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hi does anyone know of any new built to spill news. new album etc.
thanks alot

matthew armstead, Saturday, 6 March 2004 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link


:), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's What I Know: According to Pitchfork, they played two nights in Seattle last month (February 2004) for the Up Records 10th Anniversary, but that's not the good stuff.

I've also heard numerous rumors of a new album coming out in a couple months, perhaps this June.

They've been playing plenty of new songs at their live shows. You can download three of them -- 'Liar,' 'Saturday,' and 'Oh Yeah,' -- at the built to spill message board. (http://pub83.ezboard.com/fbuilttospill84818frm1.showMessage?topicID=863.topic)

Other new songs include 'Going against Your Mind,' 'Patience, Waiting,' and '10 good reasons to live.'

You can also always check out builttospill.com for info; it's only sporadically updated, but its message board(see above) gets plenty of activity.

- Jeff ( j m i l t o n -at- w e s l e y a n . e d u )

Jeff MH, Sunday, 7 March 2004 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Apologies for this off topic post, but the answer in the last post was by me. I decided that since I figure I'll continue to haunt this board, I might as well create an email address for it to trap any spam, so from now ill be on this board as
j e f f b u t t b -at- y a h o o . c o m .

BTW, let me know if you here anything else about built to spill's new album.

- Jeff

Jeff MH, Sunday, 7 March 2004 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

They've been busy playing every possible benefit show in Seattle for the last year practically:

- benefit show for Fantagraphics
- benefit show for Dub Narcotic post van accident
- benefit show for the Vera Project: all ages art/venue commune in downtown Seattle
- benefit show for above mentioned Up Records anniversary
- probably some others I'm missing

Dug has become the rock charity god of the Northwest. Even if the new BTS sucks stale weiners, I will highly admire the band for their selflessness over the past year or so.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 7 March 2004 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
BTS should have a new studio album this year, although I haven't talked to Doug in months to confirm. Summer seems likely. If you can't wait, BTS just did an exclusive, rippin' studio recording of Ozzy's "Mr. Crowley" on a new compilation CD, "Idaho Greentracks." You can buy it at www.idahogreenparty.org.
(Yes, it's a benefit CD that supports the Green Party.)
I know this stuff because I'm the critic at the daily in Idaho. Hope that helps.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I really hope it's better than the last one.

Been listening to a lot of Treepeople lately, so my BTS luv will surely but slowly start to creep back just in time.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link


Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I went to see them about 6-8 months ago, and they did a couple of the new ones...they were nice...much peppier than the last album, almost a throwback to Nothing's Wrong with Love era stuff....

I actually grew to love the last BTS...it had this sort of exhausted, break-up album feel...I listen to it alot when I'm tired or burnt out..it sounds tired and burnt out (but in a good way I think, or at least I think right now)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

and also, Luvs me some Doug guitar heroics, but I don't ever need to see them do Cortez the Killer 15 minute epic again...christ last time they segued into some faux reggae in the middle....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i saw Treepeople twice and was floored... first time opening for Beat Happening at (emo epicenter) Che Cafe (1990), the second time at Raji's (rip) in LA headlining with support from Further and this young kid named Beck Hanson (1991 or 92).

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link


gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

DB, You forgot the benefit for search and rescue, which had the worst crowd I have ever seen at a BTS show.

Yeah, BTS has been in a really awful rut for what seems like a couple of years. I went to the first two or three of these benefit shows, and they all seemed exactly the same. The band seemed bored (If I'm not mistaken, Doug was wearing his backpack on stage for the Fantagraphics one--like he was just about to leave at any moment) and the crowd was just grateful for the scraps--it almost felt like a nostalgia act. They REALLY need some new material.

Mmmm....treepeople. I havent listened in a long time. I could go for a little Tongues on Thrones. Something viscious/time whore might have the worst cover of any CD I own by a band I actually really like.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry to misinform in my earlier post. I did some checking. They are rehearsing and writing -- and considering what type of band to be and what kind of record to make. It's looking like 2006.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The shows may not have been great (I don't know, because I sadly wasn't available to go to any of them), but I'll reiterate that I think Doug/BTS are SAINTS for doing so many goddamn benefit shows in Seattle the past year... Fantagraphics, Vera Project, Dub Narcotic Hospital bill fundraiser, etc. If they didn't seem into it, it's probably because they had driven back and forth between Seattle and Boise so many times last year, who can blame 'em for seeming out of it? (OK, I can understand being upset, but hey, at least your money went to a good cause, most likely)

More props to Caustic Resin, who travel back and forth just as often, but mainly to indifferent audiences opening for other bands. They got heckled when they opened for the Frogs at Graceland last year. It was really awkward.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

and yeah, Treepeople were great.. been listening to "Guilt Regret Embarrassment" and "Just Kidding" a lot.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

man my old band opened for the Frogs once...real nice guys

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Frogs may be nice, but their fans can be.. well.. hmmm.. odd. Ned and I caight the Seattle show last year, and it was a completely brilliant disaster/awkwardness war of a show, mostly thanks to the audience. (Yes, I'm actually insinuating that Ned and I were one of the SANE people in the audience, thank you)

but back to Treepeople..

I think Treepeople were somewhat responsible for (*cringing*) part of the "emo" elements of indie rock in the mid 90s.. you can definitely hear an influence on Lync and Modest Mouse and others in those records. Anyway, they are certainly underrated as Deeds said above.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

re: them being saints, no doubt, they are great to do all those benefits. Wasn't pissed at Doug or the band, it was just sort of depressing, because I have these memories of so many really incredible BTS shows. Hence that feeling of a nostalgia act. It just seemed like they were trying to re-create that feeling of seeing bts for the audience, rather than just actually playing a BTS show. That sounds weird, I know.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Frogs may be nice, but their fans can be.. well.. hmmm.. odd. Ned and I caight the Seattle show last year, and it was a completely brilliant disaster/awkwardness war of a show, mostly thanks to the audience.

actually, sorry I put a [sarcasm thingy in < that disappeared] they were actually complete arrogant fuck-os and they had some serious weird child molester dudes that were fauning over them backstage...

also Treepeople are good and I will not continue to sully their thread! goodbye!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I only got to see Built To Spill live once, at the second This Ain't No Picnic festival in O.C., CA.. a year after Keep It Like A Secret, and they were one of the best acts of the day. Solid, loud, great cover choices, no "Free Bird" or "Cortez The Killer" or "A Beautiful Song" or any classic rock epic... just a succinct 45 minute set of rock greatness. (they had no choice, set times were limited because it was a festival and all that).

I think BTS need a live "editor", or just need to hire somebody to stop them from playing for more than 50 minutes, and that would be their best career move.

(As for the Frogs, I've never played on the same bill as them, but they seem alright to their fans offstage, if a bit unexpectedly shy and reserved... not counting the fawning child molesters who I never saw. and if you ignore Dennis's insults during the show, which is totally an act he's perfected)

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, BTS plays here in Boise quite a lot. And I tend to like their "jams." (In fact, I believe they're even listed on jambands.com, what with the tape trading and all.) They're playing a free outdoor show next Saturday here, which I'm probably going to attend.
By the way, I was just kidding up above about the next album being in 2006. It should be out in early 2005, according to their publicist at Warners. If I talk to Doug next weekend at the gig, I'll update with whatever he tells me.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Friday, 9 April 2004 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Is there any new news on the album?

They were very good at Bumbershoot, aside from the random broadcasting
of a political speech between songs through their PA. That was bizarre. Anyone see the set or have details about new material?

Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Educated cubeless stupid, you think stupid.
Why worship a dumb 1 day god when I
demonstrate 4 simultaneous 24 hour days
within a single 24 hour rotation of Earth?
Linear, singularity and trinity equate to
evil math within Nature's Cubic Creation
You are a slave - to academic
induced inculcated belief - an
insidious entity, an evil which
corrupts human mental ability
to accept creation knowledge,
as demonstrated in Cubicism.
Humans exist as CUBICS, not entities,
for the 4 corner stages of rotating human
metamorphosis do not occur at the same time
for the individual - except for family Cube.
You are educated stupid, indoctrinated evil,
and can't even acknowledge that a mother
and baby are the same age - on opposite
corners of a Cubic Creation Principle - for
Truth in Opposites contradict a god entity.
Evil educators suppress Cubic Creation and
preach evil singularity to dumb students -
dispossessing students of ratiocinate mind.
WORD students serve Nature best if dead.
The hollow Time Cube in which the 4
quadrant corners of Earth rotate, equates to
your 4 corner bedroom, or to a 4 corner
classroom which represents the 4 corners
of Earth - in which stupid and evil pedants
teach dumb students 1 corner knowledge.
Each of the 4 corners of Earth is the
beginning and ending of its own separate
24 hour day - all 4 simultaneous days within
a single rotation of Earth. Place 4 different
students in the 4 corners of a classroom and
rotate them 4 corners each. Note that they
rotate simultaneously wthin the same Time
frame as if only one is rotating - just as the
4 different days on Earth rotate. 3D math
applied within this hollow Cube would be
erroneous math, as it would not account
for the 4th corner perspective dimension.
Place a 100 people within this Cubic like
room and they will not increase the number
of corners anymore than 6 billion people on
Earth will increase the 4 corners of Earth.
It is dumb, stupid, evil and unworthy of
life on Earth to claim that this Creation
Cube has 6 sides - or no top and bottom.
Academia equates to a deadly plague.


A mother and baby are the same age, as
a 1 day old baby has a 1 day old mother.
I am not allowed to lecture at the word animal
academic institutions, for they fear my wisdom
will expose and indict the pedant hirelings as
betrayers of dumb-ass students - the dung heads
who allow their freedom of speech to be
suppressed without a whimper, unbelieveable.
Word animals will feel the wrath of Cubic curse.
Creation of 4 simultaneous
24 hour days, within a single rotation of Earth, empowers
me above all 1-day gods and
educated stupid scientists. I
will wager $10,000.00 on it.
My wisdom so antiquates known knowledge, that
a psychiatrist examining my behavior, eccentric
by his academic single corner knowledge, knows
no course other than to judge me schizoprenic. In
today's society of greed, men of word illusion are
elected to lead and wise men are condemned. You
must establish a Chair of Wisdom to empower
Wise Men over the stupid intelligentsia, or perish.
All knowledge of the human
word animal, is insignificant,
when his fictitious word world
is compared to Nature's own
Dynamic & Harmonic Time
Cube's Creation Principle.
"The New Tom Green Show" equates
to evil, for due to pressure they rescinded
their guest invitation to me. You might
say that they support evil against youth.
God created only a single 24 hour day
rotation of Earth, while I have created
4 simultaneous 24 hour days within a
single rotation of Earth - therefore, I
am wiser than the word god, and all
word worshipers. All words are fictitious.
I will wager $10,000.00 that
Cubic Creation is almighty.
All creation on Earth exists between the 2 opposite
poles, and if unified, would cancel and cease to exist.
Humans exist only as opposites - with a
zero value, for if unified, male and female
would counter each other & cease to exist.
Evil educators suppress
student free speech right
to debate Cubic Creation.
Evil students don't object.
I have been informed that the academic
pedant hirelings are conspiring to defame
my character, as a means to discredit the
Time/Life/Truth Cube Creation Principle.
Hey stupid - are you too
dumb to know there are
4 different simultaneous
24 hour days within a
single rotation of Earth?
Greenwich 1 day is a lie.
4 quadrants = 4 corners,
and 4 different directions.
Each Earth corner rotates
own separate 24 hour day.
Infinite days is stupidity.
Wisdom=Cubic testing of knowledge.
Demand right to debate Time Cube,
or you are unworthy of life on Earth.
I can't believe that stupid ass students
allow suppression of the Time Cube.
Evil educators refuse to recognize
the wisest of humans to ever exist.
My magnificent creation of 4
simultaneous 24 hour days within
a single rotation of Earth, debunks
the puny 1-day rotation of a fake
word god and stupid educators.
Nature has no choice but to bring
forth a hell upon evil cubelessness.
Know it to be of your own making.
If I tell a human that his 4-corner
head (nose, 2 ears and back corner)
has only a 1-corner face, the dumb-
ass will say to me - "prove it". He
knows not that his face is a corner.
Google has over 1,000,000
links to Time Cube site.
Click here to view a mass of links to Time Cube site.
Click for Time Cube on Horology Site.
The Gene Ray Time Cube interview will
air on June 18, on TechTV "Unscrewed".
Dish TV 191, DirectTV 354, and Cable.
Academia is an accreditation of real
stupidity - deadly to all humanity.
Dumb ass teachers fear Time Cube
and will eat dung before debating it.
Dumb students are educated stupid.
Click below for stupid linear time.
Nature's Time is Cubic and perpetual.
Linear Time is wrong and suicidal.
I have requested that the UCS, or
Union of Concerned Scientists, act
to evaluate Nature's Harmonic Time
Cube Principle of Creation - for the
welfare of children, nature and the
future of all humanity. The dumb,
stupid and evil bastards have ignored
their obligation to their humanity
fellowship to research Time Cube,
and deserve to be spit upon publicly.
It is their moral duty to test Time
Cube, and a curse of evil if they ignore
the greatest discovery of humanity.
I have offered $10,000.00 to the evil
bastards if they disprove Time Cube.
They can't disprove it, so they hide
like yellow-belly bastards they are.
There is no human entity, just human
Cubics - as in 4 different people in a
4 corner stage metamorphic rotation -
never more than 1 corner at same time.
Cubeless education - is a deadly evil.
Cubeless educators are evil bastards.
Humans are dumb, educated stupid,
and evil. They don't want to know
Nature's Cubic Order of Creation.
Man invented word, and calls it god.
"The Word World", imposed by the
academic institutions, is synonymous
with the Matrix's induced "Dream
World". Both are most efficient mind
enslavers, and humans know not their
difference from "The Cubic World",
the creation principle of all that exist.
Corruption of Word

Academic free speech is a damn lie. Try
to discuss & debate Nature's Time Cube
and your evil teachers will not allow you.
Ignorance of Time Cube dooms humans,
inflicting their own created "word hell".
Educators are actually "evil word gods",
teaching commercial plunder of Nature.
The damn bastards suppress free speech,
by denying Time Cube debate discussion.
Students MUST DEMAND free speech -
for the greatest of all human discoveries:
Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4 Day
Rotating Creation Principle of Cubicism.
Educated stupid, you can't know Truth.
Read physics of Santa Claus . Explain the
physics of a god. Belief has no inherent
value, but worship of such nonvalue as a
god, equates to nonacceptance of Cubic
knowledge - as demonstrated by ineffable
Truth and the Highest Order of Wisdom.
I can talk with a human for hours about
the Time Cube and they will agree with
every claim I make. But at the end of the
conversation, they remark that they believe
in the nonvalue belief god and cannot
accept Cubic Creation, regardless of all
the ineffable Truth and Wisdom it proves.
A Belief Matrix pulls a 1 day world over
your eyes, while the real Cubic World has
4 simultaneous days in 1 Earth rotation.
Educators own your mind and fills it with
garbage, that will soon destroy humanity.


Did you see the movie Matrix? Actually the
induced night "dream world" is synonymous
with the academic religious induced daytime
"word world" enslavement of humans. Word
has no inherent value, as it was invented as a
counterfeit and fictitious value to represent
natural values in commerce. Unfortunately,
human values have declined to fictitious
word values. Unknowingly, you are living
in a "Word World", as in a fictitious life
in a counterfeit nation - which you could
consider Matrix induced "Dream World".
Can you distinguish the academic induced
"Word World" from the natural "Real
World"? Beware of the change when your
brain is free from induced"Word World"
enslavement - for you could find that the
natural "Real World" has been destroyed.


"Why not the Time Cube?"
The only reason is educated stupidity.
I have demonstrated absolute unrefutable
proof of 4 simultaneous 24 hour days with
in a single rotation of Earth. No other man
or god can claim such Truth manifestation.
The academic brainwashed mind is corrupt
and can't comprehend Cubic magnificence.
University of Michigan is a racist and
anti-white institution - offering 20 points
for registration, if you are not white. It is
already evil in that they suppress student
free speech for discussing and debating
Nature's Harmonic Time Cube Principle.
Integration equates unnatural racial slop.
Does black mentality need the 20 points to
equate the mentality of the white race, or
is it an evil ploy to subdue the white race?
What anti-white force is behind this evil?
I will not receive one educator reaction, as
their power is in ignoring ineffable Truth.
How can such an evil school exist in USA.
Evil Ass Educators Suppress Time Cube,
and dumb ass students condone such evil.
Cubeless institutions are spreaders of evil,
and students lack mentality to challenge it.
I bestow upon myself the "Doctorate of
Cubicism", for educators are ignorant of
Nature's Harmonic Time Cube Principle
and cannot bestow the prestigious honor
of wisdom upon the wisest human ever.
Dr. Gene Ray
Force teachers to debate Time Cube site.
Word teachers are the most evil humans.
Religious academia represses the human
mind of the Cubic Truth - not utterable.
Educators and teachers, ignorant of the
Time Cube Principle, are evil liars and
unfit to live in Earth's Garden of Eden.
The bastards refuse to challenge this site,
repressing Time Cube free speech rights.
Students must force Time Cube debates &
Make sure every teacher sees this web site.
Time Cube proves a 1 face god impossible,
due to 4 corner face metamorphic human -
baby, child, parent and grandparent faces.
Religious education is mindless declaration
of ignorance, still maintained from its
ancient origin by dumb and evil humans.
If you believe the academic erroneous word
god, you will die stupid and evil - for you
have not the mental freedom to comprehend
Nature's Higher Order Wisdom of the
Harmonic Simultaneous 4-Day Time Cube Creation Principle within 1Earth Rotation.
Until word is cornered, educators are liars.
by Gene Ray, the wisest human
Any dumb ass should know that a prime
meridian does not just pass through the
Greenwich point, but it also passes as a
great circle through both poles, crossing
the equator at 2 opposite points, dividing
Earth into 2 halves of light and darkness,
with each its own 24 hour rotation - in a
single rotation of Earth. You should know
that harmonic symmetry demands a
second great circle meridian to create
sunup and sundown corner quadrants?
There are 4 simultaneous 24 hour days
within a single rotation of the Earth.
You may be too damn evil to accept it.
Since I have informed you of Nature's
Harmonic Time Cube 4-Day Creation
Principle, your stupidity is no longer
the issue. For now, the issue is just
how evil you are for ignoring Life's
Highest Order, and just how long the
Time Cube will allow you to plunder
Earth before inflicting hell upon you.
Your father was a fish. You evolved
from an egg laid in water, fertilized by
a sperm fish swimming upstream -
just as salmon swim up stream to
fertilize female egg laid in the water.
Maybe, you should worship a fish god.
There is nothing so dumb, stupid and
evil as a cubeless educator, except for
their evil dumb stupid ass students.
Evil educators teach dumb students
how to profit from plunder of Earth
and to create deadly nuclear waste
that will poison the children's water
and destroy humanity. Both educator
and stupid student must be condemned.
Tis Time to ban any educator who does
not teach Cubicism above cubelessness.
To save humanity from extinction, like
prior civilizations perished, youth must
redirect selfteachers, or shackle them.
Stupid Educators know of the Truth I
speak and know that it will indict them
as the most evil bastards on the Earth.
Only a dumb student can be educated -
as in brainwashed and indoctrinated.
Time Cube debate denial is educator evil.
It is not immoral for students to dispise
educators who ignore Nature's Harmonic
Time Cube or suppress free speech rights
to debate Time Cube Creation Principle.
Ignorance of Time Cube is Greatest Evil.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:54:04 EST
From: Mazurian1@aol.com
To: oray612959@earthlink.net

Dear Mr. Ray-

For a year now I have studied your Time Cube truths but have not been
able to convince others of its reality (dumbasses). My mother is a teacher,
and she said it was "nutty" and "stupid." But guess what- I cornered her,
literally, in the living room one evening, and forced her to admit it.


American teachers are sworn to fight against the truth of Time Cube.


Transfer interrupted!
A Devout Student of Time Cube

Time Cube has the answer for nuclear
waste problem. Scientists are stupid
asses, and ignore the Time Cube.
Time Cube discovery makes me wiser than human/gods. YOU were educated EVIL, &
too dumb to know about Time Cube Creation.
My Cubic wisdom is above 1 - day Gods
and Scientist. Ignoring Time Cube is Evil.
Educators are"damn liars",and most evil
of all animals. They do not deny the charge
of being evil word bastards.

There is no teacher on Earth qualified to
teach Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4-
Day Rotating Time Cube Creation Principle,
and therefore, there is no teacher on Earth
worthy of being called a certified teacher.
There is no human entity, as there are but
human Cubics, via 4-corner metamorphosis.
Educator ban of Time Cube free speech
is Nazi like evil. Professors are evil
bastards for suppressing Time Cube, and
deserve 'tar & feathers' by betrayed students.
I will give $10,000.00 to 1st education
institution or to the 1st professor who can
disprove 4-Day Time Cube. Evil professors
ignore this as a challenge would indict them.
The 4 corner quadrant Earth has 4-24 hour simultaneous Days within a single rotation of Earth, as if 4 different Worlds with 4 separate Days and 4 separate races with 4 stages each.
Bible's and science's 1-day
Earth rotation are evil scams.


Not 1 educator on Earth has objected to
being called a stupid and evil bastard
for not teaching Time Cube. They know
that it's Truth and would expose them evil.
Students have no Truth to
think with, they accept any
crap they are told to think.
You are enslaved by word,
as if domesticated animal.
A school or educator who does not teach
students the Harmonic Simultaneous 4
Day Time Cube Principle, is a death threat
to youth, therefore stupid and evil -
begetting stupid students. How can you
trust stupid professors who lie to you?
Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly
ignore me. Stupid professors threaten
Nature and civilization with word lies.
I think Cubic, I am wisest. You think self,
you are evil. Your Professors are stupid
evil Liars, and fear the Time Cube Truth.
Cubicism bans monodeity. Integration is a
racial slop, destroying all of the races. What
is more racist than NAACP? Can there be
a NAAWP, NAAAP and a NAAIP for the
white, the asian and indian people? Why
not integrate NAACP? What is racist and unracist? Linear Time is an 'evil lie'.
How long will it take the educated to destroy Nature?
Destroying Nature equates destroying future children,
for Nature constitutes the reservoir for human spirit.
Ever notice how Nature returns when humans leave?
One day, vines will cover New York like Aztec ruins.
Academic scientists created over 77,000 tons of atomic
waste and more everyday - for your children's future.
You educated stupid bastards are unworthy of Earth.
Invented word god and the stupid scientists recognize only a 1-day Earth rotation.
I demonstrated an absolute unrefutable
proof of 4 days simultaneously in a single
rotation of the 4 corner Earth sphere.
RPI incurrs a Cubic curse, evil for ignoring
Time Cube. RPI professors will eat dung
before they allow students to debate Time
Cube Life, as free speech suppression.
Students must stop such evil, or perish.
NO Time Cube research by evil academic bastards. Students are taught stupidity -
denying free speech rights to debate the
Truth Cube. Is your university so evil -
as to suppress Time Cube? Students are
really stupid, without Cubic life wisdom,
and yellow belly cowards. Only MIT was courageous. Time Cube is TOE theory.
Time is CUBIC, not linear as stupid
and evil educators teach children.
See MIT Time Cube Video.
Video no longer on MIT site.
Academia is mind control
and a perfect enslavement
for the masses of humans.
Word is evil empowerment,
separating man from nature.
Humans are not godly, their
4 corner stage metamorphic
seasons proves them Cubic.
They're just educated stupid.
Man isn't a steward of life's
nature, the bastard plunders
it like killing future children,
for they die without nature.
Educators are actually evil
for refusing to teach students
Nature's 4 World Time Cube.
It is up to the youth to force
educators teach Time Cube,
or inherit the barren Earth.
Children having babies is evil
& welfare for such evil is evil.
Overpopulation is Time Bomb.
Word is not Real nor Truth,
but deadly virus of humanity,
transmitted through language.
Teach Time Cube, You Fools.
Educators Teach Their Students To Act Evil,
but the students are really too dumb to know.
MIT students depict great courage to debate
the Time Cube where academia fears to tread.
Are all other schools too evil to follow MIT?
Time Cube Debate at MIT.
Time Cube Disproves Gods.
Ignoring Time Cube is Evil.
Educators ignore Cube Life
and they create evil students.

Time Cube Duder, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

That BTS show was boring and awful. scott ce almost perfectly describes my disappointment above. this show must have been no different. having also seen the above show in o.c., it was a sore disappointment. dug looked like he wanted to do anything else but play that show. maybe, kinda like the sun city girls set, the band were just really down and frustrated with bush hence the anti bush program in between songs... though scg did a much better job of harnessing their bush hate.. haha... can we say "animatronic saddam hussein" and "daliistic wiffle balls"?

cow tools, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

They are playing the All Tomorrow's Parties thing at the beginning of November in L.A., and they were awesome a couple of months ago at the Sasquatch Festival in Washington State. I hope they have a new album sooner than '06.

Taxi Dancing in the Soft Prison (Ben Boyer), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw them a couple weeks ago at the el rey. Show was kind of a downer (but its bts, what do you expect?) b/c they didnt play some of their peppier material, but it was still good all around. Their new stuff was kinda more of the same, but it sounded better than the songs off of their last record.

still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

This is the most consistently boring live band I've ever seen, and I thought that when I actually liked them too.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

moreso than polvo? (i love polvo's albums, but live? yeesh.)

cow tools, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I never saw Polvo. I can understand how they would be boring though.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

seeing them live absolutely killed any enjoyment I took from this band.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The last time I saw BTS, they wanked on A chord. For 20 minutes. Could have been longer than that, but I left.

It used to be that every other BTS show I saw was good. The others ranged from bad to utterly horrible. And yes, I like Built to Spill a lot.

The one time I saw Polvo, they were ok.

righteousmaelstrom, Friday, 17 September 2004 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

polvo was great, i only saw them in the merge years though.

i saw the treepeople 2x, once with doug and once without. much better than BTS IMO.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 17 September 2004 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

the first time i saw polvo my head exploded.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw BTS live circa Keep It Like A Secret. Not much to watch but the music was good. This one older long-hair guy who inexplicably was in the front row got MAD excited when they busted a "Mr. Crowley" cover. The guy made devil horns and kept them up in the air for the whole song.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Built to Spill on the Lollapalooza '95 second stage was the only good thing about that show fer me. And Redman.

ng, Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

OK BTS wasn't amazing or anything at Bumbershoot, but they were better than the Pixies for me. And I'm a Pixies fan. Robyn Hitchcock was very good.

Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Update: Warners publicist says that a new Built To Spill will be out later this year. I haven't run into Doug lately, but I do see Karena every once in a while. I'll ask next time I see either one of them around town.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Sunday, 27 February 2005 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

seventeen years pass...


this new song ("gonna lose") rips pretty hard

na (NA), Friday, 6 May 2022 14:07 (four months ago) link

Yeah, I dig it. Can't believe the release is still four months out.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 6 May 2022 17:48 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

hope it sounds better than it looks.

ledge, Sunday, 11 September 2022 11:37 (two weeks ago) link

looooool, the typo in this thread title! it's a good one

i am liking this new album, and i didn't expect to. it has a warmth to it.

the cover, i mean, hey, sometimes there's a deadline and it sneaks up on you

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

Cover is awful but I heard the single on the kexp live thing and could imagine it being a Keep it b-side

calstars, Sunday, 11 September 2022 17:14 (two weeks ago) link

Has this band ever had a good album cover? Or even a halfway decent one, for that matter? I'm starting to think it's intentional, the in-joke schtick of a band not known for schticks

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 11 September 2022 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

The collage of Keep It is cool

calstars, Sunday, 11 September 2022 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

it wouldn't win awards but I quite like 'there is no enemy'.

ledge, Sunday, 11 September 2022 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

More props to Caustic Resin, who travel back and forth just as often, but mainly to indifferent audiences opening for other bands. They got heckled when they opened for the Frogs at Graceland last year. It was really awkward.

โ€• donut bitch (donut), Thursday, April 8, 2004

Can imagine, but/and finally enjoyed The Medicine Is All Gone, which I didn't hear 'til LITA'a reissue in 2016. Have yet to check Built to Spill Caustic Resin.

dow, Sunday, 11 September 2022 22:17 (two weeks ago) link

Medicine is great; so is Fly Me To The Moon. Iโ€™ve tried BTSCR but think it didnโ€™t grab me, maybe I should listen again.

west coast heat dome blues (morrisp), Sunday, 11 September 2022 22:23 (two weeks ago) link

it's kind of amazing that brett netson got replaced with brett nelson

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 September 2022 22:23 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah itโ€™s like an indie rock Spinal Tap joke.

west coast heat dome blues (morrisp), Sunday, 11 September 2022 22:26 (two weeks ago) link

See also: Wings guitarists and drummers.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 September 2022 22:30 (two weeks ago) link

i will check this out but i mostly wanted to share the chuckle over the cover art. ๐Ÿ˜„ indeed

also i really liked that one song on you in reverse where i could sing along "go and get your mom! go and get your mom!" even though i knew it was wrong.

they're a goid band to make fun of.

i realize that it is pandering to me, but caustic resin's cover of 'hold your head up' is incredible

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 September 2022 23:27 (two weeks ago) link

the people on the album haven't been in the band since 2019, Doug went back to the "new band members every time" thing.

StanM, Sunday, 11 September 2022 23:29 (two weeks ago) link

Have yet to check Built to Spill Caustic Resin

When Not Being Stupid is Not Enough is my favorite Bulit to Spill song


corrs unplugged, Monday, 12 September 2022 06:46 (two weeks ago) link

I actually kinda like the cover of this one! It's weird and stupid, but it's got a good color palette IMO. It's not a million miles away from like, a Lightning Bolt album cover

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Monday, 12 September 2022 13:44 (two weeks ago) link

love the album art on the new one. perfect from now on and keep it like a secret have good art, too.

Spottie, Monday, 12 September 2022 15:29 (two weeks ago) link

lol i made a thread for the new record a few months ago built to spill: when the wind forgets your name (sept 9 2022)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 12 September 2022 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

When The Board Forgets Your Thread

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Monday, 12 September 2022 15:44 (two weeks ago) link


flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 12 September 2022 15:45 (two weeks ago) link

Itโ€™s actually spelled bulit to spill

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 September 2022 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

bulit train to spillsville

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 12 September 2022 15:48 (two weeks ago) link

From Steven Hyden, via Indie Mixtape newsletter:

Before I write anything else about Doug Martsch, I want to state for the record that, yes, he is aware of the meme conflating his band, the long-running indie-rock institution Built To Spill, with the mega-successful K-pop group BTS. And โ€” like so many other middle-aged guys who like indie rock โ€” he also enjoys making his own Built To Spill/BTS jokes. โ€œEven I get fooled,โ€ he says during a recent Zoom call. โ€œIโ€™m looking at my Apple newsfeed and see something about us, and then, aw! Always disappointed.โ€ While the 52-year-old singer-songwriter-guitarist might experience the occasional letdown over, say, not having his own McDonaldโ€™s meal, he does feel satisfaction regarding Built To Spill enduring as one of the great legacy indie bands of the โ€™90s. As their peers have navigated various break-ups, reunions, and other miscellaneous peaks and valleys, Built To Spill have chugged steadily along, putting out consistently strong albums and touring regularly. Ahead of the new BTS album, When The Wind Forgets Your Name, I asked Martsch to look back at the other Built To Spill records to chart his path to the latest LP. Read our conversation here.

dow, Friday, 16 September 2022 20:01 (two weeks ago) link

That's a tough one to follow, but here Hyden and Ian Cohen review new Built To Spill and Afghan Whigs:https://linktr.ee/indiecast?eml=2022September12/5819002/6424941&etsubid=33248291

dow, Friday, 16 September 2022 20:05 (two weeks ago) link

Huh, heโ€™s only 52?

Obviously Five Beliebers (morrisp), Friday, 16 September 2022 20:06 (two weeks ago) link

i was really hyped when they put out "gonna lose" but nothing else on the new album really jumped out at me unfortunately. that song rips though

na (NA), Friday, 16 September 2022 20:09 (two weeks ago) link

can somebody please prevent hyden from writing anything else, thanks

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 20:23 (two weeks ago) link

"Elements"... wow. I love this band.

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:44 (two weeks ago) link

xp Yes incl. his thots after DM's own=bridge too far, sorry.

dow, Saturday, 17 September 2022 03:29 (two weeks ago) link

Was finally able to play this and really enjoyed it, it seemed short and that worked for me. I will be playing again and the song that stood out to me was "Understood."

Bee OK, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 00:06 (four days ago) link

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