ray russell live at the ICA

But then the retrospective (2nd CD), which I'm listening to as I type, is pretty straightforward for the most part, which is kind of unique, bcz he's the first guy I've heard who went to the 'other side' and then seemed to go back!!! I like it how it gets me to listen to other types of jazz, but the fact I put this on and then went to the compuetr to type this is prob a bad sign.

so anyway, what happened to ray after that?

I like Gary Windo's freaky sax playing on some of the RR stuff, and the studio version of 'Stained Angel Morning' is still a holy 'piece' of free-noize gtr wankery. Also Julio, I think yr idea of what constitutes 'straightforward' jazz mung is a bit diff from the mainstream jazzbo norm: the closest Russell ever really got to the jazz mainstream was playing w/ a late versh of the Gil Evans band (but then Evans always liked post-Hendrix/McLaughlin gtrists eg Abercrombie on that Gil's Jimi trib alb)

haha andrew nicely stated with the 'a bit diff' there, I guess you're right.

(the first CD actually has one extra track from the late 70s and the seond disc has one track from '68)

I guess the studio version of 'stained angel...' which you're referring to is the one with just ray and alan rushton on drums. yes that's my fave right now on the retrospective disc.

Have been listening to Dragon Hill a lot of late. Some nice playing by everyone involved, Russell is on subtly incendiary form. Anyone know how Rites & Rituals compares? And heck, what other Russell stuff should I be hunting down?

Also worth checking out is the Rock Workshop album from 1970 (which is a perennial in that record stall up by Goodge Street) which has Russell & various other improv luminaries and Alex Harvey on vocals deconstructing "Wade On The Water" and other standards. It's like Later with Jools Holland disrupted hy the Globe Unity Orchestra.

And then in '76 Russell did the music for Rock Follies!

Secret Asylum, holy shit. Is this the same Ray Russell that does the library records?? I'm guessing not, but if so... woah 'n that!

I don't know about him doing library records, but it's the sort of thing he's likely to have done (a guy's gotta eat), so, yeah, probably the same guy

Library records are fine with me. I doubt they're anything like the free stuff on Secret Asylum though. Mostly Bruton, from the ones I've seen.

And what's the deal with Gary Windo? I've seen his name around.... maybe on a Bill Fay album?? I see he did a track called Shepp Heard. Obviously a reeeeeal joker.

See Marcello discussing Bill Fay upthread. Gary Windo also on some Robert Wyatt stuff.

There's a recording of him with Nucleus on the Live in Bremen set from 1971. I think he only played the one tour with them since Chris Spedding had just left, is that when he started playing with Pete Brown?
Anyway the cd's in the 2014 rermegacorp sale for £5. Hoping I have a copy coming.

Ray Russell on Antiques Roadshow right now, with a fretless guitar once owned by George Harrison... worth up to £400,000!

.. given to him by George Harrison.

from the Gil Evans thread:
Playing this one in the office this AM,
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gil-Evans-Orchestra-Feat-George-Adams-Little-Wing-/release/6058355

Really fantastic and fun... I need to dig into Gil quite a bit more than I have thus far.

― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, January 31, 2020 12:26 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh yeah, and that reminds me, always liked The British Orchestra, with Ray Russell soloing on "Little Wing," and a lot of other UK musos I hadn't heard---story of that British tour, also subsequent DVD of Gil w Russell's group at Montreux! https://stuartnicholson.uk/gil-evans-the-british-orchestra-classic-modern-albums/

― dow, Friday, January 31, 2020 4:45 PM

The reporting of this has been very coy about using Ray Russell's name - I assume on instruction. Also typical of the BBC not to release the full clip.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/01/guitar-owned-john-lennon-george-harrison-valued-400k-antiques-roadshow-12329290/