Van Morrison: your views please

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I'm deep into the music of Van Morrison:

* Peerless, soulful voice.

* Gifted musician - guitar, alto sax, harmonica....

* Several hundred original compositions.

* Consistently high standard of album releases.

* Outstanding live performer.

I'd be very interested to hear what others think of Van the Man.

Gerry Smith, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

You have me at a loss. I have an enormous gut feeling that Van "The Man" is absolutely dreadful and the living antithesis of all I hold dear about music (make that "this week's living antithesis...") BUT I don't have a shred of evidence to back it up.

Tom, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes agreed, but also several rather polished but tiresomely dull albums (Into the music/poetic champions compose/Day like this etc).

I'm glad you didn't say consistently high standard of live performance as he's done both one of the best and worst concerts I've ever been to. First in Glasgow around about 89' he was simply transcendent. The second at the same venue a year later he just couldn't be arsed, sloppy, insulting, bigoted, mean spirited wank. I think he'd got one of the roadies to yodel as a support and he was better than Van the Man that night.

He looks cool in a fedora though.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

And someone should tell Georgie Fame and Brian Kennedy to fuck off. Sycophantic bastards the pair of them.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i love brown-eyed girl.

ethan, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you'd like Them, Tom. I personally have not an iota of Celtic Soul abt me, and no longer cares who knows it. Moondance is kinda OK, and I like the way he was photographed on Astral Weeks to look more Kris Kristofferson than he actually ever did. At all.

mark s, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hearing the original "Have I Told You Lately That I Love You?" at my cousin's wedding for the couple's first dance was in fact a bit of a revelation, though admittedly in part because I was so used to the Rod Stewart borefest remake of same. But I honestly think I could get by with just a homemade CDR of highlights.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The entire "Astral Weeks" album is just lovely, a perfect example of LP as self-contained work of art. I know he has other good (and bad) stuff, but "Astral Weeks" is on my "must own" list.

Sean, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

He's an easy target of mockery(around here anyway): the antithesis of post-punk, earnest caterwauling hippy mystic and faux jazz self- flagellation, a widebellied little big boss man but if you can get past all that TB Sheets & Astral Weeks are their own rewards. He radiates a kind of anticharisma from those beady little eyes, and even the narrators of his songs are unlikeable - squeamish at the sickbed of an ex-lover, vaguely pedophilic li'l schoolgirl lechery all over the place, and there's a dark narcissicism underlying everything. But somehow, I love those records.

fritz, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I like both Astral Weeks and Moondance a lot. Astral Weeks has that sort of unnameable dream quality that I associate with Neutral Milk Hotel. Like the compositions are steered by something very interntal, possibly unconcious. And boy, the bass playing on that record is so nice.

He's got so much & I know so little. I also like "Wavelength". Some of those long mid-70s pieces like "Listen to the Lion" are pretty painful.

Mark, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What I wrote on the 'frat-rock' thread, i.e., should've stopped after 'Gloria'. Morrison = Meat Loaf with a Celtic burden of significance instead of cheezy American humour.

dave q, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Gerry - do you have that notorious 'contractual obligation' album he did to piss off Bang Records? (Includes "Here Comes Dumb George" and "The Big Royalty Cheque", I gather he had a bit of a beef with Bert Burns.) Now that I would love to hear.

dave q, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Those demos have been released on various semi-legit comps - 'Garbage Van' is my fave!

, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Since THEM, Van = A Turdburger.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

van morrison. please come on. let me have a big yaaaaaaaaaawn.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There are a lot of very good reasons to dislike Van Morrison. 'Astral Weeks' isn't one of them, you can forgive just about anything after that.

stevo, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

On which album can I find more songs like "Wild Nights"? Any suggestions? It's the only song by VM I really love. Really love. I have access to a good dozen of his records at the local phonothèque (cd library), but every time I pick one up, I'm not in the mood for folky stuff and that's all I seem to get. So I dont really listen to it. Did VM ever write other swinging songs about boys doing the boogie-woogie on the corner of the street?

Simon, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Van is useless, has been since Them, and has inspired more shit music than anyone not called Bob Dylan, but there's an absolute pearler of a story about him in retired PR Keith Altman's 'No More Mr Nice Guy' should anyone want to hear it.

Snotty Moore, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Like "Wild Nights" - "Domino", "Bright Side of the Road", "Jackie Wilson Said". All on the Greatest Hits album which is essential, since it gathers up all the best bits from some extremely dodgy albums. You also need "Saint Dominic's Preview" and "Astral Weeks", but almost every other Van M album consists of a few good tracks (which will be on the compilation) and lots of padding.

Andrew Norman, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
[check]

g, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

[check 2] now now -- blocking threads like that isn't very nice!

Mrs. Grundy, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

[check 3] Hmm... try this, maybe?

Mrs. Grundy, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What in god's name happened to this thread?

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Beautiful Vision, perfect album

dn, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Van Morrison's Greatest Hits doesn't has neither "TB Sheets" nor "The Way That Young Lovers Do." In fact, it doesn't have anything at all from Astral Weeks. I tried to convince my mom that she ought to throw it away and just buy his first five or six albums or whatever. She was having none of that.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 14 November 2004 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, I guess it has "Sweet Thing" on it, and it's not Greatest Hits it's The Best of BUT STILL. NO TB SHEETS. THAT IS UNFUCKINGACCEPTABLE.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 14 November 2004 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Cannot stand him, honestly.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 November 2004 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Why is this thread all fucked-up looking? Anyway Astral Weeks is like the greatest thing ever okbye.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Astral Weeks is an awful, sickly wedding cake of wobbly self-indulgence.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I love Astral Weeks! And Mad T.V.!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

What I wrote on the 'frat-rock' thread, i.e., should've stopped after 'Gloria'. Morrison = Meat Loaf with a Celtic burden of significance instead of cheezy American humour. -- dave q (scrape10...), October 17th, 2001.

dave q., as usual, nails it. still, i give a thumb's up to astral weeks and moondance, and bits and pieces of all the rest.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

WTF IS with this thread anyway?

and didn't someone on ILX once post a rilly funny story about some (REALLY disgusting) thing that van's (understandably) pissed-off stage musicians did to one of his harmonicas?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

ok i found it:

Van Morrison is a prize curmudgeon by all accounts, which gives me an opportunity to pinch this from the rocking vicar
Van's Daily Dump
Van Morrison insists on his band turning up to rehearsals at bang on 8.30am, although Van himself often doesn't turn up until ten, and then goes straight to the toilet with a copy of Exchange & Mart to have a dump. One day, the band got so cross that they waited until Van was engaged and then, one by one, tip-toed over to Van's Sacred Harmonica Bag, full of harmonicas Van has collected from around the world, picked a specimen, and rubbed it in their anal clefts. Even now, when you see Van on Later, his band seemed particularly delighted when he does a harmonica solo.


-- Billy Dods (butterbubble...), September 4th, 2002.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I love Astral Weeks to bits, but I've never felt the need to get anything else.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Fixored this fuxor. Should be readable now.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 15 November 2004 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks Sean; you're a treat.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 15 November 2004 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC maybe MAYBE has a big lump of coal where his heart is.

Maybe.


Astral Weeks = very necessary.

The rest = meh. Ups and downs.

skowly (skowly), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i like veedon fleece.

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I find him dull except for Them.

Out of context, that would be a strange sentence.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Them + pretty much everything up to 1974 classic - although the amount of love lavished on Astral Weeks is a bit perplexing and St. Dominic's Preview in particular really should receive far more love than it seems to.

Nothing I've heard from him since 1974 seems to come close - although I'd be interested to see what other ILMers think of some of his more recent albums (especially Back On Top, Down The Road, What's Wrong With This Picture) since I have recently been entertaining the (probably fanciful) notion that he's about due for a sudden and unexpected return to form.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

As somebody said on the Rod Stewart thread, that Fritz can really tell it like it is.

This message is not for Van haters, but for Van fans. I first got hip to Van when I saw the "Last Waltz." When he came out I thought "who the heck is that little fat guy, he's all flabby and dressed in a brown pantsuit? He looks like a middle-aged lady. On top of that he's doing this ridiculous chorus-line kicking." Then I kept listening and I shut up. His was the most definitive performance in the movie, his and Muddy Waters.

About Van sideman and territory-sharer Georgie Fame, who was dissed above: I saw Georgie once at Ronnie Scott's in London, and he put on one good show. He did one bit where, in a tribute to his former boss, he sang a medley of Moondance and some African song from a movie soundtrack (was it one of those Cornel Wilde things?) that was pretty damn great.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Them's version of 'Its all over now, baby blue' is classic. Astral weeks is obviously amazing. I don't give a fuck about anything else he did, and neither should anyone else.

prov, Monday, 15 November 2004 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the haters maybe don't like Van because of his jazz leanings. C'mon people, who do you think he is, Sting? The

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

A second for 'Beautiful Vision.' Great album that my folks used to put on when I was 7 or 8. Don't know if I'd have the same reaction to it if I heard it for the first time now, though.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 15 November 2004 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't like him b/c the timbre of his voice grates on me for some reason. Sorry, VM lovers!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 November 2004 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

"the antithesis of post-punk, earnest caterwauling hippy mystic and faux jazz self- flagellation"

I've never thought of Van Morrison as hippy-anything (or especially earnest, for that matter). Unlike the faux-mysticism of, say, Led Zeppelin, Van's lyrics steer clear of gnomes and m'ladys, are grounded instead in back alleys, snowstorms, trains, Safeway supermarkets, and memory. More importantly, the music is equally grounded: in r&b. His 70's catalogue (Moondance, Tupelo Honey, St Dominick's Preview, Hardnose the Highway, Veedon Fleece, and though it's '69, Astral Weeks belongs in this group too) is at least as strong as Al Green's. After that, for the most part it seems like he started reading a bit too much of his own press: yes, the mysticism did start to grate. I've been listening to him a lot again. He good.

Burr (Burr), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

He's supposedly a mean drunk.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Unlike the faux-mysticism of, say, Led Zeppelin, Van's lyrics steer clear of gnomes and m'ladys,
??? Sorry, those two terms do not appear anywhere in any LZ song.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, I should have said dark lords and elders of the gentle race.

Burr (Burr), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank you, that'll be fine.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

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Almost Independence Day sounded even better than usual as I drove through Marin this morning. For a ten minute tune with a fair bit of repetition and sparse instrumentation, the groove and atmosphere pull you in and hold your attention. Beautiful way to start the day.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 00:19 (one year ago) link

Van rules in a similar way to how Pink Floyd rules. Like, when I sit down and try to isolate why they are great, it evaporates completely and I’m left with “aw, geez, I guess I’m wrong — I guess they suck after all.” But then I hear just about anything by them and I’m like, “What am I talking about? [Pink Floyd/Van Morrison] RULES.”

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 00:26 (one year ago) link

speaking of pink floyd and van morrison. doesn't wish you were here sound like the guitar intro of almost independence day? and the guitar tone is very similar, those are both fenders?

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:08 (one year ago) link

yes, i've always thought so too.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:40 (one year ago) link

Van rules in a similar way to how Pink Floyd rules. Like, when I sit down and try to isolate why they are great, it evaporates completely and I’m left with “aw, geez, I guess I’m wrong — I guess they suck after all.” But then I hear just about anything by them and I’m like, “What am I talking about? [Pink Floyd/Van Morrison] RULES."

Oddly enough, not so much when they're together tho...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpFo_E9Fq2k

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:44 (one year ago) link

I recently spent a commute trying to figure out which live version of "Wavelength" is most joyous.

The answer is Bottom Line 78. But the exercise was instructive, partly because he so rarely does anything the same way.

And I have def come to the conclusion that the trait that I am calling "joy" is most of what I seek from van. It's different from quality or chops or happiness or energy or intensity or soul or whatever. It's the incantatory Dionysian abandon.

mitt the hoopla (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 23:31 (one year ago) link

It’s always amazes me that so many joyous tunes can come from such a surly, grumpy guy.

that's not my post, Thursday, 23 May 2019 04:13 (one year ago) link

Xpost, I like that version of Comfortably Numb. It’s not particularly joyous of course.

that's not my post, Thursday, 23 May 2019 04:18 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GqszEwXPlc

new album three chords and the truth out 10/25. first album of all original compositions since keep me singing

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:09 (one year ago) link

new song is gorgeous

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:09 (one year ago) link

speaking of pink floyd and van morrison. doesn't wish you were here sound like the guitar intro of almost independence day?

And they both sound like Moonlight Mile.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:13 (one year ago) link

New song is lovely - the gentle huff and wheeze of a pair of bellows returning to rest.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:03 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Interview with Ted Templeman about co-producing Van in the mid-70s. Van being a mentor?

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8531986/ted-templeman-interview

that's not my post, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 05:05 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

new album stands up with all of his recent original work, really awesome

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 11 November 2019 00:48 (eleven months ago) link

That interview was great.

Last album was pretty good, will give this one a listen.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 November 2019 01:20 (eleven months ago) link

There was an interview with him in The Guardian recently. It didn't go well:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/31/a-duel-with-van-morrison-is-this-a-psychiatric-examination-it-sounds-like-one

"I look him in the eye and tell him that I am not trying to psychoanalyse him, that his music has simply meant more to me than any other throughout my life. There is something that moves across his face but I could not name it. 'Aehhh,' he breathes. "Well, shall we end it there?" I say, and stand and shake his hand. As I do I look at (his) notepad. In the top left hand corner he has drawn an angry rectangle."

I always wonder if interviewers treat interviews with notoriously stiff interviewees as a badge of honour, along the lines of Lester Bangs' series of interviews with Lou Reed. There's a comment on Mark Prindle's website to the effect that Lou Reed perked up if you mentioned pinball machines - he apparently had an encyclopaedic knowledge of pinball machines - and I wonder if Van Morrison has a secret hobby that is the key to building a rapport with it. Perhaps he is secretly an expert on Cookie Clicker, or the XCOM games, or perhaps he has a massive Transformers collection.

I can find no evidence on the internet that Van Morrison toured Japan in the late 1970s, around the time that Diaclone first came out, but Wavelength was popular and with the funds he amassed from that record he could easily have gone on a toy-buying spree. Wikipedia's article on that record contains the word "butt". I think the cover photographer was trying to make him look sexy, and amazingly it almost worked. I'm heterosexual, but I can appreciate why ladies might have found 1977-era Van Morrison attractive.

One of the comments on The Guardian's article mentioned an interview he did with Spike Milligan for Q magazine back in 1995:
http://www.raubenheimer.nl/spikevan.html

It's not much more illuminating, although they obviously got on together. "I can't mix my personal stuff with the job, so I just talk about my job. I'm not interested in selling myself, I just sell my records, my music. So I have to censor everything I say, 'cos if I don't, they just use it against me" he says.

The Guardian's inteviewer points out that two of his management team stayed in the room in order to ensure that everything remained on-message, and I wonder if they were scared he was going to blurt out something racist? He's in his seventies, old people are notoriously off-message.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:56 (eleven months ago) link

Also, who would have thought that a broken <br> tag in October 2001 would have made my words go small in 2019.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:58 (eleven months ago) link

he's never a good interview, i just think he's a very guarded person who also deeply dislikes all non-music-making aspects of the record business

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:31 (eleven months ago) link

nine months pass...

See you soon on the 'notably infected and/or fallen thread':

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/25/van-morrison-blasts-covid-gig-limits-pseudoscience

pomentiful (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 17:48 (one month ago) link

He don't pull no punches.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 17:56 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Inbox: "Van Morrison to release three new anti-lockdown protest songs". The lyrics are... 😟 pic.twitter.com/uLQhYTH2na

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Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:50 (one month ago) link

Even disregarding the message, that is a remarkably crude assortment of doggerel from the same guy that brought us Astral Weeks.

mirostones, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:58 (one month ago) link

Nobody, no, no, no, no, nobody stops me from loving you baby
So young and bold, fourteen-year old
Baby, baby, baby

indeed!

calzino, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:01 (one month ago) link

man’s a cunt, always has been

scampo italiano (gyac), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:04 (one month ago) link

ulster prod in backward opinion shocker

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:04 (one month ago) link

Ulster prods treated as generalised monolith on ilx shocker

Master of Treacle, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:18 (one month ago) link

King Billy was a cunt as well

scampo italiano (gyac), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:22 (one month ago) link

this is one of my favourite thread titles

mark s, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:45 (one month ago) link

Ulster prods treated as generalised monolith on ilx shocker

― Master of Treacle, Friday, September 18, 2020 11:18 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's tough at the top

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:52 (one month ago) link

he's just testing the water for his new album, 'a period of transmission'

kites aren't fun (NickB), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:55 (one month ago) link

I knew he was a curmudgeonly asshole, but didn't realize he was such a moron.

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Friday, 18 September 2020 19:24 (one month ago) link

yeah it blows

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 18 September 2020 19:24 (one month ago) link

If I ventured in the slipstream
Between the ventilator of your dreams
Where unworn mask rules retract
And the ditch into which I drop'd
Could you find me?
Would you close-a my eyes?
To lay me down
In silence easy
To be buried in
To be buried in

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Friday, 18 September 2020 20:48 (one month ago) link

No more celebrities telling us, telling us what we are supposed to feel

Take your own fucking hint, Ivan.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:53 (one month ago) link

Fuck me, those lyrics.

Duke, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:11 (one month ago) link

The new normal, is not normal

pomenitul, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:13 (one month ago) link

If memory serves, he complained about the plaque attached to the house he was born in, in Hyndford Street in Belfast. I've walked past it many times. A tiny plaque. Such a massive dick.

Duke, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:16 (one month ago) link

as i said itt or some other van thread, it boggles the mind how such a dick could have made such incredibly joyous music.

that's not my post, Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:27 (one month ago) link

i'm pretty sure van was into scientology at one point so this anti-science stupidity is maybe par for the course

that's not my post, Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:29 (one month ago) link

He was born a Jehovah's Witness.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 September 2020 03:19 (one month ago) link

He gave thanks to L Ron Hubbard on the liner notes of Inarticulate Speech of the Heart

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Saturday, 19 September 2020 03:26 (one month ago) link

No more celebrities telling us, telling us what we are supposed to feel

Van Morrison was ever thus:

Did you ever hear about the rock and roll singers
Got three or four Cadillacs
Saying power to the people, dance to the music
Want you to pat 'em on the back

Lily Dale, Saturday, 19 September 2020 03:44 (one month ago) link

greil marcus has a story about a dude who saw van morrison in a bar and got up the nerve to approach him to tell him how much his music had meant to him, and van's response was "why do people feel they have to tell me these things?"

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 19 September 2020 04:04 (one month ago) link

Well, I want to make love to you tonight
I can’t wait ’til the morning has come
but i can't cos you've got a facemask on
And that means you're a fake science drone

origami condom (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 September 2020 04:57 (one month ago) link

I can't remember if this was suggested in Clinton Heylin's bio or some other book, but does Morrison actually have a clinical psychological disorder?

Anyway, going back to his days in Them, he was known to turn into a complete asshole, and I got the impression it wasn't consistent - he would just enter these moods. You can kind of see this in his interviews of the past decade, where he becomes inexplicably hostile to some and very cheery open to others (for example, his last newspaper interview with an Irish reporter, where he's not only in good spirits, but is dutifully following social distancing and thorough handwashing).

birdistheword, Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:07 (one month ago) link

For what it's worth (nothing), my friend heard from someone who worked with him that he's on the autism spectrum.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:09 (one month ago) link

Oh yeah just picked up Hot Press last week cos it's a Van special.
Not looked at it much so had probably missed reference to the new material.
I love Them and think at least the early solo stuff is great.
Does this colour that stuff any more than any previous behaviour from him?

I thought he was brought up as Christian Scientist in a Prod area of Belfast. So probably head wrecked already.

Stevolende, Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:51 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

I had a dream last night that I was escorting Van around an identified British city (I think it was Winchester). He was dressed in the classic Dexy's dungarees and pheasant feathers get up and had a guitar slung across his back. He was most genial. That is my Van dream.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:18 (one week ago) link

He didn't mention vaccines once, thankfully.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 12 October 2020 20:19 (one week ago) link

A hip genial Van is alas only a dream

that's not my post, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 02:01 (one week ago) link


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