S/D: Oren Ambarchi (and projects)

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i'm interested in any recommendations beyond the major releases.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 March 2004 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

menstruation sisters "ma". like dna doing a set of fushitsusha covers.

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 11 March 2004 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

thats a S by the way.

john dale: "...Ma is a classic of unexpurgated all-out spastic sound-flail - an Australian equivalent to the wildness of Harry Pussy or Green Monkey"

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 11 March 2004 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

C: solo - Suspension, Stacte #1,2,3, Triste; in collaboration - Strange Love (with Günter Müller and Philip Samartzis), Oystered (with Voice Crack and GM), Afternoon Tea (oren and lotsa folks), Sun remixes (esp. Voice Crack's), Flypaper (with Keith Rowe)

D: Sun unremixed, Menstruation Sisters - how can anyone consider this anything but shit?, all Phlegm, the disc on Häpna with Andreas Berthling (possibly the most boring recording ever made)

echoinggrove, Thursday, 11 March 2004 06:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Menstruation Sisters - how can anyone consider this anything but shit?

a refined palate? a lack of common sense? i love it.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 11 March 2004 07:57 (fifteen years ago) link

didi anyone see the sbs mini doco? drawing on greek/jewish heritage? a wonderful thing.

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 11 March 2004 08:00 (fifteen years ago) link

this re ms of course.

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 11 March 2004 08:02 (fifteen years ago) link

who ARE you mullygrubber?
best oren: triste (killer), all stactes, suspension, insulation, keith rowe duo, and i love the berthling duo (though it is surely an acquired taste.)
a lot of oren's collaborative work is interesting for 'research purposes' (ie it's interesting to hear how he plays w/various folks.) i really enjoy the "thumb" disc on grob (w/rowe, avenaim, sachiko m, and otomo.)
the record most people miss - and it's an absolute classic - the ambarchi/avenaim 3"cdr duo "clockwork". fucking beautiful.
the sun album is quite nice, there's some new stuff out on textile, and they're working on a new record. and touring europe in a few weeks w/a great expanded sun line-up (martin siewert!)
menstruation sisters: nothing's topped 'ma' for me, though 'dead at slugs' and 'goog' are both quite good. never heard the triple 7".
i agree with eg about phlegm, those were pretty woeful records. i tend to write that off as oren's 'zorn era'.

jwd, Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Suspension is one of the most gorgeous albums I own. I should really get another of his.

original bgm, Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

completely agree about suspension

i want to hear this clockwork disc. where can i find it jwd?

tricky disco (disco stu), Thursday, 11 March 2004 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

forgot "Clockwork." good call, jwd - and good stuff. sounds like a mix of Harry Bertoia and Gamelan Son of Lion. more convincing than the other Ambarchi/Avenaim projects. it was self-released in '99 as a 3" cd-r, so it could be tough to track down now.

i'll add Oren's solo Mort aux Vaches ("Song of Separation") to my C:s, just because it's a lot more enjoyable on disc than it was live.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Thursday, 11 March 2004 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"strange love" on for4ears w/ gunter muller and philip samartzis is very nice drone improv w/ lots of surprises. and it somehow makes it sound like there are extra speakers behind my head in a way that nothing else does. really good.

dan (dan), Thursday, 11 March 2004 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

"strange love" does have the distinction of having some of the WORST artwork i have ever laid my eyes upon. gunter muller does not appear to have any concept of the words "GRAPHIC DESIGN". i guess he thought phil and oren might find the marsupials on the front cover 'cute'.
the mort aux vaches disc is great too - good call echoinggrove. "clockwork" would be pretty hard to track down, phil todd at betley welcomes careful drivers in the uk might have copies left.
if you get the chance to see oren do his thing live, JUST GO. truly stunning.

jwd, Friday, 12 March 2004 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

wow! weird synchronicity alert. i was just about to type i'm not anyone jon.

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 12 March 2004 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i kind of like the strange love packaging.

dan (dan), Friday, 12 March 2004 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

wow he is great.

'highway of diamonds' minus the last minute or so is a keeper. i've been mixing it into other tracks and it works really well.

jergins, Thursday, 26 June 2008 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

he also has the bestest set of myspace affilates i've ever seen. i wish they were my friends.

grapes from the estate is really great.

schlump, Thursday, 26 June 2008 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

New one is good

(Uptown Baby) (admrl), Friday, 24 February 2012 18:01 (seven years ago) link


Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Friday, 24 February 2012 18:04 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

yeah its excellent

Lamp, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:49 (seven years ago) link

is this the one with Thomas Brinkmann?

mmmm, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:53 (seven years ago) link

no 'audience of one' on touch

Lamp, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:55 (seven years ago) link

Ah, okay. I passed up buying Triste yesterday is that good? I love Brinkmann so I'm thinking about that one. Is 'Audience of One' quite droney?

mmmm, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:02 (seven years ago) link

i wouldnt say so, no. large parts of it are on youtube if youre curious

Lamp, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:03 (seven years ago) link

Triste is good, droney and monolithic. Audience of One takes some risks with his sound and i think pulls it off.

beta blog, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:12 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

'audience of one' is so so good. i think i need it and fennesz black sea on vinyl.

THEE-AH-TER (Matt P), Saturday, 6 October 2012 17:46 (seven years ago) link

i agree! about audience of one. love it. got the double vinyl in the mail the other day. i don't always love all his stuff. sometimes i just you know "respect" it or whatever. also got the power trio live thing in the mail with him on drums and o'malley sunnn((((((000000000000 guy on bass and haino on guitar. its okay. mostly for haino guitar solos.

scott seward, Saturday, 6 October 2012 17:55 (seven years ago) link

i always catch myself wondering why i don't order from forced exposure like all the time when i browse their site. they're so reasonable! but reasonable is the same as expensive if you're broke. i should uh plan ahead, like budget that shit out. they still have all the soundways lps in stock. *SIGH*

THEE-AH-TER (Matt P), Saturday, 6 October 2012 18:38 (seven years ago) link

I gather Audience of One is a departure from the pure-tone processed guitar stuff?

I'm just starting to get into last year's Imikuzushi with OA on drums, Haino on guitar, and Jim O'Rourke on bass.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 7 October 2012 04:02 (seven years ago) link

audience of one is a mix of sounds/styles. this is one of the more beautiful things i've heard in a while:


scott seward, Sunday, 7 October 2012 04:09 (seven years ago) link

it reminds me of BPB's 'careless love'.. just slightly. agreed it's nice

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 7 October 2012 07:02 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Audience of One may be the best thing he's done!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 November 2012 18:51 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

I just listened to this today: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17974-oren-ambarchi-keiji-haino-jim-orourke-now-while-its-still-warm-let-us-pour-in-all-the-mystery/

I think it's mostly great, much better imo than Imikuzushi, although maybe I'm something of a conservative/traditionalist for thinking so. I finally feel like their collaboration lives up to their combined talents. Their ideas are cohering into more clearly structured pieces, sometimes even songs with (really good) hooks and bass riffs and grooves. I love Haino's voice.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 23 June 2013 04:02 (six years ago) link

Btw, what's up with Pitchfork's numerical ratings. I don't think there's a critical word in that review, yet the album only gets a 7.7.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 23 June 2013 04:23 (six years ago) link

keep perspective, mane; one of the foremost experimental rock combos doesn't merit BNM, what would that do for the brand? :P

Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 23 June 2013 06:03 (six years ago) link

they kinda have a hierarchy / capping system in effect for genre work i think, sund4r

j., Sunday, 23 June 2013 06:10 (six years ago) link

album sounds amazing though

Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 23 June 2013 06:14 (six years ago) link

(as in it sounds like it would be amazing, not that I've actually heard it)

Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 23 June 2013 06:14 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

The 30 minute track on Audience of One reminds me a lot of Supersilent. I'm having trouble finding more messy jazz like this. Are there any other bands I can try?

crowhurst, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 16:25 (six years ago) link

might suggest burning star core, graveyards, close erase, humcrush, the "object" series records on locust records, selected circle records (infektio, arkades, tower), various rune grammofon releases, both the giovanni domenico/arve henriksen/tatsuhisa yamamoto releases, organum & eddie prevost "flayed", ashtray navigations, alice coltrane's "universal consciousness", the dead c. depends on whether you're after excoriant bedsit 4-track variants or the po-faced scandi fusion type, or the OG impulse records / miles "black beauty live @ fillmore west" / weather report "live in tokyo" varieties.

massaman gai, Thursday, 20 February 2014 08:38 (six years ago) link

Not sure what "excoriant bedsit" means, but i think it's more the scandi fusion type I am after.

Thanks for the recommendations. I will check these out.

crowhurst, Thursday, 20 February 2014 09:40 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

seemingly i've lost my disc of "suspension". just have an empty cover here. could somebody please tell me what the picture is on the backface of the disc so i know what i'm looking for? (brain says red /orange apples, like the cover, but that seems too easy an answer somehow)

massaman gai, Monday, 25 August 2014 13:44 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

New album Quixotism is very good. Strings, tablas, drummachine, small rhythmic differences. I like it.

Frederik B, Thursday, 30 October 2014 16:39 (five years ago) link

i still haven't found my disc of "suspension".
i think i gone done put it in the wrong box.
i'd be obliged if one of y'all generous folks could pop it out & be so kind as to tell me what the picture on the disc is.
it'd be mighty helpful to an old duffer !

massaman gai, Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:12 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Listening to Quixoticism for the first time. Gets off to a slow start (or maybe I was just feeling impatient) but really settles into something nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 16 November 2014 23:24 (five years ago) link

Er, Quixotism.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 16 November 2014 23:26 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

The new Nazoranai lp is another brilliant release, they have been on fire this year.

xelab, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 15:09 (five years ago) link

Yeah, that Nazorani is wonderful. I finally heard the Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi from earlier this year, Only Wanting to Melt Beautifully... and thought it was a little bit of a letdown by comparison (and compared to some of other recent ones from that trio).

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 15:31 (five years ago) link

Nice. Didn't know about this one.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 03:38 (five years ago) link

two months pass...


this new one with Haino and O'Rourke is good

Dinsdale, Saturday, 28 February 2015 21:27 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

well the first track on Hubris has some lovely Future Days qualities to it.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 15:44 (three years ago) link

The whole album is good, really.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 15:51 (three years ago) link

absolutely, only just got to the awesome 3rd track.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 15:58 (three years ago) link

album rules

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 15:59 (three years ago) link

I love how it in album cover, name and song titles seem like a followup to Quixotism. For a musician that does a shitload of projects, he is really good at making them seem as if they make sense.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 16:07 (three years ago) link

thanks for the heads up, this new one sounds awesome.

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 16:08 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

wow, hubris pt. 3 totally just blew me away. can anyone recommend something similar, by ambarchi or others?

sonderpop, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:37 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

i wish i could - it's really, really good

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:08 (one year ago) link

i am not very familiar with his work, but i've been giving myself a crash course because i'm going to see him play next weekend (https://lampo.org/archive/oren-ambarchi-2018/)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:09 (one year ago) link

new, in a not dissimilar vein


j., Sunday, 9 September 2018 06:19 (one year ago) link

ooh, thanks for that.
i'm excited to explore his discography because he seems to be a hub that connects to so many different kinds of musicians and kinds of music, not unlike brian eno.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 06:23 (one year ago) link

The Just Reproach, with John Tilbury, is one of my favorite recordings (of either artist)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 9 September 2018 15:38 (one year ago) link

everything Oren releases is fucking dope

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 September 2018 15:39 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

only just now listening for real… i didn't expect 'suez' would be so… wiggly

j., Wednesday, 21 November 2018 03:51 (one year ago) link

Where I first encountered him:

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 04:30 (one year ago) link

i don't know what it was but my first taste of this guy a decade back (?) really rubbed me the wrong way so i thought he was not my thing when actually he was exactly my thing, live and learn

j., Friday, 23 November 2018 02:06 (one year ago) link

Gee, I was completely oblivious to Set. Wonder if many other episodes are online... (XP)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 23 November 2018 06:18 (one year ago) link

one month passes...


+ jim o'rourke, from november

j., Tuesday, 25 December 2018 21:22 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...


Oren Ambarchi - guitars & whatnot
Cyro Baptista - percussion & voice

Recorded by Randall Dunn, Joerg Hiller, Iuri Oriente and Oren Ambarchi.
Edited by Joerg Hiller and Oren Ambarchi at Choose Studios, Berlin.
Mixed by Joe Talia and Oren Ambarchi at Good Mixture, Tokyo.
Cut by Rashad Becker at D&M, Berlin.
Executive Producers: Konrad Sprenger & Dick Wolf.
Photography by Traianos Pakioufakis.
Design by Lasse Marhaug.

After a trilogy of spectacular explorations of relentlessly driving rhythms – Sagittarian Domain (2012), Quixotism (2014) and Hubris (2016) – Simian Angel finds Oren Ambarchi renewing his focus on his singular approach to the electric guitar, returning in part to the spacious canvases of classic releases like Grapes from the Estate while also following his muse down previously unexplored byways.

j., Wednesday, 31 July 2019 00:46 (six months ago) link

His new album is very good (as usual).

stranded, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 07:52 (six months ago) link

Simian Angel? that's the one I'm currently on and it's very nice.

calzino, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 14:03 (six months ago) link

yeah it's fantastic!

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 14:33 (six months ago) link

that's what the thread revive is about! that's what we're talking about on the internet! the power of message boards!

j., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 14:53 (six months ago) link

hah! what do you ppl think of Eli Keszler? his latest ep Empire sort of reminds of this a little bit and he's someone who I've got into a few of his albums now and his shtick is growing on me.

calzino, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:43 (six months ago) link

“We Live in Pathetic Temporal Urgency,” that's a good title

j., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:46 (six months ago) link

huh evidently he was one of ambarchi's four million collaborators, i had missed that one on my last trawl for new releases


j., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:51 (six months ago) link

really liked eli keszler's stadium from last year, worked away at my subconscious

ogmor, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:52 (six months ago) link

yeah Stadium is well worth your time.

calzino, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:54 (six months ago) link

I saw Eli Keszler live at this year's Rewire Festival (The Hague) and it was and amazing experience. His last EP, Empire, is also worth hearing.

stranded, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 08:38 (six months ago) link

Really nice list of records. This was a great chat too: http://www.5049records.com/podcast/oren-ambarchi

EvR, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:13 (six months ago) link

always happy to see Dark To Themselves and Body Meta getting mentions.

calzino, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:17 (six months ago) link

16 minute video to palm sugar candy from the new album. there is something quite meditative and timeless about the music. somehow more than ambient not only because of the beats. a kind of soundtrack.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 10 August 2019 10:50 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

there are some (!) jim o'rourke records i've never listened to so i'm listening to them and, no big surprise i guess, oren ambarchi's 'rock' records sound like jim o'rourke's 'rock' records

j., Monday, 3 February 2020 02:19 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, Black Truffle finally has its own Bandcamp page.

EvR, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 12:15 (two weeks ago) link

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