ZZ Top: C/D

Totally fucking undeniably classic - check the archives dude, I asked ILM if I should buy the box set about a month or two ago (I did - worth every penny!!)

My dream band would certainly include Billy Gibbons on guitar.

CLASSICCLASSICCLASSIC

I searched the archive for threads about ZZ Top and found nothing...

totally worth getting, for the first two and a half discs alone

Convince me not to shell out $70 for the ZZ Top box set
ZZ Top's "Deguello" - C/D, S/D
Is there a non-"remastered" version of ZZ Top's Tejas available on CD?
ZZ TOP: Eliminator and Afterburner
POX:ZZ Top

Oh, and very much classic.

Related, but off topic...

Bubble Puppy. If you haven't, there's a cheap remaster. It's good.

Point Blank. First album, way beyond "brown period" ZZ Top. Shotgun pointed at your head. Completely unacceptable beat-yer-wife-and-the-liberals-too crashing boogie on Arista. Never remastered -- except for my special "Sludge in the Seventies" series. "The Hard Way" is also good. That may still be in stock in various places.

Best Album: Tres Hombres

I been bad, I been good,
Dallas, Texas, Hollywood.
I ain't askin' for much.
I said, Lord, take me downtown,
I'm just lookin' for some tush.

Take me back way back home,
not by myself, not alone.
I ain't askin' for much.
I said, Lord, take me downtown,
I'm just lookin' for some tush.

- Frank Beard, Bill Gibbons & Dusty Hill

Classic.

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this might be the best album ever made

Got to see these guys when they played the Beacon Theatre in NYC a month or so back. They fucking tore the walls down. Tremendous.

It's getting hard to see the white lines rollin by...

What a totally classic band. I'm depressed I missed the Beacon show.

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I am itchin' to find out what Rick Rubin does with them. Itchin', I tell ya.

All acoustic covers of new wave acts.

But seriously, I'm into this idea.

I mean, the idea of ZZ Top ELECTRIC with Rick Rubin.

Yeah, I don't think even Rubin would unplug them. That would be Rubin self-parody.

oh man if he wants them to take it back to tres hombres this could be great news indeed....

Arguably the world's greatest living bluesman, Billy Gibbons

arguably, yes.

Why not Billy Gibbons? Fucking Brown Sugar off their first album, what an awesome blues song.

Just Got Paid may be my favorite song of all time.

I fucking love this band.

I'd be surprised if Rubin could jackhandle them into producing an album as interesting as Mescalero. The band was so down-tuned for half the numbers you could almost hear the strings scraping the pickups. Plus they did Lowell Fulson's "Tramp," which makes about half an album worthwhile all by itself.

However, I'm one who has liked ZZ Top's last couple of albums. XXX was a little off but Rhythmeen was singular in its wall-of-guitar tone. Check Vincent Price Blues, as per one sample.

ZZ Top and their 1st-RioGrandeMud-TresHombres period are like the American blue-collar worker and $20 buck/hour wages. The paradigm is gone and not coming back. If Rick Rubin gets people to pay attention to 'em a little more, that's fine.

What's exactly is there -to do- with ZZ Top if you're a producer, anyway?

Everything ZZ Top has done in the last ten years has been R&B as hard rock and blooz as jokey semi-heavy metal and vice versa. It's not been a bad way of writing for them.

The last revolution in tone they went through came with Eliminator when Billy started playing through Rockman equipment, Frank Beard was laced to sequencing and a click track and gated reverb was used on all the drums. Plus Dusty was singing a lot less.

They dumped all that when they went to RCA for Antenna. Rusty still isn't singing as much as he used to, though.

ZZ Top and their 1st-RioGrandeMud-TresHombres period are like the American blue-collar worker and $20 buck/hour wages. The paradigm is gone and not coming back.

What paradigm is that? When was ZZ Top ever defined by the year they were recording in? I know you're talking about sound here -- too narrowly, I think -- but either way, that seems like a blank argument.

What's exactly is there -to do- with ZZ Top if you're a producer, anyway?

I don't know what line of work you're in, but I hope it's not producing records. What exactly can you *do* with 4/4 time and 12 bars? It's just so limited...

I know, maybe my hopes are too high. But there's a lot of ZZ Top to work with. There's some serious raw blues, as was said, and their affinity for pure sonics, which was all-time greatness on a couple albums before it got a little out of hand and cloudy, and there's always that genius/weird sense of humor that produces songs like "Cheap Sunglasses," which is a joke with no punch line, so instead of being funny, it decides to just fuckin' rock. There are a lot of places for ZZ Top to go or go back to, which of course is Rubin's speciality.

And while rationally I know better, I want to believe that there's such a thing as Huge Fuck-Off Beard Magic, and that Rubin and Billy and Dusty all have it in spades.

With all the southern rock haters I've seen on ILX I'm surprised at how positive this thread is.

This is the first band I can remember liking. Ecstatically at that. A tape of Eliminator that I think belonged to my dad.

Kenan, I made the same mistake with the new Stooges album.

:(

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I'M NATIONWIDE

They dumped all that when they went to RCA for Antenna.

There's still silly polish and f/x all over their last few records, including Antenna.

They need to release a for-real live album. I saw them at the Beacon Theater late last year and had my brain yanked out and hurled around the room.

I've heard they can still dominate live. No news on any of the old shit being remastered like fandango and 3 hombres, right? Too bad, I'd love to upgrade the first two.

No, none of the others are on the Rhino remaster list, as far as I know. You're right, they definitely should remaster the first two - hell, I'd like remasters of everything up through Eliminator (which is coming as a 2CD deluxe edition later in the year).

If it's based on Frank Beard, then wouldn't Frank Original sound exactly like some other song?

Listening to the whole album now. It sounds really good, loose and loud, and hearing these stripped-down versions of songs that originally had a fair degree of studio polish (not just the Eliminator songs, but "I'm Bad, I'm Nationwide" and "Tube Snake Boogie") is kind of a revelation, especially when you pay attention to what Frank and Dusty are up to. They were a perfect team.

the low end on this is insane

and dusty gets some great licks off on nationwide

It's touching that they go back all the way to "Certified Blues". If only we had done the ZZ Top poll a couple of years earlier, maybe they would have included something from Tejas.

if it sounds like 25 Lighters, clattery and thick and a vocal that sounds like it was slow-filtered through charcoal and piss then i’m in

The full story is great.

The 11-track album was recorded live at historic Gruene Hall in New Braunfels, Texas, in conjunction with the famed blues-rock trio’s 2019 documentary That Little Ol’ Band from Texas.

The album features ZZ Top’s classic lineup — Gibbons, Hill and drummer Frank Beard — playing versions of various songs from their back catalog, including hits like “Legs” and “Gimme All Your Lovin’,” and as well two tunes from the band’s 1971 debut album: “Brown Sugar” and “Certified Blues.”

Gibbons says the performance was unplanned, noting the film’s director had invited ZZ Top to Gruene Hall for what the band thought was just a photo shoot.

“Upon arrival, we discovered that some wires had been crossed,” Gibbons notes. “The ZZ Top equipment crew had not been told it was just a photo session. They set up the entire backline. We had guitars, amps, drums, the works.”

Gibbons says the trio proceeded to play a bunch of songs, and while footage of some performances were featured in the movie, Billy maintains he wasn’t aware that audio of the full set had been recorded until an engineer informed him a few months later.

“Upon listening to it, we all took a shine,” Gibbons notes, “and said, ‘Gee whiz, this sounds like the ZZ Top we’ve always known. That’s how we started."”

RAW sounds startling great - you really do feel like you're in the front row of the Gruene watching them casually kick some serious ass. Put it on and it's impossible not to have a great time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf7ze6vcS_8

fuck that's awesome - when they land in the pocket at the end it's incredible

Still love that ZZ Top looked like a fucking grindcore band in 1970 pic.twitter.com/b7DpP6rmu2

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Came in for some cheap sunglasses, no doubt.

I can't think of another band that started out so strong--their run from ZZ Top's First Album through Deguello is just killer--and jumped the shark so hard. Good for them for figuring out the cash-making formula, I suppose.

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Yeah, couldn’t disagree more. The Top were open to the sounds of Devo and The B-52s on El Loco, and the way they combined that with Texas blues was a master stroke imo. I think the conception and production of Eliminator is a sonic blast akin to the debut Boston album. It just sounds fucking huge, and deserves all the sales and success it got. xp

Eh. I hated that sound back in the day, and I still hate it. They really became a parody of themselves.

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Before There Was A Right Reverend Willie G., There Was Youth Pastor William "Bud" Gibbons.

praise be

I'll put Sure Got Cold After The Rain Fell up against any Southern Rock epic. Fuck a Free Bird.

El Loco is such a weird album, kind of mellow, but I love it now.

their love for new wave really starts coming through on this one.

^^^ and totally sets the stage for Eliminator. I didn't really care about ZZ Top in the 70s, but as a new wave loving young adult working in a record store in 1980 it was an eye-opener.

Dusty Hill Estate Auction:

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Would buy an Eliminator or Afterburner tape test press for $5

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Well, yeah

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If I ever caught her with Stevie P
I'd throw her back in the Penitentiary, now
And if I caught her with my mother's son
I'll call her daddy and get my gun

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Hand me another one of them brews from back there.
Oh, this is gonna be so good.

+1

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Dusty was one broad-shouldered, barrel-chested hombre...

I dont reslly know if these are new new videos or new old videos or what but matt sweeney has the best channel fyi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl5Dy35u1AY

his guitar has such a nasal, brassy quality that when he plays more softly it almost sounds like a muted horn

trombone perhaps

Guitar moves is awesome. High recommend the Deaner, Cass Mccombs and J Mascis episodes too.

Matt acquired all the old Guitar Moves eps from Vice/Noisey which are slowly being re-released but also (!!!) Matt started producing new eps

ah thanks, i wondered what was going on. never saw them the first time round for vice-avoidance reasons, hugely enjoying them now though

however i could definitely have done without kid rock in the billy gibbons one

I could do without Kid Rock on this earth.

kid go find another rock

Kids performance at Woodstock 99 is epic and undeniable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsrMqnNxy1o

I read that and inferred that ZZ Top played in some sort of kids’ tent at Woodstock.

Okay yeah wow that woodstock 99 show is fantastic