. Burmer, I only have on "western spaces" alongside steve roach and kevin braheny, but that's another really good piece, like nothing happens on it, but it's a kind of awe-inspiring wide-open space nothingness.

Those old Jade Warrior recs are so obscure, even among vertigo collectors, that it amazes me. They're really good, surely one of the few undiscovered little gems of their sort out there.

I tend to differentiate between synthesiser/electronic/space music (as was) of the sort I got into when I was first getting into music, when I'd buy anything w/a picture of a modular synth on the back cover, and a nebula or suchlike on the front, and yer actual "new age". I have NO IDEA why. What got me into asking the qn was I got stuck on hold to-day, and the hold music was tinkly piano music w/added (quite strange-sounding) synthesiser, and based on this suzanne ciani concert I saw at a dutch electronic music concert years ago, I found myself thinking snidey thoughts abt "new age music". Then I realised that I had absolutely no idea what I was on abt. ILE has not let me down, and I thank you all for the great responses!

Anyway, based on the definitions above, my candidate for "search" is kronos by michael stearns, which is a wonderful synthesiser music record.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Someone once wrote something like "Your parents like Windham Hill, you like Kranky," which I think is a bit glib but kind of amusing

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Chronos", not "Kronos", and on reflection, a better title is "Planetary Unfolding" anyway. Humour me plz, to-day has been teh sukc.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

search: vacca and moran, whose best work, like the best new age, is like sitting on a country porch listening to the rustling wind, only the wind has some harmony going on.

search: codona. the trio of collin walcott, don cherry and nana vasconcelos, whose albums were simultaneously claimed by new age fans, world music fans and jazz dudes, and were pretty good if memory serves.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ned, I kiss you for bringing up Kitaro! : )

*blush* Rah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the new age stuff that i dig that i never know any names/titles of is all the stuff i've ever heard on the radio on new age radio shows that is just basically super-mimimal ambient electronic modern classical geometric drug/head music with titles like "raindrops parts 1-10". that stuff always gives me those good kinda acid flashbacks that remind me of the stuff i would hear in my head as a kid when i would try to go to sleep after tripping all day. basically anyone making music with computers/moogs who decide what note to play next only after consulting the tides/moon charts. whale music is kinda nice too. and i heard this beautiful recording once of nothing but droning trombones taped in some underground catacombs and i forget the title and it's been bugging me for years.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"And now, Music From Some Guys in Space."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Kitaro - duddy
Tomita - yeah!!!!! (The star hustler theme is by tomita, that's all you need to know!)

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

although, like i said on a thread last week: the over-the-topness of some kitaro records is kind of a hoot. when he's got all the bells, gongs, synths, and pomp going at once.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what's the diff between ambient and new age (if any).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just read pitchfork media mark's article linked above, and it's fucking good.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

agreed.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

on a similar tip of breaking down boundaries between electronic instrumental scenes

Star's End - 25 Significant STAR'S END Albums
http://www.starsend.org/25albums.html

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, i just read it too. it's good. and it does a good job of describing that fine line between ambient/kraut/electro/windham. Julio, read that article linked above.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hah those "Environments" records have been popping up in conversations a lot these days. I really like the one that is recorded on a wooden sailboat/ship. Good stuff.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:45 (one year ago) Permalink

some of the first ones went platinum once they were picked up by Atlantic; completely pioneering. fantastic, obsessively detailed liner notes. they won't stay obscure for long.

the guy manning the library says there were tons of unreleased, even crazier concepts for albums; can't wait

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

ooh! that's good news

La Lechera, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

ok, another archive find today ..

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/2e/df/c7/2edfc732a87f4f131b56f6fd415c612b.jpg

ambient or new age ?

given that this is a rising high release, I guess its regarded as part of the ambient/house era.

not that it matters, as its bloody wonderful.

mark e, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink

however, with its rich synthetic sonics, tribal drums, and widescreen soundscapes,this steve roach/elmar Schulte release has to be part of the new age genre :

http://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/20/13/0617026201320_600.jpg

alternative cover that I have :

http://www.kompaktkiste.de/cd/_abc/_s/sr9341.jpg

bottom line : despite the excess of FAX material, I wish I had more of this kind of stuff.

mark e, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Holy smokes, this Jordan de la Sierra record is the greatest thing:

http://www.numerogroup.com/products/jordan-de-la-sierra-gymnosphere-song-of-the-rose

― Ottbot jr (NickB), Friday, January 2, 2015 12:45 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is AMAZING

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:54 (one year ago) Permalink

i love the first three tracks on that jordan de la sierra album but the last one makes me very uneasy and uncomfortable, i love extremes of repetition as much as the next guy hanging out in the new age music thread but it makes me feel like the universe has frozen.

(hm i need a better explanation than that, cuz now i want to hear more music that makes me feel like the universe has frozen.)

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 22:42 (one year ago) Permalink

aahhhh for me the last track is total bliss

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 22:44 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Hey, reviving this in light of Britt Brown's recent piece in The Wire about the Valley of the Sun label. I felt lame for having never heard of it, but I just read this whole thread, and no mention of these guys anywhere, so maybe I'm not alone! Interested in diving in, and wrote down some of the cassette titles Brown seems to recommend in the piece, but there really aren't many of these on Discogs or anything, and the ones that are are going for big bucks (relatively speaking). I'm not necessarily against spending $30 on a cassette, but it'd better be one of the good ones. Anyone know this stuff? What's good? What's lame? Brown seems to suggest that things go awry after Robert Slap takes over, but the descriptions of his work for the label sound like they could also be cool.

Wimmels, Saturday, 9 July 2016 21:25 (one year ago) Permalink

"journey to the edge of the universe" by upper astral is the only one with more than a few ratings on rym. no reviews, but i'm giving it a listen and if you're into super-ambient berlin school stuff it should be up your alley.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 July 2016 00:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Aerobic Exercise Music With Subliminal Suggestions
http://altered-states.net/music/new18.gif
Six long aerobic exercise compositions - 5 with driving beat, 1 for stretching or cool-down. Suggestions: Every day, your body becomes firmer. You will attain and maintain your ideal weight. You feel better when you exercise. You love to exercise. Your stretching ability is increasing. Contains many more suggestions.

brimstead, Sunday, 10 July 2016 02:14 (one year ago) Permalink

"journey to the edge of the universe" by upper astral is the only one with more than a few ratings on rym. no reviews, but i'm giving it a listen and if you're into super-ambient berlin school stuff it should be up your alley.

― the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Saturday, July 9, 2016 8:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks! Yeah, this is one Brown's piece recommends. I'll track this down today.

Wimmels, Sunday, 10 July 2016 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I've heard a lot of Valley of the Sun releases via slsk and Upper Astral is indeed the best of the lot. Just checked discogs and had a laugh to see a collection of 7 UA tapes offered for $1800!

Yelploaf, Sunday, 10 July 2016 20:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I saw that! Wish someone would reissue this stuff, though the Wire piece mentions some sort of legal battle between Sutphen and his ex wife. What a shame. All the Upper Astral stuff I've heard so far is terrific, though I don't know which are the duo albums and which were done by either Naegele or Storrs alone. Lots to explore here. Going well with my recent Calvino binge.

Wimmels, Monday, 11 July 2016 01:38 (one year ago) Permalink

If you're not fussy about format and just want to listen, you could just jump over to http://hiddenvalleyofthesunpublishing.blogspot.com

doug watson, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 00:55 (one year ago) Permalink

nice, thx for sharing

brimstead, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 02:14 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

http://pitchfork.com/features/cover-story/reader/natural-selection/

just sayin, Thursday, 3 November 2016 09:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

^^ about irv teibel

just sayin, Thursday, 3 November 2016 09:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Not a lot of discussion about this latest LITA comp, a sort of European companion to the I Am The Center box:

www.discogs.com/Various-The-Microcosm-Visionary-Music-Of-Continental-Europe-1970-1986/master/1106146

I'm digging most of it so far. Exactly half of these names were already familiar to me, but of those, I'm not sure I've heard any of the actual tracks included here. Still digging in, but my first impression is that it flows better than I Am The Center (could just be the sequencing), though it may lack the immediate 'highs' (Wilburn Burchette, Joanna Brouk, etc) of that comp.

The weird thing about compilations of this kinda stuff is that it frees the individual tunes from their original context, which maybe misses the point a little? That said, this has been sounding great to me today.

I got this on CD, btw, because flipping 3 sides of vinyl is a pain in the butt and I'm not sure vinyl is really the best format for this kind of music.

Wimmels, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 23:10 (six months ago) Permalink

I thought the point of these collections was to compile rare tracks and/or artists who haven't yet been critically reappraised? What's the point of including folks like Vangelis or Popol Vuh, who are well-known and liked and whose albums can be acquired easily and cheaply?

Also, considering that New Age is one of the few genres where a lot of women have been producing and recording music autonomously for decades, these compilations are surprisinly male-heavy. Where's Lucia Hwong, Alquimia, Therese Schroeder, Meg Bowles, Suzanne Ciani, Deborah Martin, etc? At least the first one had Constance Demby on it.

Tuomas, Thursday, 5 January 2017 13:07 (six months ago) Permalink

suspect that for every person who sees eg Vangelis on something like this and turns their nose up at the obviousness of it all, there's someone else for whom it's the hook to investigate further

LITA is more a label for curious dabblers rather than srs heads I'd say

Vlogs from other credible bands such as Shed Seven (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:41 (six months ago) Permalink

not sure I agree with that. I don't see a lot of curious dabblers shelling out $50+ for a box set because they're mildly curious about ambient music beyond Eno

tbh I was a bit put off at first by the inclusion of some of the "big" names on here, too; I'm pretty sure I own everything Popol Vuh and Ash Ra Tempel have released, for one thing. But there's a lot on here I'd never heard, and the whole thing flows rather nicely, like a playlist where you occasionally recognize the song playing but not the ones surrounding it.

xp the complaint about the maleness is valid enough, but I Am The Center is what introduced me to the music of Joanna Brouk, for which I am very thankful. Probably one of my favorite discoveries of 2013

Wimmels, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:45 (six months ago) Permalink

i get not wanting to include more well-known artists on a comp like this, but I also think it's useful/interesting to hear those "big" names in the company of obscurities. i'm probably a curious dabbler in this kind of thing anyway. love to dabble.

tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:57 (six months ago) Permalink

and while i'm here, let me highly recommend this series of amazing mixes (some of which falls into the "new age" category, some of which may not) that a friend of mine put together over the last few years: http://loveallday.com/category/gown-control/
so good!

tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:00 (six months ago) Permalink

xp relatively speaking, so am I! I leave it to experts to compile stuff like this because I no more want to needle drop on a thousand shitty new age LPs looking for hidden gems than I do scour bins looking for demotik Greek 78s or researching unlabeled dub plates.

Wimmels, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:01 (six months ago) Permalink

These comps looks great, Tyler, thanks!

Wimmels, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:02 (six months ago) Permalink

yr welcome -- the piano one in particular is AMAZING. but they're all good -- this guy Michael has indeed needle dropped on a thousand shitty new age LPs (and listened to even more tapes) looking for hidden gems. he is great at finding them.

tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:11 (six months ago) Permalink

and the whole thing flows rather nicely, like a playlist where you occasionally recognize the song playing but not the ones surrounding it.

sold

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:54 (six months ago) Permalink

I wonder if anyone can ID the first track here or have a stab at who it might be by. Or indeed any others in the first 17 minutes (before the two Kraftwerk tracks), or the one at 29 minutes after No Man...

https://www.mixcloud.com/distantdrums/offshore-state-circus-outer-bongolia-solid-steel-kiss-100fm-6-2-1994/

Noel Emits, Friday, 6 January 2017 12:41 (six months ago) Permalink

And the echoey acoustic guitar + wave sounds & flute + harmonium tracks after that, before the Robert Leiner etc. You get the idea.

Noel Emits, Friday, 6 January 2017 12:46 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Gown Control mixes are amazing (I am through Volume 3 and Sunpath are blowing my mind. Thinking about picking up the two tape set. Loved the Planetary Pleasure track on the first one, downloaded the whole tape and found it a little different (more Christian hippy dippy amateur harmony vocals over Joseph Byrd style experiments than I was expecting) but pretty charming none-the-less.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 4 March 2017 22:59 (four months ago) Permalink

been listening to those sunpath cassettes on Apple Music ("yasimin and the snowflake dragon" and "sunpath 2") and yes they are marvelous

the late great, Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:04 (four months ago) Permalink

Sunpath! Where has this been hiding?! Beautiful stuff.

Wimmels, Sunday, 5 March 2017 02:55 (four months ago) Permalink

It's weird to me that there isn't a book about this scene--its origins, politics, most famous practitioners--by now. Surely someone is working on one? If one exists, can anyone point me in that direction? A few years ago I had a book from the eighties that was sort of "who's who" of new age, and it was enlightening enough (if dated), but was more a 'guide' in the Trouser Press sense, with an alphabetical listing of artists and short, paragraph-sized spotlights on particular high points of the respective discographies.

This Sunpath stuff, I just want to reiterate, is great, btw. Almost in a too-good-to-be-true way, like it could be a hoax or something. Any way it could be a hoax or something? Kinda weird that the only link on Discogs is to this 2016 "reissue"

Wimmels, Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:06 (four months ago) Permalink

There's an interview out there with the guy who made it: https://www.stonesthrow.com/news/2016/05/sunpath

larry appleton, Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:12 (four months ago) Permalink

Well, yeah, but that could just be someone's dad or something in that photo! It wouldn't take a great amount of effort to just have someone pose as this guy in phone interviews and then provide a picture of some rando guy who looks the part.

Let me be clear: I am in no way suggesting this is a hoax, only that it would be funny / neat if it was, and would not diminish my enjoyment of it whatsoever. You have to admit, though, the fact that Google turns up no info at all on this guy before 2016 is somewhat suspect, given that even the most obscure shit (even obscuro new age tapes - see the many blogs) has at least some web presence.

Wimmels, Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:32 (four months ago) Permalink

"Sonic Seasonings" (1972) by Wendy Carlos must be one of the earliest ambient/new age albums in existence?

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:34 (four months ago) Permalink

sunpath interview is awesome

the late great, Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:59 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm really digging the sunpath, thanks. esp. the song "gá te", particularly the passage from about 18:00 to 19:30. wow.

Karl Malone, Monday, 6 March 2017 04:00 (four months ago) Permalink

i realize it's silly to isolate a brief section from a 30 minute song, but it enters into a true magic zone there

Karl Malone, Monday, 6 March 2017 04:00 (four months ago) Permalink

Whelp I guess that answers that. I find the fake lost recordings phenomenon/marketing to be a little interesting as I'm not sure if most cases the music wouldn't be just as warmly received without it (Unknown Krautrock and Stefano Loprato spring to mind).

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 March 2017 13:04 (four months ago) Permalink

I agree. There was a metal band a few years ago called Velvet Cacoon who (iirc) were exposed as some sort of phonies, but the records they made are still great imo. See also: Marvin Pontiac

xp Yeah, good sleuthing! Still, crazy that that's what you turned up. It's crazy that something in this day and age can remain so (almost) completely off the grid.

Wimmels, Monday, 6 March 2017 14:24 (four months ago) Permalink

Wasn't the Jurgen Muller 'lost' album from a few years ago famously a hoax?

groovypanda, Thursday, 9 March 2017 14:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Absolutely.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 March 2017 15:27 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

When I click show all messages in this thread, Chrome blocks the page and warns that www.technodisco.net is an attack site. I'm guessing there's a message with some embedded dodgy code/links? All I wanted were some blissed-out Aquarian vibes...

the_ecuador_three, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 12:14 (three months ago) Permalink

I put a note in to Mod Request

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 13:55 (three months ago) Permalink

nice stuff on that mix

ogmor, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:05 (three months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

http://iasos.com/artists/chandler/
https://www.discogs.com/artist/561784-Geoffrey-Chandler

Word on FB from mutual friends that Geoffrey Chandler has passed. Only one album in his discography but that one helped define the entire genre. We need a cleaned up remaster of it very very badly.

Milton Parker, Sunday, 16 July 2017 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink


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