Bonnie "Prince" Billy - Bonnie "Prince" Billy sings Greatest Palace Music

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wow. i really dislike this. i admit my relative unfamiliarity with Palace's oeuvre, but wasn't the point of recording this under the BPB name to attack it from where he is now? my point being, this is very far from the sound of any of the 3 BPB albums. my biggest problem is the tone and production, which makes most of it (there are a few decent tracks: "Riding," "You Will Miss Me When I Burn," "No More Workhorse Blues") sound like mid-70's AC country and western, the kind of shit my dad used to drive us nuts with on car trips when i was a kid. i'd rather listen to John Denver.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i think that destroying his fabulous back catalogue in this manner is largely his point

Guy Incognito, Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Salvador - it's funny, because, the three songs you mentioned, along with "Meaulnes" (which I never liked), are the only ones on the album I don't think are outstanding!

I think its his best work since Hope. Sure, he sounds as if he's phoning it in on several of the tracks, but that adds to his self-serving, don't give a fuck mystique (see Zimmerman). I think it's a great record.

Then again, I'm also a big fan of what you call AC 70's C&W, and pretty familiar with the Palace oeuvre .

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I am a huge Palace fan..and this record is the pits.

didn't WEEN do this with lackluster results in 1998?

ddb, Saturday, 6 March 2004 04:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

like mid-70's AC country and western, the kind of shit my dad used to drive us nuts with on car trips

That sounds great. I'm really anxious to here this now.

maypang (maypang), Saturday, 6 March 2004 04:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i still laugh and smile every time i put this on

andrew s (andrew s), Saturday, 6 March 2004 05:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That sounds great. I'm really anxious to here this now.

Oh, I WISH it sounded "like mid-70's AC country and western." It's much more generic than that, even. (70's C&W has some bottom to it, after all!) And the miserabilist doing the singing doesn't make it any less generic.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 7 March 2004 17:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Don't get this albums icy reception on ILM. It's no masterpiece, but surely no worse than his other albums. Gulf Shores is still an amazing track.

Tim. E "LazRus" Lucas (Prose b4 Hoes...and Big Hoos), Saturday, 25 September 2010 09:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I love this album. I don't suppose it's meant to be a masterpiece but the musicians are great and the arrangements mostly work really well. The notion that Oldham meant it as a joke or a junking of his songs is just some clapped-out indie bollocks. But you can read those sentiments for yourself. Wd love him to record more stuff in this vein.

dociah t. azzahole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 September 2010 09:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yep, also love this album, and wasn't initially sure I would since plenty of the originals are also favourite songs (Gulf Shores among them), but it won me over and frequently I can't decide which versions I like more.

the too encumbered madman (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 25 September 2010 09:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i listen to this one more than any of his other stuff i have by a wide margin

buzza, Saturday, 25 September 2010 17:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

the incest drama in "riding" just isn't the same though when it's played for laughs

kamerad, Saturday, 25 September 2010 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

True, and probably my favourite song off still my favourite album if that isn't Arise Therefore. And I prefer the original Ohio River Boat Song as well.

the too encumbered madman (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 25 September 2010 19:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Weird that the first two tracks on this are the ones that are most obviously inferior to their originals (along with "I Send My Love To You", which just works so much better with the intimate, bedroom-recorded aesthetic).

Fucking love the pedal steel solo on "You Will Miss Me...", & the duet on "Agnes", though.

bernard snowy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 00:33 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh damn, I forgot about the sax on "Viva Ultra"—another highlight, IMO.

Less sure about the call-and-response chorus on "Pushkin", but I do appreciate the sheer chutzpah of making this record, and the effort to stamp every arrangement with some unexpected flourish.

bernard snowy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 00:43 (three years ago) Permalink

Wrt kamerad's post up thread: I don't really hear "played for laughs" in the remake of "Riding"; if anything the original seems to lean more in that direction?

bernard snowy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 00:54 (three years ago) Permalink

Listening to this for the first time and don't mind it at all. Bonnie "Rounder Records" Billy.

heavy on their trademark ballads (Eazy), Thursday, 3 July 2014 04:14 (three years ago) Permalink

My girl can't stand it. I'm curious what my old man (more of a bluegrass/trad-folk/alt-country guy) would make of it.

I know it's petty, but the fact that this record pissed off so many longtime fans increases my enjoyment of it by a good 15-20%

bernard snowy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 04:53 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

lol @ the reaction to this record

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:15 (three years ago) Permalink

shades of the reaction to Dylan's "Self Portrait" (which is actually probably a worse record)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:16 (three years ago) Permalink

always meant to listen to this (this was a little after I got off the boat with Oldham) and now that I am I am kinda lovin it. It's weird to think that he has a fanbase that basically hates country music but maybe that's the case...? cuz that's what this is, a really sweetly done country record.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:20 (three years ago) Permalink

holy shit at this piano on "I Send My Love to You"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:59 (three years ago) Permalink

Lol yeah the honky-tonk stuff (wisely limited to a couple songs) can be kinda grating even for people who *don't* hate country music

Your hippie magic has no effect on (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 23:14 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Has "Best Troubadour" been on anyone's radar? Unsure whether it is disinterest or just quiet around here?

djh, Monday, 8 May 2017 21:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

I guess I should listen to this

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 18:35 (eight months ago) Permalink


Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:32 (eight months ago) Permalink

A compilation (Draft Version)

Strange Form of Life
Rich Wife Full of Happiness
Another Day Full of Dread
Hard Life
One With The Birds
May it Always Be
Death To Everyone
Just to See My Holly Home
Southside of the World
Love Comes To Me
So Far and Here We Are
I See A Darkness
Today I Started Celebrating Again
A King At Night
Stable Will (Pond Scum version)

(May edit to include some of Greatest Palace Music).

djh, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 21:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

If you have a link, I'd gladly take this off your hands! (I've currently got no access to any Will Oldham stuff because life.)

I'd have to include A Minor Place. It's saved me too many times. And, probably, Raining in Darling. And Careless Love.

Also: it dawned on me recently that A Minor Place is like the underside of Everyday People - you can practically play the two simultaneously.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

Currently pondering whether to drunkenly order "Wai Notes" or "Wolfroy Goes To Town" ...

djh, Monday, 22 May 2017 21:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

Wai notes is pretty unearthly. I love The Letting Go but if you have that album, it's possibly not essential. Not sure about Wolfroy.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

i guess i bought this when it came out but really only came around to it about 2-3 years ago.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

Did anyone hear the self-titled from a couple years ago?

JoeStork, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 02:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

the last one i bought was the letting go but i don't think i got much out of it. the last one i loved was master & everyone, and that's been a while. superwolf was p dope too iirc.

i did see him live about 2 or so years back in nashville and it was great.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Has the BPB covers Susanna come up on any threads yet?

djh, Thursday, 23 November 2017 23:30 (one month ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

It's lovely, by the way.

djh, Friday, 22 December 2017 20:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i dig it but some of these are really hard to enjoy when i know the prior versions

marcos, Friday, 22 December 2017 20:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah otm. I adore Bonnie Billy, but also the Susanna album. These renditions mostly make me yearn for Susanna's song tbh. It doesn't really work for me.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 22 December 2017 20:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

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