The Prodigy - Classic or Dud ?

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What about these merry pranksters then?

Has this question been asked? Cuz i think its an interesting one.

They are a band perceived very differently in the UK and the US...

But how do you guys rate them? Is there method behind the madness?

Is Liam Howlett an underapreciated British instiution?

Is "Jilted Generation" one of the best albums of the 1990s ?

Thanks in advance for any responses..

Cheers.

Dave.

Dave C, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, they're great. Pure cartoon fun. A quartet that was always a solo act, brilliant.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Good for what they were, which wasn't much.

Todd Burns, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ned's right.

ethan, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Fantastic grateness!

dave q, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic for first singles and albums. Charly, Everybody in the Place, Outer Space and Fire = total pop classics. Great tracks to lose it to in the club, way back in '91. After that patchy, really. Liam's attitude in interviews = rather dud.

Omar, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think both Experience and Music For The Jilted Generation are classics - the first as being possibly the only truly great hardcore techno album (not that the style needed an album to apologise for it), and the second for taking the style to a place no-one else had thought of - which is strange considering that in retrospect it seems like such an obvious move. I never bothered checking out The Fat Of The Land because the idea of Saffron Republica and Crispin Kula Shaker being on the same album disturbed me.

Tim, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Great band. I hated Fat Of The Land for ages but eventually I had to bow and say despite some weak tracks it is ace, after I kept hearing fantastic banging widescreen techno in the pub and saying tell me fellow drinkers what is this, and fellow drinkers looking at me funny and saying it's the Prodigy Tom I thought you were meant to know music.

Experience is also terrific - all their best singles except Firestarter on one disc. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION! Etc.

Jilted Generation has some good stuff on but overall it's too long and it's their weakest, and "The Narcotic Suite" is just awful.

They are also of course classic for having the worst gatefold sleeves of the 90s - Experience was bad enough with the badly drawn hippie cyborg top trumps but Jilted Generation has one of the most terrible drawings of all time ever and I laugh like a drain every time I see it.

Tom, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Saw them play live (2 really awful new songs) this summer and they were doing the whole act with the DAT running. Crap really, but the audience went ape like it was 1996.

The fact that the hits from 'Experience' still get young kids on the floor at the club pretty much sums Howlett's skills up for me. But I wouldn't touch that upcoming album with a 10-foot cattleprod.

Alacrán, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. Charly (espec D+B version) + Out of Space are absolute gems,Experience + Jilted Generation rare examples of hardcore albums that work. Thereafter Liam seemed to drift towards alt.rockisms that paid massive commercial dividends with Fat of the Land but didn't quite cut the mustard. Hugely important band though in opening up interest in brit-rave/breakbeat sounds. I was in Poland in '98 where a Krakow store had a huge section selling nothing but Prodigy tapes/CDs. Initially upon hearing 'Charly' I found them 'dumb but fun', but now consider them one of the important acts of the 90s.

stevo, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Abysmal.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"out of space" = 14th best song of the 90s, as determined by SCIENCE.

and yes, there is a vast difference in how they are percieved in the us and the uk, especially by the, uh, younger generation. or, as a paraphrase i used in a mix tape that i pinched from our own mr. ewing: "it may surprise listeners born after 1980 to know that the prodigy were once a pop band." jilted and fat of the land may be grate, but i doubt i'll ever be arsed at this point to find out.

jess, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they bummed him. They bummed him like Wez bummed Ferg. Right in the swiss.

Dave McDermott, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, while I'm here, I think that the cat in "Charly" was gay. A revelation I know, but hey, I think it's true. Not only that, but he was a pedophile.

Think about it, why was the cat hanging around with a small boy. The cat sounded old, lets say at least 5. That would make him 35 in catty years. What a perv!!

I now finally see Liam's meaning behind the whole song. It was a political statement, the cat was John Major. He must be a Thatcher fan. Interesting shit.

Dave McDermott, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Amazing how some people here rattle on about things they clearly know nothing about...

Stupid "Prodigy are techno" assumptions :

"Experience and Music For The Jilted Generation are classics - the first as being possibly the only truly great hardcore techno album" - Tim.

"...kept hearing fantastic banging widescreen techno in the pub and saying tell me fellow drinkers what is this, and fellow drinkers looking at me funny and saying it's the Prodigy" - Tom Ewing.

Get a clue, guys. Prodigy were never techno.

More false rubbish :

"...they were doing the whole act with the DAT running" - Alacrán.

I was there. It was live.

Downright lack of taste :

"...the worst gatefold sleeves of the 90s ... Jilted Generation has one of the most terrible drawings of all time ever" - Tom Ewing.

"Abysmal" - The Pinefox.

Absolutely pathetic attempt at 'humour' :

"Also, while I'm here, I think that the cat in "Charly" was gay. A revelation I know, but hey, I think it's true. Not only that, but he was a pedophile. Think about it, why was the cat hanging around with a small boy. The cat sounded old, lets say at least 5. That would make him 35 in catty years. What a perv!! I now finally see Liam's meaning behind the whole song. It was a political statement, the cat was John Major. He must be a Thatcher fan." - Dave McDermott.

Iain Lee lives!

Peter Thomas, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Prodigy nexus makes me think of lexis-nexis makes me think of medical research. Also, if they were't techno, then what were they, eh?

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The british version of Slipknot.

Kris, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Who is Iain Lee? Are Tim, Tom, the Pinefox, and so forth supposed to be writing rubbish on the par of this sadly deceased Mr. Lee?

Damn, I wish I still had access to Lexis-Nexis at work. Fun and useful.

scott p., Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

(i'm just glad no one's asked me for my notes or other scientific evidence.)

jess, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Peter Thomas: Absolutely pathetic attempt at 'humour' =marvelous self-analysis/awareness.

stevo, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's Peter Prodigy!! My god! Hey Ned! Ally! RickyT! It's Peter The Prodigy Fan off of alt music alternative! Oh the fun we had having EXACTLY THE SAME ARGUMENTS with him as he wants to have now.

For my reply to your message Peter I suggest Google Groups. But damn, it's nice to know you're still out there. I feel all nostalgic now. BRING ON HEATHER THE GARBAGE FAN!

Tom, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Quite thankfully I have forgotten all about Peter the Pathetic Prodge Promoter or whatever he was supposed to be called. This is a good and marvelous thing in my eyes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I eat turd.

Peter 'fucking' Thomas, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Thee pridigy = /<-sux0r. I read a descktiption somewhere that said "The Sham 69 of techno" That just about sums it up for me.

x0x0

/<-r/-\/>-31337, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Goddamnit, why did he come here without Heather? DOESN'T HE KNOW I WANT HEATHER? God, she was so great, I post a review of Push It that WASN'T THAT NEGATIVE (it amounted to "It's kind of dull, innit? I liked their first album, I hope their second is good despite this") and she went on for FOUR MONTHS about it. But I guess Prodigy have whooped Garbage, since they've come back and Garbage fans haven't.

PS Prodigy? Pff, fuck the Prodigy.

Ally, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I am CRUSHED that I wasn't included in the shout-out at Pete's return. I suspect that this is because I never clashed with him as badly as some of y'all. Actually, I don't think we ever clashed.

Oh, I spoke too soon. We did clash at least once, but I can't find his response to my post. Anyway, hi Pete!

Dan Perry, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Bloody hell, I'd forgotten about him. I wonder if Sally Kenwaite will make an appearance soon.

For Scott: Iain Lee = monstrously unfunny TV comedian w/boggly eyes, recently removed from desperately dire so-called satirical prog The 11 O'Clock Show after someone at Channel 4 finally realised he was rubbish.

RickyT, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I remember Pete Prodge from the TV Cream list, on which he took the name "Channel Zero". I'm pretty sure it's the same one, anyway ...

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

For once, I agree with the Pinefox, I really can't stand the Prodigy...I've tried to like them, I really have, but...oh fuck it, they're just abso-fucking-lutely terrible, a criminal waste of plastic and time. The sooner they fuck off for good the better.

DG, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

DG, the "What Evil Lurks" EP is untouchable by any metric. It's a solid 20 minutes of hardcore heaven.

Dan Perry, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, I haven't heard that, perhaps it is GRATE. Anyway, before anyone gets carried away with what I said, I have no critical hate of the Prodigy, just a totally visceral irritation with every record they've ever put out (that I've heard).

DG, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

When people talk about The Prodigy, I reach for my gun.

Michael Taylor, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Michael, hush.

Tim, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Sometimes I bleed when I pooh and end up sticking my finger all the way into my pelvic area just to push my own shit.

Thanks

Peter

Peter Penis, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That nutty Liam H. -- instead of working on a new album, he googles threads about his band and then posts on them with fake names!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Would this be an appropriate time to say, "GETCHER FINGER OUT AND FINISH THE ALBUM!!!!!"?

Dan Perry, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It didn't work with me and MBV, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What about _XTRMNTR_? *runs and hides*

Dan Perry, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I said *MBV*, not the Bobby Gillespie Retirement Home for the Class of 1990.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What in gods name is wrong with Shoot Speed Kill Light? That's as good as anything on Loveless. And I er....love loveless.

Ronan, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

You misunderstand me, taint nuthin wrong with it at all. I just want the real thing. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

PRML SCRM SXR! @# ! @#!

BBBY GLSSP = WNKR! @# ! @# !

Nrmn Phy, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

thats because they miss Ae eaea (put in the consonants, duh)

gareth, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
I managed to get a copy of what I'm told is an extremely rare Prodigy documentary/live bootleg collection called Electronic Punks. After watching it let me just say that I have a new appreciation for the guys. There's a whole lot hysterical stuff, like Liam the morning after a rave waking up inside a suitcase, and out-take footage from the Poison video showing Keith and co posturing and just generally being the antethesis of the characters they portray.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Electronic Punks is excellent. i bought the VHS when it came out (it was an official release in the UK) tho i don't suppose it's ever made it onto DVD? i'm just amazed they had so much Super 8 footage laying around from the very beginning (but it makes sense as they were keen on making videos from the start). remember that it all dates from before 'Firestarter' when Keith was just a flaky Bezalike with only vague aspirations of touting himself as a punk image-wise.

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

also at the beginning and end of it you get to hear 'We Eat Rhythm' which is the track that would've closed Music For The Jilted Generation had Howlett been able to fit it on. More on that is in the accompanying bio by Linus Roache.

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh it must've been because the guy I got it from was American, and he probably (rightfully) considered it rare.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

One thing that the video made very clear to me was just how necessary Keith and Maxim were to their image. Liam just didn't have any presence whatsoever, and never would have made it in the way he did without those ridiculous poseurs.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:57 (sixteen years ago) link

it should never have worked, i still don't know how it did.

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...
"Mad" Keith, yesterday.

JoB (JoB), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:02 (sixteen years ago) link

aww, shit

kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 11:28 (two years ago) link

Siegbran, I think that's a relatively narrow EDM definition?

I might be liberally clumping in the post-"dubstep" stuff under EDM, but my understanding (and limited experience) is that a large portion of the acts at modern EDM festivals is the drop-heavy rippling bass stuff. Which is more Prodigy-indebted, but much less radio friendly.

Half of the stuff thrown into dj sets by a couple edm acts that were playing at a side stage at a festival I was at last year were playing 90% stuff that sounded like post-Skrillex with rap vocals tossed in.

mh, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 14:56 (two years ago) link

Hmm yeah that goes to show that EDM as a tag isn't very useful in discussing this stuff (in the wider definition even Moroder and the Pet Shop Boys fall under it), I was indeed more referring to the narrower "country/pop singer dropping inspirational lyrics over a huge anthemic build/drop" EDM, but yeah that (post)dubstep stuff is of course totally indebted to The Prodigy.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:09 (two years ago) link

country/pop singer dropping inspirational lyrics over a huge anthemic build/drop

Based on admittedly anecdotal evidence, EDM's definition has narrowed down over the years, and this appears to be its prevalent meaning nowadays. I might be wrong, though.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:17 (two years ago) link

my definition is "stuff that plays at events like Electric Daisy Carnival that isn't a legacy act or dance genre that I'd like (that is probably playing a small side stage for old people)"

mh, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:21 (two years ago) link

The bit about the 5k is especially sad. I haven't been touched by serious depression or suicidal thoughts. I just know that for me, exercise is such a life-affirming activity.

I don't really know anything about Keith or the Prodigy, but there's been such an outpouring of grief from so many people I wouldn't have expected a connection. I'm sorry for all you who were fans.

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:35 (two years ago) link

that photo of keith running checks out - looks like he only started doing parkrun just a couple of weeks ago

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/results/athleteresultshistory/?athleteNumber=5457329

kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:38 (two years ago) link

not bad times either for someone just starting out

kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:40 (two years ago) link

The bit about the 5k is especially sad. I haven't been touched by serious depression or suicidal thoughts. I just know that for me, exercise is such a life-affirming activity.

Yeah, I've been doing parkrun for just over two years and personally know a couple of people who are in a much better place mentally since they started doing it. There's usually such a friendly community around the events too.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:30 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm listening to 'No Tourists'. It's... yeah, it sounds like what you'd expect it to sound like. But will anyone here vouch for post FOTL Prodigy?

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 7 June 2021 15:24 (two weeks ago) link

Yes.

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 16:47 (two weeks ago) link

Yes but not in large quantities.

Siegbran, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:07 (two weeks ago) link

I'm not sure I'd particularly vouch for FoTL.

chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:08 (two weeks ago) link

"Funky Shit" and "Serial Thrilla" might be the worst things they've ever recorded

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

The last track with the woman from Republica is rubbish as well.

chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:15 (two weeks ago) link

Breathe and Firestarter haven't aged massively well. Smack My Bitch Up still bangs though.

chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:17 (two weeks ago) link

And the Crispy Mills one still sounds surprisingly decent.

chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

FOTL is a great EP ("Smack My Bitch Up", "Diesel Power", "Mindfields", "Narayan", "Climbatize") with some decent filler ("Firestarter", "Breathe") and some total horseshit (the rest, although "Fuel My Fire" is at least bad in an entertaining way)

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

That's solidly OTM.

chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:21 (two weeks ago) link

Can't remember Climbatize though!

chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:21 (two weeks ago) link

The instrumental towards the end.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 June 2021 19:10 (two weeks ago) link

I quite like Naryan. Climbatize is good in a "let's do Weather Experience again" way. The two lead singles are great but I never need to hear then again. Don't care much for the rest really.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 7 June 2021 19:31 (two weeks ago) link

"Diesel Power" rules

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 19:35 (two weeks ago) link

wow, i completely forgot "Fuel My Fire" existed... in my head it sounds pretty good.... but i think this might be an album where glancing at the tracklist and thinking about the hooks it seems like an all-killer-no-filler album, but i'm actually forgetting some exhausting digressions because WOW it's 56 minutes long?!

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:28 (two weeks ago) link

“Serial Thrilla” is 200% enervating

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah it’s too long for such a monochromatic album, but drop Firestarter (I never need to hear that ever again), Funky Shit and Fuel My Fire and you’re done.

Siegbran, Monday, 7 June 2021 23:11 (two weeks ago) link

"Smack My Bitch Up" is the single I've really tired of. "Breathe" got the most play on the alternative station I listened to in the 90s but I never hear it anymore and enjoy it nowadays. "Mindfields" and "Narayan" quietly the best tracks on the album

Vinnie, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:20 (two weeks ago) link

yeah now that you mention it, "Breathe" has not really been super overplayed, for how big it was that year. i don't think any of the more "electronica" side of 90s alt rock has crossed over to the "alt rock is now classic rock" thing. or even the relevant xm genre stations.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:27 (two weeks ago) link

DJP, do a best prodigy tracks from 1998 onward

mh, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:32 (two weeks ago) link

1. Girls (Rex The Dog Remix)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:04 (two weeks ago) link

sic otm

Siegbran, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 05:56 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah that one is excellent. My DJ trick at the time was to mix the acappella from Breathe'n'Stop over it

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 07:27 (two weeks ago) link

The beat drop on Narayan in incredible.

chap, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 08:33 (two weeks ago) link

Spitfire (05 Version), Girls, Take Me To The Hospital, Warrior's Dance, The Day Is My Enemy (Liam Howlett Remix), Timebomb Zone that's my other picks.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 08:49 (two weeks ago) link

I've listened to so much Prodge in the last 24 hrs. Strange to listen to No Tourists and then go straight back to Experience.
There was definitely a point in their career where they stopped caring about coming up with new ideas and decided to keep using the same template - even down to the drum/break sounds Liam uses from Invaders onwards.

I'm definitely someone who got off after hearing FOTL, but I've heard Always Outnumbered and Invaders a few times out in the wild. Gonna give Always Outnumbered a spin now - my guess is that it's going to be marginally more listenable than FOTL at this point.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 08:53 (two weeks ago) link

Also, the Sub Focus remix of Smack My Bitch Up (from 2005) goes in hard.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:05 (two weeks ago) link

All these years later mind a bit blown by Jeff Mills having a credit on 'Warriors Dance' because of the 'Take Me Away' sample. I never realised he was part of Final Cut.

nashwan, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:21 (two weeks ago) link

best post-98 Prodigy: excluding the Dirtchamber mix, Howlett's own remix of You Will Be Under My Wheels

nashwan, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:24 (two weeks ago) link

Breezeblock mix was ‘98 so that counts imo

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:57 (two weeks ago) link

forgot about this (pre-98 but still great)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lEtgbT8v4k

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:42 (two weeks ago) link

Man, Climbatize is easily one of the best tracks on FOTL. Serial Thrilla is the worst.

I had a listen to 3 Kilos off of Jilted earlier - so good, and nothing like how they usually sound. They were great at doing those more chilled, funky tracks and it's strange they didn't do more of them

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:46 (two weeks ago) link

DJP, do a best prodigy tracks from 1998 onward

off the top of my head without relistening and without digging into remixes (because tbh I haven't heard a bunch of them yet, I've mostly just rattled around the albums)

Girls
Get Up Get Off
Hotride
You'll Be Under My Wheels
Omen
Take Me To The Hospital
Warrior's Dance
World's On Fire
The Day Is My Enemy
(there was another track off of The Day Is My Enemy that I REALLY liked but of course I can't remember it now)

I don't know No Tourists well enough to pick any tracks off of it

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:35 (two weeks ago) link

Cheers, I've whacked those into a playlist with a couple of No Tourists tracks

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EVnNNVYCizndzOBXdMn7c?si=8fa33b4a3b034dfc

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:56 (two weeks ago) link

btw I left Stand Up off my list; really Invaders Must Die is a great album, a lot better overall than Fat Of The Land

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:21 (two weeks ago) link

oh also Wake Up Call goes pretty hard

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:27 (two weeks ago) link

i love the prodigy vs dubstep era.
the productions levels finally met their needs.
the 2nd cd that came with the special edition of 'invaders must die', proved the point for me.
for all the classics, i have always chosen the recent material when in the mood purely cos of the insane sonics.
and 'no tourists' is so much fun.
even though it totally sonically references their history (pretty sure that liam acknowledged this at the time of its release).

mark e, Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:39 (one week ago) link

I agree, individually these newer songs are all pretty impressive sound-wise, but over a whole album it gets really hard to listen to. Then again, I’m too old.

Siegbran, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:57 (one week ago) link

yeah, cos of this thread just listened to 'no tourists' again, and absolutely love it.
a definite case of 'all killer no filler'.
the fact it's a short album means you don't get time to become bored.
yeah, its a retread of well worn prodigy tropes, but it totally works for me.

mark e, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:15 (one week ago) link


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