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...worth my while?

manuel (manuel), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

if you catch them right in a place with decent acoustics? hell yes.

Otherwise? forgeddaboudit

chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 11:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

when i saw them, stuart smashed his guitar! it was a (good-natured) response to someone in the crowd shouting "anarchy in the uk". i thought it was funny, but the his bandmates looked pissed off. some people in the crowd felt it ruined the night.

actually, the sound was really good that night and stuart was singing well. i was never a big fan, but i thought they put on a good show.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 11:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think belle & Sebastian living is worth anyone's while but maybe that's just me.

hmmm, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I saw them back in 1998, and they did a really great show. The acoustics of the space were really good, and they were pretty on that night. Back then they were playing only 14 songs a night with no encore, but these days they do pretty lengthy sets, so you'll get your money's worth. They seem to make an effort to play songs from all of their records every night, so they won't skimp on the oldies.

I wish I'd seen them on their last tour. Maybe next time.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they used to be k-rub live, but lately they have become very, very good indeed. If you like them on record you will love them live.

I was at the guitar smashing concert as well. It was mainly marred by bad acoustics and the band having to dick around for ten minutes betwwen each song. The latter problem has been solved.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i remember the dicking around between tracks, but i thought the sound was ok that night. they play at very low volume.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, leeds 98 was like that. but quiet was the new loud back then.

glastonbury 02 was fantastic from what i saw of it (not much).

piscesboy, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Their support acts are always dreadful, so make sure you turn up about 40 minutes in.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i think snow patrol supported when i saw them. they were not so great.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the brass band at the Barrowlands were great. It's weird, I can't for the life of me remember if there was even a support in Paris

chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I saw them for the first time this past November in Lawrence, KS. I thought they were wonderful live, but then again I'm a pretty big fan to begin with.

rainman (rainman), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I saw them a couple times. First was their first show in NYC (I think) at Angel Orensanz which is an old synagogue. So as you can imagine it's a room w/ great acoustics. The show was really really great, totally worth the hype. The next time was at the Supper Club in NYC, an odd venue, and Isobel was sick or pouty and she kept putting her head down on her cello. It didn't really bother me but some folks thought it was f-ed up since the tix cost like a million dollars.

scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i've seen them three times (over the past two years) and they're exceptional live.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Their support acts are always dreadful, so make sure you turn up about 40 minutes in.

you are dissing all of the Aislers Set, the Uptown Shufflers, and Sleater-Kinney - therefore you are a FULE.

my hope is that they will be supported by SCOOOOOOTER when I see them in Berlin.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

'their support acts are always dreadful'

in 98 we had elliot smith, fresh from his oscar nomination.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

oh yes, i remember the '98 Shepherd's Bush show...bah.


CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They are better live every year. They'll be the superstars of the oldies nostalgia circuits one day. Maybe as great as Cheap Trick. Or not.

2001. St David's Hall. Graham Fellows. I think i actually would have enjoyed him, except it took ages for the sound to get sorted out, so i could hear only fragments of his routine.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Seeing them live last year made me like them a whole lot more. I was getting ready to write them off, too. I got to see them in a proper hall with ideal acoustics. They were incredibly tight and went out of their way to make the show worth the ticket price and, y'know.. it was kinda fun, for the most part.

Some elements of the set seemed kinda gimmicky though, like getting fans to come up on stage to sing along with them (I have performer/audience issues) or pretending as though covering I Want You Back was a totally spontaneous moment and, as is often the case, just seemed to be trying to hard to be cute. But whatever, people were seemed to be having a good time and they were actually dancing, which is a rare thing to see at any Toronto show.

maypang (maypang), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i saw them shortly before 9/11/01 and they put on a great show and made me glad i saw them at the right time (they played a lot of tigermilk except no electronic renaissance).

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 17:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They are pretty consistently proficient live now, though I'm still not convinced about them in big venues (though they were amazing at Glastonbury).

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 18:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Saw them at the Astoria in December. I was bored and
I think they were too.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 20:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They have improved immeasurably over the last few years. Whether this is related to the departure of that annoying tweemongering mimsy girlie Isobel Campbell is a matter of debate.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 20:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Autumn 1997 @ that Chapel in Islington. My friend and I were so bored and amused by the crowd's adoration that we got a mad case of the giggles and almost fell out of our pew. Never again.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I should add that Stuart's the most arrogant arse in music today, if you ask me. I've seen him grind fans into the carpet like a squished chip.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

In what context? On the dancefloor?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Radio live performance and interview.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What did he do that resembled grinding fans into the carpet like a squished chip?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Perhaps you take me too literally. What I meant is that he was incredibly unpleasant to both the interviewer, the producer and to the small group of humble worshippers who convened to watch the recording. He had absolutely no interest in answering the questions in anything but monosyllables and was bitchy and horrible to everyone afterward.

If it had happened on the dancefloor, at least it'd have been entertaining to observe.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

OK - it just runs contrary to all the dealings I've ever had with him or heard of (except Kate St Claire saying he was mean to her when he was being a soundman). Perhaps he was just having a bad day. There are plenty of other people working in music today about whom I've heard far more tales of arrogant arseishness.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah I wouldn't be so strident about it if some of my good friends werent' the huge fans who got squelched in that particular incident. I have never complained to them about my bordeom at Union Chapel, but this seemed like a good arena in which to vent. The unexpectedness of it shocked us all. I'm glad it's not chronic, with him. Lord knows he is loved.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I love the squished chip imagery.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink this case being Brit "chip" aka "french fry" as opposed to Yank "chip" aka "crisp".

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 22:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the tickets are expensive, like skid row expensive.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 01:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A Skid Row concert once cost me my soul.

maypang (maypang), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I saw them a couple days after 9/11 and it was too weird for the show to be truly enjoyable. But considering the circumstances they were great. They play a lot of obscure songs, too.

Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 08:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i've seen them 4 times now. one in 97, it was awful but cute. then in 01, 02 and 03: the first two were amazingly good, the third a bit so-so... but i'm seeing them again on this tour, they're playing a beautiful theater and it should be a blast...
i don't agree about the supports: i saw them play with the magnetic fields first, and on this tour they come with adam green.

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 16:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

thirteen years pass...

Their live shows usually manage to turn up some hidden gem in their discography which I hadn't noticed before ("The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner" for example).

At their show the other night they played "Little Lou, Ugly Jack, Prophet John". I never really paid that song any attention before, maybe because the Norah Jones vocal makes it sound too adult contemporary for me. But in a less-overproduced live version, with Sarah on vocals rather than Norah Jones, it really stood out. That said, I just re-listened to the recorded version, and it doesn't do anything for me.

enochroot, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

they're great musicians, so their performances are always tight, and I do appreciate that they consistently tap into their back catalog.

but I'll never understand the appeal of the 'boy with the arab strap' on-stage dance party thing, and all their random twee antics can get in the way for me lol

KevRus, Saturday, 5 August 2017 01:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I can sorta see that (just saw them do "arab strap" with on-stage audience dance party thing) and yes another song might be better for that, but somehow I still enjoyed it despite the twee cliches

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The nice thing about the on-stage dance party is fat clumsy people like me get right up to the front when the front row people hop on stage; got setlists at their last two shows employing that manoeuvre

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

This tour was pretty sedate compared to their last; they played Electronic Renaissance last time they came to toronto! This time, not so much.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Drummer left behind at a truck stop: what's on your iPod?

Eazy, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 19:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

accidentally looked at the person stood next to me once at a gig (it was Murdoch) and the look he gave me back suggests to me the "squashed chip" theory upthread could be credible

PaulTMA, Thursday, 17 August 2017 09:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I liked this band more when they were called The Beautiful South.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Back in the day, one of my friends, a fellow habituee of the West End of Glasgow, used to call them the "24 Minute Party People", or was that the Pastels? Probably both.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

'their support acts are always dreadful'
in 98 we had elliot smith, fresh from his oscar nomination.

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:05 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yes, i remember the '98 Shepherd's Bush show...bah.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:09 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I went to that gig because a friend of mine bought me a ticket for my birthday knowing I liked indiepop music and he was into B&S... I'd heard If You're Feeling Sinister and thought it was alright but that was about it. Tbh I thought that gig was pretty awful. The sound was fucking terrible, could hardly hear anything. I hadn't heard of Elliot Smith and he was sat down playing solo acoustic so it just seemed like they'd brought a busker on tour with them. Maybe if I'd known his music it would've been better, but I was just bored.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:58 (eleven months ago) Permalink

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