David Ackle's American Gothic

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If I buy it, will I like it and listen to it? Too weird? I'm not necessarily rockist but I'm afraid it'll be like Paul Williams or something.

andy, Friday, 19 March 2004 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Dude sounds like Neil Diamond.

andrew gold, Friday, 19 March 2004 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I like it a lot. Haven't listened to it an about a year and a half, but just beacuse it's not the kind of thing I've been into recently. It's not really Paul Williams, Andrew is half right with the Neil Diamond bit, but add a little Scott Walker.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 19 March 2004 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i think Subway to the Country is his best album, and it has "inmates of the institution" on, which is incredible, and stands way above his other songs...

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gareth (gareth), Friday, 19 March 2004 07:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i own two copies of this and stand by it

duke warbler, Friday, 19 March 2004 08:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I love it, I agree with the above comments, but it reminds me of Harry Nilsson as well.

actionjackson, Friday, 19 March 2004 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, nothing like Paul Williams, more like a weather-beaten Nilsson. My fave is his self-titled debut, but you won't regret buying American Gothic either.

harveyw (harveyw), Friday, 19 March 2004 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i think Subway to the Country is his best album, and it has "inmates of the institution" on, which is incredible, and stands way above his other songs...

Ha ha, I think "Subway to the Country" is his worst album and "Inmates of the Insitution" probably his worst song, there ya go. Vocally, he does sound like Neil Diamond on occasion - musically, well if you can imagine Randy Newman meets Leonard Cohen meets Broadway meets Aaron Copland meets Brecht/Weill... Personally, I think his first album is his strongest, it's his sparsest and least overwrought album - "American Gothic" is his most orchestrated. When it comes right down to it, if you listen to "Montana Song" from "American Gothic" and it makes you cringe then I wouldn't recommend persisting with David Ackles, if it makes you cry then I would!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 19 March 2004 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Dadaismus seconded, except I think this is is best one. The more over the top, the better. I love this record; "Montana Song" damn near makes me cry. A left-field comparison: if you like Randy Newman's Good Old Boys but wish it was more like a musical, this is for you.

southern lights (southern lights), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Thinking about it, I think this album might appeal to the Van Dyke Parks nuts among you - well "Montana Song" especially, positively Ivesian in places.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Good point about the Van Dyke Parks nuts; for me, American Gothic was the record I was hoping Song Cycle to be (I'm one of those people who could never could get through it)

southern lights (southern lights), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

So I guess I mean that this Ackles record will not only appeal to VDP nuts, but also to people who thought VDP would be for them in theory, but wanted something a little less obfuscated.

southern lights (southern lights), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

Love's Enough / One Night Stand and especially Waiting For The Moving Van are the major keepers here. definitely one for my late night/rainy outside file.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:58 (two weeks ago) link

I agree that the straightforward ballads (I'd include Another Friday Night) are more appealing than the musical theatre "production numbers", which can get "overwrought" as someone said above.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 16:24 (two weeks ago) link

yes, absolutely correct. they just feel a lot more natural and affecting than the more self consciously arty/theatrical pieces.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 16:26 (two weeks ago) link

Moving Van & Another Friday Night are my favorite tunes on the album... but I like every song, with Billy Utah being maybe the weakest. It's a strong collection.
(Weird, I think I started this thread.)

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 16:50 (two weeks ago) link

Oh, I take that back... Montana Song brings me almost to tears, maybe the loveliest tune in the Elektra catalog.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 16:51 (two weeks ago) link


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