Seminal LA punks or lame-ass cowpunk wannabes?
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 18 March 2004 08:07 (twenty years ago) link
The first Mike Ness solo album has its moments too.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 18 March 2004 08:10 (twenty years ago) link
Also, hats off to guitarist Dennis Danell, who was friends with Mike since school and formed the band with him, stuck with the band as well through thick and thin...and then was walking in his driveway Leap Year Day 2000 and fell over dead due to a brain aneurysm. Left behind a family, one of the truly tragic rock and roll deaths.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link
From behind the Orange Curtain!
There's certainly something lame about them, but I don't think I'd ever call them cowpunk wannabes (that's Ch3 you're thinking of). Mommy's Little Monster is still great, but the rest of their stuff is pretty meh!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 March 2004 13:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 March 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 18 March 2004 23:54 (twenty years ago) link
Best albums are 'Mommy's Little Monster' and 'White Light...' though each have a bit of filler. The self-titled probably ranks next, as it's pretty solid, and the other stuff I'd say is more for fans--yes, yes, their "Making Believe" does smoke (I was sad the other day when I learned it--the best song on the album!--was a cover).
I love the fact they can make simple songs so powerful--check "Let It Be Me", all two chords of it (esp the 'Live At The Roxy' version). I dislike their general same-y-ness, especially in the lead guitar stuff, and the fact that they are prone to pad their LPs with subpar stuff.
Ness' solo LPs are good fun, too. I haven't listened to the second--all-covers--one, but the first has some great originals and great covers (however cliche--"You Win Again", "Don't Think Twice").
PS:
The first two major label LPs you seek I frequently find as cheap-ass "midlines"--look for 'em.
― John 2, Friday, 19 March 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 20 March 2004 00:29 (twenty years ago) link
Search: the Another State Of Mind movie, which is one of the best touring/road movies ever.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 20 March 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 20 March 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 20 March 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago) link
― John 2, Saturday, 20 March 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago) link
― chaki in charge (chaki), Friday, 24 December 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Saturday, 6 August 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 August 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/24/obit.liles.ap/index.html
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 26 January 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Listening to the new one now, "Hard Times and Nursery Rhymes." More of the former, less of the latter though I guess that depends on what whiskey you drink. Sometimes it sounds like something the Black Crowes coulda done a decade ago... lotsa good riffs and Mike Ness' patented nasal twang. Does 'em justice, for sure.
― NYCNative, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Yo is it true some MAGA chud got sonned by Mike Ness in a concert beef?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgSeKpMYdHM
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08/15/social-distortion-mike-ness-beating/
― Eliza D., Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link
haha awesome
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
<3
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
from my FB feed
Awwwwww, I saw Mike Ness punch a Nazi skin in 1985. Good to know some things stay the same!
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
Hildebrand says the singer started badmouthing President Trump and America and the Republican farmer from Galt didn’t like it.“I stood pretty much with my silent protest with my middle finger up for the next two songs.”
“I stood pretty much with my silent protest with my middle finger up for the next two songs.”
“If he wants to have a talk someday, man to man, I would love that but he would have to not be a child about it.”
sorry was the second quote from Ness or...
― omar little, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
lol I saw that this had happened but the Trump angle was not originally reported
anyway this band is terrible
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link
I like the stuff they did before the first break up in the mid 80s OK enough
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
Omar the second quote was from the guy he hit
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
Btw i am happy this happened
yeah I mean I fully support right wingers being punched at punk shows even if the band sucks
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
I never listen to this band, but they are not terrible. I'd compromise on mediocre. Too many good songs. White Light, White Heat, White Trash might be the hottest mixed album I've ever heard.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
LA Prison Bound is dope
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
i knew that, it's just another example of a MAGA redpill chud acting like a middle schooler and then pretending they're the adult in the room
― omar little, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
Story of My Life is one of those songs i still hear all the time around here.
― omar little, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
but the Social D ethos are bad overall, aesthetically terrible. though probably more influential than acknowledge, Guy Fieri is a descendant of their weird so-call punk rockabilly flame bowling shirt thing
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
i think unfortunately a lot of people think of them when they think of socal so-called punk
― omar little, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
well they were huge in the 83-85 era, 1st LP is a total classic of the genre although in hindsight u can see they were really just a regular rock band
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
I dunno. I saw the band's infamous 1992 CBGB show that they simulcast in Times Square and they were on fire. Mommy's Little Monster is pretty great too. They've been hit or miss since and might be guilty of inspiring some terrible bands, I will concede.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
I haven't listened to Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell in decades, but I just looked through the tracklisting and still remember large swaths of it fondly. I don't really know them outside of that album, but I bought it on the same day I finally picked up Nevermind. Ball and Chain was way too overplayed on my local alt rock station for many years until I couldn't stand them anymore.
― how's life, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
Yeah, it's not like Mike Ness is some Johnny come lately poseur, he's a lifer. Even if, like a lot of bands from that era, in retrospect SD is just a regular rock band
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
Ok, "large swaths" is an exaggeration. Maybe half of it.
― how's life, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
shoulda put "regular rock band" in quotes, was not intended as a dis
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
Social D ethos are bad overall, aesthetically terrible
I wanna make a George Thorogood comparison here for some reason
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
just this kinda embarassingly dumb thing distilled down to its bare essence
Board descript
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
2 1/2 points, all in response to Οὖτις:
1) Social Distortion are a good-to-very good rock band. As I said way upthread, I saw them live 3 times in their major label heyday - once in an arena opening for Neil Young & Crazy Horse and Sonic Youth, once headlining a large-ish club, and once headlining at Maxwell's (a tiny bar in Hoboken, NJ). The large headlining show was genuinely great. Tons of energy, big hooky songs that fill the room, solid stage presence...
2) George Thorogood is a lot smarter than you're giving him credit for being. I interviewed him about 10 years ago and saw him live a few years after that; he knows what his role in the universe is and he puts on a hell of a show even at 60+.
2.5) Re Guy Fieri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK6zuii2OLI
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
he knows what his role in the universe is
I think SD does too and I think their roles are similar, is all I was saying
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
that I don't enjoy either of their aesthetics is kind of beside the point
that is a good story btw, I've seen you link it before
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
Wish the title track had become as much of a legacy song for them as Ball and Chain, Story of My Life, and Ring of Fire.
― timellison, Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
1) i LIKE triple D & fieri, but the whole so-cal smashmouth shirt thing is the worst fashion ever2) george thorogood is dope, he's not that far from like dr. feelgood if he was english and associated w/punk he would be a cult figure
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
here's mike ness talking about his background in music and sound for an hourhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044h_SAWnpU
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
I've never seen the early '90s videos, it's weird seeing punk heartthrob (such pouty lips!) Ness - in my mind's eye he transformed from looking like he was 16 in Another State of Mind to immediately being 65 after the couple of lost years in the early '80s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIJyL9ZnPs
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
wrong video, no throbbing therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh8zcbC_Dcw
Rotten news:
Today, legendary OC punks Social Distortion announce that they have postponed their upcoming North American headlining tour due to the stage-one tonsil cancer diagnosis of vocalist Mike Ness. As he recovers from a recent surgery, the band is also temporarily halting the recording process of their eighth studio album. The previously announced tour, set to kick off on June 30th with support from fellow California rockers The Bellrays, is now being rescheduled for future dates. Check out the emotional statement from Ness below: “We think that life is going to go according to our plan, but it has a way of saying “I don’t think so!” In the midst of pre-production, I was diagnosed with stage one tonsil cancer. I was feeling well enough to continue with recording in the studio up until the very day before surgery. The band and I were so inspired and excited to lay down these tracks, which by the way sound f-ing AWESOME! The recovery from surgery is a day-by-day process and in three weeks we start radiation and that should be the last therapy I need. The team of doctors are certain that once finished with this course, I will be able to start the healing and recovery process. We expect a full recovery enabling me to live a long and productive life. It breaks my heart to post pone tours, and this album release, but time is required to heal. I can’t thank our loyal fans enough who have been waiting so patiently for this. While it will take a little longer-I promise you that it will be delivered and it will exceed your expectations. I want you all to know that this has opened my eyes to a whole new struggle. I know it’s one that many of you or your loved ones have personally endured, and my heart goes out to you-because I now know what it’s like from this heavy experience. I’m surrounded by love and support from my friends and family ESPECIALLY my lovely wife and incredible boys (oh and don’t forget my 3 dogs and kitty) THANK YOU ALL in advance to our unbelievable fans for YOUR love and support right now. ♥️ We WILL get through this….”
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 16:25 (ten months ago) link
Thanks for this Ned, sad indeed but hope for the best.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:49 (ten months ago) link